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I have recently thought of leaving sprint because of there embarrassing services and was wondering if i can still use my hero with out a service provider??? if there was a program i could run on it?? I have so much money into my phone and would hate to not use it. i believe i can use the wifi part for data not sure?? but i want to make cals n stuff is there and type of hack i can use i am using fresh toast2.1. with a radio update. Thank You for the help. Sprint truely does not know how to run a company and man i bought my phone for full price!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP ME PLEASE
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I have recently thought of leaving sprint because of there embarrassing services and was wondering if i can still use my hero with out a service provider??? if there was a program i could run on it?? I have so much money into my phone and would hate to not use it. i believe i can use the wifi part for data not sure?? but i want to make cals n stuff is there and type of hack i can use i am using fresh toast2.1. with a radio update. Thank You for the help. Sprint truely does not know how to run a company and man i bought my phone for full price!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP ME PLEASE
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The phone doesn't just stop powering on after you cancel your service.
There are some illegal things you could do to bring it to another carrier... you can always use Data on wifi. I have read of some people using it for a simple PDA/Media player when they are done with it.
I for one am 100% happy with sprints customer service and cell service. Updating the phone could have happened quicker, but hey what do you do.
They have yet to do me wrong. Best cell company I have ever worked with and a heck of a good price.
When I left Verizon and told them I was going to Sprint and told them the price, the retentions department didn't even put up a fight because they knew they couldn't touch Sprints price.
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You may be able to use Google Voice over Wifi to place calls, but I am not sure. I doubt you would be able to recieve them since the registered phone number would be disconnected.
And my tethering with Spint is 3 times faster than it was with Verizon, and I acutally paid verizon the extra 15 a month for it....huge waste.
you could use skype to make calls over wifi
otherwise you will just have a PDA
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You may be able to use Google Voice over Wifi to place calls, but I am not sure. I doubt you would be able to recieve them since the registered phone number would be disconnected.
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That's a no-go Ghost Ryder. I'm currently service-less and Google Voice won't route over Wifi for calls, SMS will however. Now, if you set up the proper SIP accounts, you can use your Google Voice account through those SIPs to make and receive calls via Sipdroid. Google will pull up how-to's.
As for those lesser than legal matters, that's what I'm about to do myself. Ever done it first hand?
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That's a no-go Ghost Ryder. I'm currently service-less and Google Voice won't route over Wifi for calls, SMS will however. Now, if you set up the proper SIP accounts, you can use your Google Voice account through those SIPs to make and receive calls via Sipdroid. Google will pull up how-to's.
As for those lesser than legal matters, that's what I'm about to do myself. Ever done it first hand?
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Nope, but it doesn't look too complicated from what I have seen.
Depending on who you flash too MMS may recieve but not send, and Data may/not work.
Seems like some poeple are using better cut to route proxy info stuff through opera to achieve data.
I went through the same type of thing when I went from my touch pro to the hero. I still wanted to use my touch pro as a dedicated gps since at the time there werent any decent ones available on android. anyways, I had then went and set up a similar thing for making calls via the wifi using GV, sipgate, and I believe it was fring....I forget. Basically I would go on my phone browser to google voice, initiate the call from the website, then fring would ring on my touch pro and finish connecting the call. lawl, I just set up my brother's fiance's phone to do that since she is going to Germany for the summer this weekend...so she and my bro can talk for free (though she needs wifi which her dorm over there will have)
Ya, I definitely hear ya about Sprint.....it's funny, I get so so service in my house, yet about 2 miles down the road is a sprint store and as soon as I pull out onto the main drag BAAAAAM insta full signal >.<
As annoyed as I am I will not go back to verizon......way to rich for my blood LOL.
Here is a quick how to for the easiest way to accomplish the free calls thing via wifi. It's a little dated but the info is still good me thinks. The only thing is that you'd have to go to google.com/voice on your phone and (thankfully having all contacts synced to google) initiate the call/sms from there. To get it so you can actually dial out from the phone would require ALOT more configuring and can be annoying. So try this first, make sure it works and then if you want to get more jiggy with it, then figure out the whole "SIPSORCERY.com" thingy.
