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I'm using HTC P4350 and im facing alot of problems when running games.
The screen just blacks out and i have to restart the device!!
Does anyone have any idea what's causing this??
I think that giving it more power like changing the pool size and overclocking might help but i dont know what to use to overclock and also the exact speed i should choose in order to not harm the device!!!
Any ideas??
Thanks.
Oh...i forgot to mention that im using the official HTC WM6 Rom
Try Battery Status, Search it in the Forums
And you can go ahead and search for Page Pool to. It does no harm even if you have an official rom.
I did it to when I still had an Official rom with no problems. Overclocked till 273 somethimes even 299 And i did the pagepool 6mb.
Thanks alot for the quick reply!!
do you have any ideas why it did this in the first place??
are these games too powerful for the processor or what??
cause i had this problem when i was using WM5 and i thought that upgrading to WM6 will do the trick!! but nothing changed!!
vampyre said:
Thanks alot for the quick reply!!
do you have any ideas why it did this in the first place??
are these games too powerful for the processor or what??
cause i had this problem when i was using WM5 and i thought that upgrading to WM6 will do the trick!! but nothing changed!!
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What games are you running.
No problem Love to help
Sorry for asking too many questions
i have two questions now...
1) i tried changing the pool size so i installed the enablerapi.cab and aserg policies.cab then i copied the contents of the change pool folder and tried to run 6mb.bat but an error says "there is no application associated with '6mb pool' run the application first then open this file from within the application.
what am i doing wrong??
2) i tried running the game again after the overclocking it blacked out again but i was able to return to windows without restarting...it says the storage is too low...and when i went to memory i found that the free storage is Zero!!!
is there a solution to that?? is there a way to increase the storage space???
delete the external rom or something??
thanks alot.
Hey all,
I have a question regarding PocketGBA and I seem to be seeing that people can get it to work on the Kaiser but I am having nothing but issues. I am using the non-cab installed version that has been posted on XDA but I cannot get this app to work.
When I click any icons it freezes and I have to preform a soft-reset with the stylus or hold the power button to power down.
I am using HyperDragon III PRO OS 5.2.20273 B. 20748.1.4.0, the prog is installed on my microSD card.
Any help would be awesome!
same with me..its wm6.1 no workaround as of yet..just have to revert to a wm6 rom i guess.. i posted before but seems no one uses this lol glad someone else does
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Hey all,
I have a question regarding PocketGBA and I seem to be seeing that people can get it to work on the Kaiser but I am having nothing but issues. I am using the non-cab installed version that has been posted on XDA but I cannot get this app to work.
When I click any icons it freezes and I have to preform a soft-reset with the stylus or hold the power button to power down.
I am using HyperDragon III PRO OS 5.2.20273 B. 20748.1.4.0, the prog is installed on my microSD card.
Any help would be awesome!
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Had the same issue. I found Morphgear to be a stable alternative at least for GBA. However it is not free but worth it.
deuzeff said:
Had the same issue. I found Morphgear to be a stable alternative at least for GBA. However it is not free but worth it.
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I did not know there was a GBA plugin for Morphgear, I will have to get that.
Thanks guys!
There is no need for plugin, the software can do it itself . I strongly recommend that you try first the ROM to see if it is not to laggy before purchasing a license, cause some of them I tried (GTA for example) are not so good for now... we'll have to wait for better drivers.
GB / GBC and NES working perfectly however.
xECK29x said:
Hey all,
I have a question regarding PocketGBA and I seem to be seeing that people can get it to work on the Kaiser but I am having nothing but issues. I am using the non-cab installed version that has been posted on XDA but I cannot get this app to work.
When I click any icons it freezes and I have to preform a soft-reset with the stylus or hold the power button to power down.
I am using HyperDragon III PRO OS 5.2.20273 B. 20748.1.4.0, the prog is installed on my microSD card.
Any help would be awesome!
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I have found that many graphics apps (e.g Quake 1, Quake 2, Age of Empires, SNES Emulators, Pocket GBA) does not work as soon as you implement Manilla 2d to a ROM or as part of the cab install - which I believe is part of the new HyperDragon Build you have?
