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Jerky performance problem, is it RAM or too many apps etc?

Hi all,
Was wondering if anyone experience jerky performances.
I have about 10 pages of apps installed mostly games and stock apps.
When I use advance app killer, usually i see stock apps eg. facebook, browser, ebook, etc.. When I kill them all, performance doesn't improve much.
If the 10 pages are the reason, any way to know which is running in background and sucking up resources?

The performance of your Gtab is jerky coz of the apps that run in the background even if you close them they restart.. u cn use startup auditor app to increase performance... if all fails hard reset nd install only required Apps not the apps u don't use but run behind nd eat up RAM nd battery
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a certain app may be using up too much background resources. try uninstalling the culprit. detct it by trial and error

I was in a similar situation until I last had to factory reset my Tab due to the whole issue with Google Apps Google Accounts not having access to Google Checkout on the Android Market.
Installed over 100 apps on my first day with the Tab (over-excited, I know ), and realized that my Tab started to lag when opening the app drawer. The problem became most apparent when I shut down or rebooted the Tab; it would literally take minutes to boot up, and often it would freeze and force close my launcher several times in a row.
I chalked it down to having too many apps, but later read that many apps start themselves up on boot even if they had no reason to (e.g. Amazon, Aldiko, etc.)
I've since only installed apps that I would really use throughout the day, but would you guys say that so long these apps do not run on startup (say I disable them using the Autostarts app), I can install a hundred or even two hundred apps without the boot up lag?

So there's no way to see which app is running in background and % memory used, similar to windows task manager?
When I use Advanced task killer, are those 'apps shown' considered as background apps or are background apps invisible?

From my RAM manager, I see like 180+ to 200mb out of 400+mb. I think that's the remaining RAM ?
Anyone knows the stock RAM out of the box?

It might be because carriers pre load crap on them
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Installed the free startup app and found the culprits ... GAMELOFT games. They are huge in size and think they eat up the memory in background/at startup.
After disabling, all back to normal.

olyloh6696 said:
a certain app may be using up too much background resources. try uninstalling the culprit. detct it by trial and error
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Why on earth would you want to detect it by trial and error when there is plenty of apps you can use to find it specifically?
bzie said:
So there's no way to see which app is running in background and % memory used, similar to windows task manager?
When I use Advanced task killer, are those 'apps shown' considered as background apps or are background apps invisible?
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Use a app like system panel, It will show you all the running apps and there memory/cpu consumption etc.

TheATHEiST said:
Why on earth would you want to detect it by trial and error when there is plenty of apps you can use to find it specifically?
Use a app like system panel, It will show you all the running apps and there memory/cpu consumption etc.
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wow. i never knew of such app. please share.

olyloh6696 said:
wow. i never knew of such app. please share.
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https://market.android.com/details?id=nextapp.systempanel.r1

StarLog said:
https://market.android.com/details?id=nextapp.systempanel.r1
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cheers!
sorry outta 'thanks'

How to stop stock applications on stock ics

Pls help me I want to stop stock useless applications on stock ics so as to increase the battery life of my note.
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You can use TB to freeze unwanted application, ou you can uninstall too (safe removal list is available on stikies of appl & theme section)
But, your idea to improve battrey life is on debate. If you dont set autorefresh on stock / any news app like AP mobile and dont use widgets, then i dont think it will drain juice. You can install battery monito appl to find battery consumption by individual appl. at end of cycle it may not be even recorded amount (<0.1%).

Better battery stats is also a good app to keep an eye on your battery

[Q] need app

Hey everyone
as we all know the ram of the x8 is so small :'(, and some apps like the ****y Facebook takes about 50 mb from the ram
I need an application that block apps from starting on their own
I found one for controling which app should start on boot but I need another to control them after that
thanks in advance
Ps :locked bootloader can't do swapping
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Delete the useless apps like FB.....
And use ram manager pro from play store..

Advanced Task Killer from playstore is one of the best app that y are looking for!!
If i helped you hit thanks button
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Log off your Facebook account
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Advanced Task Killer from playstore is one of the best app that y are looking for!!
If i helped you hit thanks button
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Task killer can harm your phone
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dagger said:
Delete the useless apps like FB.....
And use ram manager pro from play store..
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IAmNice said:
Of freeze them!
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NRG001 said:
Log off your Facebook account
Task killer can harm your phone
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Thanks guys for checking my post
But the problem is that i need this apps but i just want them to start whenever i want not whenever they wont
I cant freez fb because the synced contacts will be gone
And sure thing I wont be using task killer
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Log off your Facebook account
Task killer can harm your phone
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task killer does not harm your phone
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Zewarxx said:
Hey everyone
as we all know the ram of the x8 is so small :'(, and some apps like the ****y Facebook takes about 50 mb from the ram
I need an application that block apps from starting on their own
I found one for controling which app should start on boot but I need another to control them after that
thanks in advance
Ps :locked bootloader can't do swapping
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open the app once..go in settings force close it.. it wont start again till you connect internet..

