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I did a mass app update in the Play Store last night (c.18 apps but crucially, I don't remember which ones!) and am now stuck in the following loop:
1. Boot handset (S3 LTE)
2. Watch responsiveness get progressively worse over period of a few minutes while available RAM shrinks progressively to zero
3. Phone shuts down or soft reboots when it runs out of available RAM.
I can't see any obvious culprit but then am no real expert in what I'm looking for. Desperate to avoid factory reset, particularly as I can't even get the phone to stay on long enough to sort out my backups.
Any thoughts?
Install this then run it as soon as you have booted up, it will stop the apps and free up your ram.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5jbGVhbm1hc3Rlci5tZ3VhcmQiXQ..
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Install this then run it as soon as you have booted up, it will stop the apps and free up your ram.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5jbGVhbm1hc3Rlci5tZ3VhcmQiXQ..
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Thanks for the suggestion but the task killer shows no tasks running (and therefore nothing to kill), which fits with what the native task manager is saying. I don't know whether it's some background process but whatever it is, it seems quite hard to identify!
Very confused. From what (admittedly little) I understand, it should be impossible for Android to "run out of" RAM, which is exactly what's happening to me. Which begs the question, why isn't the system doing what it is supposed to? Which in turn makes me think this may not actually be app-related.
Sorry, bit stream of consciousness but if anyone else has any ideas they'd be gratefully received.
maybe some apps don't play well togheter and triger this issue, is your phone rooted?
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maybe some apps don't play well togheter and triger this issue, is your phone rooted?
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Possibly, I guess the question is which apps? Yes, I am rooted.
Starting to wonder whether this is related to the problems with SuperSU that seem to have arisen in the last update.
dave_uk said:
Possibly, I guess the question is which apps? Yes, I am rooted.
Starting to wonder whether this is related to the problems with SuperSU that seem to have arisen in the last update.
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In case this is of use to anyone else, having now unrooted and removed SuperSU, problem seems to have disappeared! Chainfire is working on a fix.
I'm a really big fan of the look and feel of this phone, but I have noticed an alarming issue. It reminds me of the original HTC One that only had 1GB of RAM.
If I test it side-by-side with my OnePlus One, LG G3, or Note 4, I get the same results: Clearing all apps from memory and then systematically opening the same apps on both phones, if I multitask back to any of them on the Moto X, they have to completely reload. Every Chrome page reloads, too. I have also noticed that Nova launcher redraws with regularity, even when I check the option to force it to stay in memory.
My question is: Was it this bad on 4.4.4? Or is it a Lollipop issue? Because I updated to 5.0 right out of the box and if rolling it back will fix this, I'm all for it. There's no excuse for apps reloading this frequently on a modern smartphone with 2GB of RAM.
That's a Lollipop issue. No such problems on KitKat.
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That's a Lollipop issue. No such problems on KitKat.
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Thanks, dude. Looks like I'll be rolling back.
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Thanks, dude. Looks like I'll be rolling back.
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Yep, no prob. That's why all my devices are still on KK.
Flashed back to Kitkat. Memory management is definitely worse on 5.0, but even 4.4.4 kills apps faster than it should. Even with 1GB available most of the time, apps have to refresh much more often than they should.
Testing Methodology:
Side-by-side with OnePlus One
Open the same 7 apps on both phones (Dialer, Feedly, Reddit Sync Pro, Chrome to androidcentral.com, camera, Nine email client, messaging)
Cycle back and forth between apps using multitasking button on both phones
Observe app reload instances
Results: The OPO NEVER reloads anything. My Moto X will be fine for the first 3 or 4 apps, then it will reload the app completely, including androidcentral.com on Chrome. And if I have multiple tabs open in Chrome, it's worse. Yes, the OPO has 3GB of RAM, but there is still 1GB free on the Moto X when I perform this test, so there's no reason it should be actively killing the apps that quickly.
That being said, it is markedly better than on 5.0. Nova launcher NEVER redraws now, whereas it did constantly before. And I was never even able to cycle between two apps without one of them reloading. Still, I wish it handled memory a little better. This is eerily similar to the issue that plagued the original HTC One and it drove me to sell that phone.
