[Q] Droid without data on VZW - Motorola Droid and Milestone Q&A, Help & Troublesh

my younger brother dropped his basic flip phone in a puddle last week and i have an old droid laying around is there any way that i can replace his phone with the droid without adding a data package?
he doesn't need the internet, is there any way to swap the number into the droid without having to tell vzw that its a smartphone?

No. Verizon knows by the serial # that it is a Motorola A855 Droid and will require a data plan. There is no way around it.

is ther no way to change the serial to the one on the basic phone we cant afford an extra $30 a month

ferny_dx said:
is ther no way to change the serial to the one on the basic phone we cant afford an extra $30 a month
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Nope. If there was, it would be illegal like a IMEI changer.
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Have u offered it as a trade to someone with a phone that doesn't require the data package I would ask around I'm sure there is someone around you who would be interested
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Droid 2? might sell nexus one

I have a nexus one what do u think of the Droid 2 I am thinking off selling my nexus and getting the Droid 2 help me out plz going to go play with it at Verizon when I. Finish working Thx for. The feedback
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Is your #1 preference the carrier or the phone?
Mine is the carrier and t-mobile has been great in the areas that I use the phone most (NYC). So i have to have the N1 since I also use the $10 data plan.
wouldn't recommend it unless you're doing it to switch carriers.
my friend has a d2 and it's got lots of freezes, terrible battery life, and the biggest flaw of all, there's virtually no development for this rom. that is, there is like two custom roms people have made for it.

Anyone been able to get a different phone from Verizon for data/signal issues?