Good luck
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=100470
Thank You i am going to try and run the sipdroid and google voice idea i kinda wish there was a app too pick up a wi fi signal with increase strenght so i can use my phone everywhere instead of just home and local buisnesses lol. If you have any ideas to pick up further signals or wifi everywhere let me know also if you have and more ideas on the talk for free let me know thank you.
no dice there my friend haha, here is a thought. think of the phone as a cordless phone for home also, just keep in mind that the audio quality isn't going to be 100%. There will be a delay, there will be some compression artifacts, but hey at least its a free alternative to home phone right?
EDIT: being in a strong wifi environment will DEFINITELY help with quality as it has more umph to work with
i noticed when i read the how to guide u posted thaqt airplane mode will disable the cdma radio did it work so i can keep my battery lol?
heh, not certain. like I said, it's dated stuff not sure how to have only wifi on.
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Nope, but it doesn't look too complicated from what I have seen.
Depending on who you flash too MMS may recieve but not send, and Data may/not work.
Seems like some poeple are using better cut to route proxy info stuff through opera to achieve data.
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Well I'm actually not switching carriers. I was on a family plan, then a divorce hits, and everyone is refusing to pay the delinquent bill - point being, my phone is tied to that account and can't be used on any other account until the bill is paid. So, I'm hoping to sprinkle some voodoo magic on my Hero, then slap it on a new account with the same carrier.
I dont see why you dont convert the phone over to cricket service (if you have it) and just pay 35 dollars for talk and web. I mean minus well right?
I have a moto droid which is no longer active with Verizon(that $30 a month was getting to be a bit much) and would like to use google voice to make calls. On install, it gives an option to use google voice for calls, but when I actually try to make one it routes me to Verizon's "we're sorry, this phone isn't in service" message.
I understand that this isn't really the intended use, but I can use google talk to make a call from my PC, why will it not let me use the same service from my droid. Is this a quirk of the device or a limitation from Verizon or google?
I'm using the latest Bugless Beast, if it makes a difference, though I have also tried with CM7 build 3 and CM 6.1.2.
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Ah, nevermind. I figured it out myself. This is not possible with google voice alone, but I grabbed Sipdroid off the market. When paired with a google voice account(set to ring to gtalk as well as any other phone numbers) works rather well as a wifi phone. There is a bit of a delay sometimes in making a call, but no serious problems. call quality is quite good.
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This is a known GV issue across devices, I know people have had this problem on the S3, so no it's not your rom.
Sent from my S3 on Sense 5 (you jelly?)
This is not only an issue with gv, this happens from android to android or from android to iPhone regardless of having or using gv. I tested with other android phones, I phones, and multiple SMS apps, anything after the @ is dropped for some reason
I set up G Voice integration, and now when i get a call and my laptop is logged into Gmail, the call rings on the computer first, and only at the end does it ring on the phone. Is there any way to disable this, and have it just ring on the phone only... Or is this a by-product of having my Sprint number as my G Voice #? I unchecked forward to Google Chat in my G Voice settings on the laptop...
Also, what happens if i do answer via Google Chat on the laptop? Haven't tried that yet lol
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I set up G Voice integration, and now when i get a call and my laptop is logged into Gmail, the call rings on the computer first, and only at the end does it ring on the phone. Is there any way to disable this, and have it just ring on the phone only... Or is this a by-product of having my Sprint number as my G Voice #? I unchecked forward to Google Chat in my G Voice settings on the laptop...
Also, what happens if i do answer via Google Chat on the laptop? Haven't tried that yet lol
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If you do answer through Google Chat it will not ring on your phone and it will use your speakers and your mic to answer the call. You will literally answer the call on your laptop.
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If you do answer through Google Chat it will not ring on your phone and it will use your speakers and your mic to answer the call. You will literally answer the call on your laptop.
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Interesting, i might have to try that next time. I guess there is no way i could get charged for that?
Also, if i close my Gmail window when i leave the house, it will ring on my phone like normal? I have the box checked to forward calls to my Sprint phone..
yogi2010 said:
Interesting, i might have to try that next time. I guess there is no way i could get charged for that?
Also, if i close my Gmail window when i leave the house, it will ring on my phone like normal? I have the box checked to forward calls to my Sprint phone..