I'm not here to bag on this phone. I'm a huge fan. I just want people to be informed.
greyhulk said:
Flashed back to Kitkat. Memory management is definitely worse on 5.0, but even 4.4.4 kills apps faster than it should. Even with 1GB available most of the time, apps have to refresh much more often than they should.
Testing Methodology:
Side-by-side with OnePlus One
Open the same 7 apps on both phones (Dialer, Feedly, Reddit Sync Pro, Chrome to androidcentral.com, camera, Nine email client, messaging)
Cycle back and forth between apps using multitasking button on both phones
Observe app reload instances
Results: The OPO NEVER reloads anything. My Moto X will be fine for the first 3 or 4 apps, then it will reload the app completely, including androidcentral.com on Chrome. And if I have multiple tabs open in Chrome, it's worse. Yes, the OPO has 3GB of RAM, but there is still 1GB free on the Moto X when I perform this test, so there's no reason it should be actively killing the apps that quickly.
That being said, it is markedly better than on 5.0. Nova launcher NEVER redraws now, whereas it did constantly before. And I was never even able to cycle between two apps without one of them reloading. Still, I wish it handled memory a little better. This is eerily similar to the issue that plagued the original HTC One and it drove me to sell that phone.
I'm not here to bag on this phone. I'm a huge fan. I just want people to be informed.
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Actually WOW. I made same comparison with N5 running 5.0.1. And Moto X is worse.. I'm surprised nobody noticed that fact earlier or in the reviews. If L on X is worse than KK I am definitely not updating. Love that phone, it's such a bummer that memory management is so aggressive.. But it's behavior on KK is little bit wired and different than L. Apps running in the background like for example last pass, are always there. And on L those were the ones to kill in the first place.
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Actually WOW. I made same comparison with N5 running 5.0.1. And Moto X is worse.. I'm surprised nobody noticed that fact earlier or in the reviews. If L on X is worse than KK I am definitely not updating. Love that phone, it's such a bummer that memory management is so aggressive.. But it's behavior on KK is little bit wired and different than L. Apps running in the background like for example last pass, are always there. And on L those were the ones to kill in the first place.
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Thanks for confirming. Usually when I post something like this, people reply and tell me I'm crazy or that their phone "multitasks fine".
Assuming that it's intentional, the only reason I can think Moto would do this is for battery life reasons (so nothing is running in the background draining), since it has a smaller battery. The other possibility is that they did it for the Moto G, which has 1GB of RAM and then just used the same image for both phones for the sake of consistency.
Either way, it's disappointing, especially after using the OPO and seeing the difference side-by-side. Really love this phone, but this bothers me more than it should.
I've noticed L is worse on the X versus my N5 as well. Navigating with maps and playing google music in the car is a nightmare.
Is this supposed to be fixed in 5.1?
I'm surprised not to see more posts about this issue. I've been noticing on my own phone that whenever I launch chrome or Google maps it tends to kill anything else that's running in the background (pocket casts, swipe pad, smart lock, stock launcher, etc.) it basically makes for a pretty unpleasant experience. Does anyone know if this is supposed to be fixed in 5.1?
I can confirm this issue too. Just to add more monitoring tool when you want to check the memory when such thing happens: developer options>>process stats>>duration 1 day>>click on the green bar and note the timing for which the memory was critical. I think the system deems the memory to be critical when it passes 1gb and starts to kill apps in the background. It never used to be like this on 4.4.4.
Please help contribute if you have any knowledge about using these stats.
Edit: i also noticed that during the time the memory was critical, the battery level dropped like a stone from 65%-55%. So i think its all also connected to the battery consumption being too much at times.
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Her'es my figures (phone uptime: only 17h)
Very bad I guess:
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Her'es my figures (phone uptime: only 17h)
Very bad I guess:
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OMG that is pretty bad! Was your phone going wonky at that time? I mean battery life and apps crashing etc
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OMG that is pretty bad! Was your phone going wonky at that time? I mean battery life and apps crashing etc
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No crashes nor battery drain but many launcher restarts.
