I did a mass app update in the Play Store last night (c.18 apps but crucially, I don't remember which ones!) and am now stuck in the following loop:
1. Boot handset (S3 LTE)
2. Watch responsiveness get progressively worse over period of a few minutes while available RAM shrinks progressively to zero
3. Phone shuts down or soft reboots when it runs out of available RAM.
I can't see any obvious culprit but then am no real expert in what I'm looking for. Desperate to avoid factory reset, particularly as I can't even get the phone to stay on long enough to sort out my backups.
Any thoughts?
Install this then run it as soon as you have booted up, it will stop the apps and free up your ram.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5jbGVhbm1hc3Rlci5tZ3VhcmQiXQ..
Raistlin1158 said:
Install this then run it as soon as you have booted up, it will stop the apps and free up your ram.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5jbGVhbm1hc3Rlci5tZ3VhcmQiXQ..
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Thanks for the suggestion but the task killer shows no tasks running (and therefore nothing to kill), which fits with what the native task manager is saying. I don't know whether it's some background process but whatever it is, it seems quite hard to identify!
Very confused. From what (admittedly little) I understand, it should be impossible for Android to "run out of" RAM, which is exactly what's happening to me. Which begs the question, why isn't the system doing what it is supposed to? Which in turn makes me think this may not actually be app-related.
Sorry, bit stream of consciousness but if anyone else has any ideas they'd be gratefully received.
maybe some apps don't play well togheter and triger this issue, is your phone rooted?
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maybe some apps don't play well togheter and triger this issue, is your phone rooted?
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Possibly, I guess the question is which apps? Yes, I am rooted.
Starting to wonder whether this is related to the problems with SuperSU that seem to have arisen in the last update.
dave_uk said:
Possibly, I guess the question is which apps? Yes, I am rooted.
Starting to wonder whether this is related to the problems with SuperSU that seem to have arisen in the last update.
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In case this is of use to anyone else, having now unrooted and removed SuperSU, problem seems to have disappeared! Chainfire is working on a fix.
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I may seem like a noob, because I am. I just got this phone recently, installed a bunch of apps including blackmark (free apps) but ever since my phone has slowed down drastically, and unless I have no tasks running answering a call takes forever, and by then the phone usually just freezes up and makes it impossible to answer a call. I'm not rooted, but I have thought about rooting but it seems too complicated.
Please any help would be nice!
Thanks
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I may seem like a noob, because I am. I just got this phone recently, installed a bunch of apps including blackmark (free apps) but ever since my phone has slowed down drastically, and unless I have no tasks running answering a call takes forever, and by then the phone usually just freezes up and makes it impossible to answer a call. I'm not rooted, but I have thought about rooting but it seems too complicated.
Please any help would be nice!
Thanks
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Root would not solve the problem. Look in settings/apps/running and see of there are any background processes hogging cpu and memory, then uninstall them. The stock apps shouldnt cause any issues, user apps just uninstall from the launcher by hitting the settings icon in top right corner and hitting the app you want to delete. Failing this perform a factory reset, but backup anything on your internal sd you want to keep as it will get wiped
Sent from my rooted and beanified P880
My gf's Moto X (1st gen, stock, unrooted, Verizon, 4.4.4) has been freaking out lately and she brought it to me to investigate. The thing will sporadically tie up all of its RAM and basically become unusable. Phone gets hot and battery drains fast.
I understand how Android handles memory, so this isnt me being paranoid about available RAM...im talking about less than 20mb of available RAM and I cant even open the app drawer because it crashes. I clear all recent apps, force close anything i can, and no RAM opens up at all. Only solution is reboot and then its only good for a few hours until it gets jammed up again.
Sounds like a software issue to me, so a factory reset should fix it, but i just dont want to deal with backing up my gf's crap and heaven forbid i miss something and lose it forever. Anyone have any ideas?
PS - gsam battery monitor shows nothing noteworthy...doesnt report weird app usage, and no wakelocks or anything like that seems out of the ordinary.
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My gf's Moto X (1sr gen, stock, unrooted) has been freaking out lately and she brought it to me to investigate. The thing will sporadically tie up all of its RAM and basically become unusable. Phone gets hot and battery drains fast.
I understand how Android handles memory, so this isnt me being paranoid about available RAM...im talking about less than 20mb of available RAM and I cant even open the app drawer because it crashes. I clear all recent apps, force close anything i can, and no RAM opens up at all. Only solution is reboot and then its only good for a few hours until it gets jammed up again.
Sounds like a software issue to me, so a factory reset should fix it, but i just dont want to deal with backing up my gf's crap and heaven forbid i miss something and lose it forever. Anyone have any ideas?
