Is anyone experiencing lag issues with the Note as it keeps apps open chewing up memory?
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No. I have root and use Autorun Manager to to stop apps starting when they feel like it. There is no lag any more.
i think we have to keep killing apps when they are not in use in order to avoid lagging.
happyuser said:
i think we have to keep killing apps when they are not in use in order to avoid lagging.
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That will just waste more battery as the apps just pop up again.
If you don't need them, stop them starting. If they are no longer 'active', Android will dump them when required.
I truly believe the only way is to stop the ones you don't want starting from starting when they want to. I immediately increased battery life by 50%.
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What has everyone been doing to close apps since Froyo doesn't work with task killers? For me its not a matter of my Nexus getting bogged down sometimes I just want an app closed when I don't use it.
apollostees said:
What has everyone been doing to close apps since Froyo doesn't work with task killers? For me its not a matter of my Nexus getting bogged down sometimes I just want an app closed when I don't use it.
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So lets ignore the fact that stopping normal running apps will slow down your phone and increase battery usage and assume you must have a good reason.
That reason must be the app is not behaving well, so just stop it from the Manage Applications section in settings.
Cool. Thanks.
Question though: how does stopping an app slow down the phone? Other than I guess the initial action. I have often wondered why a self shutdown isn't written into most apps such as on a desktop OS.
Android will keep the app in memory, but it will not run. So keeping it 'running' isn't using any battery. But if you decide to switch back to it, it is already loaded and ready to go.
If you force close it, then it needs to reload completely again when you go back.
When it is in memory it is not slowing down the phone, or taking any battery. If a new app needs the memory, Android closes the old app instantly without any noticeable performance issues.
So by forcing them closed you are forcing Android to spend more time and battery to reload it every time you go back. By leaving it open, you let Android do the best thing with it. Which means when you go back to it, it could still be there waiting.
I love my Captivate but 2 things bother me.
1) Why does the music player start every time I unplug the wired headset? I've tested and it's not running BEFORE I plug the headset in.
2) Why do so many apps automatically start in the background? I will use Process Killer to bring it down to 1 or 2 apps running and next thing I know, there are 7 or 8 and I haven't started any of them! This especially bothers me with the AT&t bloatware apps that cost extra to use.
Any info/fixes would be appreciated!
willyboy28 said:
I love my Captivate but 2 things bother me.
1) Why does the music player start every time I unplug the wired headset? I've tested and it's not running BEFORE I plug the headset in.
2) Why do so many apps automatically start in the background? I will use Process Killer to bring it down to 1 or 2 apps running and next thing I know, there are 7 or 8 and I haven't started any of them! This especially bothers me with the AT&t bloatware apps that cost extra to use.
Any info/fixes would be appreciated!
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1) I have never heard of this happening to anyone before
2) there are allot of applications and processes that have dependencies on other applications and processes - they will need to be running for your phone to operate properly.
Don't fall into the idea that you need to manage the memory on your android phone the same way you would a windows machine. unless you have installed a bad acting or poorly coded application your android phone will shut down what ever processes need shut when they need shut down all on its own.
The only reason you should use or need any kind of task manager or task killer is to check every now and then to see if you do have a bad acting memory/cpu hog causing problems. too many people use task killers have them running in auto without knowing what they are doing and a dependent needed processes get killed and they can't figure out why their phone acts so buggy.
Thanks for the reply
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1) I have never heard of this happening to anyone before
2) there are allot of applications and processes that have dependencies on other applications and processes - they will need to be running for your phone to operate properly.
Don't fall into the idea that you need to manage the memory on your android phone the same way you would a windows machine. unless you have installed a bad acting or poorly coded application your android phone will shut down what ever processes need shut when they need shut down all on its own.
The only reason you should use or need any kind of task manager or task killer is to check every now and then to see if you do have a bad acting memory/cpu hog causing problems. too many people use task killers have them running in auto without knowing what they are doing and a dependent needed processes get killed and they can't figure out why their phone acts so buggy.
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Well then, Youtube running for no apparent reason at all would be a dependancy of exactly what?
Maybe the only reason YOU would need a task killer is what you stated above, I am using it to see what's going on on my phone and if I am in danger of ending up with charges I'm not willing to pay for. But thanks for the reply.
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Well then, Youtube running for no apparent reason at all would be a dependancy of exactly what?