I've now uninstalled an app ( "Lazy Swipe" which was on the "top" list) and seen a little improvement (no more launcher restart for the last 3 hours)
I plan to investigate a bit further, I may have another potential culprit (HeadsUp which I'm only using in car dock mode but appear to consume a lot of RAM and is running all of the time)
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BTW, I'm not running very memory intensive app like games.
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No crashes nor battery drain but many launcher restarts.
I've now uninstalled an app ( "Lazy Swipe" which was on the "top" list) and seen a little improvement (no more launcher restart for the last 3 hours)
I plan to investigate a bit further, I may have another potential culprit (HeadsUp which I'm only using in car dock mode but appear to consume a lot of RAM and is running all of the time)
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BTW, I'm not running very memory intensive app like games.
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Yeah unfortunately even when there is so much ram and you cant use many apps. I you wish you can report this to motorola on their forum. I have created a thread there: https://forums.motorola.com/posts/115c66d6c7
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After having uninstalled HeadsUp I've noticed a significant boot in responsiveness.
I'm going to keep an eye on memory stats for the next few hours
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After having uninstalled HeadsUp I've noticed a significant boot in responsiveness.
I'm going to keep an eye on memory stats for the next few hours
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I would suggest observing these for a full day without restarting. Then report to motorola. For me it was google plus updates causing the issue with memory. When i uninstalled updates it stopped. So also check the timing for which the apps are running in Application settings>>running. If the time for which the app is running is lesser than the total uptime, it might be your suspect.
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I have created a thread there: https://forums.motorola.com/posts/115c66d6c7
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I was already subscribed to that thread. But since my memory issues are pretty new, I prefer to start investigating by myself
Is there currently any ROM and/or Custom kernel, that doesn't suffer from the memory leak bug?
I am aware that similar questions come up on every other thread.
I also would love to try for myself. Stock KitKat and stock lollipop both suffer from the bug. On lollipop I have much more free ram, but chrome and other apps still redraw when multitasking.
Problem is, I don't want to unlock my bootloader yet, as I'm still considering giving back the phone.
Thanks in advance for any insightful advice.
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I am aware that similar questions come up on every other thread.
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Problem is, I don't want to unlock my bootloader yet, as I'm still considering giving back the phone.
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You seriously want an answer to that?
Just read "every other thread", then come to a conclusion and act accordingly. Or don't, since you don't want to unlock. Your choice.
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You seriously want an answer to that?
Just read "every other thread", then come to a conclusion and act accordingly. Or don't, since you don't want to unlock. Your choice.
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I've been reading "every other thread".
And yes, I seriously want an answer to that.
I never said, that I didn't want to unlock my bootloader, eventually I do want to unlock it. But according to your reply, I suppose you don't understand that. Nevermind.
Thanks, anyway.
Titan Prime will yield you the best results with memory, from my experience.
Besides that, all you can do is sit and wait for 5.1. And hope that it will fix the problem.
I've got a (german) XT1068, and I was on build RETDEALL 21.85-14 for the longest time (KK 4.4.4). The phone was sometimes close to unusable due to the memory issues: Almost every time I went back to my launcher (Nova) the widgets would reload (all two of them), every 5th time the whole launcher would have to be restarted. When listening to music, the player would often be killed when it's not the foreground app. This all was already with tuned settings and the like. Simply put, my Galaxy S2 was a much better phone, with better performance and multitasking (same amount of ram, but dual core only)...
I've updated to the 5.0.2 build that was (finally) released a few days ago (22.46-28). It's a world of difference. I would say the problems are either gone or at least they got the biggest of issues under control. So far I haven't had it running without a reboot for multiple days (installing xposed and associated modules tends to require reboots), but so far everything is looking perfectly fine. Widgets haven't reloaded even once, let alone the launcher. Multitasking works, even larger apps weren't killed (like reddit news, which tends to use quite a bit of ram after scrolling for a bit).
So I don't know whether it's fixed, but at the very least this is a fully-stock-option that works perfectly fine (for me), even though I'm rooted and use XPosed that is by no means necessary.