I dont have the new Hyperdrgaon Build, but certainlly installing the Manilla 2d cab on my L26 Throttle Build 6 (or even ROMeOS 4.6.0 which I have also tried) stops any of the above working - i.e. crash as soon as opened. Basically I can install all the additional cabs for Manilla 2d - see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398173 (I can even install all addons including the cabs under "nice to have") but as soon as I install the file called XDA_Manilla 2d - PocketGBA etc does not work.
Uninstall this specfic cab - and all works again.
Funnily MorphGear and Picodrive DO still work with Manilla 2d though!
So although I cannot prove it on the Hyperdragon build, my guess is Manilla 2d is causing the issue!
Hy well i started this thread becouse i recently upgraded from an elf to a diamond... and now i'm not so sure i did a good thing... besides the fact that tf3d its better looking its running worse than the old manila 2d, wich was way way smoother on my elf. thing is i had so few ram on the elf i always runed out of memory when using opera mobile...but on diamond with so much ram and cpu speed available i can tell the difference in opera mobile but thats all... becouse the tf3d it's crap (in my opinion)
So i ask here is there any other rom wich i can use who might not have tf3d or maybe some cube like old elf, or maybe some other gui wich looks preaty nice? or maybe a clean rom and use another gui wich works on vga? i did a lot of search and i only found out SPB wich aint free.
ps i have read people saying that they have theyir diamonds at 30-35% memory afther soft reset, well mine its always around 50% and afther one day of using it (normal usage dialing, calling, a bit of teeter and some web browsing) i reach 90% still i did the tweak with opera preload in registry... but its crap i have to reset it all day at least once... how is this posible ? i mean elf had 64 ram and i still could play with 15 ram from the 64, diamond has 192 and i can play with only of them ? so where are the rest? what is using those 160mb of ram ? was elf using other version of windows mobile (as i remember it was 6.1 same like the one on diamond) is tf3d so much memory hungry ?
thanks hope u understand my english and hope someone can enlight me a bit, or direct me to some links where i can read about this (problem) besides the search, cose (i might be dumb) i canot find anithing relevant...
I'm going to take a stab, and say it might be related to your rom (carrier loaded rom especially).
I bought the US 3g unlocked Diamond (no carrier)..and I was happy with it (faster then my old hermes).
I'm now using Dutty's latest rom..and it is very smooth.
Have you tried turning off touchflo, and sticking with the manila 2d UI?
I have the CT's v 6.4 HD Lite ROM which includes TouchFLO 3D and the speed is good. Highly recommended.
As for soft reset, I normally switch off the phone at the end of the day. That is same as soft reset and I switch it back on next morning, I think.
well as far as i know manila 2d ui aint for VGA... or at least i couldn't find anything to work on 600x480...
TF2D for VGA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
I agree with you, TF3D is absolute crap. The speed doesn't bother me so much, it's just the memory that is used up for no good purpose, given that TF3D has no genuine benefit whatsoever. I can't think of a single feature that works properly or usefully, compared to ordinary WM apps and today plugins.
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I think the Diamond's a great little phone - attractive and good pocket size - and the battery life isn't too much of a problem. However, given how slow the Diamond is at graphics and file system operations, it doesn't need to be burdened by a white elephant like TF3D.
SPB Mobile Shell is very popular but I went the tradional route of using SPB Pocket Plus with Phone Suite and some other plugins. DevState 1.5 works great as a Today screen task manager.
I started up this thread for any Kaiser user who uses, develops or does anything with Touch flo 3d Qvga (I Know there are other threads about these programs, this is to bring it into one place).
Posts on Applications, themes or anything for tf3d-qvga-3 and Touchflo 2d v 2.0 build 1919 is welcome!
Here is the kaiser D3D Driver.
If any Concerns Contact me at: [email protected]
I found a Standby App that shuts down TF3D when you power down:
Youtube App Also:
I thought Touch flo 3d doesn't work on Kaiser? Did someone get it working?