Maybe the only reason YOU would need a task killer is what you stated above, I am using it to see what's going on on my phone and if I am in danger of ending up with charges I'm not willing to pay for. But thanks for the reply.
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Using it to watch what your phone is doing learn what's going on is a good idea - but I would avoid shutting anything down until you do know why or what process started it - if you shut them down without knowing why they are running then you will continue to see them restarted for apparently no reason.
As for youtube, if you had been recently browsing the web one of the pages you visited may of contained a link to a file your phone has associated with youtube. Also you may have installed some app that triggers youtube, but just killing it without knowing why it is running may keep you from finding out what is going on and cause some other unexplained strange bug.
I have seen more than one person have their phone go from being buggy to running well when they stopped killing processes and turned off any auto killing functions of their task killer/manager and just watched their phone run for a couple days while letting the phone handle shutting processes down.
But as far as watching your phone closely and learning what it is doing, I am all for this - at the same time I don't want to be promoting paranoid behavior - but being informed and having a good idea what's going on with your phone wil definitely make you more capable of trouble shooting if and when the need arises.
And just be sure to check you bill every month and see what your being billed.
I found that removing the AT&T bloat to be almost mandatory to have a great running phone.
Couple that with the custom ROM's found here - and the device is awesome. I have no need to kill any processes. I do open up System Monitor to see what is going on with the device - but that is the beauty of Android - you can actually see EVERYTHING that is running on it.. and based on any errant process - you can kill it.
But.. there are a million articles on if Task Killers are a benefit or a hindrance to your phone's battery life and performance.
Bottom Line - be smart with your phone like your computer... don't download a bunch of crap, watch where you browse, and keep an eye on your sys monitor to see how your phone is behaving.
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avgjoegeek said:
I found that removing the AT&T bloat to be almost mandatory to have a great running phone.
Couple that with the custom ROM's found here - and the device is awesome. I have no need to kill any processes. I do open up System Monitor to see what is going on with the device - but that is the beauty of Android - you can actually see EVERYTHING that is running on it.. and based on any errant process - you can kill it.
But.. there are a million articles on if Task Killers are a benefit or a hindrance to your phone's battery life and performance.
Bottom Line - be smart with your phone like your computer... don't download a bunch of crap, watch where you browse, and keep an eye on your sys monitor to see how your phone is behaving.
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Joe, where is the System Monitor?
I've not come up with the nads yet to root the phone and remove the bloat. I'm not in any hurry, the phone runs great. As I tried to explain before, I'm curious as to why these applications end up running at random, without my even touching the phone. I will clear all apps from running and lay the phone down and not touch it. On my last look, 2 messaging apps were running, Youtube, AT&T Navigator, Where's my Droid and Gallery. Bear in mind, I had not touched the phone. I just cleared it again and will look after bit to see what has started.
I am also looking for any theories as to why my music player starts when I pull the headset out from being on a phone call.
Although appreciated, I am not looking for opinions on what I should and shouldn't be doing with my phone.
Lol. I just to trying a piece of advice - I know it is your phone and you can do with it what you please.
But go ahead and keep killing processes without knowing what your doing and see if you have more or less strange buggy behavior.
FYI - messaging apps are generally coded to almost continually sync in the background - to see if you have any new messages and will restart every time you stop them - if you want to know instantly of any new messages they will have to run
Att navigator - att is trying to shove this app on you so they have it set to start any time your phone starts any locating process - and your phone will almost continually be trying to figure out its location
Wheres my droid - is either trying to figure out where it is or preparing to figure out where is to be ready to let you know when you ask - if this program did not have something triggering it to keep it running all the time it would be a pretty useless piece of software don't you think
Gallery - pretty much any media syncing process wil start gallery - and allot of media processes have some type of background media sync process
As for youtube - I'm not sure yet
Question: If we use a program like autostarts to simply prevent an app from ever starting, is this good enough? Basically, I just don't want the blaot to run and drain the battery and available RAM; I don't especially care if the APK remains and takes up storage space. If we just prevent it from running, does this eliminate the possibilty of problems upon deletion? what do you guys think? What is the general opinion of Autostarts?
It seems like it has the potential to clean alot of the Android bloatware and loosen things up a bit! I'd try it out. Some of the things you can disable i'd love to disable but I think I want to wait until there is a recovery JUST in case.. But if you think it makes your phone faster but safer, then yeah it is enough!