I've been having so many issues w/ data and signal, im just wondering if I put enough pressure is there any way I could get Verizon to give me a different phone?
My phone is close to unusable how often I don't have signal and im just really tired of it..
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Well the update from Moto is suppose to fix this issues, so Verizon may make you wait til you receive the update before looking into swapping a phone for you.
The Restart Connections app from the market doesn't work for you? It works for me about 90% of the time when I lose my signal. Rarely I will have to reboot to get signal back.
stelv said:
Well the update from Moto is suppose to fix this issues, so Verizon may make you wait til you receive the update before looking into swapping a phone for you.
The Restart Connections app from the market doesn't work for you? It works for me about 90% of the time when I lose my signal. Rarely I will have to reboot to get signal back.
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I haven't tried that, ill try it but they promised me an update by early nov, and they've given me already 2 months of free service. I dont care about getting free service id rather pay instead of the hassle... I was just thinking they might since there highest level of support saying it was a known issue they were responsible for and had moto working on an update. Sucks I paid full retail on launch day and have only had problems..
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I take it you can only complain to Verizon if you bought the device from them.
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Yea Verizon definitely knows of the problems. Its common. Verizon will eventually offer you a new phone but it may not be something you want. If the problem isn't fixed after the update and they persist they will probably offer some better replacements.
I don't really have a big problem with connection but it is there. Some days it doesn't happen at all. Someone on another forum said they received an update from Moto already, so hopefully they start rolling out soon.
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nosit1 said:
I take it you can only complain to Verizon if you bought the device from them.
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I bought mine from best buy lol..
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Verizon told me they started rolling the update dec 1st in batches..
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I actually have a new one arriving today. My data loss is horrible. It will show full bars (3g and 4g) but the second I go to do something the data will drop. Extremely frustrating and annoying. I'm pretty sure I'm getting a refurb but if it holds data better I'm ok.
EDIT: Just wanted to add that is the FIRST time I've ever done a warranty replacement in 6 years with Verizon. Wasn't terribly difficult...
mistawolfe said:
I actually have a new one arriving today. My data loss is horrible. It will show full bars (3g and 4g) but the second I go to do something the data will drop. Extremely frustrating and annoying. I'm pretty sure I'm getting a refurb but if it holds data better I'm ok.
EDIT: Just wanted to add that is the FIRST time I've ever done a warranty replacement in 6 years with Verizon. Wasn't terribly difficult...
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If you just got another Bionic, your problems aren't going to go away. I got my warranty replacement last week; same issues.
They did offer me a new phone; anything but the Razr. Considering I not only bought the phone at launch, but bought a couple hundred dollars in accessories...I want the phone to work as advertised; not a new phone.
Well the week before Thanksgiving I was actually sucessful of having the store giving me an actual off the floor replacement. Up until that time I have taken my phone into 4 different corporate stores in and around Cincinnati and each time The associate looked at the phone and just ordered their "certified like new" replacement shipped to my home. Now I want you all to know these "certified" units were nothing more than returns to VZW from others that are experiencing the same thing. I went out of my way to take the phone into the closest store when I experienced either the loss of data or the BSOD situation.
This time I tried something different which got me a brand new phone..not sure what pushed them over the edge though....On the 23rd of November I got the dead BSOD and immediately took the phone back to the origional store which I purchased it on the 12th of September and cornered my origional salesperson explaining that I have had four replacements...I sternly request for him to correct this problem WITHOUT pulling the battery....The store was moderately heavy with customers who had a ear tuned to my complaint. He was insistant that he had to pull the battery after plugging in a charger...I loudly told him to stop and demanded for customer service to be put on the line because I insisted pulling the battery was going to do nothing more than set me up with a return trip. He told me that all customer service was going to do is issue out another "certified" unit...Loudly I protested that this has to come to an end because all of the screen protectors he had sold me during the origional purchase are now gone and the battery life is degrading fast due to the constantly seeking for data problem. Everybody knows VZW does not ship a new battery or battery door with these "certified" units ( of course). As I would not budge on the "certified" route because my battery and battery door was showing signs of premature wear...the manager stepped in and allowed me to turn in my unit for another right out of the box...printed out a receipt for the return full price and then gave me a new receipt with the same price but with the november date. He told the associate to mark the unit defective screen out of box. Now he didnt allow me to have the new battery or door BUT I got a new unit which I am happy to report has not had a hiccup since...knock on wood. BUT BE FOR WARNED...if you are sucessful at getting a off the floor exchange...check your account because the billing dept of VZW thinks this is a upgrade and will sneak a updated contract date in on your account....It took two calls into customer service to explain to them this was not an upgrade and after they tell you that it has been noted....TAKE THE TIME to check online your contract date is put back to the origional date.
After a little bit of work I am a happy Bionic VZW customer
Have you guys tried the SIM pull trick? My Bionic has not had a data problem since. I did this over a month ago.
1) turn off Bionic and pull SIM
2) power on the bionic and open phone. It will state the SIM is missing.
3)turn off the Bionic and insert SIM
You will need a pair of fine tweezers for this.
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This won't help if you need the 4G throughput (for hotspot, etc), but my data connection is rock solid on the go if i choose CDMA Only mode under Mobile Networks.
I've taken to changing to LTE Only mode in the field testing interface (##PROGRAM) when I need to use LTE throughput for hotspot, and that, too, is rock solid. The problem seems to occur for me only when it's switching between CDMA and LTE.
CaliTilt said:
Have you guys tried the SIM pull trick? My Bionic has not had a data problem since. I did this over a month ago.
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Pulling the SIM did nothing for me, unfortunately. I'd demand a new (and different) phone, but I spent about $150 on accessories and don't want to unload those for pennies on FleaBay.
Its all 4g phones. If u want reliable service. Switch back to a 3g only device. After 3 Droid charges, Verizon sent me this bionic. .. still having issues. Just gotta get use to it
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justin94 said:
Its all 4g phones. If u want reliable service. Switch back to a 3g only device. After 3 Droid charges, Verizon sent me this bionic. .. still having issues. Just gotta get use to it
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False....tbolt for me has never data dropped since being on actual gingerbread radios. Bionic? Even running the leak data dropped like none other.
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Pulling Sim worked at first but its gotten so bad it doesn't work as well anymore. I tried to get vzw to give me a diff phone but they wouldn't budge only offer me a refurb which I don't want after paying 700 full retail plus 150 in accessories.
And no not all 4g, my thunderbolt never gave me connectivity issues..
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I've had them all minus the revolution, my wife has my old tbolt now, granted her data drops are extremely Rare.....when they do happen, it takes a while to switch the radio back on
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Haze69 said:
Verizon told me they started rolling the update dec 1st in batches..
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Can any confirm this? Anyone get it?
Turning off lte helped me. I have too reboot maybe every third day or so now to get back dropped data.every it was 4 or so times a day
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cixelsyddyslexic said:
I've taken to changing to LTE Only mode in the field testing interface (##PROGRAM) when I need to use LTE throughput for hotspot, and that, too, is rock solid. The problem seems to occur for me only when it's switching between CDMA and LTE.
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what's the "SPC password"?
thanks

using warranty to get another phone?