Dukenukemx said:
I thought Touch flo 3d doesn't work on Kaiser? Did someone get it working?
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It works, it just doesn't work very well. TF3D needs the HTC-Class Action drivers, which are incompatible with all ROMS running the 101MB RAM hack. In addition, even if it does work on your ROM, a bug with the drivers prevents the device from entering standby while TF3D was enabled. A mortscript was made to disable it when the device was suspended or going to suspend, but it still took awhile and sometimes didn't work at all. Then, it would resume TF3D after waking the device, which also took awhile and intermittently worked.
There was a thread awhile back here, which put all the information in one place, so check it out if you're interested. But the way I see it, until fully working ATI Imageon/MSM7200 drivers are released for our devices, TF3D is unusable. If you want something that works well though, try the newest Manila 2d from the HTC Mega, which has the flipping clock and some of the looks of TF3D without the problems, and with this installed, it looks pretty similar.
Last nite i managed to experiment and install TF3D! on my htc tytn II, i used Unholy's Gaming Rom which doesnt have 101 ram and has D3D Drivers built in, i have to say for stuff thats experimental it does work quite well, its responsive and looks fantastic, it does take a bit to initialise once u come out of standby/sleep, but other than that i had a total ram usage of 50% used, 50% free which wasnt too bad, i think a fully working TF3D for our Kaisers is not too far away, as long as development continues, big up to da guys who have made this possible!
The problem seems to be that the drivers are in terrible shape. Doesn't work with roms using 101MB ram hack, and it won't allow the phone to go into standby.
How different is the MSM7200 vs MSM7201A? If devices using the MSM7201A chipset can run Touch Flo 3D just fine, then why can't we just take the drivers from those devices?
If someone has some experience with hacking drivers, I bet you can get those drivers working. I bet someone from Beyond3D could do it.
Some Screenshots Of Manila 2D:
hi bj... thx for the threads...it work just nice on my kaiser...but still have problems with bat power n backlight....seems it auto manage them when bat almost out...
nommy76 said:
hi bj... thx for the threads...it work just nice on my kaiser...but still have problems with bat power n backlight....seems it auto manage them when bat almost out...
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Is This the standby program? if it is, the program doesnt like the backlight settings in. try turning them off. another way around this is to program one of the hardware keys to <none> then when the backlight turns off, push the button. it should turn the backlight back on.
it took me ages to find how to fix this problem. its painful but its worth it
Hope this Helps
Makes sense
here is a video of the new sense ui for htc touch 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDhnhrdYP0I
Background to all pages
Background for all tabs
I havent tested this yet...but here is the download
BG all pages
thx but after installed it, it doesn't work its ok i'll satisfied with my TF3D v3 now...the stand_by also work very well so now my bat last longer...hope i could post all the cab files n some images of my Kaiser...
TF3D on htc tyTn 11 Kaiser+S2U2+S2P
i take no credit just wanna share...
more images...
a few more images...
and the files...
still i'll take no credit for all these...really wanna share it...
take note these cabs/files are use on my kaiser and i don't know if it runs on others...used at your own risk...pls read the instructions first...cheers..
the files...
1. TF3D-QVGA_v3
2. NFSFAN Opera 9.5
3. htc audio manager by Swtos
4. htc Diamond album
5. TouchResponce v02_2
6. htc CA_Kaiser_Drivers
7. TouchPower & tf3dStandBy
8. M3D Lanscape
9. YoutubeQVGA
10. MortScript
11. Uzeb QVGA tf3d font patch (makes ur font a bit clearer)
12. No Curtains and Transparent bottom bar
13. Pamas Transparent Slider
14. MobileMatt CrystalClockWhite
15. S2U2-2.04QVGA
16. S2P-0.73betaQVGA
17. S2V-0.42QVGA (actually not working on my Kaiser, my bad to include this)
18. tPRO for S2P QVGA (theme that goes with TF3D)
Download the zip files at RapidShare from here..
and attached is standby in mortscript. (just extract all the files to your storage card)
...added fire charging phase; extract batteryg.png copy/paste and overwrites the png files to s2us folder in device/programfiles/S2U2
Screenshots!