I also have the German OTA update. Everything works fine. As for the memory leak for me that is a thing of the past, was really bad in 4.4.4 and I had the same version as the above poster. Everything stopped in the background, in point of fact there was no multitasking. With 5.0.2 I can play music run a navigation app, surf the net no problem and still see over 400Mbyte free ram in setting all without the dreaded app has stopped working or seeing apps restarting.
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I also have the German OTA update. Everything works fine. As for the memory leak for me that is a thing of the past, was really bad in 4.4.4 and I had the same version as the above poster. Everything stopped in the background, in point of fact there was no multitasking. With 5.0.2 I can play music run a navigation app, surf the net no problem and still see over 400Mbyte free ram in setting all without the dreaded app has stopped working or seeing apps restarting.
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4.4.4 didn't have a memory leak, just high minfree values I think.
Lollipop does have a memory leak (and thats mostly googles fault) and the memory management is very buggy when compared to kitkat. The memory leak doesn't show instantly, it shows after some time and you can just reboot the phone to "solve the problem".
If you want a really good rom for multitasking I recommend CM 11 or some rom based on it.
4.4.4 definitely has some serious issues on the MotoG, it was not just the min free values. I had tuned those (basically tried everything), but it made no real difference. So far, LP feels like it's a different phone.
I agree. I can't understand how people would go back to KitKat after trying lollipop. Chrome and other apps still redraw when multitasking though. :\
Let's see if 5.1 fixes that.
BTW: does anyone get graphic glitches in Tapatalk and chrome? Sometimes whole areas of the screen turn glitchy, until I switch to another app or press the back key. (Glitchy= pixels in all colours, like an overheated GPU on a PC would produce.)
I know that there was a memory leak issue with 5.02 but it's apparently fixed before the fw was deployed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/clarification-xperia-lollipop-fix-t3087240
So that doesn't help explain my issue. Very often, when I have any combination of Spotify + Google Maps, Spotify + Chrome, Chrome + Google Maps, etc open, the app that's in the background will just flat out close. It's stupidly annoying while driving when my music just dies, or when my navigation disappears and I miss my turns because I don't hear any audible alerts. The issue goes away after a fresh restart, and will come back usually within a day or two.
I did not have this issue on 4.4.4.
My free ram hovers around 500-600MB at all times.
RAM status today
RAM Status after fresh restart
I absolutely hate why nothing can be properly backgrounded like in iOS. The moment I press the home button or switch apps, all my open tabs in Chrome have to be reloaded. Filling out forms in a Chrome tab while referencing another app is almost impossible... This was actually an issue on 4.4.4 as well as 5.02. I have not found any way to fix this, no matter how many times I restart my phone. I don't think my old Galaxy S3 had this problem...
Why does Android make us work so hard for a properly working phone, if we can even have that at all? As a consumer I should not have to go through 7 levels of technical hell to make a phone work properly. This isn't Linux.
Sorry for the rant. Anyone know what I can do to fix this? Everyone says RAM clearing apps are bad. So that's not an option right?
.726 has this problem and as far as I can recall it was pretty serious. Fortunately in .26 the problem has been solved. It's about memory management in lollipop being poor rather than memory leak.
.26 hasn't been released for D5803 USA right? I don't see it in the firmware thread
Still doesn't explain the Chrome issue. Whenever anything is backgrounded (not closed) in Chrome, all my tabs have to be reloaded. Most of the time now, even just switching from one tab to the next within Chrome while it's open forces a refresh of the tab. WTF
I never had any memory leak issues with any of the firmwares. Try to turn off Stamina mode just to see if it is affecting (I have it off, and queue background data off as well). Make sure also you have not enabled Developer Options and checked the setting 'Don't keep activities' or some other setting that limit the amount of process you can have in the background.
Dev options are not enabled. And stamina only kicks in at 50% battery. I could turn off que data but does that have anything to do with RAM?
I just called Xperia tech support and they suggested I do this:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...uctions-using-Pc-Companion-Win-or/td-p/249946
Has anyone done this and fixed the issue?
