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Well guys, this would be a first:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Htc-HD-2-batter...311?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb4d8f5af
But hold on though. It almost looks like a plain old re wrapped Li-Ion battery. The guys feedback makes me skeptical, too. Looks like he's new to Ebay.
Thoughts?
I believe its the same old crap. They say its 1600mA. But in reality even worse than standard 1200 mA. Price talks for itself.
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I believe its the same old crap. They say its 1600mA. But in reality even worse than standard 1200 mA. Price talks for itself.
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You know I see alot of talk about these 1600mah batteries from Japan and alot of speculation, but I have never seen anyone do any real world testing. I was planning on buying one of the 1600mah batteries and doing a setcpu stress test on it as well as the stock battery and record the results of how long it took each to fully discharge.
FireDemonSiC said:
You know I see alot of talk about these 1600mah batteries from Japan and alot of speculation, but I have never seen anyone do any real world testing. I was planning on buying one of the 1600mah batteries and doing a setcpu stress test on it as well as the stock battery and record the results of how long it took each to fully discharge.
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Do it! If you become the guinea pig and the battery is indeed better, then you would be a hero in these parts lol.
The last battery I bought was a 'genuine' htc 1200mah from an amazon seller, turned out to be a fake that was obviously not htc.
Be careful with testing unknown batteries from unreliable sources, the fake one I had got very hot and was a poor fit into the phone. These phones are very temperature sensative and you would not want a lithium fire inside your HD2!
So is anyone willing to do some battery tests? I would be so happy if I could use a 1600 mAh battery and not need one of those huge, bulky battery covers.
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You should be very careful if you try a battery from an unknown or not certificated source. I read about many cases, where people bought some cheap batteries which turned into a little bomb, because of some reason. and i don't know if i want to end up in a roll chair for my whole life just because of a 20€ cheaper battery. A battery can damage your phone not only by heat. Such batteries have also some extra hard- AND software for controlling purposes integrated and if there's a problem, it could cause other problems in your phone.
The normal 1230mAh battery is not very bad, one day for such a huge display and some other features is enough. and if i have to go to the jungle and can't charge my phone i will buy the bigger battery and won't mind about the thickness of my phone ^^
Just my thinkings
Silberpfeil3110 said:
The normal 1230mAh battery is not very bad, one day for such a huge display and some other features is enough. and if i have to go to the jungle and can't charge my phone i will buy the bigger battery and won't mind about the thickness of my phone ^^
Just my thinkings
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I actually can confirm, I can go with my phone with minimal to moderate use for several days. But when I am at work and playing with it nonstop - 4 hours maximum. That is why I got myself a GTMax battery
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I actually can confirm, I can go with my phone with minimal to moderate use for several days. But when I am at work and playing with it nonstop - 4 hours maximum. That is why I got myself a GTMax battery
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I would also agree with this statement. None-the-less, I ordered one of the 1600mah batteries yesterday. We're gonna have to wait a few weeks for it to clear customs however before I can do any testing.
Not the first...
I have the andida 1600 Ma and it is labeled as Lithium Polymer.
I bought a 1600 mAh labeled battery from eBay which came with very good packaging and even a tin case. The labels on the sticker make it seem fancy and trustworthy. However, in my experience comparing that battery with the stock HTC 1230 mAh battery, there is no increase in uptime. On Aondroid both batteries read 1230 mAh. Even though the 1600 mAh battery claims to have that capacity it really does not. I even weighed both batteries on a scale. The 1600 mAh Li-on battery weighs less than the HTC original battery.
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yassy said:
I bought a 1600 mAh labeled battery from eBay which came with very good packaging and even a tin case. The labels on the sticker make it seem fancy and trustworthy. However, in my experience comparing that battery with the stock HTC 1230 mAh battery, there is no increase in uptime. On Aondroid both batteries read 1230 mAh. Even though the 1600 mAh battery claims to have that capacity it really does not. I even weighed both batteries on a scale. The 1600 mAh Li-on battery weighs less than the HTC original battery.
