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Motorola Testing Latest Froyo ROM

Looks like Motorola is preparing to roll out firmware for testing to customers:
I have a Telus model so I don't qualify, but anyone with a European Milestone want to give this a whirl and see if they can obtain the latest test firmware?
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/323715#323715

still testing.... so long release....

It ain't going to be any different from the already leaked Vivo & Apac releases. So why bother?
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You should add Q(uestion) prefix to the title of your topic!

sileshn said:
It ain't going to be any different from the already leaked Vivo & Apac releases. So why bother?
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maybe they have "finally" fixed (improved) battery life

I Think it will be the same as vivo leak

I already signed for that.. but not expecting any..

pippocannelunghe said:
maybe they have "finally" fixed (improved) battery life
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I don't think you will get better battery life than this from stock rom.
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sileshn said:
It ain't going to be any different from the already leaked Vivo & Apac releases. So why bother?
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Still to many bugs to class any of thoses release as final, is so, we would have seen a role out by now.

The .sbf files are no more reachable!
If you try to type the URL
rsddownload.motorola.com/download/SHOLS_U2_02.38.0_USASHLSMR2WNDITB1B806D.0R_PDS003_USASHLS00WNDIT_P031_A020_HWp2a_1FF.sbf.gz
This is the result:
Not Found
The requested URL /download/SHOLS_U2_02.38.0_USASHLSMR2WNDITB1B806D.0R_PDS003_USASHLS00WNDIT_P031_A020_HWp2a_1FF.sbf.gz was not found on this server.
Apache/2.0.55 (Unix) DAV/2 Server at rsddownload.motorola.com Port 80
May be some good news are incoming?
(Sorry for my english...)

I don't think the Vivo leak will be the final build...it had a lot of odd things like old launcher, duplicate apps, odd power management things, etc.
Usually the build that Moto tests in public themselves is almost near final, I think that whatever build they will be testing will be better than what we have already.

so long, wow

Any nandroid or mirror for this SBF?

w*w.android-hilfe.de/attachments/motorola-milestone/26849d1297840321-offizieller-milestone-froyo-pre-release-test-imag0022.jpg
First German kid reporting OTA Update ... Fake?

gruntpartystyle said:
w*w.android-hilfe.de/attachments/motorola-milestone/26849d1297840321-offizieller-milestone-froyo-pre-release-test-imag0022.jpg
First German kid reporting OTA Update ... Fake?
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It's the same kernel as in the latest leak, i doubt anything has changed

Any updates if the Telus versions will be released?
Can anyone guide me to where i can actually install a Decent ROM for the Telus Milestone?

First O2 Germany beta test results
At android-hilfe.de there's a thread for the O2 Germany Froyo beta test. The results are not very promising: Moto ist still using the APAC kernel which is known to have a bug with the display driver (DSI errors in dmesg logs). On some phones this bug is causing crashes.
Some users report that their Milestone is sometimes lagging. Overall many people are quite angry now. After waiting for nearly a year, Moto finally delivers a buggy ROM...
I will stay with CM.

Same here, I'm fed up with waiting and now on iceandfire/CM7 since a week or so. Why bother waiting for a buggy Froyo, when I can also have a (more or less buggy) Gingerbread?!
Still, it's a shame that Moto can't get its act together

Looks like they will be rolling out Froyo at the same time this forum has finished rolling out the bugs from gingerbread
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buggy beta = final Froyo release
Hi,
some guys from the German O2 beta test reported that the Froyo beta will become the finale version despite of reported problems.
Moto stated on the beta test forum:
This software has been approved for distribution by o2 and Google. This
pre-release is a test to ensure there are no catestrophic failures. As of
right now there are no plans to provide newer software. We are however
investigating the issues that have been reported.
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Note the limitation only on "catastrophic failures"
That is: about 3 month after the Gingerbread release we finally will get the update to Froyo which is still buggy...
And Moto tells us their quality management is satisfied if there's no "catastrophic failure". It took nearly a year of development to reach this point.

[Q] LG Optimus Black 2.3 Gingerbread update?