PS - gsam battery monitor shows nothing noteworthy...doesnt report weird app usage, and no wakelocks or anything like that seems out of the ordinary.
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Version of Android? Carrier?
What apps are installed? Non-stock launcher?
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Version of Android? Carrier?
What apps are installed? Non-stock launcher?
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Updated in OP. Verizon, latest version (i believe Verizon has 4.4.4 up for moto x, so that would be the one)
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Updated in OP. Verizon, latest version (i believe Verizon has 4.4.4 up for moto x, so that would be the one)
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Something like Watchdog Task Manager or a memory monitor app might help you figure out what's misbehaving. Logcat might give some clues.
Personally, I think I would just prefer to backup what is necessary and reset the device. You might spend a lot of time trying to attack this from any other direction. Good luck.
Basically, I have a Z1 I'm running Android 4.3 On it. (and I in no way intend to get 4.4 anytime soon by the way).
It has started to get a bit buggy and laggy, a few white screens and slow loading times here and there but I can generally deal with that, what I can't deal with however is that:
1. Apps will randomly minimise and I'll go back to the home screen, when I try to go back to the app sometimes it works but usually it will come back for a few seconds and then minimise again or even just do it right away. This happens particularly when using Chrome, more particularly when I am zooming or trying to type.
Which brings on to issue 2:
The keyboard takes ages to load, like up to a minute after I've clicked in a text box, this can also cause apps to then minimise again, very frustrating not being able to type. This has also started to occur when trying to text, but it's mainly in chrome.
This would lead me to think that the RAM isn't coping very well, but I do try to clear caches and stop apps from running but still I generally only have between 120-150mb of free RAM, so what can/should I do?
I'm tempted to factory reset to be honest.
Thanks in advance for your help, I know that this forum is the place to be for Androiders. :fingers-crossed:
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Basically, I have a Z1 I'm running Android 4.3 On it. (and I in no way intend to get 4.4 anytime soon by the way).
It has started to get a bit buggy and laggy, a few white screens and slow loading times here and there but I can generally deal with that, what I can't deal with however is that:
1. Apps will randomly minimise and I'll go back to the home screen, when I try to go back to the app sometimes it works but usually it will come back for a few seconds and then minimise again or even just do it right away. This happens particularly when using Chrome, more particularly when I am zooming or trying to type.
Which brings on to issue 2:
The keyboard takes ages to load, like up to a minute after I've clicked in a text box, this can also cause apps to then minimise again, very frustrating not being able to type. This has also started to occur when trying to text, but it's mainly in chrome.
This would lead me to think that the RAM isn't coping very well, but I do try to clear caches and stop apps from running but still I generally only have between 120-150mb of free RAM, so what can/should I do?
I'm tempted to factory reset to be honest.
Thanks in advance for your help, I know that this forum is the place to be for Androiders. :fingers-crossed:
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Factory reset is the only logical thing j could recommend, short of an update. Any reason as to why you're avoiding the kitkat update? It's running like a dream on my Z1
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Factory reset is the only logical thing j could recommend, short of an update. Any reason as to why you're avoiding the kitkat update? It's running like a dream on my Z1
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Yeah I thought that a reset might be the best option.
Well I've often regretted doing OS updates on my phones in the past, and KitKat has some funny privacy and content management rules that I thought might stop me from really benefitting from the freedoms that I originally loved so much from Android, or am I wrong? Can I still move Apps around? My girlfriend got 4.4 on her S4 and it really ruined it, UI got clogged with Apps she couldn't use or delete! :silly:
I don't really want to root my phone either so It's a tough decision! :
Thanks for your help.
KK to sdcard saving is easy
root takes 3 minutes
benefits ? 300000000000000 minutes of your life saved from the stress and headaches
keyboard and apps dont minimize (which is just a bonus)
For issue no.1, I used to have that. I ended up reinstalling my rom, ROMAUR 9.1, and actually reloaded all my apps via titanium backup but without their data. This helped my phone out a lot.
Before I did this, pressing the recent apps softkey button would minimize to my home screen and pressing it again would do nothing. I'd have to wait some seconds before the function would work properly. My ram would be ok as well. But I noticed it more while I was using Swype. Switching to Google keyboard made it act up less.
For issue no.2, as I said, Swype would be the main cause of lag. In some cases, it was responsible for my softkeys not being responsive. I'd have to press home and go to settings and switch the keyboard. Then it would function properly.
I think what it comes down to is the active apps running. Swype is a large apk so utilizes more ram than other keyboard apps. There may be other apps I can't narrow down to that help bog the device down.
I hope this helps!
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Yeah I thought that a reset might be the best option.