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It's not possible that a stronger battery is as big as the stock one. most of these people only put another label on a stock battery (or rebuild battery with the same power) and sell it for a higher price. I'm sure you won't get a Li-Ion battery with the same size as the stock one but stronger. With a Li-Po battery it's makeable but not easy and they'll have a higher price because of that.
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It's not possible that a stronger battery is as big as the stock one. most of these people only put another label on a stock battery (or rebuild battery with the same power) and sell it for a higher price. I'm sure you won't get a Li-Ion battery with the same size as the stock one but stronger. With a Li-Po battery it's makeable but not easy and they'll have a higher price because of that.
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The price makes me suspicious as well. I don't notice a lot of difference in device up time with my Andida battery, but it is still new and it may increase as I get past those initial cycles.
... if I don't reflash more NRG ROMs! They give strange readings for the first few battery cycles after a flash. I just flashed one yesterday, so it will be a while before it settles down.
The Chinese knockoff battery got here today. We're about to find out if it can hold It's own once I put it through the first few charge cycles.
It's sad that I'm able to get an 1800 mAh battery for my G2 that isn't appreciably bigger than the stock 1300 mAh, but there's nothing equivalent for my HD2.
Can't you return it. There should be eBay's buyer protectiontion just say buyer gave you the wrong item
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...xperia-x1-1800mah-extra-eros-akkumulator.html
Stock battery physical size, 300mah extra, the Xperia X10 & Xperia Play share the same battery
I prefer Seidio over Mugen but Seidio does not seem to support Sony Ericson devices.
I emailed their office to see if they will make a back for the Xperia Play for their 3600mah battery listed below, I got them to at least forward the request to their R&D department.
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...ed-replacement-battery-with-battery-door.html
Certainly would buy a 3600mah battery, don;t think i'd buy the 1800mah though, maybe when the stock battery gets old after some years.
I much admit I would like a larger battery.
3600 may not be my choice, current xperia play is abit thick... dont want to add on to the back..
highly consider 1800 as it can keep the same size...
but agree with svenk919, will get it when the stock batt is dead
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/sony-ericsson/sony-ericsson-xperia-play-r880i.html
official 3600 mah extended battery with back from mugen-power
are ou tof your mind?!
you guys are crazyy! you are paying so much for such stupid battery and it makes the device look like ****. I say go on ebya and buy 2 of those fake but okay batteries that look jus like the original one and work 75% of the original one. they come with a charger and you can charge phone and an extra battery together. it costs 1/5 of wat you are buying!
although i kno its not fun to open the back panel!
here is one:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/2x-BST-41-Batter...ccessories&hash=item2eb54d88bf#ht_1261wt_1082
or you can get this 5000mah battery that looks good too. u can use it for other phones and stuff as well. ~ even this one is cheaper than that stupid badlooking battery!
http://cgi.ebay.ca/5000-mAh-Externa...Accessories&hash=item2a104b6470#ht_5535wt_849
No sane person is going to carry around an external brick to save money. Additionally, most of us who want a bigger capacity battery don't LIKE carrying additional accessories. I mean, lets be honest. If the 5000mah battery was really an option, I would probaby carry my PSP and a thinner android device around instead. And seriously, 100$ for a 2.5x capacity battery is par for the course. Im not saying that I think thats a fair price, Im just saying, people are prepared to pay setting market value. Not every decision for every person hinges around cost.
Hi guys !
I found this:
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f...1/05/0502/05020127/05020127bluestone001_a.jpg
http://cgi.ebay.fr/New-2300mAh-High...063860?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3cbb478374
The vendor seems to be ok, but the price looks like a joke...
Am i going to be the most happy HD owner or loose 10€ ?
Does anybody try this ?:
AloneInTheDarK said:
Hi guys !
