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So who is leaving N1 for G2

With the new release of G2 I am sure there are many of n1 users looking to upgrade. Who is in? I don't need a hardware keyboard. I like the slim n1. Prob wait for the real nexus two. I wonder what is the full spec on the new G2? Whatcha think?
Edit: 800mhz say what? You guys sure u want to upgrade.
http://t-mobilescoop.com/HSPADEVICE
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not yet...
I am not going to leave for the g2 untill january, or at least until the gingerbread phones start rolling out, but if there isn't anything spectacular...which there most likely will be...I will be trading the nexus for the g2

800 MHz? No thanks.

Not Me...what would I do with a slide out keyboard

The only thing I'd really like is HSPA+, though my city probably won't get it for a few months. Other than that, I don't see anything overwhelming with the G2. Don't need a hardware keyboard now that I'm used to virtual keyboard and Swype... The Adreno 205 GPU is also something else I'd like. I think I'll just wait until early next year to see what other HSPA+ phones come out.

rickytenzer said:
800 MHz? No thanks.
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It's an underclocked proc from what I hear. Clock speed isn't everything. It's more about how efficient the proc is in one clock cycle. From the sound of things (aka rumors so far), It's going to have some pretty damn sweet features. It's the successor to the first Android device! It can't fail
I'm not necessarily LEAVING the Nexus, but I'm seriously debating picking one of these bad boys up

uansari1 said:
The only thing I'd really like is HSPA+, though my city probably won't get it for a few months. Other than that, I don't see anything overwhelming with the G2. Don't need a hardware keyboard now that I'm used to virtual keyboard and Swype... The Adreno 205 GPU is also something else I'd like. I think I'll just wait until early next year to see what other HSPA+ phones come out.
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How does that GPU compare to the one in Galaxy S?

Nice looking phone, but no. I will need something soon to replace this collectors item though.

As much as i would love to have a g2 to continue the legacy I think I will stick with the sexy nexy
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LevitateJay said:
How does that GPU compare to the one in Galaxy S?
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Adreno 205
Now everyone knows that HTC G2 (also known as HTC Vision, HTC Vanguard, HTC G1 Blaze and HTC Desire Z) will feature Snapdragon MSM7230 chipset which uses Adreno 205.
Adreno 205 features:
Hardware-accelerated SVG and Adobe Flash®
Significant improvements in shader performance over Adreno 200 GPU
Streaming textures that can combine video, camera, SVG and other image surfaces with 3D graphics
Based on the early benchmark results, Adreno 205 is expected to be about four times faster than Adreno 200. Samsung's Hummingbird with PowerVR SGX540 is expected to beat Adreno 205 by a small margin, however. Still, given that nothing touches the performance of SGX540 today (that's right, iPhone 4 is not even close!), this is quite an improvement. Also, this thread proves that
Interesting to note that Adreno has hardware-accelerated support for Adobe Flash. Are we going to see much smoother movies in action on this platform?
Will Snapdragon QSD8x60 and QSD8672 use this GPU as well? Perhaps at a higher clock speed? These are dual-core chipsets running at 1.2GHz and 1.5GHz respectively. Rumored phones such as HTC Glacier (also known as HTC Emerald) and HTC Scorpion are expected to use these chipsets. If we are lucky, we may get to see some of these phones during 2010.

Blueman's List of phones that will get him to leave his current Nexus One:
Another Nexus One
Emerald
Nexus 2
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At 1GHz or higher I would have bought one on release day. Now I plan on waiting for some reviews and opinions after it has been out for a month or two. I really would like a hardware keyboard but the absence of | and \ diminishes its usefulness for me.
The other mitigating factor is the rumored dual core Glacier on the horizon. I am interested in seeing how that one shapes up.

I'm buying the phone release date hopefully. It's only clocked at 800ghz so I'm guessing it'll get overclocked. I'm still keeping my Nexus though just as a collectors item, as a backup and for gingerbread. I'll never sell it. One reason I wanna switch is because the 3g problem on my nexus seems to be getting worse over time. The main reason I want it is the keyboard mainly for gaming and because it's vanilla android. If there is a nexus 2 I will buy it also and when the myTouch HD does come out or project emerald I'll just get my friend to get one and report it stolen and I'll do the same with mine and then switch the extra with him. I'm hoping its available for preorder but does anybody know if you preorder a phone does it charge you right when you preorder it or on your next bill?