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Correct. It can be a little startling at times, but for the most part the Google Voice/Sprint integration works pretty well. I believe Cyanogenmod is working on a system-level Google Voice integration for receipt/sending via the stock messaging app, but if you can't wait, there's also a good AOSP-styled app called Messaging + Google Voice on the Play Store. I haven't tried it for a while (there was an annoying duplication bug where you'd receive messages twice in the app-- once over carrier, once over Google Voice, but they told me it'd be fixed soon).
Yeah, I'm pretty happy with the integration so far. I'm fine with texting the way it is, i think, because with the integration i already text thru the stock messaging app? And i like receiving texts to that number on my other phones thru the Google Voice app.... I prefer to know where the text came from lol.
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I set up G Voice integration, and now when i get a call and my laptop is logged into Gmail, the call rings on the computer first, and only at the end does it ring on the phone. Is there any way to disable this, and have it just ring on the phone only... Or is this a by-product of having my Sprint number as my G Voice #? I unchecked forward to Google Chat in my G Voice settings on the laptop...
Also, what happens if i do answer via Google Chat on the laptop? Haven't tried that yet lol
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The reason this happens is that Google Voice rings all associated devices, but the ones that are on a faster connection ring first. The computer's network connection is loads faster than Sprint's cell connection. Note that Springs 3/4G is not involved in this comparison.
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The reason this happens is that Google Voice rings all associated devices, but the ones that are on a faster connection ring first. The computer's network connection is loads faster than Sprint's cell connection. Note that Springs 3/4G is not involved in this comparison.
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does this mean that calls are still coming in to the phone thru the cellular phone network, and not data? because that would be one concern for me, as i would think that a cellular phone network would be more reliable than a cellular data network. i could be wrong tho.
and how about with regards to texting... are they still coming over the phone network and not data?
thanks for the info guys! you probably know more than is shared on the Google Voice site itself.
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does this mean that calls are still coming in to the phone thru the cellular phone network, and not data? because that would be one concern for me, as i would think that a cellular phone network would be more reliable than a cellular data network. i could be wrong tho.
and how about with regards to texting... are they still coming over the phone network and not data?
thanks for the info guys! you probably know more than is shared on the Google Voice site itself.
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Yes. Phone calls still go to the cellular network, but it is a much slower send than what the internet gets. Same goes for texting from your phone.
You're phone acts as usual, but your computer has a faster connection so it'll get those things first.
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Yes. Phone calls still go to the cellular network, but it is a much slower send than what the internet gets. Same goes for texting from your phone.
You're phone acts as usual, but your computer has a faster connection so it'll get those things first.
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ah ok, and do you notice that it takes an extra few seconds to send a call from the phone, after enabling integration, or is it my imagination? maybe it has to get routed somehow?
Think this only a VZW issue. I have my old Note 3 that I go back and forth between with my N6. If you are a busy person not just playing on the phone really using it for travel with GPS, email with exchange, busy with calls, etc. etc how are you all making it without Advance Calling to handle data and voice at the same time?
For me driving long hours using Google Maps and talking not able to look new address while on call and handle data is a killer...same with long conference calls and needing to send emails while on call or look up data via browser, dropbox, evernotes, etc and daily support stuff I do on my phone. So for time being I switch sims back and forth (have a nano to micro sim adapter) to my Note 3 more on it right now vs N6.
Thoughts?
yup, verizon issue(maybe sprint issue as well). im on tmobile, and have had voice and data at the same time since at least 2004, when i joined tmobile. even now, without volte. during a call, it swirches to hspa+ from lte(no calls through lte). and get high speed data, while on a phone call. but ill be honest, its really rare that i need the data while im on a phine call
May be a Verizon issue. ATT has no problem either. I make calls and use data all the time. One of the reasons I switched from Verizon many years ago before they added the functionality
Not sure I have ever used it. Not sure why you don't use a laptop... Superior in pretty much every imaginable way to a phone to actually get work done. I guess I work for a financial institution, so we don't use consumer stuff like Dropbox for data, and even if we did, a phone screen would be more trouble to use than its worth. And in my personal life, I'm a gringo middle aged dad...I use maybe 20 minutes a month, lol. So the reason it gets delayed is because most people have no use for it, or frankly never really thought about the fact that they can't do it.
I am a cable guy and believe me or not, the n6 is my daily driver. I had spent hours doing research to make sure that it would be a solid phone but it's hard to find a post about something that isn't supported yet. So I blindly traded my note 4 for a nexus 6. Still the best decision I've made all year.