Hey guys ive done quiet a bit of searching trying to find any news or how to's on updateing/upgradeing the OB to gingerbread 2.3 but sadly havnt been able to find much at all & so im just woundering if anyone here knows of any methods or ways of possibly getting gingerbread on your phone.
The phone it self seems great & have had it for around a week now , Just would really like to have gingerbread 2.3 on this sexy beast.

LG Support says september for official version. There are no 2.3 custom ROMS yet.

pihx said:
LG Support says september for official version. There are no 2.3 custom ROMS yet.
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Ahh that sucks , ohwell thx for the info and damn you LG!! lol.

I've contacted with LG support and according to what they have told me, we can expect the update to end of august.

cbpron said:
I've contacted with LG support and according to what they have told me, we can expect the update to end of august.
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end of august???
3 september and no updates

salespace said:
end of august???
3 september and no updates
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Different region different schedule...
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If they sey end of august it means earliest in december.
And by then they might have decided to close the whole update process.
My thrust lies in the custom ROM's

I think we become early a Custom ROM with Gingerbread befor LG Update the Black to 2.3

Ph0enyx said:
I think we become early a Custom ROM with Gingerbread befor LG Update the Black to 2.3
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No worries then. Cyanogenmod is on its way..
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Wait well bitterness 2.3?
Wait well bitterness 2.3?

Cyanogen 2.3 will be faster than the official LG 2.3 ROM

mestanr said:
Cyanogen 2.3 will be faster than the official LG 2.3 ROM
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And after Vyanogen 2.3 we'll got MIUI for even faster.

Have you tried NOVA ROM? It's amazing how fast it is. ;-)
I have NOVA v8 and regardless some problems with 'su' and battery drain, I'm very impressed with it... therefore I have no great hurry to gingerbread.

joaquinmbm said:
Have you tried NOVA ROM? It's amazing how fast it is. ;-)
I have NOVA v8 and regardless some problems with 'su' and battery drain, I'm very impressed with it... therefore I have no great hurry to gingerbread.
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I'm impressed of nova script. I hope knzo will allowed to tweak cm7 when the rc released.
About v8 I noticed 'su' and sluggish scrolling after stanby, also quadrant score was weird, jump from 11xx to 20xx.
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There we go...

Yeah... Right... First there was july. Then end of july. Then middle of august. Then end of august. Now middle of september.
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mgregor said:
Yeah... Right... First there was july. Then end of july. Then middle of august. Then end of august. Now middle of september.
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It means that the development continues 'till bugs free... (hope so)

Hi All,
I am new to Android and bought my LG Optimus Black. I want to know on what is Novarom or Cyanogen 2.3 and how do I update and what are the benefits. Will I loose the warranty of my my if I do any of these?
Please help. It might be a very simple question for many of you but I am sure you all must be at my stange at some point of time and will be able to help a new come to use his LG Optimus black to the full potential and enjoy.
Look forward to hear from you.
Cheers

raj_malhotra said:
Hi All,
I am new to Android and bought my LG Optimus Black. I want to know on what is Novarom or Cyanogen 2.3 and how do I update and what are the benefits. Will I loose the warranty of my my if I do any of these?
Please help. It might be a very simple question for many of you but I am sure you all must be at my stange at some point of time and will be able to help a new come to use his LG Optimus black to the full potential and enjoy.
Look forward to hear from you.
Cheers
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Nova ROM is a modified ROM based on original V10C from LG. It is faster than stock one and also doesn't include all that unuseful stuff that stock ROMs have.
To flash a modified ROM breaks the warranty, but there are methods to flash the origin ROM and return to the begining.
In order to flash Nova ROM, you have to:
- root your phone
- install rom manager and then install ClockWorkMod Recovery.
- Download nova rom and flash it through CWM
Search how to root your specific software version and once root it's easy. RomManager can be installed from Market and once installed it downloads the last CWM for your device, installs it and let you reboot into recovery. Then, with your rom in .zip format inside your sdcard is very easy to flash it.
Search!!!

well i've heard september since june and have thought ok that means october-november but i think they'll actually get it out in september.