Hell i am leaving my n1 for this mang! Well not leaving but getting.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/02/samsung-galaxy-tab-preview/

Why the hell would I? Its ridiculous to jump from N1 until a dual core android phone with a front facing camera and an 8MP rear camera that is a "Google" phone running stock android. In other words hell no!

Are you serious. No Thanks. If I only had a G1 with TMO, the obvious upgrade would be G2. But Nexus One to G2 = Downgrade. It's an ok phone though.

A) Just to play devil's advocate, people are saying that the 800 MHz MSM7x30 Scorpion chip actually runs FASTER than a 1 GHz Snapdragon. Read the comments here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/01/confirmed-t-mobile-g2-will-have-android-2-2-flash-and-800mhz-c/
B) It'd be tempting but nah, not for me. I'll wait for the next resolution bump (past 800 x 480). Preferably higher than the retina display

sl8125 said:
Hell i am leaving my n1 for this mang! Well not leaving but getting.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/02/samsung-galaxy-tab-preview/
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The Tab, looks really nice, it has everything i could possibly want in a tablet, however I was planning on waiting for the Tegra2 line of Android Tablets. Hopefully they will run just as flawless as the Tab.

Im sorry but 1ghz ftw!

If it comes with HDMI I might get one. It's hard with T-Mobile because they rarely get really nice phones like this so I may get it regardless.

[Q] I just bought

One of http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200623578692&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_9214wt_1133 to use as a gaming Desktop PC
as I am on a bit of a low budget and I would like to put a graphics card in it Preferably as cheap as Possible from ebay. There are literally thousands on ebay ranging from .99p to lots of pounds. Was wondering if someone on here could help out a oldie Truckdriver who is confused by the terminological and point me in the right direction of a good grafic card from ebay please.
Thanks.

Go for an ATI graphics card.
-Remember, Android hell is a real place and you will be sent there at the first sign of defiance-

Depends what usage do you want... If it is basic gaming then go for anything at all...but if you want high end gaming like criysis etc then more you spend more juice you get..don't compromise on brand as cheap ones might get over heated and blow up.

Going to be mainly gaming. I play civ 4 and civ 5 mainly

duryard said:
Going to be mainly gaming. I play civ 4 and civ 5 mainly
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In that case a 100$ or so card shall be good enough, both nvdia and ati are great... Is you have AMD cpu then go for ATI always a good combo, if you have intel both are good enough.
Hope that helps.

It has a Processor Speed: 3.10 GHz X4 *** 4 CORES *** QUAD Core Processor: AMD Athlon X4 645 so I guess a ATI Then what what specs am I looking for?

duryard said:
It has a Processor Speed: 3.10 GHz X4 *** 4 CORES *** QUAD Core Processor: AMD Athlon X4 645 so I guess a ATI Then what what specs am I looking for?
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Well go to asus MSI gigabyte etc site loobk for ATI gfx cards for AMDs and then look at the best bewt prices on ebay, besides you can post a couple options here and maybe we can help

What's your max budget? Look for the ATI / AMD 5770. It's a solid choice, and extremely good VFM after the 6 series release.

A Tenner if I can get away with it on flea Bay

I dont think you can. The cheapest 2nd hand cards I have seen so far on eBay are going (not yet gone) for more than that.
examples:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Gigabyte-HD55...raphics_Video_TV_Cards_TW&hash=item1c1ce86362
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/graphics-card...raphics_Video_TV_Cards_TW&hash=item3cb9be1221
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ASUS-Radeon-E...raphics_Video_TV_Cards_TW&hash=item20badfde96
Anyway, hope you find what you are looking for in that budget. Good Luck. Remember though, at that price, don't expect too much.

Thanks 3xeno. You have pointed me in the right direction. I dont mind dropping back a spec or 2 from what you have suggested to get a decent card on the cheap

Get a good processor. Civ V is very processor intensive.

sakai4eva said:
Get a good processor. Civ V is very processor intensive.
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The CPU or the graphic card processor?/
Would you care to make some suggestions as to the spec?