I require a data connection 150% of the time. I also spend a lot of time on the phone, calling Comcast or my dispatch. The often ask for info that I can only reach with a data connection. Luckily, I have a lg gpad 8.3 lte that I use for that access but it's still very aggravating not being able to do that at all. It slows down my work a lot
I am on verizon and this really isn't a problem. I assume you have a Google voice account. You can make voip calls from within hangouts now. If your going to be on a call where you also need data just use the hangouts dialer. Problem solved.
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I am on verizon and this really isn't a problem. I assume you have a Google voice account. You can make voip calls from within hangouts now. If your going to be on a call where you also need data just use the hangouts dialer. Problem solved.
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Yeah, but that charges the call over data against your data cap... If Verizon would take Hangouts data and exclude it from your data cap, then I'd be all for this solution. Otherwise, Verizon needs to simply enable IMS VoLTE support, so that any Lollipop device can have VoLTE!
That's true but the amount of data those calls use is pretty negligible IMO.
Thanks all these are all great replies good feedback. Being so mobile my phone is always with me and just easier with a BTW headset look at phone and do task while on a call but seeing N6 now will have to wait.
I do have a cellular Samsung Note 10.1 tablet I never carry so to one person point I guess I will travel and carry it more just hate the extra load
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Has anyone with another device on their account (perhaps a Turbo) tried switching lines, enabling Advanced calling, and then switching back to see if this would actually work? My wife has a Turbo, so I'm tempted to try it out, but wanted to see if anyone else had already tried.
Im going to be buying a new device and i want one that i can unlock the bootloader and root and so far the nexus 6 is what im leaning towards. I currently have the vzw Lg g3 and love it, im gonna be keeping my G3 as a backup. I also like the note 4 but the bootloader unlock is a no go as far as i know. I also like playing modern combat on my g3 without any lagging. Which device would you suggest and why. I just wanna be 100% before i pay out the @SS for a phone. Help me make up my mind. Thank ya
im running chroma and want visual voice mail, so I called Verizon and disabled vvm and put on basic, tried setting up google voice no go. figured I had to have vvm turned on so I turned it back on, still didn't work. for the sake of time I disabled vvm again and put it to basic, now im getting the gargled text messages and voice mail notifications idk if itll turn off on its own? maybe it has to process in their system because so many changes?? if I wanted VVM google voice to work is there any easy instructions and should it be set to basic?? it kept saying in setup my account isn't supported when I had it set to google voice.
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im running chroma and want visual voice mail, so I called Verizon and disabled vvm and put on basic, tried setting up google voice no go. figured I had to have vvm turned on so I turned it back on, still didn't work. for the sake of time I disabled vvm again and put it to basic, now im getting the gargled text messages and voice mail notifications idk if itll turn off on its own? maybe it has to process in their system because so many changes?? if I wanted VVM google voice to work is there any easy instructions and should it be set to basic?? it kept saying in setup my account isn't supported when I had it set to google voice.
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First, for your issue, from what I've read VVM doesn't play nice with ROM's, need to be stock. I hope I'm incorrect, others likely will chime in ...
I've got the opposite issue, stock N6, not rooted or unlocked yet, and it prompts me to install the VVM app for any VM's I get (bought from VZW), I do not want VVM, and VVM is NOT enabled on my account, never has been.
How might I get my N6 VM notifications to act like I expect, and not an ad for VVM?
i know you can uninstall the Verizon vvm and call them and have it set to basic, I did on my stock phone. but now I want a rom and vvm.
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i know you can uninstall the Verizon vvm and call them and have it set to basic, I did on my stock phone. but now I want a rom and vvm.
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You can't use Verizon VVM on anything but stock. No matter how much you want it.
RW-1 said:
I've got the opposite issue, stock N6, not rooted or unlocked yet, and it prompts me to install the VVM app for any VM's I get (bought from VZW), I do not want VVM, and VVM is NOT enabled on my account, never has been.
How might I get my N6 VM notifications to act like I expect, and not an ad for VVM?