[Q] Note doesn't get updates

I know there are many threads asking the same question, and I've looked through many, but still haven't find an answer to my problems.
Just to clarify, my phone is not rooted, nor flashed, and I'm planning to leave it that way as long as possible, unless I really can't find any other solution for upgrading my phone
I've bought my phone in December, sim free, at mobile phone store in Serbia, and judging by the manuals language that I got in the box, its most likely imported from Hungary.
As soon as I've powered it on and connected to internet, I've got an update (OTA), which I installed as soon as I got home and plugged the phone to charger. Since then, I haven't got a single update, whenever I manually check I get "No updates!", and Kies says I have latest firmware, but im stuck on KK5 :S
It not big deal for now (even though I see that many people report improvements in newer firmwares, and I would also like that), but what about the ICS upgrade that will come in next month or two ?
Is there any way to force update, without flashing it manually or rooting the phone, or I'm stuck with this for good?
Is there anyone I can contact regarding this question who can give me any estimations ? Who is responsible for updates for sim free phones ?
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turshija said:
I know there are many threads asking the same question, and I've looked through many, but still haven't find an answer to my problems.
Just to clarify, my phone is not rooted, nor flashed, and I'm planning to leave it that way as long as possible, unless I really can't find any other solution for upgrading my phone
I've bought my phone in December, sim free, at mobile phone store in Serbia, and judging by the manuals language that I got in the box, its most likely imported from Hungary.
As soon as I've powered it on and connected to internet, I've got an update (OTA), which I installed as soon as I got home and plugged the phone to charger. Since then, I haven't got a single update, whenever I manually check I get "No updates!", and Kies says I have latest firmware, but im stuck on KK5 :S
It not big deal for now (even though I see that many people report improvements in newer firmwares, and I would also like that), but what about the ICS upgrade that will come in next month or two ?
Is there any way to force update, without flashing it manually or rooting the phone, or I'm stuck with this for good?
Is there anyone I can contact regarding this question who can give me any estimations ? Who is responsible for updates for sim free phones ?
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If samsung have not still released new Firmware for your area, you won't get it.
Samsung never announce regarding release date for any ROM, Any region. You have to just wait till you get it.
Nobody can give you exact date of ICS release. wat we hearing is you can consider as Rumor.
You have always option to update your device manually. You can find all details in links of my signature.
May be CEO samsung Mr. H. B. Lee can answer, but i dont know how to contact

Thanks for your reply!
Well, I've read all your tutorials for now, and I will use them when I decide to start with rooting + flashing
What about that region changing ? There is no possibility to change region and get updates ?

turshija said:
Thanks for your reply!
Well, I've read all your tutorials for now, and I will use them when I decide to start with rooting + flashing
What about that region changing ? There is no possibility to change region and get updates ?
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Ya, you can change the region, but you'll wipe your phone.

Sorry to hijack the thread.
my 'about phone' is exactly the same as OPs, to the last detail. My handset was bought in the UK, and is unrooted as yet.
I'm on XEU csc and as far as I'm aware, I SHOULD have had an update by now? yet it still has not arrived. is this normal for a UK note XEU with KKA kernel/ KK5 baseband?
many thanks.

cbnash said:
Ya, you can change the region, but you'll wipe your phone.
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So its totally safe, and I will get updates for sure if I do that ?
My warranty wont be void ?
How do I do that, and what is the best region to choose ?

turshija said:
So its totally safe, and I will get updates for sure if I do that ?
My warranty wont be void ?
How do I do that, and what is the best region to choose ?
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See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469233

@turshija
i am also still on KK5. I am not sure what you expect from new update. Until official ICS update, you only can expect some small things, like safety patches. What i red on forums, latest update have only changes on keyboard (added numbers), and for me its not something special.
You will lose your warranty if you root your SGN, and i agree with you to not flash the phone during warranty period. Its not so cheap toy
On other hand, when i bought my alternative phone 2 years ago (HTC HD2), i installed Android after few days, because Windows made me felling like a grandfather. I am still playing with my HD2 after few hundreds times flashed ROMs, and now i am on ICS...and still enjoying my HD2 flashing and playing )), but comparing with SG Note, HD2 must be alternative phone
P.S. - We have absolutely the same version of SGN

@turshija and @tanzemyu, I too have identical version to you. Mine was bought from carphone warehouse in UK. At the last OTA upgrade (to 2.3.6 KKA) my phone wasn't rooted at the time, and I got it OTA - but a couple of weeks after the update was announced for carrier-free phones. I think it's therefore likely that CPW are for some reason holding up the OTA upgrade.
When 2.3.6 was out but I hadn't got it OTA, I looked into trying to change my CSC in order to get the OTA update but I found that CPW have put a non-changeable sales code on my phone "CPW" and I don't have the option to change the CSC.
As I'm now rooted I'm going to flash the update myself when I get around to it (as I think you lose root if you do an OTA??) - but IF you also bought from Carphone Warehouse, it's maybe worth you waiting anther week or too just in case an OTA upgrade does eventually arrive (I can't see why it wouldn't?)