I am apparently not the only one who has had this problem:
https://www.reddit.com/r/SonyXperia/comments/356f80/z3c_502_stock_memory_leak_or_something_else/
There's an Xposed module called App Settings that lets you force the OS to keep stuff resident in memory. Because it's an Xposed module, I have no idea if it's compatible with LP or not. Also, there's a point where you can run out of memory and experience involuntary restarts if you keep too many apps resident. Still, it's worth trying, imo.
I was told that the memory leak wouldn't be fixed until 5.1 or even 5.1.1
726 did indeed have this problem. i used the xposed module for the memoryleak fix and it did indeed work...phone was much faster.
People are saying sony phones do not have the leak but the leak affects each phone in slightly different ways.
I the new .28 USA firmware running on my phone now and it is working rather well. granted i still have the lollipop memory fix module activated but i will do some testing with it off as well.
Nope, the problem is not solved in any lollipop firmware, atleast for me. I tried all the latest, reflash and wiped all (Included Internal Data) and the problem still here. Is Ridiculous how with 2GB RAM I can´t have atleast 4 apps opened without the preocupation of they get killed for itself. I remember with my Nexus 7 Tablet in Android 4.3 had a looot of apps opened and no one get killed itself, it was a great multitask experience that I can't get yet in Xperia Z3 Compact. I tried edit minfree values, uninstall apps, change firmwares, edit services.jar, install tweaks, edit my build.prop, etc. Also I noticed with the Task Manager of System Tuner app that "/system/bin/mediaserver" is always eating more than 60mb of Ram, this is since kitkat and continues to happen in Lollipop, after of some hours, this same process can take up to 160 - 200 mb of RAM!!! The worst thing is that in other devices this process don't seems to take a lot of Ram as in Z3 Compact did. Idk, it would be good that we can improve multitask in this device.
I compared the /system/bin/mediaserver usage with a Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini and it only takes 5 mb of RAM while in Xperia Z3 Compact it always start eating 50 mb of RAM and it increases up to 160 - 200 mb in some hours. You can see my proofs here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60569610&postcount=9
So Idk what to do now, I hear that the only good devices that take importance in multitasking are HTC M9 (M8 and M7 too) and the Asus Zenphone because they merged their own patches to ART to improve a lot how multitasking is managed in android. I think sony do their devices to kill apps very agressive, so in this way they can presume that his device is more smooth than others but useless for multitasking. Weird...
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Nope, the problem is not solved in any lollipop firmware, atleast for me. I tried all the latest, reflash and wiped all (Included Internal Data) and the problem still here. Is Ridiculous how with 2GB RAM I can´t have atleast 4 apps opened without the preocupation of they get killed for itself. I remember with my Nexus 7 Tablet in Android 4.3 had a looot of apps opened and no one get killed itself, it was a great multitask experience that I can't get yet in Xperia Z3 Compact. I tried edit minfree values, uninstall apps, change firmwares, edit services.jar, install tweaks, edit my build.prop, etc. Also I noticed with the Task Manager of System Tuner app that "/system/bin/mediaserver" is always eating more than 60mb of Ram, this is since kitkat and continues to happen in Lollipop, after of some hours, this same process can take up to 160 - 200 mb of RAM!!! The worst thing is that in other devices this process don't seems to take a lot of Ram as in Z3 Compact did. Idk, it would be good that we can improve multitask in this device.
I compared the /system/bin/mediaserver usage with a Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini and it only takes 5 mb of RAM while in Xperia Z3 Compact it always start eating 50 mb of RAM and it increases up to 160 - 200 mb in some hours. You can see my proofs here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60569610&postcount=9
So Idk what to do now, I hear that the only good devices that take importance in multitasking are HTC M9 (M8 and M7 too) and the Asus Zenphone because they merged their own patches to ART to improve a lot how multitasking is managed in android. I think sony do their devices to kill apps very agressive, so in this way they can presume that his device is more smooth than others but useless for multitasking. Weird...
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Hmmm, idk. My GPE m8 on 5.1 is experiencing these same symptoms. Super annoying to have my music cut out in the middle of a workout. ?
I play with my food
I referring to HTC M7, M8 and M9 with Sense, because they get own HTC patches. Well, is what I hear, and also I see some tests in YouTube and the multitask is very good.
jerflash said:
726 did indeed have this problem. i used the xposed module for the memoryleak fix and it did indeed work...phone was much faster.