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Turn off enhanced LTE on the phone. On your Verizon account disable HD voice and switch to basic voice mail. Obviously you will lose VoLTE but that's the only way to get regular basic voicemail.
stevexyz0 said:
Turn off enhanced LTE on the phone. On your Verizon account disable HD voice and switch to basic voice mail. Obviously you will lose VoLTE but that's the only way to get regular basic voicemail.
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I hate to say I don't know how to turn off enhanced LTE on the N6, however, as far as the account goes, I don't have HD voice turned on, nor VoLTE, which is why this is so annoying.
I was on regular basic Voicemail, until I switched to the N6 as an edge upgrade, and hadn't done anything other than have it activated on my line.
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I hate to say I don't know how to turn off enhanced LTE on the N6, however, as far as the account goes, I don't have HD voice turned on, nor VoLTE, which is why this is so annoying.
I was on regular basic Voicemail, until I switched to the N6 as an edge upgrade, and hadn't done anything other than have it activated on my line.
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You sure it's not set on your account? They probably set it automatically when you activated the new phone. They were calling it advanced calling 1.0 at one point. On the phone go to settings, More, and then cellular networks. If you don't see enhanced LTE there its because it's off on your account and the phone setting doesn't matter.
IMHO I would never give up VoLTE to get basic voicemail but to each his own.
It's also possible something changed in 5.1 but I thought the plain VM indicator worked briefly for me after the 5.0.1 to 5.1 upgrade before I turned VoLTE on.
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You sure it's not set on your account? They probably set it automatically when you activated the new phone. They were calling it advanced calling 1.0 at one point. On the phone go to settings, More, and then cellular networks. If you don't see enhanced LTE there its because it's off on your account and the phone setting doesn't matter.
IMHO I would never give up VoLTE to get basic voicemail but to each his own.
It's also possible something changed in 5.1 but I thought the plain VM indicator worked briefly for me after the 5.0.1 to 5.1 upgrade before I turned VoLTE on.
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Nope, not there, never had advanced calling turned on, I had thought about it for both my wife and I, as she has a GS5, but left it for now settling into the N6...
I wouldn't give up VoLTE either just for the VM, but I hadn't yet pulled the trigger on it yet ...
It's not a deal breaker for me, just annoying as all get out, triggers my OCD which all of us here have in regards to their device hehehe.
I suppose I could call a VZ rep and have them look at the account, but truthfully that always worries me whenever one of them are in there ...
If you have any other suggestions, I'm game to listen ...
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Nope, not there, never had advanced calling turned on, I had thought about it for both my wife and I, as she has a GS5, but left it for now settling into the N6...
I wouldn't give up VoLTE either just for the VM, but I hadn't yet pulled the trigger on it yet ...
It's not a deal breaker for me, just annoying as all get out, triggers my OCD which all of us here have in regards to their device hehehe.
I suppose I could call a VZ rep and have them look at the account, but truthfully that always worries me whenever one of them are in there ...
If you have any other suggestions, I'm game to listen ...
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If you don't have Advanced Calling turned on then you don't have HD Calling nor VoLTE, they are bundled together. Anyway, no further suggestions but good luck
Just to let you know I have my basic voice mail working and I have advanced calling 1.0 turned on and my HD Calling and VoLTE is working.
I had a lot of trouble with Verizon because they couldn't figure out how to turn the visual voice mail off right. took about 10 phone calls to tech support to get it right.
I was getting the gargled text messages and voice mail notifications just like you.
Don't give up just keep calling back till you get somebody who knows what they are doing!
I knew it wasn't the phone or the sim card, I swapped another sim from a different number and the voice mail worked on the nexus 6.
Good luck!
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Just to let you know I have my basic voice mail working and I have advanced calling 1.0 turned on and my HD Calling and VoLTE is working.
I had a lot of trouble with Verizon because they couldn't figure out how to turn the visual voice mail off right. took about 10 phone calls to tech support to get it right.
I was getting the gargled text messages and voice mail notifications just like you.
Don't give up just keep calling back till you get somebody who knows what they are doing!
I knew it wasn't the phone or the sim card, I swapped another sim from a different number and the voice mail worked on the nexus 6.
Good luck!
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Thanks to the both of you, I have yet to call them, but figure something is likely borked from the activation of the new phone, for as large as they are I've seen too many botched provisioning issues lately
Don't know when I'll get to it, but I appreciate the input!