Mine is identical. And it's from phones4u.
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If You Were Waiting On Towelroot To Work For The Tab S... Well... Throw In The Towel

kprice8 said:
Geohot will not be releasing any further updates. He is now working for Google to find and patch these and other exploits in not just Android code, but anything computer based that touches the internet.
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landshark68 said:
Read back in the thread a few pages - 1) GeoHot works for Google now. Hired to find and close exploits like the one towelroot used to root devices; 2) towelroot used a specific vulnerability in kernels dated before June 3. If your kernel is dated after June 3, the vulnerability has been patched and there is nothing GeoHot can "fix" to make towelroot work on your device; and related to that 3) either your phone has the vulnerability or it doesn't and towelroot either works to root your device or it doesn't and there is nothing GeoHot can do to fix towelroot to make it work for your device. Plus, like I said before GeoHot works for Google now so he can't create programs or apps that root phones by exploiting vulnerabilities he is supposed to now be fixing. Now that this same question has been answered for the 1,000,000th time in this thread, can we please get it closed?
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I was looking forward to being able to snatch OTAs while still rooted.
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@EMSpilot please don't sell your tablet... at least until Android L releases for the Tab S and you've released a stock, rooted ROM running it.

Oh well....there's nothing stopping those who's already rooted from flashing a future custom Android L rom, right? D

kenkiller said:
Oh well....there's nothing stopping those who's already rooted from flashing a future custom Android L rom, right? D
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As long as dev support is there, will be good. But dev support is what has me worried.
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Y.G. said:
As long as dev support is there, will be good. But dev support is what has me worried.
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Look on the bright side. We needed CM and other AOSP variants in the past because most devices performed like crap. Now while not as smooth as stock Android, still rather speedy. Customization can be done with xposed mods.
Even if stuck on stock, it's not really that bad, to be honest.

You guys need to start learning something... for the sake of development...

kenkiller said:
Look on the bright side. We needed CM and other AOSP variants in the past because most devices performed like crap. Now while not as smooth as stock Android, still rather speedy. Customization can be done with xposed mods.
Even if stuck on stock, it's not really that bad, to be honest.
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No, I'm with you. I don't flash AOSP ROMs. I'm just afraid of not being able to upgrade to a stock, rooted TouchWiz Android L ROM.
But you're right, Samsung has put in the work and optimized TouchWiz over the years. I have no complaints with the performance.

I've just root my T705.

edan1979 said:
You guys need to start learning something... for the sake of development...
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Sometimes we're just lazy. I'll be honest. Different priorities take over. For me it's a kicking 3 month old baby.
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Y.G. said:
No, I'm with you. I don't flash AOSP ROMs. I'm just afraid of not being able to upgrade to a stock, rooted TouchWiz Android L ROM.
But you're right, Samsung has put in the work and optimized TouchWiz over the years. I have no complaints with the performance.
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I don't see why not. We're rooted with custom recoveries. As long as someone released a proper rom it can be flashed.
Otherwise just use Odin to flash the stock rom and root it again.

i feel the same last time... until the tab 7.7 was kind of forgotten... so i start to learn basic thing... dont wanna see that on tab s... (but i think its going to be the same)

edan1979 said:
i feel the same last time... until the tab 7.7 was kind of forgotten... so i start to learn basic thing... dont wanna see that on tab s... (but i think its going to be the same)
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At least you had the 3G model and official JB (Asia only) . My Wi Fi model was thrown into the dung heap by Samsung after less than 12 months and no official JB or support theater.... Thanks to bodivas for the initial port to the P6810, I could then work from there with newer contributions.
They just ignore the GPL license to support devices for at min of 18 months. There are other OEM that refuse to provide full source too. What does Google do, nothing....
The only way is as you implied, to be proactive and help ourselves (and others) where skill/knowledge and time permit
Good modding !!