People are saying sony phones do not have the leak but the leak affects each phone in slightly different ways.
I the new .28 USA firmware running on my phone now and it is working rather well. granted i still have the lollipop memory fix module activated but i will do some testing with it off as well.
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Any feedback on how .28 is running compared to .726 with the xposed fix?
Like many, I uninstalled the fix after I read the thread pointing out that having it active was pointless as Sony had already fixed the memory leak themselves, but after reading your reply, I decided to reinstall and sure enough, my phone does seem snappier. Having read the changelog for .28, it didn't seem worth upgrading unless performance was noticeably better.
I will tell you im enjoying .28 with the fix running. There are enough fixes in there to make it worth it i think
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No issues on 23.1.A.0.726 here, I have averagely 250 MB more free RAM on Lollipop than on Kitkat, with all the same apps installed. :good:
Guys, the problem is not how many ram do you have, the problem is if you can multitask some apps without someone get killed. I can multitask within 2 or 3 apps sometimes, but I can't get more than that without someone gets killed...
It was to be expected that Lollipop in Sony devices would be problematic. For the time being, I prefer to stay in KitKat and then make the jump to 5.0.2.
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It was to be expected that Lollipop in Sony devices would be problematic. For the time being, I prefer to stay in KitKat and then make the jump to 5.0.2.
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Lollipop on Xperia started off at 5.0.2
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Lollipop on Xperia started off at 5.0.2
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And nobody said otherwise. I said that I prefer staying in KitKat until the Lollipop update is better to making worth the jump
I have a N6 purchased Dec 2015 new from Amazon. The only mods, if you can call it that is, I have unlocked the boot loader. I am currently running N6F26Y sideloaded via ADB.
The phone was great when I first got it but now after about a day or so of usage it becomes slow and sluggish and unresponsive I have to restart it to use it. I have done a factory reset a couple of times which gets it back to normal for a week or so and then the problem recurs. Occasionally I will delete the cache which also helps. Snapchat is one of the worse apps - crashes the phone regularly and is a very slow app.
Also the camera can get very slow often taking seconds to take one photo.
I love the phone but it's becoming unusable now. The contrast between this and a new phone (I have purchased a Moto Z) is like night and day. The Moto Z runs instantly, has no lag and is a nice phone. But what I like about the N6 is the large screen which makes it great for videos etc.
Short of perhaps flashing some custom ROM is there anything I could be doing?
I'd recommend flashing a rom like pure nexus, super stable that should fix your problem, otherwise you've done all you can and is the easiest fix
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lchiu7 said:
I have a N6 purchased Dec 2015 new from Amazon. The only mods, if you can call it that is, I have unlocked the boot loader. I am currently running N6F26Y sideloaded via ADB.
The phone was great when I first got it but now after about a day or so of usage it becomes slow and sluggish and unresponsive I have to restart it to use it. I have done a factory reset a couple of times which gets it back to normal for a week or so and then the problem recurs. Occasionally I will delete the cache which also helps. Snapchat is one of the worse apps - crashes the phone regularly and is a very slow app.
Also the camera can get very slow often taking seconds to take one photo.
I love the phone but it's becoming unusable now. The contrast between this and a new phone (I have purchased a Moto Z) is like night and day. The Moto Z runs instantly, has no lag and is a nice phone. But what I like about the N6 is the large screen which makes it great for videos etc.
Short of perhaps flashing some custom ROM is there anything I could be doing?
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Hello,
It seems like some apps are really slowing down your phone. I use my N6 at home for web browsing mostly as I have a Pixel XL now. Just like you I love the screen size.
The camera has always been slow fore, because of the time it takes to focus...
Did you try using your phone a few days without Snapchat installed? Maybe you also have other misbehaving apps installed.
Uninstall Snapchat and other apps and start from here. Reinstall one per one with a few days interval. See if the issue still occurs.
Installing a custom ROM + kernel will likely speed up things a little bit. I second @Dugaldrob with Pure Nexus and I'd suggest ElementalX kernel on top. Running this combo on N6, N6P and Pixel XL and they work flawlessly.
