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[Q] How to do a Nandroid backup on a stock (but rooted) kernel?

Hi there
I am currently on a newly installed JVU that was pre-rooted by [Ramad], so I am actually on a stock kernel. I intend to keep it this way without any custom kernel or rom.
Now I would like to make a Nandroid backup of my phone but I can't do it with my default recovery menu that is without CWM.
Question is, is there any way for me to install CWM on top of the stock kernel so that I can do a backup from recovery? I do not wish to install a custom kernel just for access to CWM. Or is there an app that I can use to simply do a Nandroid backup without needing CWM at all?
PS: I tried using ROM Manager to do a Nandroid, but it would simply reboot my phone to recovery.

Anyone please?

It's my understanding that you need to flash a kernel that has CWM built into it.
CF-Root and Semaphore are the most common ones for this.

did you try the CWM Recovery App, couldn't remember where it is on xda but a search would help

Fairly new to all of this myself but I'm not really sure you need to do a Nandroid back up if you don't plan to run anything other than the stock ROM & kernel.
This type of backup is really for those installing custom roms & kernels etc.
It is my understanding that to run CWM you needed to be rooted (could be wrong). CF-Root is basically a rooted stock kernel so if you wish to do a Nandroid back flash CF-Root that way you can have CWM.
If you are rooted you can use Rom Manager to install CWM. Then boot into recovery (power button, volume up & home button) and do everything within CWM.
Hope that helps.

Black Rose said:
It's my understanding that you need to flash a kernel that has CWM built into it.
CF-Root and Semaphore are the most common ones for this.
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Hi
I do know the popular ones but I wish to remain at stock as I will be passing the phone to my mum soon.

wooptarik said:
did you try the CWM Recovery App, couldn't remember where it is on xda but a search would help
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I did a quick search but none of the hits is actually what I'm looking for?

scubadude said:
Fairly new to all of this myself but I'm not really sure you need to do a Nandroid back up if you don't plan to run anything other than the stock ROM & kernel.
This type of backup is really for those installing custom roms & kernels etc.
It is my understanding that to run CWM you needed to be rooted (could be wrong). CF-Root is basically a rooted stock kernel so if you wish to do a Nandroid back flash CF-Root that way you can have CWM.
If you are rooted you can use Rom Manager to install CWM. Then boot into recovery (power button, volume up & home button) and do everything within CWM.
Hope that helps.
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Actually I am already rooted but I am on a stock kernel without CWM. As for Rom Manager, I have mentioned that it doesn't work. Seems like it requires a CWM enabled kernel for it to work.
I want to do a Nandroid backup now as I will be handing over my phone to my mum in afew months time. And I am pretty sure I'll make changes to the phone in the meantime. So I would like to have a Nandroid that I can restore to before I pass it over.
As for CF-root, I'll check it out. Thanks for the suggestion.

Same problem here- rooted with stock, and won't go on installing a new ROM before being able to save nand backup...
I think the problem of ROM manager not installing recovery is related to stock recovery version that needs downgrading from 3e to 2e- I reckon to have seen some thread about it here.
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Flash CF-Root.

[Q] Cannot find matching CF-root

Hey everyone, my phone is running 2.3.5 of Android and it is branded to Orange. My build number (and kernel version) is BVJVC. I cannot find the right cf root for me. There doesnt seem to be any for JVC. Can anyone help?

TarnWilliamson said:
Hey everyone, my phone is running 2.3.5 of Android and it is branded to Orange. My build number (and kernel version) is BVJVC. I cannot find the right cf root for me. There doesnt seem to be any for JVC. Can anyone help?
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Are you planning on rooting to then flash a custom rom or do you just need root access?
If you are planning on changing roms then just flash a pre rooted firmware or one that has a root solution available.

What do you want cf-root for? If you want root to you can flash a custom ROM it doesn't really matter which one you use. If you want it to run you current stock ROM with root then it is better to run the correct one. I cannot find that one either. Good luck.
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There's no cf-root for JVC. I've only found a french forum with a very tricky way to root... far easier to flash another ROM that has cf-root. But come on, let's have a little more fun... ICS!