Well I've often regretted doing OS updates on my phones in the past, and KitKat has some funny privacy and content management rules that I thought might stop me from really benefitting from the freedoms that I originally loved so much from Android, or am I wrong? Can I still move Apps around? My girlfriend got 4.4 on her S4 and it really ruined it, UI got clogged with Apps she couldn't use or delete! :silly:
I don't really want to root my phone either so It's a tough decision! :
Thanks for your help.
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SD Card management IS a pain. But, the advantages outweigh the cons. Given your situation, just do a clean install
Is there currently any ROM and/or Custom kernel, that doesn't suffer from the memory leak bug?
I am aware that similar questions come up on every other thread.
I also would love to try for myself. Stock KitKat and stock lollipop both suffer from the bug. On lollipop I have much more free ram, but chrome and other apps still redraw when multitasking.
Problem is, I don't want to unlock my bootloader yet, as I'm still considering giving back the phone.
Thanks in advance for any insightful advice.
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I am aware that similar questions come up on every other thread.
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Problem is, I don't want to unlock my bootloader yet, as I'm still considering giving back the phone.
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You seriously want an answer to that?
Just read "every other thread", then come to a conclusion and act accordingly. Or don't, since you don't want to unlock. Your choice.
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You seriously want an answer to that?
Just read "every other thread", then come to a conclusion and act accordingly. Or don't, since you don't want to unlock. Your choice.
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I've been reading "every other thread".
And yes, I seriously want an answer to that.
I never said, that I didn't want to unlock my bootloader, eventually I do want to unlock it. But according to your reply, I suppose you don't understand that. Nevermind.
Thanks, anyway.
Titan Prime will yield you the best results with memory, from my experience.
Besides that, all you can do is sit and wait for 5.1. And hope that it will fix the problem.
I've got a (german) XT1068, and I was on build RETDEALL 21.85-14 for the longest time (KK 4.4.4). The phone was sometimes close to unusable due to the memory issues: Almost every time I went back to my launcher (Nova) the widgets would reload (all two of them), every 5th time the whole launcher would have to be restarted. When listening to music, the player would often be killed when it's not the foreground app. This all was already with tuned settings and the like. Simply put, my Galaxy S2 was a much better phone, with better performance and multitasking (same amount of ram, but dual core only)...
I've updated to the 5.0.2 build that was (finally) released a few days ago (22.46-28). It's a world of difference. I would say the problems are either gone or at least they got the biggest of issues under control. So far I haven't had it running without a reboot for multiple days (installing xposed and associated modules tends to require reboots), but so far everything is looking perfectly fine. Widgets haven't reloaded even once, let alone the launcher. Multitasking works, even larger apps weren't killed (like reddit news, which tends to use quite a bit of ram after scrolling for a bit).
So I don't know whether it's fixed, but at the very least this is a fully-stock-option that works perfectly fine (for me), even though I'm rooted and use XPosed that is by no means necessary.
I also have the German OTA update. Everything works fine. As for the memory leak for me that is a thing of the past, was really bad in 4.4.4 and I had the same version as the above poster. Everything stopped in the background, in point of fact there was no multitasking. With 5.0.2 I can play music run a navigation app, surf the net no problem and still see over 400Mbyte free ram in setting all without the dreaded app has stopped working or seeing apps restarting.
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I also have the German OTA update. Everything works fine. As for the memory leak for me that is a thing of the past, was really bad in 4.4.4 and I had the same version as the above poster. Everything stopped in the background, in point of fact there was no multitasking. With 5.0.2 I can play music run a navigation app, surf the net no problem and still see over 400Mbyte free ram in setting all without the dreaded app has stopped working or seeing apps restarting.
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4.4.4 didn't have a memory leak, just high minfree values I think.
Lollipop does have a memory leak (and thats mostly googles fault) and the memory management is very buggy when compared to kitkat. The memory leak doesn't show instantly, it shows after some time and you can just reboot the phone to "solve the problem".
If you want a really good rom for multitasking I recommend CM 11 or some rom based on it.
4.4.4 definitely has some serious issues on the MotoG, it was not just the min free values. I had tuned those (basically tried everything), but it made no real difference. So far, LP feels like it's a different phone.
I agree. I can't understand how people would go back to KitKat after trying lollipop. Chrome and other apps still redraw when multitasking though. :\
Let's see if 5.1 fixes that.
BTW: does anyone get graphic glitches in Tapatalk and chrome? Sometimes whole areas of the screen turn glitchy, until I switch to another app or press the back key. (Glitchy= pixels in all colours, like an overheated GPU on a PC would produce.)
