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Gee, I cannot wait until all the senior members rip me a new one and say "if you'da just searched _____ you'd find it" or something similar I'm not THAT dumb, I DO perform some research to the best of my ability, but not all the time do I find exactly what I'm looking for, so please, just save it for a rainy day people...
THE QUESTION THOUGH:
Through XDAs homepage I noticed there's many posts for APKs being released for apps (mainly through APK Mirror)
What I am trying to find out is:
1) Since most of the APKs I am interested in are just more current/updated versions of their Play Store counterparts (ie - Facebook that I have currently is version 33.xxx.xxx downloaded from Play Store yet version 35.xxxx is available through APK Mirror) do I have to manually keep sideloading APKs in order to update these apps or will they self-update somehow?
2) Spotify is another example I have in question - if I uninstall it from my phone (nexus 6) then download and install the APK from APK MIrror does Play Store register that I have it installed on my phone and list it under "My Apps" and update it when the Play Store version that's available surpasses my sideloaded APK version?
I appreciate all your assistance.
organick87 said:
Gee, I cannot wait until all the senior members rip me a new one and say "if you'da just searched _____ you'd find it" or something similar I'm not THAT dumb, I DO perform some research to the best of my ability, but not all the time do I find exactly what I'm looking for, so please, just save it for a rainy day people...
THE QUESTION THOUGH:
Through XDAs homepage I noticed there's many posts for APKs being released for apps (mainly through APK Mirror)
What I am trying to find out is:
1) Since most of the APKs I am interested in are just more current/updated versions of their Play Store counterparts (ie - Facebook that I have currently is version 33.xxx.xxx downloaded from Play Store yet version 35.xxxx is available through APK Mirror) do I have to manually keep sideloading APKs in order to update these apps or will they self-update somehow?
2) Spotify is another example I have in question - if I uninstall it from my phone (nexus 6) then download and install the APK from APK MIrror does Play Store register that I have it installed on my phone and list it under "My Apps" and update it when the Play Store version that's available surpasses my sideloaded APK version?
I appreciate all your assistance.
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first off, questions go into the q&a/help section, not into the general section.
if you install an app not from the play store, then you have to keep updating it that way. only if you install through tbe play store will the play store see your app, and let you update it.
organick87 said:
Gee, I cannot wait until all the senior members rip me a new one and say "if you'da just searched _____ you'd find it" or something similar I'm not THAT dumb, I DO perform some research to the best of my ability, but not all the time do I find exactly what I'm looking for, so please, just save it for a rainy day people...
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You could just say "I've searched and couldn't find an answer" rather than being confrontational.
organick87 said:
Through XDAs homepage I noticed there's many posts for APKs being released for apps (mainly through APK Mirror)
What I am trying to find out is:
1) Since most of the APKs I am interested in are just more current/updated versions of their Play Store counterparts (ie - Facebook that I have currently is version 33.xxx.xxx downloaded from Play Store yet version 35.xxxx is available through APK Mirror) do I have to manually keep sideloading APKs in order to update these apps or will they self-update somehow?
2) Spotify is another example I have in question - if I uninstall it from my phone (nexus 6) then download and install the APK from APK MIrror does Play Store register that I have it installed on my phone and list it under "My Apps" and update it when the Play Store version that's available surpasses my sideloaded APK version?
I appreciate all your assistance.
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If the app fingerprint matches, it will show in play. It probably won't let you update it though. For example I bought office suite pro from Amazon. It shows me that its installed in play but I can only update via amazonm
thank you.
rootSU said:
You could just say "I've searched and couldn't find an answer" rather than being confrontational.
If the app fingerprint matches, it will show in play. It probably won't let you update it though. For example I bought office suite pro from Amazon. It shows me that its installed in play but I can only update via amazonm
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I suppose beginning my question as I did was indeed confrontational, however, I felt as if I needed to because there's ALWAYS someone there to make people feel like garbage for asking questions and since I'm new I felt as if I needed to defend myself beforehand.
organick87 said:
I suppose beginning my question as I did was indeed confrontational, however, I felt as if I needed to because there's ALWAYS someone there to make people feel like garbage for asking questions and since I'm new I felt as if I needed to defend myself beforehand.