Hi guys,
Due to some charging issues I have, I decided im going to warranty out my phone. I remember reading some people managing to get a different phone through warranty.
whats your experience on this? When I worked for AT&T they usually never sent different phones unless the phone was extinct.
what do you guys think?
If you were with Verizon, no chance. You get a refurb of same model.
You have to have a few phones replaced before they will typically send you a different phone. I went through 5 Droid Erises then they sent me a Droid 2 but I.had to purchase the battery and back.cover myself.
While they don't commonly send you a different phone, it does occasionally happen. I am on Verizon.
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yeah with verizon they'll only give you a different model if they are out of stock on the one you have.... and they'll pick the replacement for you.
your only shot is to call customer care a few times reporting issues with your phone. after they"ve logged your calls("complaints") a few times then proceed telling them that you're ready to cancel service. at that point they should be willing to work something out with you.
Coming from the Fascinate, I recall some people getting the Incredible 2 or the Charge as a replacement for it.
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i tried this, and they offered me a charge
good luck
voxigenboy said:
yeah with verizon they'll only give you a different model if they are out of stock on the one you have.... and they'll pick the replacement for you.
your only shot is to call customer care a few times reporting issues with your phone. after they"ve logged your calls("complaints") a few times then proceed telling them that you're ready to cancel service. at that point they should be willing to work something out with you.
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Its kind of funny that you mentioned threatening to cancel your services. That's what I did to get them to send me the Droid 2 for my Droid Eris. Even after they originally agreed, they turned and canceled it once and then I really went off on them for trying to break their agreement.
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Cool_story_bro said:
i tried this, and they offered me a charge
good luck
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What exactly did you think they were going to offer you? Be happy they gave you another option. I had my Droid Eris for 9 months and went through 5 of them and had to threaten to cancel my contract to get them to give me a Droid 2 around the time they were releasing the Droid 2 global and already gave up on the Droid 2. They're not going to give you one of their top notch phones. If anyone thinks they will get a razr or nexus as a replacement, stop kidding yourself. Be happy they offered you the Charge and not the LG Revolution. The revolution is what I would expect them to give as a replacement, and I highly recommend avoiding the revolution even though it does have an unlocked bootloader. If you do get the revolution, you will see that having an unlocked bootloader isn't all what some people think it is.
If you want the Razr, I suggest waiting until the newer Razr comes out before using your warranty. Once that comes out, they may be willing to give you the razr as a replacement but right now that wont happen.
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Warranty return through Verizon or motorola?

I need to send my phone in to be repaired/replaced under warranty. Anyone know if there are any advantages/disadvantages to returning through a Verizon store versus sending to Motorola?
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Verizon eould be much faster and im pretty sure moto would make you send you phone in as Verizon would let you keep it until new phone arrives
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ive been having data issues + this weird 'clicking' sound during calls. i've had my bionic replaced twice(verizon did it as i have their "total equipment coverage").
anyway, i'm still having issues so they've now offered to replace the phone again + said i can buy a new phone at an upgrade price.
I second the Verizon notion
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Verizon return
I have not personally returned a phone, but all that I have read, everyone takes theirs back to Verizon.
Moto: repairs device
Verizon:replaces device
I have sent my phone to both companies..with motorola you have to pay for the repair, while with Verizon ive never had to pay for any damages on the cracked screen on the bionic I sent them..because I never told them, thus I didnt get charged and this happened about 2 months ago so it wouldve shown up by now
Just call Verizon and BS some technical problem and get a free replacement..been doing that since my D1
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Take it to the Verizon store you bought it at. They might be able swap you out there. You keep your SD card, battery, and back cover and they just switch the phone. I used to take my Droid Eris in and have it replaced.
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Just a follow-up in case anyone else faces this issue.
I did decide to use Verizon's return. I took it to the local Verizon store (and not the one I actually purchased the phone from as I was out of town when I bought it) and they had a new (well, I imagine actually a re-furbed) phone Fed-Ex'ed to my house. It apparently will come with a mailer to send the current phone back. So I get to use my current phone until the replacement arrives.
Motorola's warranty service would have required me to send the phone to motorola, and wait an estimated 5 - 7 days for them to repair and return it to me. I think using Verizon was much better as this group had suggested. Thanks!
parsnip2 said:
Just a follow-up in case anyone else faces this issue.
I did decide to use Verizon's return. I took it to the local Verizon store (and not the one I actually purchased the phone from as I was out of town when I bought it) and they had a new (well, I imagine actually a re-furbed) phone Fed-Ex'ed to my house. It apparently will come with a mailer to send the current phone back. So I get to use my current phone until the replacement arrives.
Motorola's warranty service would have required me to send the phone to motorola, and wait an estimated 5 - 7 days for them to repair and return it to me. I think using Verizon was much better as this group had suggested. Thanks!
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I believe that the Verizon stores stopped having replacement phones in stock so they now order it for you and will be there in 2-4 days. They used to swap you out in the store but my local store said they stopped carrying the extra stock.
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cant get tether working on ics leak...