Both. Civ V is DX11 capable, and getting a DX11 card will go a long way for your enjoyment. My rig (Phenom II x4 945, 4GB RAM @ 1600, 6950 unlocked to 6970) still stutter when running a HUGE map with several AIs towards the late game. The bottleneck was my processor and RAM. I'd suggest that you use an x6 processor with 8GB RAM if you are serious about playing large-scale strategy games.

sakai4eva said:
Both. Civ V is DX11 capable, and getting a DX11 card will go a long way for your enjoyment. My rig (Phenom II x4 945, 4GB RAM @ 1600, 6950 unlocked to 6970) still stutter when running a HUGE map with several AIs towards the late game. The bottleneck was my processor and RAM. I'd suggest that you use an x6 processor with 8GB RAM if you are serious about playing large-scale strategy games.
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Yep. would love to get a x6 processor and 8 GB ram. Dont think the "other half" would be to impressed tho. Gone 4 the best I could afford so its x 4 and 4 gb ram. Which graphic card do you use?

duryard said:
Yep. would love to get a x6 processor and 8 GB ram. Dont think the "other half" would be to impressed tho. Gone 4 the best I could afford so its x 4 and 4 gb ram. Which graphic card do you use?
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It's a SAPPHIRE 6950 with unlocked shaders (same count as a 6970). Performance is good. Really good.

Planning to buy Acer Aspire 4752Z, is it OK for gaming?

I'm going to buy this laptop this week. Can it run HD games like GTA4, MW3, BF3? Here are the specs:
Processor
Intel Pentium Processor B960 (2.0MB L3 Cache, 2.2 GHz, DDR3 1333 MHz, 35 W)
Operating System
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Chipset
Mobile Intel HM65 Express Chipset
Graphics
Intel HD Graphics supporting Microsoft DirectX 10.1
Display
14" HD 1366 x 768 resolution, Acer CineCrystal LED
Memory
2GB DDR3 RAM (2GB x 1 upgradeable to 4GBx2)
HDD
500GB SATA HDD
Audio
Optimized Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
Wireless / LAN
Gigabit Ethernet, Wake-on-LAN ready, 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Certified
Optical Drive
8x DVD Super Multi Plus Drive
Other
Multi-Gesture touchpad
Webcam
Acer Crystal Eye HD Webcam, 1280 x 1024 resolution
Bluetooth
Yes, 4.0+HS
Battery
48.8 W 4400 mAh 6-cell Li-ion standard battery pack. Estimated battery life : 4 hours
Card Reader
Multi-in-1 card treader (SD, MMC, MS PRO & xD)
Interface
3x USB 2.0 ports, HDMI port with HDCP support
Dimension
342(W) x 245(D) x 25.5/34.2 (H) mm
Weight
2.25 kg with 6-cell battery pack

MW3 only on low settings if. I got a Intel HD 3000 and a nvidia gt540m.
But if I was you I would look for something better if you plan play some games. I think nvidia gt540m works good with MW3 because I play it on my notebook and the graphics look good.
When i played MW3 on the Intel HD 3000 I had idea it was not running so smooth.
But Intel HD 3000 can handle 1080p just fine and you can also play some games but I think games like bf3 will not run good on this notebook.
I myself got an Asus K53SV-SX838V and it has Nvdia optimus.
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DexterMorganNL said:
MW3 only on low settings if. I got a Intel HD 3000 and a nvidia gt540m.
But if I was you I would look for something better if you plan play some games. I think nvidia gt540m works good with MW3 because I play it on my notebook and the graphics look good.
When i played MW3 on the Intel HD 3000 I had idea it was not running so smooth.
But Intel HD 3000 can handle 1080p just fine and you can also play some games but I think games like bf3 will not run good on this notebook.
I myself got an Asus K53SV-SX838V and it has Nvdia optimus.
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Thanks for replying,
Actually, I can't afford a laptop as expensive as that. It would be not fair bcuz all of my siblings got mid range price laptops. I just need a cheap gaming laptop.
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Zakyz said:
Thanks for replying,
Actually, I can't afford a laptop as expensive as that. It would be not fair bcuz all of my siblings got mid range price laptops. I just need a cheap gaming laptop.
Sent from the Sun.
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My notebook has an i7 2670QM and 8GB Ram, and a decent GPU Nvidia GT540 and it came with a 640GB harddrive which I replaced with a 128GB SSD.
My notebook was € 587 and I even have an USB 3.0 port and the build quality is good. My notebook is an Asus K53SV-SX838V, but I got it with a really good promotion.
So I don't think my notebook was expensive at all.