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And unfortunately they are right most of the time though putting people down isn`t intended i`am sure, thats how you experience it. You turn to people with a question who read up and aquire some skills during time and you defend yourself by saying i`am new here and did almost no research to find the answer to my question. You cannot tell me that on the WWW there isn`t an answer too your question
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if you install an app not from the play store, then you have to keep updating it that way. only if you install through tbe play store will the play store see your app, and let you update it.
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Here's a question along those lines - You update say GP Maps thru apkmirror. That's the same sig as in the store, my question is if one "pre-loads" it from the APK by sideloading, and it shares the same signature, why later on would I receive another "update" within GPS for it for the version I already installed by APK?
That would lead me to believe the sig's are not exact.
I am looking for reviews or overall first impression of the $50 tablet. I went to Best Buy to play with one, but sadly it was locked to Demo mode and reps didn't know if we can exit.
It has quad core, but I am not sure if it's actually snappier than earlier kindle fire tablets.
I've had it about 2 hours so far. I currently own a note 4 and a galaxy pro 10 inch tab. This is my first "reader". I need a little time to get to know it. But, so far, so good. Now, I just have to root this little puppy.
Just got mine today....all I can say is that the battery life is not bad. 100% charged and dropped to 57% after my son watch videos for a few hours. Got the kids Edition. Will try and root the tablet tomorrow, if I brick the thing beyond repair, I can always take up Amazon 2 years no question guarantee
elmo257 said:
Just got mine today....all I can say is that the battery life is not bad. 100% charged and dropped to 57% after my son watch videos for a few hours. Got the kids Edition. Will try and root the tablet tomorrow, if I brick the thing beyond repair, I can always take up Amazon 2 years no question guarantee
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Got mine on Wednesday and i'm looking forward to read your experience about rooting it...
Received 6 in the mail yesterday! So far I like the feel but rooting would be fantastic.
I started playing with mine this morning. I was able to get the Google Play store to load (with full connectivity!) after downloading the Google Services from the play store using APK downloader. I also downloaded the latest Play Store version from apkmirror. The only issue I saw was that it didn't recognize my purchases on the play store app. If I go through my PC to the app store in Chrome or whatnot, I can send the purchased apps to the kindle fire. My only qualm so far is that the volume with headphones in seems kinda low.
To get an idea of how to get google play working, check out this link: http://kindlefireforkid.com/how-to-setup-a-google-account-on-amazon-fire-tablet/. The only thing to replace to get it working is the Google Play Services, which you can download from the play store using APK Downloader (Chrome and Firefox Addon).
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I started playing with mine this morning. I was able to get the Google Play store to load (with full connectivity!) after downloading the Google Services from the play store using APK downloader. I also downloaded the latest Play Store version from apkmirror. The only issue I saw was that it didn't recognize my purchases on the play store app. If I go through my PC to the app store in Chrome or whatnot, I can send the purchased apps to the kindle fire. My only qualm so far is that the volume with headphones in seems kinda low.
To get an idea of how to get google play working, check out this link: http://kindlefireforkid.com/how-to-setup-a-google-account-on-amazon-fire-tablet/. The only thing to replace to get it working is the Google Play Services, which you can download from the play store using APK Downloader (Chrome and Firefox Addon).
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Did the initial sign in process take a bit? Mine is still loading...
No it didn't take too long...I did do a reboot before installing the Play Store though, so you may want to uninstall, clear out caches and try again
Yeah all my apks won't install. They just say app not installed.
The play store apk does and play services does but framework and account manager do not
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No it didn't take too long...I did do a reboot before installing the Play Store though, so you may want to uninstall, clear out caches and try again
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So I got it to work. Also, all my purchases show up now
Did you have to do something extra to get it to work? Here's a link to the files I used (including the Google Services apk from the Play Store): http://bit.ly/1LZaetI. Here's the order I installed them:
1. com.google.android.gms.apk
2. GoogleLoginService.apk
3. GoogleServicesFramework.apk
After those 3 are installed, reboot. After the reboot install PlayStore_v5.9.12.apk
I didn't clear any caches or anything to get it working. Good luck!
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Did you have to do something extra to get it to work? Here's a link to the files I used (including the Google Services apk from the Play Store): http://bit.ly/1LZaetI. Here's the order I installed them:
1. com.google.android.gms.apk
2. GoogleLoginService.apk
3. GoogleServicesFramework.apk
After those 3 are installed, reboot. After the reboot install PlayStore_v5.9.12.apk
I didn't clear any caches or anything to get it working. Good luck!