I did a mass app update in the Play Store last night (c.18 apps but crucially, I don't remember which ones!) and am now stuck in the following loop:
1. Boot handset (S3 LTE)
2. Watch responsiveness get progressively worse over period of a few minutes while available RAM shrinks progressively to zero
3. Phone shuts down or soft reboots when it runs out of available RAM.
I can't see any obvious culprit but then am no real expert in what I'm looking for. Desperate to avoid factory reset, particularly as I can't even get the phone to stay on long enough to sort out my backups.
Any thoughts?
Install this then run it as soon as you have booted up, it will stop the apps and free up your ram.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5jbGVhbm1hc3Rlci5tZ3VhcmQiXQ..
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Install this then run it as soon as you have booted up, it will stop the apps and free up your ram.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5jbGVhbm1hc3Rlci5tZ3VhcmQiXQ..
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Thanks for the suggestion but the task killer shows no tasks running (and therefore nothing to kill), which fits with what the native task manager is saying. I don't know whether it's some background process but whatever it is, it seems quite hard to identify!
Very confused. From what (admittedly little) I understand, it should be impossible for Android to "run out of" RAM, which is exactly what's happening to me. Which begs the question, why isn't the system doing what it is supposed to? Which in turn makes me think this may not actually be app-related.
Sorry, bit stream of consciousness but if anyone else has any ideas they'd be gratefully received.
maybe some apps don't play well togheter and triger this issue, is your phone rooted?
maranello69 said:
maybe some apps don't play well togheter and triger this issue, is your phone rooted?
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Possibly, I guess the question is which apps? Yes, I am rooted.
Starting to wonder whether this is related to the problems with SuperSU that seem to have arisen in the last update.
dave_uk said:
Possibly, I guess the question is which apps? Yes, I am rooted.
Starting to wonder whether this is related to the problems with SuperSU that seem to have arisen in the last update.
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In case this is of use to anyone else, having now unrooted and removed SuperSU, problem seems to have disappeared! Chainfire is working on a fix.
Can anyone link me to a custom rom that gets rid of the memory leak present in Note 4 on 5.0.1. It's crazy that Samsung would even release 5.0.1 they should have skipped straight to 5.1. My ram usage will not go below 2.1GB. I have tried Clean Master, Battery Doctor, Rebooting and Force Kill.
It has to be a custom rom with Touchwiz not Cyanogenmod because I love the Note 4 features
there isnt any memory leak on any samsung lollipop only s6 has it.
I've never seen my Note 4 even get to 2GB in use, ever. What are you running to get it so high?
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I've never seen my Note 4 even get to 2GB in use, ever. What are you running to get it so high?
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He's not the only one. Ive frozen most of the services and apps and the memory use is over 2gb 99%+ of the time
kalinskym said:
Can anyone link me to a custom rom that gets rid of the memory leak present in Note 4 on 5.0.1. It's crazy that Samsung would even release 5.0.1 they should have skipped straight to 5.1. My ram usage will not go below 2.1GB. I have tried Clean Master, Battery Doctor, Rebooting and Force Kill.
It has to be a custom rom with Touchwiz not Cyanogenmod because I love the Note 4 features
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My only question is: Have you seen any drawbacks in usage or it is just the effect that you are looking at the available ram and you see it over 2GB and assume it is wrong? Because let me say this: Note 4 and 5.0.1 does not have memory leak. Did you experience apps crashing on a regular basis?The "memory leak" basically stops RAM from clearing out automatically and disallowing other underlying processes to make use of the space. This in turn results in the apps getting killed or crashing automatically. I assume not...apps crashing constantly is the first sign of a memory leak. The only memory leaks reported were on Nexus devices and Google patched them. So basically...free ram is wasted ram on an Android platform. And if this high usage that you see (over 2gb) does not cause apps crashing and phone slower you have nothing to worry about it's just your OS working as it should Cheers!
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He's not the only one. Ive frozen most of the services and apps and the memory use is over 2gb 99%+ of the time
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Where are you seeing that figure? If it's in the touchwiz memory manager than that's a misleading figure since it count cached applications in it's figure which isn't really used memory. You need to check the real Android memory stats to see the real usage.
Im using task manger. this is with all apps killed.