DexterMorganNL said:
My notebook has an i7 2670QM and 8GB Ram, and a decent GPU Nvidia GT540 and it came with a 640GB harddrive which I replaced with a 128GB SSD.
My notebook was € 587 and I even have an USB 3.0 port and the build quality is good. My notebook is an Asus K53SV-SX838V, but I got it with a really good promotion.
So I don't think my notebook was expensive at all.
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I guess I have no other choice, so I just have to buy this laptop, Acer 4752z.
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I don't know, you look look further? I have no idea what the price off computers is in your country.
Maybe you can better buy an notebook with AMD, because AMD Fusion processor. As these notebooks are really cheap and they seems to have a good GPU part with it.
I'm not fan off AMD, but you can look into it, read online and compare.

DexterMorganNL said:
I don't know, you look look further? I have no idea what the price off computers is in your country.
Maybe you can better buy an notebook with AMD, because AMD Fusion processor. As these notebooks are really cheap and they seems to have a good GPU part with it.
I'm not fan off AMD, but you can look into it, read online and compare.
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It costs like BND$800+ here, you can convert it if you want to.
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Intel GFX chips are useless. "even with dedicated memory, but most of them uses shared memory."
No Nvidia or AMD graphics chip = no game.

OmegaRED^ said:
Intel GFX chips are useless. "even with dedicated memory, but most of them uses shared memory."
No Nvidia or AMD graphics chip = no game.
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Thx for the info. How about AMD Radeon HD 6320?
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Zakyz said:
Thx for the info. How about AMD Radeon HD 6320?
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The 3D performance of the HD 6320 should be only minimally faster than a 6310 and therefore only low demanding or older games should run fluently (e.g. Call of Duty 4, Sims 3, Left 4 Dead 2, Fifa 11).
Based on the chip in the link bellow it's only a few Mhz faster.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-4330.13973.0.html
Unfortunately gaming laptops are bank breakers. "cost very much for very little."
http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu/AMD+Radeon+HD+6320/review
To give you a better idea of WTF may be playable.
http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu/AMD+Radeon+HD+6320/games
All and all not bad but many new games will feel the burn even at minimum.
Anything else i can assist you with?

OmegaRED^ said:
The 3D performance of the HD 6320 should be only minimally faster than a 6310 and therefore only low demanding or older games should run fluently (e.g. Call of Duty 4, Sims 3, Left 4 Dead 2, Fifa 11).
Based on the chip in the link bellow it's only a few Mhz faster.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-4330.13973.0.html
Unfortunately gaming laptops are bank breakers. "cost very much for very little."
http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu/AMD+Radeon+HD+6320/review
To give you a better idea of WTF may be playable.
http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu/AMD+Radeon+HD+6320/games
All and all not bad but many new games will feel the burn even at minimum.
Anything else i can assist you with?
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Nothing else, thank you.
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[Q] Galaxy Nexus or HTC One X for upgrade?

The time has come. The N1 has put up a good fight, and is still fighting to stay up to date, but it's an uphill battle.
So I recently became eligible for a upgrade through At&t. Unfortunately the best Android phone they have to offer right now is the Galaxy S II. I'm the kind of guy who isn't going to drop hundreds of dollars for a phone I will have for 2 years that can't compete in a year.
So Here's my plan (this is actually how I got the cash to get the N1, albeit an iPhone 4)
Buy a iPhone 4S through At&t for $150 (refurb)
Sell it on ebay for ~$450-500
End up with an excess ~$350
Sell my N1 for ~$100
~$450 total
I can then make up the difference out of my own pocket
$500 is also roughly the amount the Galaxy Nexus is unsubsidized.
The One X looks like an amazing phone. However, the one that will be offered through At&t will be dual core 1.5GHZ, which is still better than the Galaxy Nexus' dual 1.2GHZ. However, if I'm going to have this phone for the next 2 years, it's going to be kick-ass, so I would go with the international tegra 3 quad core One X being offered unsubsidized. Right now that will run more more that $500 surely, but I'll be getting a monster.
I'm also extremely impressed with the community for Nexus devices. The ability to flash countless ROM's is a convenience I wish all phones could have, and something I do quite often. I know HTC has unlock-able bootloaders now, but I don't think they have as much community support for various ROM's, recovery's, etc. I do love the build quality of HTC devices so much more than Samsung though.
So my question to you all is, should I stay true to the Nexus line and get an extremely solid phone, or go for the One-X with almost 3x as much processing power?