I want to change rom. Can I just flash any rom compatible with galaxy s i9000 or do you have to have compatible kernels? I have seen tutorials where it says to flash to something specific before flashing to the final one. If it's possible can someone send me a link to a custom pre-rooted rom which I can flash straight away onto my phone?
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most of the roms come with a kernel. You can then flash other kernels but these do need to be comparable. I have team oceans 4.2 for example. This comes with its own kernel but I have installed semaphore 0.9.1 which sheet a lot of testing has been the best fit for my use. Hope that makes sense. If you have something particular inn mind let us know and we can help more
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TarnWilliamson said:
I want to change rom. Can I just flash any rom compatible with galaxy s i9000 or do you have to have compatible kernels? I have seen tutorials where it says to flash to something specific before flashing to the final one. If it's possible can someone send me a link to a custom pre-rooted rom which I can flash straight away onto my phone?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533327.
This is a stock firmware and the Odin 512.pit that I use when going back to stock and root is easily applied. It is a good idea to save these on your computer if (or when) things go wrong .

Can I just flash a rom with its custom kernel over my orange stock rom and it's kernel? They don't have to be similar in any way? Also, so I don't need root access to flash a custom rom.
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You will need root access to flash custom roms as most have to be flashed by cwm(which you will get when you root your phone)

This brings me back to my original problem, people told me to flash a rom with compatible CF-root, but to flash i need to root? So i am stuck in a little circle?
Or does this only apply to custom roms and not flashing stock roms?

You flash Cf-root with Odin. This gives you root. You then flash custom ROM through recovery on your phone. As mentioned above if you want root to flash custom ROM then you need root it does not really matter which cf-root you use. Just follow instructions in Cf-root thread then follow instructions from ROM thread you want to flash.
If you want to use stock ROM with cf-root then it needs to be compatible.
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CF-Root info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788108
From thread:
Instructions (long)
- Follow these instructions to the letter. Do not touch any buttons or checkboxes that are not listed below to touch!
- Unzip the attached CF-Root-xxx-vX.X.zip
- (USB) Disconnect your phone from your computer
- Start ODIN
- Click the PDA button, and select CF-Root-xxx-vX.X.tar
- Put your phone in download mode
- (USB) Connect the phone to your computer
- Make sure repartition is NOT checked
- Click the START button
- Wait for the phone to reboot
- Done (if it took you more than 30 seconds, you need practise!)
Help! I don't know which file to pick! The filenames confuse me!
First thing: don't panic! It's all rather easy, and you won't easily do something bad! I am personally attentive to use the exact same version as the ROM I am running, but it's not that important.
First, go to Settings -> About phone -> Build number. It should say something like FROYO.xxJPy. It's primarily the JPy that we are interested in. Try to match that with a download link available in this (and the next few) posts. Some of the downloads dont just have JPy file name format, but are called xx_xxx_JPy.
Find the one that is closest to yours, if yours is not present, and flash that one.
If you are just installing CF-Root to flash a custom ROM like Darky, make sure you have ROM Manager already installed, ClockworkMod flashed, then simply install the latest CF-Root, reboot once normally, then reboot in recovery and run the Darky update.zip. In this case it does NOT need to be a near match at all!
Before you start it is a good idea to download your stock rom or another one for your phone from here. http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/?page=3&t=1&o=1&m=GT-I9000&r=-1#modelsa Then where it says region click your country.
I recommend getting everything you need before you start. So make sure you Odin, a 512 pit file & your stock rom with the PDA, Phone & CSC files. There are plenty instructions for getting back to stock if you search.
Next get the ROM you want & the kernel you want.
Now that you have everything you are ready to go.
My process is as follows.
1. Remove SD Card, some say to remove sim but I have never done this.
2. Turn on phone & turn on USB debugging.
3. Connect phone to usb & copy everything on my internal sd card onto my pc. (I have a samsung folder & create a folder with the date and put everything in there - just in case)
4. (USB) Disconnect your phone from your computer
5. shut down phone.
6. Follow cf-root thread instructions.
7. Unzip the attached CF-Root-xxx-vX.X.zip
8. Start ODIN
9. Click the PDA button, and select CF-Root-xxx-vX.X.tar
10. Put your phone in download mode (power on, volume down, home button)
11. (USB) Connect the phone to your computer
12. Make sure repartition is NOT checked
13. Click the START button
14. Wait for the phone to reboot
15. Done (if it took you more than 30 seconds, you need practise!)
Now you have root & cf-root. Restart phone. Next step is generally as follows.
1. Start phone.
2. Connect phone to pc.
3. copy files you wish to flash onto root of internal sd card. in my case team icssgs 4.2 & semaphore 0.9.1
4. (USB) Disconnect your phone from your computer
5. restart phone into recovery.
NB. Make sure to do a backup at this point and ensure you have a copy of your efs folder somewhere!!! - if for some reason your IMEI number is corrupted you will need this
6. factory reset & clear cache
7. advanced button -> clear dalvik cache.
8. back & choose install zip from sd card
9. choose zip from sd card.
10 .select the zip file (in my case team icssgs 4.2)
11. Choose yes- install... zip name
12. repeat steps 8-11 and select semaphore kernel.
13. factory reset & clear cache
14. advanced button -> clear dalvik cache.
15. reboot phone. Reboot can sometime take a while. sometimes you may need to do this twice.
Semaphore: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1468795
Team ICSSGS: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1398223
If no luck then reinstall stock rom using odin making sure to use all three files & pit file with repartition checked.
Please note I am still fairly new at this so it may not be perfect & you should always rather follow instructions from the thread of the ROM you wish to flash
Hopefully that's it. Don't think I left anything out.