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I also installed Google Account Manager, so I don't know if that made my purchases show up or not but it worked.
Anyone able to add a second account to Google Docs apps?
Everything worked fine. Now I can use the google apps normally
EDIT: everything worked on W8.1, but not in W10...
Any ideas on rooting or link to do so?
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Any ideas on rooting or link to do so?
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I'm sure if someone roots their amazon Fire 5th Gen they will post in the 5th Gen forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/help
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Has anyone been able to get Cortana to work on the new 5.x.x? I was able to put the apk on my older non rooted kindle with 4.5 it does not show up in the google play store when installed and the program crashes after I begin to set it up.
I was able to get Cortana en-us.1.0.0.224 version to work, hopefully new updates will work.
This notification keeps on popping, I already searched for solution in the net but it is till persisting. I tried clearing GPS cache and data, FC GPS, restart, manually updated the app and downloading from apkmirror the latest. Also tried updating from PS but it says it is up to date and my only option in PS Is to deactivate GPS.
All Google apps are working like playstore, Google search and etc.
I'm on stock, non rooted, exynos, SM-950F/DS, on latest security patch. I'm using swift installer fully updated.
Why did not you update google play services directly from play store? I have had bad experiences with substratum and other theming tools, they create some problems when updating firmwares and some other apps and components, it is mandatory to uninstall ALL the theming and overlay elements when updating system components
denclaud said:
This notification keeps on popping, I already searched for solution in the net but it is till persisting. I tried clearing GPS cache and data, FC GPS, restart, manually updated the app and downloading from apkmirror the latest. Also tried updating from PS but it says it is up to date and my only option in PS Is to deactivate GPS.
All Google apps are working like playstore, Google search and etc.
I'm on stock, non rooted, exynos, SM-950F/DS, on latest security patch. I'm using swift installer fully updated.
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Win is right. You need to go through the official play store. Google beefed up its security to keep malicious apps and pirated apps off any phones. So its caused problems when your trying to update system apps from a 3rd party source. The best thing is to find a full most recent gapps package that includes play store and play store services and id use adb. I dont know if it would work but thats my suggestion.
winol said:
Why did not you update google play services directly from play store? I have had bad experiences with substratum and other theming tools, they create some problems when updating firmwares and some other apps and components, it is mandatory to uninstall ALL the theming and overlay elements when updating system components
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I did try to update it in PS but upon searching there is no update in PS. My Google Play Services is up to date but a notification keeps on saying I need to update it. Upon searching, there is really an update not showing on my PS.
Shadow Assassin said:
Win is right. You need to go through the official play store. Google beefed up its security to keep malicious apps and pirated apps off any phones. So its caused problems when your trying to update system apps from a 3rd party source. The best thing is to find a full most recent gapps package that includes play store and play store services and id use adb. I dont know if it would work but thats my suggestion.
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As I've said in my previous reply.
I did try to update it in PS but upon searching there is no update in PS. My Google Play Services is up to date but a notification keeps on saying I need to update it.
I can't seem to make ADB work in my laptop so that's not an option for me.
denclaud said:
As I've said in my previous reply.
I did try to update it in PS but upon searching there is no update in PS. My Google Play Services is up to date but a notification keeps on saying I need to update it.
I can't seem to make ADB work in my laptop so that's not an option for me.
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I had that problem once on a LG G3.
I found out that the play store and play services was not compatible with my device. Cause some apps, even play store are tweaked differently for some phones. I had to find one that was report as working just fine with my phone and had to double check that the play services was the right one for the version of play store that was in the package.
Hi Guys,
Just unpacked my new fire hd8.
Did anyone already successfully install the play store on this Android 7 based device?
Would it work to simply try fetching the usual files from Nugat and install them?
Thanks for your help
lxmeta said:
Hi Guys,
Just unpacked my new fire hd8.
Did anyone already successfully install the play store on this Android 7 based device?
Would it work to simply try fetching the usual files from Nugat and install them?
Thanks for your help
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ok, just gave it a try:
Google Services Framework and Google Account Manager 7.1.2
Google Play services 14.3.66 64bit nodpi
Google Play store 11.9.14-all
After starting Google Play the Fire insisted on installing nee Google Play services. I let it do it's job.
So far it worked. I can install apps.