Mate! love the screenshots it looks great! thanks for the links some there i didnt have.
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doesn't work on my device..
One thing i know about Manilla... be it 2D or 3D... is that it's never the same instaling it, or having it cooked in a rom.
You'll never have the same stabillity... functionality even.
We could, of course, have a cook try and give us one very simple 6.1 rom with manilla3D cooked in.... it would be nice... just as a proof of concept.
Laurentius26...think that was is nick, once attempted it...
Now... that developments which i'm NOT aware now, like KaiserGL, VG and such...
stability...
i guess its how you choose the right files to flash and how you flash it because i did noticed different owner with same device, manilas and ROM but getting different results...
Hi.
Which Rom are using??
i'm using stock ROM 3.29
See Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416474
the story of how i came here is i was looking for a phone with direct3D support and the msm7225 processor as the native support on the touch 3g sucked.
i looked at the datasheet page here http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=...alcomm_msm7225
Clicked the browse all devices that use the MSM7225 looked through the list until i come across one that had windows mobile as the os, first one i come across was the omnaPro, checked if it supported direct3d knowing the gpu would be the same as its embedded in the msm7225 and google lead me here.
i thought what the hell , its not a omniaPro, but theres always hard resetting lol (done it once tonight lol)
tried the direct3d examples first, without driver , sucked , less than 1fps would be my guess, installed the drivers expecting a crash and nothing , it booted , run the examples an BANG PERFECT!!! AWESOME!! WELL HAPPY!!!
off to post in the touch 3g forum am a happy bunny, hope it will solve the 2d issues as looking at the cab its local hooked and not remote hooked so it must be the only gpu driver running.
AWESOME!
does it run on jade!! does this means that we can run tf3d on jade!!
oooh wow, thnx for the find !
Maybe some of the cooks will create a rom with this one and Touch Flow 3D
this was my first thought too lol . not gonna happen tho, because tf3d uses opengl ES, and thats totally diffrent to direct3d.
not imposible because there is a opengl ES compatibility layer for the omnia 2 i8000 (dont bother iv tried it already for fun and what i expected happend nothing at all lol).
tf3d would be nice tho, so if iv missed somthing and we can run tf3d on just pere direct3d someone let me know how please would be nice to have a mini hd mini lol
hehe yeah our own htc hd mini
so wait, what exactly is this useful for then ? gaming ?
I confirm that D3D driver from Omnia works perfectly.
Now we just need to get a working Opengl ES driver ("lib_GLES_cm.dll" I believe).
there is just one game that stil wont run after this driver instal ( xtrakt ). other games like cod can now run on full speed on max settings. and without the driver it was stil playabel at lowest settings but stil laggy a bit. sow there is a big diffrends whit this driver !
i confirm too that the 3d tests run very well , but didn't try any game. Exept some 3d games does it play a role for some other 2d games or apps , or even the menus slide ?
soms apps are faster whit this even scrolling feels difrend and smoother like my navigon ( gps navigator) is running faster and loading faster but on manila i dont see that much difrend
ritchietos said:
there is just one game that stil wont run after this driver instal ( xtrakt ). other games like cod can now run on full speed on max settings. and without the driver it was stil playabel at lowest settings but stil laggy a bit. sow there is a big diffrends whit this driver !
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that game requires OpenglES thats why it doesnt run. il say it again , its DIRECT3d not opengles , hence tf3d will not run yet.
it does seem to help manilia , the bottom scroll is smoother. and yeah it prob will help games no end judging by the jumpp on the 3d tests.
again , no tf3d yet but well worth it
thatguy1982 said:
that game requires OpenglES thats why it doesnt run. il say it again , its DIRECT3d not opengles , hence tf3d will not run yet.
it does seem to help manilia , the bottom scroll is smoother. and yeah it prob will help games no end judging by the jumpp on the 3d tests.
again , no tf3d yet but well worth it
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iam using a opengl software driver from vincent works well for touchflo 3d
if u use throttle launcher runs on opengl if u set it so. i now its still emulate on the cpu but its faster than the normal settings
ritchietos said:
iam using a opengl software driver from vincent works well for touchflo 3d
if u use throttle launcher runs on opengl if u set it so. i now its still emulate on the cpu but its faster than the normal settings
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Can you please give us some more explanation and eventually some link for the files?