XSafire said:
The time has come. The N1 has put up a good fight, and is still fighting to stay up to date, but it's an uphill battle.
So I recently became eligible for a upgrade through At&t. Unfortunately the best Android phone they have to offer right now is the Galaxy S II. I'm the kind of guy who isn't going to drop hundreds of dollars for a phone I will have for 2 years that can't compete in a year.
So Here's my plan (this is actually how I got the cash to get the N1, albeit an iPhone 4)
Buy a iPhone 4S through At&t for $150 (refurb)
Sell it on ebay for ~$450-500
End up with an excess ~$350
Sell my N1 for ~$100
~$450 total
I can then make up the difference out of my own pocket
$500 is also roughly the amount the Galaxy Nexus is unsubsidized.
The One X looks like an amazing phone. However, the one that will be offered through At&t will be dual core 1.5GHZ, which is still better than the Galaxy Nexus' dual 1.2GHZ. However, if I'm going to have this phone for the next 2 years, it's going to be kick-ass, so I would go with the international tegra 3 quad core One X being offered unsubsidized. Right now that will run more more that $500 surely, but I'll be getting a monster.
I'm also extremely impressed with the community for Nexus devices. The ability to flash countless ROM's is a convenience I wish all phones could have, and something I do quite often. I know HTC has unlock-able bootloaders now, but I don't think they have as much community support for various ROM's, recovery's, etc. I do love the build quality of HTC devices so much more than Samsung though.
So my question to you all is, should I stay true to the Nexus line and get an extremely solid phone, or go for the One-X with almost 3x as much processing power?
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You never get 100$ for a used nexus one. More like 40~50$. They go new for around 100$

Read the comparisons between Tegra 3 and MSM8960. The dual-core One X will most likely be more powerful and less battery-eater than Tegra 3 one. The number of cores doesn't equal performance. You can get it through AT&T and that would make your plan much simpler.

Jack_R1 said:
Read the comparisons between Tegra 3 and MSM8960. The dual-core One X will most likely be more powerful and less battery-eater than Tegra 3 one. The number of cores doesn't equal performance. You can get it through AT&T and that would make your plan much simpler.
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Thanks for that. So would you choose the One XL over the Galaxy Nexus?

I might not be a good example. After a year with Nexus One, mostly running Enomther's ROM (somewhere between AOSP and CM), and trying some CM7, I grew really fond of Sense, especially after using Sense 3 for a while (running Sense 3.5 on my MT4G now). Stock Android has so many stupid quirks and limitations that I can't stand it. Plus, I completely dislike stock ICS look, it's awful IMHO, and I didn't particularly like Gingerbread either, Froyo was much closer to my taste - and Sense reminds me of it. So I would definitely take a phone that can run Sense ROMs over a phone that can't, but as you can see, it's my subjective opinion.
There is one more lesson I learned from Nexus One: user base counts. With Galaxy Nexus, all you get is a new OS 1-2 months ahead, and relatively small user base - while most likely having devs, but also more likely to jump to another, newer phone quite fast. On the other hand, on One X for 1-2 months delay in OS update you'll get more variants - in addition to stock Sense there will be AOSP, CM and MIUI variants like for any other phone, and most of all - you'll probably get A LOT more users, which eventually equals much better support community. Look at Nexus One development versus the good old Desire. If I'd pick Desire back then - I'd still be using it now.

Seems to me the choice is clear.....lol
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Wait, what? The HTC One X isn't dual core. It's got a quad core processor.

Theshawty said:
Wait, what? The HTC One X isn't dual core. It's got a quad core processor.
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Only the international version.
The US version gets a dual core but it's a beast dual core at that.
Benchmarks better than Tegra 3.
You really can't go wrong with it.

This one is for dual core Snapdragon S4, I believe.

I Am Marino said:
Only the international version.
The US version gets a dual core but it's a beast dual core at that.
Benchmarks better than Tegra 3.
You really can't go wrong with it.
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Dafuq? Why do they make two versions of it?
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Theshawty said:
Dafuq? Why do they make two versions of it?
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Because Tegra3 does not play nicely with LTE.
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XSafire said:
The time has come. The N1 has put up a good fight, and is still fighting to stay up to date, but it's an uphill battle.
So I recently became eligible for a upgrade through At&t. Unfortunately the best Android phone they have to offer right now is the Galaxy S II. I'm the kind of guy who isn't going to drop hundreds of dollars for a phone I will have for 2 years that can't compete in a year.
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http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...wtSlotClick=1-007D1Y!903920-1-1&rel=nofollow#
SGS2, $10 if you buy it today, with two year contract. $100 otherwise... Your plan seems silly.