Hello my Note 4 is randomly rebooting all the time (it occurs randomly) and is slow (sometimes) when I use apps like messages, browsing the web etc...
I'm on the 6.0.1 marshmallow
I installed the clean master and battery saver apps and things were alittle better but it still is slow and restarts plus those apps are filled with spam and virus links so they will be deleted.
What are my options here to get this note running like new again?
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Hello my Note 4 is randomly rebooting all the time (it occurs randomly) and is slow (sometimes) when I use apps like messages, browsing the web etc...
I'm on the 6.0.1 marshmallow
I installed the clean master and battery saver apps and things were alittle better but it still is slow and restarts plus those apps are filled with spam and virus links so they will be deleted.
What are my options here to get this note running like new again?
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First of all you delete apps like clean master and battery saver cuz this app killing your processor ram and battery .android 6.0 is very well optimized and it can handle everything without any 3rd party app. Just make factory reset,disable apps you dont use ,do not install junk or ram cleaning apps or even battery saving apps,android Marshmallow allready has doze feature that save battery while you are not using phone and goes to deep sleep. go to settings/battery/detail and you will see all apps are in doze.
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First of all you delete apps like clean master and battery saver cuz this app killing your processor ram and battery .android 6.0 is very well optimized and it can handle everything without any 3rd party app. Just make factory reset,disable apps you dont use ,do not install junk or ram cleaning apps or even battery saving apps,android Marshmallow allready has doze feature that save battery while you are not using phone and goes to deep sleep. go to settings/battery/detail and you will see all apps are in doze.
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Any answers on the gentleman's inquiry though? I have a T-mobile Galaxy Note 4, and after having the phone for 1 year and a half, all of a sudden it started acting up last Thursday while I was running my stock 5.0.1, I had it rooted and TWRP on it since I bought it. The phone was a GREAT acquisition and I've always been an Android guy and started to learn about flashing, rooting and XDA since I had my S, S2. I thought that by simply upgrading my 910T to the new MM 6.0.1 everything was going to be taken care of and fixed, but boy was I so wrong.
Could you shed some light on this issue on this great phone?
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Any answers on the gentleman's inquiry though? I have a T-mobile Galaxy Note 4, and after having the phone for 1 year and a half, all of a sudden it started acting up last Thursday while I was running my stock 5.0.1, I had it rooted and TWRP on it since I bought it. The phone was a GREAT acquisition and I've always been an Android guy and started to learn about flashing, rooting and XDA since I had my S, S2. I thought that by simply upgrading my 910T to the new MM 6.0.1 everything was going to be taken care of and fixed, but boy was I so wrong.
Could you shed some light on this issue on this great phone?
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I think he answered pretty well. You should understand that these phones are, in essence, small computers. And like a computer, the phones will become fragmented and bog down overtime. The solution is a complete format of internal storage; wipe everything, format, cache and start from scratch. Odin is the best option so learn to use it if you haven't already.
Bruce lee roy said:
I think he answered pretty well. You should understand that these phones are, in essence, small computers. And like a computer, the phones will become fragmented and bog down overtime. The solution is a complete format of internal storage; wipe everything, format, cache and start from scratch. Odin is the best option so learn to use it if you haven't already.
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Thanks for your reply, however I asked the question to the gentleman as he only said to remove all of those junk third party apps as they were more harmful than anything else. I appreciate the lecture on what constitutes a phone, but I am very aware of it as well as being comfortable of the use of Odin and the rest of the steps. I have already done all that you suggested and the issues still occur after a week. Once again, I appreciate your reply.
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Thanks for your reply, however I asked the question to the gentleman as he only said to remove all of those junk third party apps as they were more harmful than anything else. I appreciate the lecture on what constitutes a phone, but I am very aware of it as well as being comfortable of the use of Odin and the rest of the steps. I have already done all that you suggested and the issues still occur after a week. Once again, I appreciate your reply.
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No problem. Response was not only intended for you but other members as well since you aren't the only one having performance issues. Only suggestions, you can take or leave whatever you'd like but you might get better results if you try harder to be a nice person.
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No problem. Response was not only intended for you but other members as well since you aren't the only one having performance issues.
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True! I stand corrected sir. I appreciate your assistance.
Hey guys, so today I tried a different battery cause my was bad and overheating and I can tell this one is good because it also is charging faster than before.
Now I did delete those apps clean master and battery saver like I said I would but I'm still getting random rebooting and slowness, one example would be I was typing a text and the phone took awhile to catch up to my typing and suddenly it restarted itself.
I'm not rooted and my rom is stock. Noticed today that my water indicator underneath the battery has triggered.
So I'm still looking for options...let me know, thanks.