I found this:
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f...1/05/0502/05020127/05020127bluestone001_a.jpg
http://cgi.ebay.fr/New-2300mAh-High...063860?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3cbb478374
The vendor seems to be ok, but the price looks like a joke...
Am i going to be the most happy HD owner or loose 10€ ?
Does anybody try this ?:
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Good find, but I am quite sure it wouldnt give actual 2300mAh. But still, for that price I wonder how much improvement it actually has over stock. I remember the 1600 mAh at best gave about 1400 mAh or there abouts. I would not mind if this gives even slightly more than 50% of the stated capacity. Please let us know if anyone has tested this.
Hell, I'm getting paid in 2 days, and sending my HD2 to repair then, when I get it back, I will buy this battery and review it for you guys.
Though I doubt it's more than 1400mAh, but what the hell.. 13€.
I want to try this out just got a question first, hopefully you guys will know
Do not use inferior charger to recharge this battery in case of damaging the battery.
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Does that mean I have to get another charger or is the stock HD2 charger sufficient?
Bull****.
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this won't have more than original battery.
the andida one is also very good with the same capacity as original and it costs only around 7$. i use mine for almost a year now and it's still good.
rauschkugl said:
this won't have more than original battery.
the andida one is also very good with the same capacity as original and it costs only around 7$. i use mine for almost a year now and it's still good.
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Define good
My battery lasts me about 8-12 hours of moderate use, and 4-6 of heavy use/no service use
I would call that good for what my phone can do, but of course I'd like better
dion20 said:
I want to try this out just got a question first, hopefully you guys will know
Does that mean I have to get another charger or is the stock HD2 charger sufficient?
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What that probably means is this battery has a very poor charge control circuit/temp sensor.
For cheap good batteries try the well tested brands: Andida & Momax .
Andida & Momax represent good quality for the money. I have used Andida & they have been as good as original. Just purchased a Momax for HD2 while in Hong Kong as read good remarks in posts here at XDA ... Buying cheap unknown junk from ebay with obvious overstated product details is just stupid, do not support these idiots by buying there useless low quality junk that they call products.
The feedback from crimebay mugs:
Evaluations neutres Does not last long , even after several chargings
Evaluations neutres standard battery time nothing special .
Evaluations neutres Battery capacity/life poor. Second battery the same. mAh less than stated!
Evaluations neutres never arrives the battery
Evaluations neutres the battery lasts less than 1000 mah
Evaluations neutres one battery didn't work
Evaluations négatives It was damaged to repair. broken batteries destroyed.
Evaluations négatives The battery offers far less then the offered capacity!!!
Evaluations négatives the battery is not even 1150mah
eBay should be prosecuted for its roll in enabling a trading platform for fake & fraudulent spec products ...
Mister B said:
What that probably means is this battery has a very poor charge control circuit/temp sensor.
For cheap good batteries try the well tested brands: Andida & Momax .
Andida & Momax represent good quality for the money. I have used Andida & they have been as good as original. Just purchased a Momax for HD2 while in Hong Kong as read good remarks in posts here at XDA ... Buying cheap unknown junk from ebay with obvious overstated product details is just stupid, do not support these idiots by buying there useless low quality junk that they call products.
The feedback from crimebay mugs:
Evaluations neutres Does not last long , even after several chargings
Evaluations neutres standard battery time nothing special .
Evaluations neutres Battery capacity/life poor. Second battery the same. mAh less than stated!
Evaluations neutres never arrives the battery
Evaluations neutres the battery lasts less than 1000 mah
Evaluations neutres one battery didn't work
Evaluations négatives It was damaged to repair. broken batteries destroyed.
Evaluations négatives The battery offers far less then the offered capacity!!!
Evaluations négatives the battery is not even 1150mah
eBay should be prosecuted for its roll in enabling a trading platform for fake & fraudulent spec products ...
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i will not believe to comments on ebay. i ordered mine few days ago and i will leave a feedback here.
hi there, well i m looking for a better battery, mine s getting low quickly.
i just bought this one on ebay after reading this post. I ll give you my opinion at reception
hope it will be fine...