TarnWilliamson said:
This brings me back to my original problem, people told me to flash a rom with compatible CF-root, but to flash i need to root? So i am stuck in a little circle?
Or does this only apply to custom roms and not flashing stock roms?
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Ok, let's clear things up a little. Every rom has its own kernel, let's say the default kernel of that ROM. There are stock Roms, which are those official of Samsung. Those come with its own kernel, but not rooted.
Now: there are some stock roms, of which some guys have managed to modify its kernel just to be able to have root access, and to have a modified version of the recovery: ClockWorkMod recovery.
There are other kernels, though. Kernels that people develope to improve those default kernels that come with stock kernels. But improve performance comes with (perhaps) less stability (actually that's not completely true, as cooked kernels also improve stability, and are in general far better than stock ones). What is true is that not every cooked kernel works with every rom, you have to make sure it works with what you want.
You definitely don't need to have root access to flash, but you do in order to make those highly important security backups! You can have root without flashing kernel.
Now, what are those roms that flash over other roms...? Generally cooked roms are stock roms modified to improve them. But they still use a lot of the stock roms system, that's why cooked roms have to be flash only over that rom they are based on. You still don't need to be root to flash those roms, but generally you do need ClockWorkMod recovery, that's why you need to flash cf-root kernel prior flashing a cooked rom. Or perhaps the cooked rom do not come with a modified/rooted kernel and you still needs to change the kernel (but usually they already come with a rooted kernel)
Hope that helps you even a little to know what do you want to do!

Thanks for the help everyone. I am going to flash an unbranded stock rom to get out of this orange rom. Would this tutorial work to debrand my phone?
http://droidangel.blogspot.com/2012/01/i9000xxjvu-android-236-upgrade-for.html?m=1
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Tutorial is fine...
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[Q] How to get to Recovery

So i bought this rooted int'l note off of craigslist and it had a darkynote rom on it. I tried the power+home+vol down but it just goes to download mode even if its not connected to the pc. I went into Rom Manager and hit reboot into recovery and it worked and i was able to flash the RoMow ICS rom and now it wont let me boot into recovery from there. I tried market apps to boot, but it says that my phone is not rooted. I gave Super user permissions and everything. Last thing i tried was rooting again using the method outlined in the development thread, but it got stuck and i figure that it is because i am running ICS and not gingerbread.
Can anyone give me some help on if i am trying to boot into recovery the right way or if you have a solution?
Thanks alot

Try power button, home and volume up.
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Or use the Terminal application and type;
reboot recovery
Or, plug it into a PC with the SDK installed and type;
adb reboot recovery
Or, what Stoney said.