I don't believe installing a custom ROM alone will fix your issue though. Stock ROM shouldn't cause the phone to slow down to the point you need to reboot to use it.
Finding the culprit will...
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Hello,
It seems like some apps are really slowing down your phone. I use my N6 at home for web browsing mostly as I have a Pixel XL now. Just like you I love the screen size.
The camera has always been slow fore, because of the time it takes to focus...
Did you try using your phone a few days without Snapchat installed? Maybe you also have other misbehaving apps installed.
Uninstall Snapchat and other apps and start from here. Reinstall one per one with a few days interval. See if the issue still occurs.
Installing a custom ROM + kernel will likely speed up things a little bit. I second @Dugaldrob with Pure Nexus and I'd suggest ElementalX kernel on top. Running this combo on N6, N6P and Pixel XL and they work flawlessly.
I don't believe installing a custom ROM alone will fix your issue though. Stock ROM shouldn't cause the phone to slow down to the point you need to reboot to use it.
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Thanks
First step is to remove Snapchat. I rarely use the app and only because my daughter sends stuff on it. I am going to tell her to send me stuff via another method
If that doesn't work then it's a new ROM. I have performed ROM installs before but have never flashed a new kernel on a phone before so that will be a new experience. Hopefully I won't brick the phone
lchiu7 said:
Thanks
First step is to remove Snapchat. I rarely use the app and only because my daughter sends stuff on it. I am going to tell her to send me stuff via another method
If that doesn't work then it's a new ROM. I have performed ROM installs before but have never flashed a new kernel on a phone before so that will be a new experience. Hopefully I won't brick the phone
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Hello,
Don't worry, it's really easy. Also, if you are lost, there must be a ton of tutorials in general section. If you are lost yet, just ask and someone will point you in the right direction...
Good luck...
lchiu7 said:
I have a N6 purchased Dec 2015 new from Amazon. The only mods, if you can call it that is, I have unlocked the boot loader. I am currently running N6F26Y sideloaded via ADB.
The phone was great when I first got it but now after about a day or so of usage it becomes slow and sluggish and unresponsive I have to restart it to use it. I have done a factory reset a couple of times which gets it back to normal for a week or so and then the problem recurs. Occasionally I will delete the cache which also helps. Snapchat is one of the worse apps - crashes the phone regularly and is a very slow app.
Also the camera can get very slow often taking seconds to take one photo.
I love the phone but it's becoming unusable now. The contrast between this and a new phone (I have purchased a Moto Z) is like night and day. The Moto Z runs instantly, has no lag and is a nice phone. But what I like about the N6 is the large screen which makes it great for videos etc.
Short of perhaps flashing some custom ROM is there anything I could be doing?
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I've been running Pure Nexus and wanted to let peeps know I put Nitrogen on and man it's so smooth, my wifi tether is back and I went to sleep last night with 50% battery still. When I installed it I opted for the nano gapps I think so like 175mb for minimal apps and maybe that's why it's running so efficient. Maybe I could have re-installed Pure Nexus with a clean install and it would have gotten better but it was a good time to try something else. Also when Nitrogen got an update I was notified just like stock and it downloaded. I didn't even know these could do that. Anyways give it a try and you might just switch back. I was looking into new phones but if it keeps working so smooth with battery longer than a day then I'm fine for now.
Snap chat is not that big of an issue. What I have found to cause the device to slow down is normally almost full device storage and a crappy cache release code in apps. Some apps don't release their cache properly. So it causes lag. This is why a reboot seems to fix it.
While a custom rom may fix this issue it is not the solution. The proper solution is to find what is causing it and fix/repair/ditch it.
Worst offenders for crappy code in my thoughts. Other will disagree with one on this list I am sure. So don't bother. I know people swear by it. It runs like crap for me at times and causes my whole device to lag until I close it out.
1 Facebook
2 FB messenger
3 Google Chrome ( don't do it lol)
4 whatsapp
5 Hangouts
Mind you this is just a list on my usage. It may very per user and even device (considering different hardware)
zelendel said:
... It runs like crap for me at times and causes my whole device to lag until I close it out.