Heres a Momax on eBay with world shipping included:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Momax-X-L...835895?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item20bbed2af7
I purchased a momax in HK to test, in my opinion the X-level performs same as my HD2 Andida ... Bonus with Momax is they do not Bull**** on capacity & you can feel confident cell quality & charge protection circuitry is adequate too.
Andida was the best cheap budget battery & well tested within XDA community.
I purchased Andida direct in HK for around $7 US & they are working fine.
A colleage purchased an Andida for his old Topaz via ebay seller snow9white. Total price with shipping was $9.45 US & he has been very happy with the battery over the last 6 months of use ...
Will try to check it out next week!
I receive mine
So,
First, surprise to find my batterie today...
Another surprise, the weight is like the original, maybe more heavy...
(i'll try to find a digital balance)
Third,surprise she work, and more than a quarter...
So i'll put her in my phone a 4PM and it's work fine for now...
I'll keep you inform !
Sorry formy bad English
New batteries tend to have better standby time, even the one has less capacity.
So try draining your battery by watching YouTube or some intensive gaming, it should tell the difference.
AloneInTheDarK said:
So,
First, surprise to find my batterie today...
Another surprise, the weight is like the original, maybe more heavy...
(i'll try to find a digital balance)
Third,surprise she work, and more than a quarter...
So i'll put her in my phone a 4PM and it's work fine for now...
I'll keep you inform !
Sorry formy bad English
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sofiz.co.uk said:
New batteries tend to have better standby time, even the one has less capacity.
So try draining your battery by watching YouTube or some intensive gaming, it should tell the difference.
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Better yet, drain it by let running Netflix for a whole movie and that should kill it fast enough.
So is there such a thing as a larger mah cell at the standard thickness at any price or are they all the same?
FYI, I bought this battery (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Extended-30...Accessories&hash=item3a65fb4a24#ht_1885wt_952) which claims to be a 3000mAh.
I have used it for a while (2 weeks), and have to say that I am quite pleased with it. With 3g, wifi and auto-brightness on, I managed to get 32 hours of usage. This includes talking on the phone for 2 hours+, browsing on net 2 hours and 30 minutes of listening to music. I think it is more like 2000mAh. Certainly much longer than the original.
I am using Dorimanx's ROM, OC and UV, screebl and juice defender beta. Hope this helps others to make an informed purchase. Got his for less than USD10 including shipping. My best deal yet.
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So is there such a thing as a larger mah cell at the standard thickness at any price or are they all the same?
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Almost all are the same at standard size.
Li-ion technology can not physically pack much more capacity into a cell of the HD2 size.
Mugen produced a standard sized cell at around 1500Mah & that was the best they could manage using quality cells & construction.
Claims of 1600, 1700 or even 2000+Mah of the magical Gold Business batteries are simply bull**** & fraudulent in an attempt to rob you of some cash for rubbish goods.
Best options for budget is Andida & Momax x-level, x-level may give about 5% more, Andida is about same as new original. Mugen may be an option if you don't mind paying high prices, around $39 US if still available.
Feipusi is another brand seen around Asia Pacific area, they rate at 1600Mah for standard size HD2 replacement but reality is standard Mah but quality is ok for less than $10 battery.
If you need double capacity you will need a cell almost double in size too, that's the reality so don't be fooled by these sellers marketing tactics.
There's one available from Lenmar having 1230mAh capacity for HD2 available for about $20...
I think it should be good as Lenmar is a good company
erlern said:
FYI, I bought this battery (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Extended-30...Accessories&hash=item3a65fb4a24#ht_1885wt_952) which claims to be a 3000mAh.
I have used it for a while (2 weeks), and have to say that I am quite pleased with it. With 3g, wifi and auto-brightness on, I managed to get 32 hours of usage. This includes talking on the phone for 2 hours+, browsing on net 2 hours and 30 minutes of listening to music. I think it is more like 2000mAh. Certainly much longer than the original.