Thanks! The vol up+Home+Power worked.
Now im having another issue though:
I tried backing up and it got stuck when it was almost done,
same with flashing any roms and restoring from a backup... Any ideas, or should post a new thread?

Look, stop doing anything else with your RoMow ICS, because you didn't install it properly, and have a partial root as a consequence. This is a known issue: you have a semi-functional rom right now, and doing a backup of it is of no use to you.
Do the following:
1. download AbyssNote 3.9 kernel from HERE | MIRROR. It's a flashable zip.
2. put this zip on your SD Card (take out your SD card and paste the zip from your PC via a card reader if no other option is possible)
3. power off your phone
4. boot into recovery (Volume up + Home + Power)
5. chose 'install zip from SD Card'
6. navigate to your Abyss kernel zip and flash it
7. go back to the Recovery start menu
8. go to advanced/reboot recovery <--- this will reboot the phone directly to recovery
9. you will discover that you now have Hyperdroid Redpill Recovery - it comes with the Abyss kernel - it's pretty much the same thing as CWMR
10. wipe cache, dalvik, do your factory reset
11. flash any GB rom you fancy or do a GB restore if you have one

thanks so much fro your help. I had no idea that i had a partial root. I will try this when i get home. Will i have to do this with every rom i flash (flash rom then kernal) or is it just this rom?

Alright so i followed the steps and i got the red recovery and flashed the romow rom again. I went back to recovery to flash the mms fix and it went back to the blue clockworkmod recovery and once again it wont let me flash anything

kkg720 said:
Alright so i followed the steps and i got the red recovery and flashed the romow rom again. I went back to recovery to flash the mms fix and it went back to the blue clockworkmod recovery and once again it wont let me flash anything
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I think said
11. flash any GB rom you fancy or do a GB restore if you have one
didn't I? Emphasis was on GB rom, as in Gingerbread, not ICS.
Every time you want to flash your first ICS rom, you must start from a gingerbread one.
It's no good trying to flash ICS over a botched ICS, it will get you nowhere.

chasmodo said:
I think said
11. flash any GB rom you fancy or do a GB restore if you have one
didn't I? Emphasis was on GB rom, as in Gingerbread, not ICS.
Every time you want to flash your first ICS rom, you must start from a gingerbread one.
It's no good trying to flash ICS over a botched ICS, it will get you nowhere.
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Thanks alot. I reread the post last night and flash the darkynote rom, but the same thing happened with the recovery switching back.
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kkg720 said:
Thanks alot. I reread the post last night and flash the darkynote rom, but the same thing happened with the recovery switching back.
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obviously, there are steps you are not following quite well. the instructions above were quite very specific.
if i were you, i'd reinstall abyss 3.9, and reinstall a stock, rootable rom and start from scratch. or stick with stock.

Super-bricked galaxy note

I was on 4.0.3. Don't remember the kernel tho. But I'm sure that it was an unsafe kernel.
This is what I did:
1. Made a nandroid backup using CWMRecovery
2. Installed Beats Audio Installer from Play Store
3. Didn't like it. Tried to restore to the nandroid backup as it had no uninstall option.
4. Phone restarted and bricked.
Now whenever I try to flash stock GB/ICS, Odin stucks at FACTORYFS
Any help?

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I was on 4.0.3. Don't remember the kernel tho. But I'm sure that it was an unsafe kernel.
This is what I did:
1. Made a nandroid backup using CWMRecovery
2. Installed Beats Audio Installer from Play Store
3. Didn't like it. Tried to restore to the nandroid backup as it had no uninstall option.
4. Phone restarted and bricked.
Now whenever I try to flash stock GB/ICS, Odin stucks at FACTORYFS
Any help?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661590
Check it
Swyped From My Flavoured Juicy AOKP JB.