Thanks
P.S. This thread and Android thread I am following and reading with interest.
dreamdreamt said:
Can you please give us some more explanation and eventually some link for the files?
Thanks
P.S. This thread and Android thread I am following and reading with interest.
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here is the page for the opengl.
http://www.vincent3d.com/
and here is the tool its like manila whit skins. and there is a android skin phone 7 skin an touchflo 3 the hero skin the sense skin.... (soms skins need difrend thorttle bulds so read it good )
http://www.throttlelauncher.com/portal/
u need the opengl from vincent to make the animation work.
and net framework 3.5.
hope this helps .
ritchietos said:
here is the page for the opengl.
http://www.vincent3d.com/
and here is the tool its like manila whit skins. and there is a android skin phone 7 skin an touchflo 3 the hero skin the sense skin.... (soms skins need difrend thorttle bulds so read it good )
http://www.throttlelauncher.com/portal/
u need the opengl from vincent to make the animation work.
and net framework 3.5.
hope this helps .
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Thanks a lot
Hi ritchietos,
I downloaded Vincent ES 1.x but don't know how to install it??
ok so u se a folder whit the name ogles-bin-1.0.0 .then open bin .than open arm and then u se 2 maps debug and release open the release map and copy al te files in the windows directory on u phone. dont forget to turn on opengl on the throttleconfig.
and u ready to go
awesome now we have software emulated ogles too !!
i cant get it working with tf3d. i used the tf3d_qvga.cab from htcclassaction.com and the same thing happened.
what cab are you using that works ?
if i can get it working il make a cab for the jade when i get some spare time
thatguy1982 said:
awesome now we have software emulated ogles too !!
i cant get it working with tf3d. i used the tf3d_qvga.cab from htcclassaction.com and the same thing happened.
what cab are you using that works ?
if i can get it working il make a cab for the jade when i get some spare time
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the real touchflo3d works but there are som white textures because its for a ati chipsets. there are som ports for this to get it work but didnt have the thime jet to search for it . the throttlelauncher touchflo 3d or android skin works whit opengl
throttlelauncher seems about the same speed with and without acceleration, but that cud b because im tired lol.
i never knew the textures were not displayed because of the lack of the ati chip are you sure about this as the vincent dll emulates it all in software id think it was because this dll lacks certain fetures.
anyone ever hear of the old glide wrappers that converted 3dfx calls to directx ? sounds similar to early glide wrappers to me lol
EDIT: Its slower with 3d acceleration enabled because of the wrapper i think, am just going to verify everythings installed right
EDIT2: yes its all installed right the d3d samples still fly too, shame throttlelauncher does not support direct3d acceleration. with the hero theme it averages 4fps just sitting there on the homescreen with acceleration on, and about 19-20fps without acceleration.
thatguy1982 said:
throttlelauncher seems about the same speed with and without acceleration, but that cud b because im tired lol.
i never knew the textures were not displayed because of the lack of the ati chip are you sure about this as the vincent dll emulates it all in software id think it was because this dll lacks certain fetures.
anyone ever hear of the old glide wrappers that converted 3dfx calls to directx ? sounds similar to early glide wrappers to me lol
EDIT: Its slower with 3d acceleration enabled because of the wrapper i think, am just going to verify everythings installed right
EDIT2: yes its all installed right the d3d samples still fly too, shame throttlelauncher does not support direct3d acceleration. with the hero theme it averages 4fps just sitting there on the homescreen with acceleration on, and about 19-20fps without acceleration.
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White squares: Images appearing as white squares is due to non support of ATC textures - this can be caused by a non ATI graphics driver - either an nvidia one (intel used ati i beleive) or software based ones. This is an IP issue more than anything else, and not something that we as developers can easily fix. (from xda)
they are som devices whit this fix so iam looking for it to ghet it working.