I use ES task killer , mainly reason is to clean cache fast.And delete facebook app is like twilight for your phone.
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Alternatively you can enjoy ur facebook through any good browser like one browser and manage ur ram with ram manager pro.
I do it that way.
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Mockingbird said:
I use ES task killer , mainly reason is to clean cache fast.And delete facebook app is like twilight for your phone.
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hehe I need it to sync contacts
leecorp said:
Alternatively you can enjoy ur facebook through any good browser like one browser and manage ur ram with ram manager pro.
I do it that way.
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I'm using it also thanks buddy
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cybervibin said:
So i saw many posts on which people have asked as to which task killer should be used !
and then i stumble upon this site which provided me the details,
*I HAVE NOT WRITTEN THIS*
sources-by Chris Hoffman
http://www.howtogeek.com/127388/htg-explains-why-you-shouldnt-use-a-task-killer-on-android/
Android Doesn’t Manage Processes Like Windows
Most Android users are familiar with Windows. On Windows, many programs running at one time – whether they’re windows on your desktop or applications in your system tray – can decrease your computer’s performance. Closing applications when you’re not using them can help speed up your Windows computer.
However, Android isn’t Windows and doesn’t manage processes like Windows does. Unlike on Windows, where there’s an obvious way to close applications, there’s no obvious way to “close” an Android application. This is by design and isn’t a problem. When you leave an Android app, going back to your home screen or switching to another app, the app stays “running” in the background. In most cases, the app will be paused in the background, taking up no CPU or network resources. Some apps will continue using CPU and network resources in the background, of course – for example, music players, file-downloading programs, or apps that sync in the background.
When you go back to an app you were recently using, Android “unpauses” that app and you resume where you left off. This is fast because the app is still stored in your RAM and ready to be used again.
Why Task Killers Are Bad
Proponents of task killers notice that Android is using a lot of RAM – in fact, Android stores a lot of apps in its memory, filling up the RAM! However, that isn’t a bad thing. Apps stored in your RAM can be quickly switched to without Android having to load them from its slower storage.
In summary, you shouldn’t use a task killer – if you have a misbehaving app wasting resources in the background, you should identify it and uninstall it. But don’t just remove apps from your phone or tablet’s RAM – that doesn’t help speed anything up.
Empty RAM is useless. Full RAM is RAM that is being put to good use for caching apps. If Android needs more memory, it will force-quit an app that you haven’t used in a while – this all happens automatically, without installing any task killers.
Task killers think they know better than Android. They run in the background, automatically quitting apps and removing them from Android’s memory. They may also allow you to force-quit apps on your own, but you shouldn’t have to do this.
Task killers aren’t just useless – they can reduce performance. If a task killer removes an app from your RAM and you open that app again, the app will be slower to load as Android is forced to load it from your device’s storage. This will also use more battery power than if you just left the app in your RAM in the first place. Some apps will automatically restart after the task killer quits them, using more CPU and battery resources.
Whether RAM is empty or full, it takes the same amount of battery power – decreasing the amount of apps stored in RAM won’t improve your battery power or offer more CPU cycles.
hope u understood!
words of wisdom by fellow-mates
go into settings - apps and see how many running apps you have. now go to cached apps and see there, how many apps there are. you see? nearly 50% of those apps discovered by you in the processes are apps that you didn't opened ever but they are still opened and running. why? because that's how linux manages its resources. instead of having free ram for no use (what's the point of having 14gb of ram when you only use 1gb), linux fills all the ram blocks with useful apps or apps that you are running frequently so that when you call that app, it will bring it on the screen almost instantly. this my friend, is called multitasking.
and no, you are wrong. if you use a task killer killing the apps every 10 minutes, the cycles the whole system does - opening again apps and caching them, task killer closing them - results in much more functions done by CPU => more battery spent. even if you say that the battery life its the same, you are wrong. when using a task killer IT MIGHT drain your battery with 0.1% per hour. it's not that much, but IT EXIST.
oh and yeah, one thing: android has its own task killer. that's why you don't need one app to kill your other apps. because android its doing it by itself. if you don't believe me, strip down one kernel, open the init.rc file and find the values for task killer.
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Zewarxx said:
Hey everyone
as we all know the ram of the x8 is so small :'(, and some apps like the ****y Facebook takes about 50 mb from the ram
I need an application that block apps from starting on their own
I found one for controling which app should start on boot but I need another to control them after that
thanks in advance
Ps :locked bootloader can't do swapping
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I don't know if this is helpful or not but I'm trying to help you. I don't recommend you to use an application to block apps from starting on their own because it will ruin how Android managed it memory consumption. Since you've talked that Facebook app takes about 50MB of RAM I recommend you to use this instead of Facebook official app.
Hope I helped you.