I am using Dorimanx's ROM, OC and UV, screebl and juice defender beta. Hope this helps others to make an informed purchase. Got his for less than USD10 including shipping. My best deal yet.
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Open that battery and you will find in there a 1,200mah battery and some foam to fill the empty space inside the big housing. I seen this before with cell phone batteries and even Sony PSP batteries sold on Ebay.
It's a shame those Chinese guys manufacture fake and less than advertised charging capacity.
BTW- I have that battery and the charge is not that great, gave it to my 13yrs son so he can play with this HD2.
Has anyone tried this GOLD 2430MAH BUSINESS BATTERY FOR DELL STREAK MINI 5 battery here? (Just check it out on ebay, i can't link it because i'm a new user)
Wondering if its worth getting it or if I should just get a cheaper pack with a charger and 3x 1800mAh batteries? Mainly looking for an extra battery to take with me on long car trips so I can use the phone more like a tablet, but I wouldn't hate having a longer lasting battery for daily use either and then using the stock battery as my extra.
Parasitic said:
Has anyone tried this GOLD 2430MAH BUSINESS BATTERY FOR DELL STREAK MINI 5 battery here? (Just check it out on ebay, i can't link it because i'm a new user)
Wondering if its worth getting it or if I should just get a cheaper pack with a charger and 3x 1800mAh batteries? Mainly looking for an extra battery to take with me on long car trips so I can use the phone more like a tablet, but I wouldn't hate having a longer lasting battery for daily use either and then using the stock battery as my extra.
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this looks interesting..one thing good about it , is that is the same size as the original dell battery.
I think its a fake capacity, the largest capacity that fits as standard size offered by a decent battery manufacturer, Mugen Power is 1800mah, and if you read the threads here, there is a 2400mah extended battery that has to use a custom battery cover because the battery is twice the depth of the standard battery.
So, i think you will find its not really a 2430mah battery, but a 1800mah battery at best.
if it seems too good to be true...
The best bet is to get one of those external battery packs with 3000-6000mah and a spare cable.
Also be agressive in your control of screen brightness and data use
If you read the feedbacks of that seller on eBay. There are heaps of negative feedbacks from buyers calling him a CON.
I bought off amazon since it had to be shipped to India... think there was only 1 seller in Amazon and he seems genuine.
There's a point with batteries where to make them any more powerful you must make them bigger. If fitting 2430ma into an 1800ma package was possible Mugen would have done it, so yes the rating is a lie.
REF: Gold Battery 2430mAh on eBay...
Total fake and ripoff!! ...so dont be wasting your money...
Here, read "all about it" from my experience in another parallel forae - "conclusion" after testing, on post #21: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305779
Parasitic said:
Has anyone tried this GOLD 2430MAH BUSINESS BATTERY FOR DELL STREAK MINI 5 battery here? (Just check it out on ebay, i can't link it because i'm a new user)
Wondering if its worth getting it or if I should just get a cheaper pack with a charger and 3x 1800mAh batteries? Mainly looking for an extra battery to take with me on long car trips so I can use the phone more like a tablet, but I wouldn't hate having a longer lasting battery for daily use either and then using the stock battery as my extra.
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Sorry. Thought you asked for the regular 2400mah.
hi, i bought this battery 2 mounth ago and my phone authonomy is double now. so dont coment if you dodnt try!
Do dell sell them?
Probably a con, but what the heck… I just purchased it. If it’s not 'as stated', I’ll report the bugger.
could keep us posted about this, i looked at the seller's feedback and seems it is fake but wondering if that is true.
The Americans have a saying "You can't put a quart in a pint pot" and that applies to battery power as well. Don't waste your money.