I'm getting it on Saturday. How is it performing?
Can you post a picture of your Fire HD 8 with Google Play working?
MishaalRahman said:
Can you post a picture of your Fire HD 8 with Google Play working?
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Let's try this one, as I neither can upload images nor post regular links yet "https://1drv.ms/f/s!AlBLD_fEYNd1xQL44nzSLry-EZoM"
DKXC said:
I'm getting it on Saturday. How is it performing?
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Quite ok, much faster than the older Fire 7 I had, and gave up on.
It is very usable. Downloaded quite a few apps now, and most perform well.
Only my local newspaper app still causes issue when logging in, but this app isn't working well in real live too..
lxmeta said:
Quite ok, much faster than the older Fire 7 I had, and gave up on.
It is very usable. Downloaded quite a few apps now, and most perform well.
Only my local newspaper app still causes issue when logging in, but this app isn't working well in real live too..
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Yep I have a Fire 7, 5th generation. Disabled some bloat and removed lockscreen ads, it performs /okay/ now, but great to hear that the new Fire 8 performs good! Excited to test it out on Saturday.
lxmeta said:
ok, just gave it a try:
Google Services Framework and Google Account Manager 7.1.2
Google Play services 14.3.66 64bit nodpi
Google Play store 11.9.14-all
After starting Google Play the Fire insisted on installing nee Google Play services. I let it do it's job.
So far it worked. I can install apps.
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Quick update. Realised that I was sloppy on the OS version: After the initial update it's 6.3.0.1. A reasonably clean Android 7.something
So far pretty much everything seems to work as wished. I usually install apps from the fire store if available, and then from play if I don't have the choice.
I have now Chrome, hangouts, hangouts meet, both with two accounts (enterprise and personal). Goole Play Music, Canon Camera Remote (Fuji is on the fire store) etc running.
Also my microsoft account works well, no issues with onedrive etc... For Skype I'm using the Kindle version.
One note: don't forget to enable the lock screen if you want to add a google enterprise account. Otherwise it will simply fail to log on, without a direct useful error message!
So I got my new Tablet yesterday, loaded it up today with the exact versions you list above, it lets me log in, but then kicks me out of the play store and asks me to log in again... Hope this isn't anything to do with 2FA or anything, but I can't figure out how to stay logged in and install apps...
Edit: Yeah, it lets me login, accept the terms, then goes right back to Checking info... Which leads to the login page...
Thought I had it with a factory reset, got a few apps installed, but now won't stay logged in again...
Google Play services won't run unless you update Google Play services
Has anyone run into this on the newest version of the Fire HD 8? I go to update Google Play services and it says it is 'installing' forever (well... it hasn't stopped yet at least... I've forced stopped it a few times, and tried again, but nothing) I've tried the most up to date guide on here (October 4th 2018) and this still sits here waiting on installing services... which stuff like Google Play Books needs... I mostly want GPB because I store a lot of books on Google, and this is a great little reading device.
JSunsurn said:
Has anyone run into this on the newest version of the Fire HD 8? I go to update Google Play services and it says it is 'installing' forever (well... it hasn't stopped yet at least... I've forced stopped it a few times, and tried again, but nothing) I've tried the most up to date guide on here (October 4th 2018) and this still sits here waiting on installing services... which stuff like Google Play Books needs... I mostly want GPB because I store a lot of books on Google, and this is a great little reading device.
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I've been getting this message as well except it hasnt actually seemed to cause any errors. i tested google play books and it works fine for me
BilboSwaggins69 said:
I've been getting this message as well except it hasnt actually seemed to cause any errors. i tested google play books and it works fine for me
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Strange Google Play Books won't even install unless Google Play Services gets updated. Thanks though.
PSULightingGuy said:
So I got my new Tablet yesterday, loaded it up today with the exact versions you list above, it lets me log in, but then kicks me out of the play store and asks me to log in again... Hope this isn't anything to do with 2FA or anything, but I can't figure out how to stay logged in and install apps...
Edit: Yeah, it lets me login, accept the terms, then goes right back to Checking info... Which leads to the login page...
Thought I had it with a factory reset, got a few apps installed, but now won't stay logged in again...
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I've got the exact same problems on my new fire HD
Same problem! Repeat loop and back to sign in.