Thanks man I got it now its bad to do such a thing
^_^
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Q:Best settings for battery

Hello.i want to know what settings do you use on your SGS for a good battery life but without losing to much performance.
I use x-bean 3.0 with semaphore kernel v2.4.0s.
Share your configs if you like.thank you all!
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As I don't own a SGS but a + I probably have different settings, but what always helps for me is downloading JuiceDefender. If you don't know this app, you should try it
For example: You can imagine your phone uses some battery life to stay connected to 3g, wifi etc. One of this settings disables your 3g/wifi whenever you turn your screen of, and enables it when you turn it on. For me, this improved my battery life big time. There are settings which allow your phone to enable wifi once while, but that's all up to the options.
As for what the best settings are for a 'decent' performance is quite different to what you experience as a decent performance.

Really?thank you i will give it a try.but i need wifi to be working all the time.i know that use a lot of battery but my biggest problem is my screen.this is what drains ny battery.lol.now i have checked the auto feature for the screen.we will see.thank you for your quick reply and for your help! :thumbup:
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You shold try Advanced Task Killer (as a widget especially, easy to use) - see attachement. It kills your background apps, saving RAM, and batterty. You must have 100MB+ free RAM at least...
Also, if you're not using 3G, you should turn it off, because this is one of "the biggest problems" for battery... (same thing with Wi-Fi or bluetooth).
So...if you have at least 100MB RAM free, and a little usage of 3G and Wi-Fi, you should have 2-3 hours of "screen on" batterty-life

Yeah i had this app on my wildfire but when i got this phine and i saw that there is a tasj killer onboard i thought that its not gonna help me.but i remember that with this app you have by far morr options of killing apps.
Btw whats the name of your clock widget? Beautiful widgets or something else? :thumbup:
Thanks for recommending the app btw! :thumbup:
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the name of widget is "GO Weather EX"
your current ROM probably has Task Manager by default, but there are many ROMs without it by default, so ... then...you'll need it
anyway, for me, even if I have Task Manager by default it's more easier to just click on a small widget on the homescreen than open Task Manager...clear RAM...bla bla bla

AllexSCV1 said:
the name of widget is "GO Weather EX"
your current ROM probably has Task Manager by default, but there are many ROMs without it by default, so ... then...you'll need it
anyway, for me, even if I have Task Manager by default it's more easier to just click on a small widget on the homescreen than open Task Manager...clear RAM...bla bla bla
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hehe.you are right.its better to press one key than to press more.Go Weather Ex needs the GO Ex launcher or is a standalone?

standalone ... I have Holo Launched HD ...

Nice thank you!
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AllexSCV1 said:
You shold try Advanced Task Killer (as a widget especially, easy to use) - see attachement. It kills your background apps, saving RAM, and batterty. You must have 100MB+ free RAM at least...
Also, if you're not using 3G, you should turn it off, because this is one of "the biggest problems" for battery... (same thing with Wi-Fi or bluetooth).
So...if you have at least 100MB RAM free, and a little usage of 3G and Wi-Fi, you should have 2-3 hours of "screen on" batterty-life
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Task killers? In what century do you live? They drain the battery more than helping anything which has been proven a zillion times. Linux is not Windows.
So at thread starter: Don't use task killers. The CPU will have to push the tasks into RAM again and thus won't go into deep sleep.
Everything else was already mentioned: Juice Defender, Underclocking to 800 MHz and using a decent governor.
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There are few things in my signature as well...
you might want to have a look.

I just saw your signature and yiur topic about saving battery etc is great!thank you!
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Grigoris0r20r said:
I just saw your signature and yiur topic about saving battery etc is great!thank you!
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great..keep checking it I will be updating it soon in this week.

erpurohit said:
great..keep checking it I will be updating it soon in this week.
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Ok!:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
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Battery Improvements Tips?

Does any body have any tips to improve battery? Maybe some apps to freeze in Titanium, im also familiar with greenify. Just dont want to disable to many settings like sync etc since it kinda defeats the purpose of have the phone. I ended up disabling google now. Feels like it was draining my batt.

There's some great tips in Mega's op.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2916463

Check here for apps you can freeze if you don't use them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=59070445
LAG Fix and FROZEN Apps
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