Irritatingly, battery capacity is only shown on the battery itself and not in the device’s battery info. So, is it really 2430mah? Don’t know. But there IS a difference. The 1530mah stock battery ran out of juice alarmingly quickly – like falling off a cliff - when at 30-40%, yet ‘Business Battery’ allows heavy use (downloads, browsing, video… etc) right down to single digits. So now I can use Streak much more (I’d say several hours more of constant use) when battery level is below 50% without worrying if it’s going to suddenly die on me. No gain between 100-50%, though.
I was prepared to slag this off, but from my experience it’s genuinely longer-lasting, especially at low battery levels. How long the battery itself will last only time will tell.
I’m not prepared to test it against Mugen’s 1800mah and spend near 30 quid (plus £18 p&p) in the process.
I've read elsewhere that the cheap Chinese batteries often don't report the available power in as many steps as a 'proper' one does, so they appear to fall slower.
I don't know how old your Dell battery is but it might not be as good as it used to be when new.
Yep, I had to replace the Dell battery (after about 10 months use) because over the past week it became completely unstable – dropping to 70% after 30min use, suddenly back up to 95%, and plummeting from then on. But the stock battery right from the start was always weakest when two-thirds empty, and it drained juice even on standby. Last night it was 100% or ‘fully charged’ for over 3 hours (mostly on standby and some light doc editing)… that had never happened before.
The thing is actually stamped ‘made in Japan’… aren’t Japanese products supposed to be expensive? Looks suspect, but whatever. If it becomes unstable after a month or two then sure, I’ll invest in a nice new Mugen or Dell replacement. But as of now I’m fairly content with a £13 Ecell batt.
Got one of these last week, & have put it through a few recharge cycles etc, unfortunately, it's no better than the stock battery
Oh well, it was worth a try..
As with all cheap batteries it has a short life - no more than 2 or 3 months before it starts to rapidly drain. As a temporary and inexpensive solution it's fine, but don’t expect long-lasting quality.
hey guyz
i bought this battery from ebay with 2600 mah
is it fake???
and if it isn't how could i calibrate it (am using android from nand)
sorry for my bad english
Well chances of it being 2600mAh are unlikely, if lucky it maybe 1700mAh.
Also kernal of your ROM need to be capable of handling over capacity batteries, for that refer to your ROM thread.
Mister B said:
Well chances of it being 2600mAh are unlikely, if lucky it maybe 1700mAh.
Also kernal of your ROM need to be capable of handling over capacity batteries, for that refer to your ROM thread.
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ahaaa. ic
thanx buddy for ur quick responding
i should buy 2300 original......
I have the extended battery just like this. It claims to be 2300mah and after a few cycles my battery widget says its estimated to be 2300mah (with 30% margin of error).
All extended sized batteries I've tested have shown to be over 2000+ mah and have given me more than double standby time.
If the battery is standard sized and claims over 1600mah then suspect BS.
Most of the cheaper oversized batteries tested by members on XDA came out at 1700mAh.
Peeling the sticker will lead to the truth.
Is a thread on this with a selection of oversized batteries & the true capacities.
Well I have owned 5 extended batterys in my time.
2 for HD2
2 for WildfireS
1 for Dash
All of them costed below £10.
All of them had seen my phone pass 30hrs.
My typical standby with normal batteries is around 11hrs.
My WildfireS extended bat topic.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296297
Going from OP supplied picture of of black/silver label style found on eBay & amazon most are tested well below claimed mAh
I have tested many myself & delt with resources in China that make them.
From 11hrs to past 30hrs is 3X over standard, that would equate to 3000mAh plus, no chance of 3000mAh cell & cover for £10.
You get what you pay for & when it's Chinese products & eBay/Amazon getting what you pay for is a gamble with poor odds.
so how could i calibrate it??????????
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Going from OP supplied picture of of black/silver label style found on eBay & amazon most are tested well below claimed mAhFrom 11hrs to past 30hrs is 3X over standard, that would equate to 3000mAh plus, no chance of 3000mAh cell & cover for £10.
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You have to account for night time which is about 8 hours of no activity meaning little drain.
Thats fake around 1700Mah i guess