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Is it possible?
there are rumours that it might
TMobile released this teaser announcement when the Nexus One was released:
It continued, “And the best thing about the HSPA+ upgrade is that it’s backward compatible, so that the T-Mobile 3G-enabled device being announced this week … it’s getting faster in 2010.”
No.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolved_HSPA
"HSPA+ provides HSPA data rates up to 56 Mbit/s on the downlink and 22 Mbit/s on the uplink through the use of a multiple-antenna technique known as MIMO (for “multiple-input and multiple-output”) and higher order modulation (64QAM)"
To "modify the phone", you need "only" to change the baseband completely, which in Nexus is integrated with the CPU, in the same chip.
Normal 3G phones can "benefit" from the HSPA+ network, but they won't see full HSPA+ speeds...
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You wont get the top speed, but the Nexus hardware does support HSPA+ in a limited fashion. When Tmobile released HSPA+ in the Twin Cities I seen a considerable jump in data speeds. From 1 meg down on 3G to about 3.5 down when connected to HSPA+. Tmobile sucks here in Minnesota so I only get HSPA+ when I'm outside. Hence it is useless because I don't use my phone outside for data.
K thanks =]
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I was looking at the 18MBPS LTE speeds in canada and was confused. I'm getting a consistant 14-17 MBPS on HSPA+. What's with the rush for LTE?
I got 17.56Mbps. However, according to the LTE thread, some people in Canada can get up to ~40-50 Mbps...
Did a speed test the other day on T-Mobile HSPA+ and I got over 20. Not bad considering my home internet connection is 25. My Nexus 4 is lightning fast on HSPA+, I'm not seeing the need to switch to LTE either for at least a couple more years.
I have reached 21 Mbps download and 3 Mbps upload. LTE is average 30+ download and upload.
HSPA+ saves battery and LTE kills it.
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The reason LTE is better is that is generally has lower latency speeds and absolutely has faster upload speeds.
In the US, AT&T has terrible 3G speeds. But T-mobile's HSPA network is generally really fast. So it really depends on your provider. And yes, LTE has very little latency. But if you are on T-mobile and have great coverage, I don't think LTE would be a big change. Unless you are tethering, LTE vs HSPA+ is not a huge difference.
People need to learn the difference of MB and Mb
Venekor said:
People need to learn the difference of MB and Mb
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The shift key?
I haven't had super stellar HSPA+ speeds around town (Portland, OR, on T-Mobile) but just now I did one and got 24.2Mbps down, 5Mbps up. :good: Good enough for me by far. That's faster than my home internet.
Edit: Wait, that was my home internet. Up too late last night... 13Mbps down, 1.5Mbps up. That's still not bad.
If we do enable the LTE part of the phone, does that mean our battery life would be depleting faster?
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If we do enable the LTE part of the phone, does that mean our battery life would be depleting faster?
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Yes
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The other day I got 63mbps on my Nexus 4, take that T Mobile
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The other day I got 63mbps on my Nexus 4, take that T Mobile
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But T-Mobile is going to construct an AWS LTE network in the US, and it will be newer than the LTE on other carriers.
People also forget.
What is the use of 50 Mbps download if the website you are looking at only displays at 10 Mbps up?
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I guess a lot of people hoping for LTE are on AT&T. I get a bit 2-3 Mbps down, 1-1.5 Mbps up (250-375 KB/s and 125-188 KB/s, I don't get why people use bits for bandwidth when everyone is clearly more familiar with bytes...).
I wonder if you need a smartphone plan on AT&T to get LTE on an off-network-branded device. I'm using MediaNET and I'd rather pay $10 for unlimited 3G than $25 for 2GB of 4G. If we can eventually use LTE incognito on AT&T and keep our MediaNET plans, I'll be happy. Doesn't really make a difference to me either way. 3G speeds are more than good enough for browsing. I don't mind a little buffering if I'm streaming HD video on the go.
I have vzw lte and tmo hspa (via straight talk) with both I see ~10Mbps in and around southern california, so I too see no need to rush out for an LTE phone AND I figure the n5 will have it so in a year this will all be moot.
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I guess a lot of people hoping for LTE are on AT&T. I get a bit 2-3 Mbps down, 1-1.5 Mbps up (250-375 KB/s and 125-188 KB/s, I don't get why people use bits for bandwidth when everyone is clearly more familiar with bytes...).
I wonder if you need a smartphone plan on AT&T to get LTE on an off-network-branded device. I'm using MediaNET and I'd rather pay $10 for unlimited 3G than $25 for 2GB of 4G. If we can eventually use LTE incognito on AT&T and keep our MediaNET plans, I'll be happy. Doesn't really make a difference to me either way. 3G speeds are more than good enough for browsing. I don't mind a little buffering if I'm streaming HD video on the go.
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Pre payed att you do require a smartphone plan to get the full speed. It will be like 50 bucks I believe..
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You guys are lucky. I literally get less than .2Mbps down/up where I live due to it being 2G :crying:. Always on my 30/5 WiFi. Sometimes I'll get upwards of 5 in the city. Some "4G" eh? T-Mobile is an absolute joke for me here and I HATE it.
LTE is king for latency.
I play a lot of counterstrike, and there used to be a regular who'd play over VZW LTE. Guy had lower latency than I did over cable. More important, he seemed completely fluid in the game-- no jitter or packet loss. Completely playable. That's huge.
Your thread title's pretty misleading. There is a big difference between 16.5MBPS and 16.5MbPS.
Greetings!