More than one way to skin a cat also....
I think they will have support for android L since the specs of the tab S match the requirements of the OS

it's easier for samsung to develop android L for exynos device . i hope my tab will have android L teeheehee

On which webpage provide SAMSUNG there (patched) opensource?
At least recovery image include binary which can't compiled from android source...

Android 11 for the Note 10 Lite

Finally!
Just installed android 11 on my note 10 lite via odin. Not gonna wait around for Samsung to seed it to my country.
Must admit, with android 11 I hardly see the need for root, or even a custom rom for that matter.
I read the other day that the Note 10 lite is part of the range of phones that will be getting 3 years of updates.
The big question... What are your thoughts on the android 11 update if you've got it? And are you going to update to it?

Koekemoerruan1998 said:
Finally!
Just installed android 11 on my note 10 lite via odin. Not gonna wait around for Samsung to seed it to my country.
Must admit, with android 11 I hardly see the need for root, or even a custom rom for that matter.
I read the other day that the Note 10 lite is part of the range of phones that will be getting 3 years of updates.
The big question... What are your thoughts on the android 11 update if you've got it? And are you going to update to it?
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Is it safe to install another country update, which country Android 11 did you install?

Just started the download in India via OTA.

Still can not resize icon size

How about battery life? Is it better or worse for you after updating to android 11?

Worse !!! I have battery drain since android 11 update ! (on 2 different note 10 lite !)

See something told me not to take the Android 11 update just yet. I was gonna wait till the March update, but now I don't know. If it'll only make this phone worse I'll just keep the Note 10 Lite on 10 forever and just worry about getting a Note 20 Ultra (or Note 21 if Samsung isn't done with the series).

And now we're on the 4th iteration of Android 11 with the April update. Has anyone gotten it?

Yeah, would be nice if some people with the last android 11 update could give some feedback. I'm also allways on 10. How works access to the external memory-card? Like with 10 or are there problems getting access with solid-explorer, galerie, firefox (downloads), Titanium BA (backups) and so on?
Seems most people using a N10lite are not interested in modding/rooting it. Also in german forum android-hilfe there is nearly zero traffic in the 10lite group.
When i think back to the times of my Note 1, 3, 4 - there were posts over posts.

Looks like now instead of updates coming out at the end of the month they're now coming out in the middle. The "Beta 4" of Android 12 is coming out in August, not sure what that means for regular users, but I suspect it won't be ready for the Note 10 Lite till maybe January, February.

Meh, I would stay on Pie.
If already on 10... enter holding pattern.
My 10+ is still running on Pie. Apps like Karma Firewall are fully functional on it. Supports trusted overlay apps... which I use. No CPU cycles robbing scoped storage (for what?!).
The current load is over a year old now, still fast and very stable. Security has not been an issue.
Very little in the way of maintenance. Good battery life; 7-11%@hr SOT

Hello guys... would be posible to downgrade from 12 to 10? Thanks...

erpilsG said:
Hello guys... would be posible to downgrade from 12 to 10? Thanks...
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Likely not because of the bootloader version.

blackhawk said:
Likely not because of the bootloader version.
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Thanks you sir...

erpilsG said:
Thanks you sir...
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You are welcome.
The 5th digit from the rear is bootloader version.
In the build number you want to go to the bootloader version can be lower, the same but not higher.
In this case it's a 2 for this N10+ running on Pie.
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RodimusConvoy said:
Looks like now instead of updates coming out at the end of the month they're now coming out in the middle. The "Beta 4" of Android 12 is coming out in August, not sure what that means for regular users, but I suspect it won't be ready for the Note 10 Lite till maybe January, February.
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Turns out I was right, Android 12 debuted in January for our device. It's on it's third update as of the time of this writing (March 4th).
So now I have to decide if I'll get the final Android 11 update, or the current Android 12 update. We have TWRP now, but I'm not sure if that'll help with firmware updates or not (I use to dirty flash firmware updates through TWRP when I had an S4 ages ago, not sure if that's possible here even with TWRP).