JSunsurn said:
Has anyone run into this on the newest version of the Fire HD 8? I go to update Google Play services and it says it is 'installing' forever (well... it hasn't stopped yet at least... I've forced stopped it a few times, and tried again, but nothing) I've tried the most up to date guide on here (October 4th 2018) and this still sits here waiting on installing services... which stuff like Google Play Books needs... I mostly want GPB because I store a lot of books on Google, and this is a great little reading device.
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Did you check which versions are now on your tablet?
Did you try to do an update of all apps on the Amazon Store first, and then on the Google play store? Make sure you are not "updating" any apps that are originally from the Amazon store, like Alexa (causing issues).
Can you log into your google account from the silk webbrowser?
Everything works pretty well on my tablet. I only had to download the Amazon Alexa app again from the Amazon store, after the play store had "updated" the original version, which caused it to crash.
Same issue continuous login loop
lxmeta said:
Did you check which versions are now on your tablet?
Did you try to do an update of all apps on the Amazon Store first, and then on the Google play store? Make sure you are not "updating" any apps that are originally from the Amazon store, like Alexa (causing issues).
Can you log into your google account from the silk webbrowser?
Everything works pretty well on my tablet. I only had to download the Amazon Alexa app again from the Amazon store, after the play store had "updated" the original version, which caused it to crash.
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I can login to Google in Silk.
All versions are the following:
Google Services Framework and Google Account Manager 7.1.2
Google Play services 14.3.66 64bit nodpi (040400-213742215)
Google Play store 11.9.14-all 214884739
I have dual factor authentication on my Google account which requires me saying yes to an authorization prompt on my phone.
That seems to work though because after that I am prompted in the Google Play app with terms of service. When I accept them, it goes back to the login prompt, requiring me to enter my credentials again. This loop didn't end even after five attempts.
lxmeta said:
Did you check which versions are now on your tablet?
Did you try to do an update of all apps on the Amazon Store first, and then on the Google play store? Make sure you are not "updating" any apps that are originally from the Amazon store, like Alexa (causing issues).
Can you log into your google account from the silk webbrowser?
Everything works pretty well on my tablet. I only had to download the Amazon Alexa app again from the Amazon store, after the play store had "updated" the original version, which caused it to crash.
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Just checked the Silk Browser and Amazon updates, same problem remains. Checked multiple times that I've got the right versions for this tablet, same result. Login Loop, can't get into the play store anymore and wants to update Play Services, but can't... About ready to return it and get a real Android tablet instead...
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Just checked the Silk Browser and Amazon updates, same problem remains. Checked multiple times that I've got the right versions for this tablet, same result. Login Loop, can't get into the play store anymore and wants to update Play Services, but can't... About ready to return it and get a real Android tablet instead...
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If you need something now return it and look elsewhere. Otherwise look for a workaround in the coming weeks. This doesn't feel like a showstopper issue.
PSULightingGuy said:
Just checked the Silk Browser and Amazon updates, same problem remains. Checked multiple times that I've got the right versions for this tablet, same result. Login Loop, can't get into the play store anymore and wants to update Play Services, but can't... About ready to return it and get a real Android tablet instead...
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Sorry to hear. Looks like something is behaving differently on your Fire.
You could try a complete reset and do it all over again if you are feeling adventurous.. Though I have heard that doing the same thing all over again and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity
I do not 2FA on my google account, so that could have triggered it.
btw.: Did you also have the message about updating google play service after google play store the first time? Apparently my google play services framework still seems to have the same version number... Just looking for things that went differently on your setup.
Returning sounds like a good plan if an android tablet is what you really want.
According to this article, Google apps are not supposed to work on the newest Amazon devices. It also mentions something called "Yalp Store" which might be interesting.
https://android.gadgethacks.com/new...-amazon-no-more-android-apps-fire-os-0183744/
Also: I am not sure if the Launcher Hijack apk v.3 is working on the new Fire 8, but I found a new launcher called "Flick Launcher" which allows you to set a custom action for the home button. Set the home button to open Flick Launcher (open itself), and it will go to home screen. It will require the pro version which is $2.50. I don't have a Fire 8 8th gen to test it on, but it does work on my Fire 7 7th gen, and my Moto E Play. It's very slow getting to the home screen on the Fire 7, which has Lollipop, but it's a lot faster on my phone, which has Oreo, so it might be faster on Nougat. I am not sure if this is a definite solution, but it could be.