Sold my 8gb Nexus 7 and replaced it with the 32gb HSPA+ version. Should be here Tuesday. I have an AT&T mobile share plan which I can use for $10 a month on it, but I'm also strongly considering T-mobile. Now here's my question - I know this doesn't run on the 42mbps band that T-mobile has (like the Nexus 4 would), but how are the speeds anyhow? Can I still expect greater speeds in the San Francisco Bay Area with T-mobile than AT&T's HSPA+ network? My Nexus 4 wasn't getting fantastic AT&T speeds, but not bad either. Ranged from 3-5mbps, with the occasional spike to 8mbps.
Just looking for anyone's experience, or other cities too. Curious how T-mobile typically runs in major cities on the 21mbps band.
Cheers,
-Collin-
This thread is simply voting which data you use and why.
I personally am using 3G (HSPA+ 21) even though I could use 4G (I live in Canada), mainly because of the poor battery like I'm experiencing with this device if used on 4G.
So what are you using? And why?
Using 3G+ (42) because the 4G frequency in Australia doesn't work with the N4, or most phones unless a special model comes out like the 4G version of the S3
Just plain ol' 21/42 MBps H+
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3G, no choice, if 4G was an option I'd probably give it a shot but if I noticed extreme battery drain I would go back to 3G as well.
Edge
i live in canada too, but i did several tests, using 4g makes the voice call quality really bad. so i stick with 3g now
I use both... I get pretty decent speed on DC-HSPA about 20mbps down easy... I use lte mainly so i can stream youtube in hd instead of hq!
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HSDPA. 1 operator is just beginning to roll out 4G in the major cities here in Belgium, so no choice
And I don't think the LTE chip works here anyway.
I used Edge at work. it streams better for me. Always has. Since iphone 3g. I think its the building I work in. Soon as I leave it, H+ works like it should.
At home I use Wireless and 4g
Soooooo I'm not the only one who is preferring 3G over 4G? Yay lol
I would barf in my mouth before I use 3g.
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Faux G aka HSPA+ (21.1 and 14.4) w/EB here as well.
My Provider has just HSPA+ 15 but I mostly hav HSPA+ 10. But that's no problem at all, because I'm used to it. At home (on Computer) I get just about 7 so I'm totally happy.
3G is broken... Once this thing connects top umts or hspa 10 there's no data transmission until it finds hspa+15 again...
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3g in Canada. 4g decimates my battery, which is already kind of disappointing personally.
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A mix of EDGE, 21, and 42 depending on where I am during my day.
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GPRS/EDGE by preference, no point wasting battery power attempting to connect to crappy 3G signal!
3G for me. I've tried 4G and while I like the speeds, my battery takes a considerable hit.
I live in Canada as well. I've only just started using 4G for the past few days (Rogers) and I think I'm going to be sticking with it. Data speeds have improved significantly. I don't seem to have that decrease in voice call quality that someone else mentioned and my battery life is actually not that much worse compared to 3G.
Technically, there is not a network in the US that's adhering to the actual 4G standard. Verizon's LTE may offer slightly better latency, and a better upload speed than T-Mobile, but your wallet will be taking a huge hit, and you'll only have 2GB of data for $110 after taxes and FCC fees. Is LTE really worth more than $100 a month? I don't think so.
I'm using T-Mobile's network and I'm very happy with the speeds. If T-Mobile is prevalent in your area, and you don't travel very often to remote areas, their $30 prepaid plan is definitely worth it. I'm witnessing over 22Mb down on the 42Mbps towers, and I'm averaging roughly 10Mb down everywhere else. I'm about 35 miles from a major urban city, btw.
I'm not getting any speed bump. I live in the Memphis area and go to the heart of Memphis for work 5 days a week. I constantly test with speedtest and I'm getting them same 20-30 dl speed I've always gotten. Verizon's website says it's available. Anyone in Memphis or have a similar issue?
I'm on the xdabbeb v2.2.0 rom 26a
While higher speeds are possible it was never officially claimed by Verizon. “We are still focused on our brand promise of 5-12 Mbps on the download and 2-5 Mbps on the upload.” That was the official statement announced by one of their spokesman/woman. Just cause it says its available, there is till the high possibility AWS in your area is still being rolled out.
I live in Collierville and get 30 to 40 during the day and 40 to 60 at night. My upload is usually around 10 all the time.
Getting 70 Mbps LTE in Kansas City on Verizon
I was getting nearly 70 Mbps download in Kansas City, Missouri on Verizon. I have since swithed a Straight Talk (T-Mobile network) sim and I am only getting 15-17 Mbps LTE. (I do get at least 3 gigs of 4G LTE thru Straight Talk, and that second screen shot is after I was notified I had exceeded my 3 gigs and would be throttled...) The first shot is Verizon network. Using VZ980 4.4.2 26a. Second is T-Mobile on same device via Straight Talk. (Stock rom, now rooted, but was working the same before root.) Verizon in Kansas City area is unbelievably FAST. Wish I could afford them, but I can live without all the overage fees I WAS paying.
VZW "XLTE" or better known as AWS, isn't upgrade to all towers within an area at once. Where I live in Toledo we still have tons of data issues even with AWS being in the market. You can get 70-100Mbps down easy on one tower, then drive a block away and you switch towers and then you're lucky to get 1Mbps down because you switched to a tower without AWS. They just upgraded certain towers because of the cost to upgrade the circuit speed on top of the hardware upgrades to towers. They really only do it in high traffic areas that have capacity issues. Sadly they still haven't done crap since the initial upgrade out here.
Yeah my home town I get 8-15mbps on Verizon and at the one mall I get 85+
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Have you looked on your phone to see if you are even using band 4? Download LTE Discovery, it will tell you what band you are connected to.