I Am Marino said:
Only the international version.
The US version gets a dual core but it's a beast dual core at that.
Benchmarks better than Tegra 3.
You really can't go wrong with it.
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No the tegra 3 still outperforms it in raw power by like 70 percent, but the dual core that i has is a beast no doubt about that
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ray3andrei said:
No the tegra 3 still outperforms it in raw power by like 70 percent, but the dual core that i has is a beast no doubt about that
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That's according to what benchmark exactly?
Anandtech says you either don't know what you're talking about or can't read charts (or both). Maybe if you mean that dual-core S4 outperforms quad-core Tegra 3 by 70%:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3
Seeing these numbers, HTC's decision to go with Tegra3 leaves you thinking, what's wrong with them. The most probable reason is that they had to decide when the CPUs weren't anywhere near ready, and they evaluated them to be more or less equal, and given the marketing hype of Nvidia and a bit earlier arrival, chose it for flagship device. Well, I guess their management is not too happy now to say the least, when the CPUs are out in the wild and the results are on the table, but that also could make AT&T's One X a big hit, like I said.

Jack_R1 said:
That's according to what benchmark exactly?
Anandtech says you either don't know what you're talking about or can't read charts (or both). Maybe if you mean that dual-core S4 outperforms quad-core Tegra 3 by 70%:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3
Seeing these numbers, HTC's decision to go with Tegra3 leaves you thinking, what's wrong with them. The most probable reason is that they had to decide when the CPUs weren't anywhere near ready, and they evaluated them to be more or less equal, and given the marketing hype of Nvidia and a bit earlier arrival, chose it for flagship device. Well, I guess their management is not too happy now to say the least, when the CPUs are out in the wild and the results are on the table, but that also could make AT&T's One X a big hit, like I said.
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Are you being serious.. do you trust the bull**** on amandtech.... honestly you didnt hold the device in your hands to see how it performs, nor did you see a clip of it being benchmarked. Its impossible how 2 cores 1.5Ghz can beat a quad core 1.6Ghz the the arm in the s4 doesnt give double the performance compared to the arm in tegra 3... seriously, its like comparing an intel core i5 to a amd phenom 2....
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Jack_R1 said:
That's according to what benchmark exactly?
Anandtech says you either don't know what you're talking about or can't read charts (or both). Maybe if you mean that dual-core S4 outperforms quad-core Tegra 3 by 70%:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3
Seeing these numbers, HTC's decision to go with Tegra3 leaves you thinking, what's wrong with them. The most probable reason is that they had to decide when the CPUs weren't anywhere near ready, and they evaluated them to be more or less equal, and given the marketing hype of Nvidia and a bit earlier arrival, chose it for flagship device. Well, I guess their management is not too happy now to say the least, when the CPUs are out in the wild and the results are on the table, but that also could make AT&T's One X a big hit, like I said.
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I also saw pics of a galaxy nexus cooked and all that kitchen stuff i saw PICS only that doesnt prove anything, i own a transformer prime and its really good but it tends to lag when it switches from companion core to the actual cores, i saw benchmarks where the ram in the one x (s4) completely crushes the ram in the prime which is almost impossible because the ram in the prime runs at twice the clock speed. But it is single channel compared to dual channel in the s4 on paper the tegra 3 is faster.. by a lot ...
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ray3andrei said:
Are you being serious.. do you trust the bull**** on amandtech.... honestly you didnt hold the device in your hands to see how it performs, nor did you see a clip of it being benchmarked. Its impossible how 2 cores 1.5Ghz can beat a quad core 1.6Ghz the the arm in the s4 doesnt give double the performance compared to the arm in tegra 3... seriously, its like comparing an intel core i5 to a amd phenom 2....
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That's only because you don't know a thing about what's in both, how they work and how the Linux kernel above both works. If you manage to read the beginning of the article, you'll see that Krait in S4 is no Cortex A9. Yes, especially in FPU operations, it can double, triple and quadruple the performance of a regular A9, and is generally much faster.
You're resorting to 2nd-grade defense, which could be expected from a Tegra3-based-device owner-fanboy. The benchmarks are just that - benchmarks, and if you're talking "raw power" and giving numbers - back them up with raw data, which benchmarks are (more or less objective, but it's not the point here). Otherwise just say "I own a Tegra3 device and it performs fine, and I have no idea what dual-core Krait performs like, because I never saw one". There's nothing else you can possibly say. "Impossible"? Says who?
P.S. It's funny that you assumed that I "didn't hold the device in my hands".