I'm on the second leak and tried both regular rooted stock and safe strapped to cm9 but wireless tether for root users fails setting up adhoc on both. Anything I'm missing here or is this a known issue?
Try the generic ICS profile on wireless tether.
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Try the generic ICS profile on wireless tether.
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Completely overlooked that profile. Switched to Droid bionic profile but didn't see that one. That did it boss.....appreciate it buddy
Did it work? I was able to get it connected but no internet service
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Yea it worked for me
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Yea it worked for me
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What leak are you on? 2231 2233?
I tried that and it still don't work for me
I even disable access controll
Only foxfi working for me
I'm on 2233
The SQL edit also works.
where can we pick up the sql hack?
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The SQL edit also works.
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You should pay the additional $30 if you want to WiFi Tether. (or switch to Sprint). Don't be cheats. Rooting and installing custom ROMs isn't illegal, it just voids your ability to call in for phone support...WiFi Tethering without a plan is against the TOS. Nobody should be encouraging others, or instructing them on how to violate the TOS. XDA mods really need crack down on threads like this. If you pay for the feature it will work without you having to do any workarounds.
I use it in cases when there is no wifi and we need a real computer, people already pay upwards fo 100 dollars for one line. You pay for the data you should use it as you want. Plus the original android had wifi tether built in for free.
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I use it in cases when there is no wifi and we need a real computer, people already pay upwards fo 100 dollars for one line. You pay for the data you should use it as you want. Plus the original android had wifi tether built in for free.
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just do a google search i think you will find it pretty easy as it used to be if still not is on this site still somewhere that is where i got it from in the first place.
so now if i am breaking a rule on here please let me know but it's kind of funny how i first heard and found out how to do this in this very site.
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I use it in cases when there is no wifi and we need a real computer, people already pay upwards fo 100 dollars for one line. You pay for the data you should use it as you want. Plus the original android had wifi tether built in for free.
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You got that right! I pay upwards of $350.00 a month for 3 lines with unlimited data. What part of "UNLIMITED DATA" does verizon not get? I will continue to hack my phone until it can no longer be done !
Thank you I pay out but for my phone I should be able to do what I want with it besides it's not like they aren't making a killing off me and now they want to make more I work very hard for the little bit of money I get after all my bills are paid I have 60 dollars a week to live off of and that is not including food and I get no food stamps or anything so believe me when I say
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Paying for tethering is simply not possible on a ROM that doesn't have moto/vzw apps built in, either. Nobody would possibly pay for something that they can't use due to it not existing
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You should pay the additional $30 if you want to WiFi Tether. (or switch to Sprint). Don't be cheats. Rooting and installing custom ROMs isn't illegal, it just voids your ability to call in for phone support...WiFi Tethering without a plan is against the TOS. Nobody should be encouraging others, or instructing them on how to violate the TOS. XDA mods really need crack down on threads like this. If you pay for the feature it will work without you having to do any workarounds.
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Haha! You tell em.
I don't know about you but I'm tired of paying nearly 200 buck for 2 smart phones that I can't do anything I want with. If I have the capabilities and the know how, then I see no harm. I think you should save your opinion or start your own thread called the "Android Police." I'm personally here to give help where help is needed if I can.
I also personally see no problems using my phone as a wireless tether because the 4GB data plan I have that I pay 30 bucks for each line runs out so quick each month I feel I either have to be rich or be a drug dealer to be able to afford the plan I need to get the most out of my phone.
PS. I think this post is a great candidate for a dislike or thumbs down button.
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crobs808 said:
You should pay the additional $30 if you want to WiFi Tether. (or switch to Sprint). Don't be cheats. Rooting and installing custom ROMs isn't illegal, it just voids your ability to call in for phone support...WiFi Tethering without a plan is against the TOS. Nobody should be encouraging others, or instructing them on how to violate the TOS. XDA mods really need crack down on threads like this. If you pay for the feature it will work without you having to do any workarounds.
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I'm Sorry, i didn'tknow you were on verizons payroll. Verizon screws us out of a lot of money monthly and continue to come up with ways to screw us more. All we are doing is getting our moneys worth
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Topsnake said:
I'm Sorry, i didn'tknow you were on verizons payroll. Verizon screws us out of a lot of money monthly and continue to come up with ways to screw us more. All we are doing is getting our moneys worth
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Haha I thumbs upped you.
I was personally with sprint for 10 years before switching to Verizon. I was tired of paying more than 2 grand a year with sprint and couldn't even get good data signal at home or work. Then they made me pay to get out even though I didn't get good service to begin with. Verizon's 3g and 4g run circles around sprint.
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I'm sure it is. I hate people like that poster though
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holy schist 350 for 3 lines wow. I pay 260 for 6 and only 3 have data. And i found it lol
crobs808 said:
You should pay the additional $30 if you want to WiFi Tether. (or switch to Sprint). Don't be cheats. Rooting and installing custom ROMs isn't illegal, it just voids your ability to call in for phone support...WiFi Tethering without a plan is against the TOS. Nobody should be encouraging others, or instructing them on how to violate the TOS. XDA mods really need crack down on threads like this. If you pay for the feature it will work without you having to do any workarounds.
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WiFi tethering is part of AOSP Android, bud. The carriers (at least in the US) remove this feature and include their own hotspot for a fee. Installing the SQL hack is technically against the TOS, since in that case you are using their service, they just don't know - but when you use an app that does *not* use their service, but rather Android's built-in capabilities, then you are doing nothing wrong.

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