1 Facebook
2 FB messenger
3 Google Chrome ( don't do it lol)
4 whatsapp
5 Hangouts
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I can confirm this, because I've removed these apps (-whatsapp) and also decrypted the data partition...
My N6 is fast.
Maybe a lite stock ROM and an other kernel is a good start.
NLBeev said:
I can confirm this, because I've removed these apps (-whatsapp) and also decrypted the data partition...
My N6 is fast.
Maybe a lite stock ROM and an other kernel is a good start.
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Currently I have FB, FB messenger, and Chrome but when I installed gapps I chose a super lite install so tons of bloat and google apps were not installed and my battery has gone way up and it's so smooth. I'm sure even when we don't use apps they're always doing something in the background. I bet you're right and a stock lite ROM would be good too with the minimal bs apps.
zelendel said:
Snap chat is not that big of an issue. What I have found to cause the device to slow down is normally almost full device storage and a crappy cache release code in apps. Some apps don't release their cache properly. So it causes lag. This is why a reboot seems to fix it.
While a custom rom may fix this issue it is not the solution. The proper solution is to find what is causing it and fix/repair/ditch it.
Worst offenders for crappy code in my thoughts. Other will disagree with one on this list I am sure. So don't bother. I know people swear by it. It runs like crap for me at times and causes my whole device to lag until I close it out.
1 Facebook
2 FB messenger
3 Google Chrome ( don't do it lol)
4 whatsapp
5 Hangouts
Mind you this is just a list on my usage. It may very per user and even device (considering different hardware)
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Thanks for the advice. Of the list of apps above I have only Chrome and Hangouts. I really can't see replacing either of them.
I also should have pointed out that the phone locks up randomly requiring a hard reset. I wonder if an errant app could cause that or I have some RAM problem. Certainly on a PC bad RAM can use in Windows a blue screen or something but perhaps Android isn't so forgiving?
lchiu7 said:
Thanks for the advice. Of the list of apps above I have only Chrome and Hangouts. I really can't see replacing either of them.
I also should have pointed out that the phone locks up randomly requiring a hard reset. I wonder if an errant app could cause that or I have some RAM problem. Certainly on a PC bad RAM can use in Windows a blue screen or something but perhaps Android isn't so forgiving?
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I would flash TWRP, flash supersu in TWRP to root, make a complete backup in twrp, then remove whatever Google apps you're not using with a system app removal app. Getting some of that bloat off the device should help. If it's still laggy, then look into a custom ROM. I run Tesla on my Nexus 6 with none of the issues you're having. I don't decrypt it either
Running abdroid 7.1 here. I dont get any slowdowns, at leas until the battery doesnt drop below 50 and 25 percent.
Im running a custom kernel and my phone is rooted. Everything else is stock.
Can you flash a custom kernel and presumably TWRP without wiping the phone? If so then might try that before a custom ROM
lchiu7 said:
Can you flash a custom kernel and presumably TWRP without wiping the phone? If so then might try that before a custom ROM
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Hello,
Since your bootloader is unlocked, flash TWRP and install the kernel, no problem.
Might give you a slight boost at first sight, but your device will likely slow down over time anyway...
Cheers...
I'm on 7.0 with the April SP. I have dozens of apps installed, including Hangouts. I use Firefox for browsing, I like it better than chrome (and you can install an ad blocker).
My camera slows down when the battery is under 40%, and the whole device slows dramatically, though not unusable, at or below 5%. But otherwise, no issues what so ever.
One solution that I have not seen suggested here is resetting the device and NOT taking the Google account backup of all your apps. I would suggest making a completely clean install of the factory rom you have and installing one or two apps at a time, most important to you first. And do this for a few days/weeks until you find the app that's misbehaving.
Although there are general bad players out there, this bad app could be unique to your device. Just because all devices of the same model have the same specs and components, doesn't mean that there isn't variability in parts quality.
I would do this before trying any new roms or kernels. Find the true problem first.
Good luck!
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I had another idea: Go into your battery stats and network stats and storage stats and see if any app seems to be using too much of any, or all of the 3. This may get you the answer more quickly.