K, thank you for the quick replies. It says a lot in Clean Master 85% of available memory is being used and wanting me to keep having to boost the phone. Have you guys notice any poor battery life with Bluetooth on running lollipop? Can't seem to get half a day usage even with the screen off. It also says in Task Manager 2GB+ is being used. I keep clearing it, but it does not go down. Could it be because gear manager won't close, as it will disconnect my Gear S
No problem here
I hope
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K, thank you for the quick replies. It says a lot in Clean Master 85% of available memory is being used and wanting me to keep having to boost the phone. Have you guys notice any poor battery life with Bluetooth on running lollipop? Can't seem to get half a day usage even with the screen off. It also says in Task Manager 2GB+ is being used. I keep clearing it, but it does not go down. Could it be because gear manager won't close, as it will disconnect my Gear S
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You have only one problem to resolve. Deinstall Clean Master, don't believe in phone "boost" and some unpossible clean effect.
If you haven't problems with applications crash or freeze your "problem" doesn't exist.
Bluetooth has significant influence on battery life. Not services, but bluetooth radio itself.
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Stop killing apps with ram booster. It will make your phone slower in reopening apps and consume more battery. Search for some articles on Google to find out why the ram cleaners or launchers with ram cleanear included are so bad for your phone. Android has a very good ram management and you don't need other programs. If you want to see less consumption on your ram disable or uninstall the apps you don't use. Try to open and close a simple task like phone book and after try the same thing after you killed the process with a ram cleaner. You will see that it takes a long time to re-open, and also your procesor will work harder to open the app.
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I'm still going over some logcats but I'm positive the way 5.0 handles RAM is a problem. Haven't been able to pinpoint the issue yet but 5.0 is definitely allocating memory differently than 4.4 and not necessarily in the best way.
Why am I doing any of this? Because fun of course, but also because I noticed home screen redraws were becoming more frequent, and apps were refreshing when a device that has 3gb of RAM shouldn't experience too often. When compared to my Note 3 on 4.4, side by side, running some taxing apps, I've seen a substantial difference.
K thank you. Will uninstall Clean Master and see if my performance improves. Report back. Anyone found a way to open camera when rooted without unlocking phone with fingerprint by double tapping home button. Sorry about posting it in this fourms, just wondering. Hope the Zerolemon battery case improves my battery life, getting it soon. Heard it's not very accurate being that it has 3 batteries and the phone doesn't always get the right reading
I have the same thing here even i noticed apps need to refresh when multitasking frequently
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i think there are a few leaks in 5.0.1, so far we have 1 leak fixed in the kernel and 1 in the rom (thanks to robocik) but ram usage remains high.
not that that is a bad thing...apps only open faster, so that's good, but especially the touchwiz redraws are insane after a while.
every time you press the home button or the greenify button, it redraws the launcher completely.
so even after 2 fixes it's still present
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i think there are a few leaks in 5.0.1, so far we have 1 leak fixed in the kernel and 1 in the rom (thanks to robocik) but ram usage remains high.
not that that is a bad thing...apps only open faster, so that's good, but especially the touchwiz redraws are insane after a while.
every time you press the home button or the greenify button, it redraws the launcher completely.
so even after 2 fixes it's still present
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im using totaly stock and my ram usage is 1.83 gb constantly with tw launcher and nova makes it 1.6 or something. never saw a single launcher redraw on note 4 and ram usage was totaly same for me on kitkat too. im having serious ram issues on s6 but didnt see any problem with note 4 lollipop
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im using totaly stock and my ram usage is 1.83 gb constantly with tw launcher and nova makes it 1.6 or something. never saw a single launcher redraw on note 4 and ram usage was totaly same for me on kitkat too. im having serious ram issues on s6 but didnt see any problem with note 4 lollipop
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odd, if i don't use greenify and just stock touchwiz i have an average of 2.3Gb of ram in use
and it redraws the launcher on every press on the home button
thankfully the n4 doesn't have it as bad as the s6, but it could be a lot better
Never had a launcher redraw using Nova and Servicely to kill apps on screen off. I'm running at around 2.2GB of ram usage always.
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odd, if i don't use greenify and just stock touchwiz i have an average of 2.3Gb of ram in use
and it redraws the launcher on every press on the home button
thankfully the n4 doesn't have it as bad as the s6, but it could be a lot better
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dunno generally i dont even close any app and i dont have any problem with ram or multitasking.
Seems like the majority of users in this fourms use Nova Launcher. Does it decrease the ram usage. At the moment I am running Flow Home, I think it redraws everytime the home button is pressed.