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That's only because you don't know a thing about what's in both, how they work and how the Linux kernel above both works. If you manage to read the beginning of the article, you'll see that Krait in S4 is no Cortex A9. Yes, especially in FPU operations, it can double, triple and quadruple the performance of a regular A9, and is generally much faster.
You're resorting to 2nd-grade defense, which could be expected from a Tegra3-based-device owner-fanboy. The benchmarks are just that - benchmarks, and if you're talking "raw power" and giving numbers - back them up with raw data, which benchmarks are (more or less objective, but it's not the point here). Otherwise just say "I own a Tegra3 device and it performs fine, and I have no idea what dual-core Krait performs like, because I never saw one". There's nothing else you can possibly say. "Impossible"? Says who?
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Haha....i didnt say a9 did I, you seem to be really pissed dude... show me a vid where the one x gets benchmarked.. and im not a fanboy.. in fact i like my nexus more than my prime..
On paper the tegra 3 is better and even if it uses arm a15mp core it still wouldn't match sorry im done here
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Jack_R1 said:
That's only because you don't know a thing about what's in both, how they work and how the Linux kernel above both works. If you manage to read the beginning of the article, you'll see that Krait in S4 is no Cortex A9. Yes, especially in FPU operations, it can double, triple and quadruple the performance of a regular A9, and is generally much faster.
You're resorting to 2nd-grade defense, which could be expected from a Tegra3-based-device owner-fanboy. The benchmarks are just that - benchmarks, and if you're talking "raw power" and giving numbers - back them up with raw data, which benchmarks are (more or less objective, but it's not the point here). Otherwise just say "I own a Tegra3 device and it performs fine, and I have no idea what dual-core Krait performs like, because I never saw one". There's nothing else you can possibly say. "Impossible"? Says who?
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If i look at thr quadrant benchmark it gets 8500, on my prime i get 11000.. so the t3 is faster.. sorry
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I would choose the nexus only because of the screen, stock ics, and 1st to get updates, anything else go for the one x regardless of the version you get
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Lookie here

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/lg_optimus_g_pro_superphone_announced_japan2013
LG is setting the bar for this year. .

Eh. 1080p screens are nice but backed by an S4 I'd rather have 720p. Performance is gonna take a hit compared to a similar spec'd phone with 720.

That thing sounds like its going to be a beast!:good:

Krait 800 is gonna be a beast.
And now with Cortex A15 on smartphones expected soon, APQ8064 looks a bit dull to me...

063_XOBX said:
Eh. 1080p screens are nice but backed by an S4 I'd rather have 720p. Performance is gonna take a hit compared to a similar spec'd phone with 720.
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The S4 pro will really take that much of a hit vs an exynos?

LoopDoGG79 said:
The S4 pro will really take that much of a hit vs an exynos?
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Against an Exynos 5?
SURE.
Just check out the benchmarks for the N10 (dual core Exy5) vs Nexus 4/ Optimus G (quad core Krait pro)

Yeah if I recall correctly the exynos 5 rips apart the s4 pro on anandtech
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sy224048 said:
Yeah if I recall correctly the exynos 5 rips apart the s4 pro on anandtech
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It's based on the cycles of chip makers. Qualcomm is always first to market while Samsung, TI, Nvidia and the rest release in house chips that smoke 'comms offering.

1920x1080 on a 1.9ghz S4? Lol, that's going to lag an awful lot..

ShadowLea said:
1920x1080 on a 1.9ghz S4? Lol, that's going to lag an awful lot..
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But it's a quad-core, so it will really run at 7.6GHz

Archer said:
But it's a quad-core, so it will really run at 7.6GHz
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Ohhh, should be fine then!
(god I wish that were true )

063_XOBX said:
It's based on the cycles of chip makers. Qualcomm is always first to market while Samsung, TI, Nvidia and the rest release in house chips that smoke 'comms offering.
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Seems like noone is listening to this guy.......IMO, he seems to make the most sense thusfar.

He's right though. First doesn't mean. In fact, it usually means worst because they don't have as much time for good engineering. However I think the nexus 4 will always be superior to every non-nexus phone.
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