I don't getting it, which unsafe kernel do have option to Nandroid backup / restore.
Do you remember you have wipe anything before this?
Can you post full log what you getting while flashing
Just use different usb port and close anti virus, firewall, kies off.
Before doing this once try to flash hydracore kernel with recovery , if successfully flashed then wipe cache and data
If you get sign verified error flash using pc odin.
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Ya.. Unsafe kernel and cwm.. Hmmm.
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In unsafe stock kernel there is no option for backup/restore.. so what is the kernel you are talking about... and did you by any chance wipe using the stock kernel

Maybe cf root kernel. As far as i know nandroid restore is not safe on it coz that process wipes too
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Nandoid backup/Restore is safe on Cf root, just flashin a zip that contains bad script is risky on Cf root kernel.
The only possibilites is old Cf root kernel (v5.3/5), But that caries big title in RED that those kernel are not safe, its bad luck if OP have used that.

kzshantonu said:
I was on 4.0.3. Don't remember the kernel tho. But I'm sure that it was an unsafe kernel.
This is what I did:
1. Made a nandroid backup using CWMRecovery
2. Installed Beats Audio Installer from Play Store
3. Didn't like it. Tried to restore to the nandroid backup as it had no uninstall option.
4. Phone restarted and bricked.
Now whenever I try to flash stock GB/ICS, Odin stucks at FACTORYFS
Any help?
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Hey, not sure if you have this fixed now? Sounds to me as if you need to start from a safe kernel THEN flash your ROM. Odin will probably give you a Yellow Triangle but I'll deal with that too. There probably isn't a quick way to this but I would try the following. It's lengthy, but having pulled my Note back from the numerous bricks I know it works -
- search and download the Abyss 4.2 kernel TAR file to your pc
- put Note into Download mode
- connect to Odin via pc and flash Abyss 4.2 TAR. Note will reboot
- this should give you access to Recovery (and on a SAFE kernel)
- flash your ROM (if you prefer Stock then I suggest Chrack LRQ - its awesome! By far the best Stock based ROM in my humble opinion)
- your phone should now boot, but with a yellow triangle on the boot screen
- download Chainfire's Triangle Away app from Play Store (or get the APK free from XDA)
- download Chainfire kernel from Chasmodo's Kernel Repository
- flash the kernel and reboot
- now run the Triangle Away app, this removes the triangle at boot
- to remove apps, get Toolbox (or pay for Pro version) by JRummy from the Store. its my personal favorite for removal / back up / restoring apps.
I hope this works, please let me know how you get on.

[Q] CWM Recovery is not booting

Hi
I have here a Galaxy Mini running stock Froyo 2.2.1 without an USB-cable.
My goal is to flash CM 9.
I rooted the phone with an update.zip containing Superuser.apk and the su binary. (I needed it for Titanium Backup)
I want to install CWM too but I can not use Odin (no USB cable). I downloaded CWM Touch 5.2.0.8 from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439751, named the file update.zip and flashed it with the stock recovery tool. - This seemed to be sucessful.
But now the devie is stuck at the "Samsung" logo everytime I try to boot into recovery. Booting the normal Android works fine.
Is there a way to flash CWM without using Odin now? (probably using linux "dd")
I would like to have CWM before I flash CM9 beacuse I want to create a full backup first.
Edit: Ok...I might have overlooked that this CWM is for Gingerbread.
Thanks

flashing through stock recovery may not work
you have to use odin to flash the recovery
one more thing is that you cannot backup stock rom
you must upgrade to gb to flash cm9 (bootloader incompatibility)

lfrst05 said:
Hi
I have here a Galaxy Mini running stock Froyo 2.2.1 without an USB-cable.
My goal is to flash CM 9.
I rooted the phone with an update.zip containing Superuser.apk and the su binary. (I needed it for Titanium Backup)
I want to install CWM too but I can not use Odin (no USB cable). I downloaded CWM Touch 5.2.0.8 from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439751, named the file update.zip and flashed it with the stock recovery tool. - This seemed to be sucessful.
But now the devie is stuck at the "Samsung" logo everytime I try to boot into recovery. Booting the normal Android works fine.
Is there a way to flash CWM without using Odin now? (probably using linux "dd")
I would like to have CWM before I flash CM9 beacuse I want to create a full backup first.
Edit: Ok...I might have overlooked that this CWM is for Gingerbread.
Thanks
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A full back up of what ?
If you try to back up your current ROM app data, then restore it on cm, there'll be bugs potential.
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