Galaxy note flash counter and warranty - Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi I have a question regarding the flash counter. I have read some posts on this but I still need some clarifying. I understand that the flash counter increases for every flash and this is how samsung know this. You also get the triangle thing as well. I also understand that there is the USB jig to reset the flash counter and remove the triangle thing. Now what I am not sure of is the bits with flashing and not increasing the flash counter.
Flashing with PC odin without using stock firmware increade it; right?
Flashing with mobile odin does not increase it; right?
Flashing with CMW does not increase it; right?
I have rooted my phone but I don't CMW. So mobile odin is the only one I can use for flashing. Can anyone please comfirm the three questions above is a yes.
Thanks
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For first question juat i rearrange words
any custom rom/kernel flash with pc odin, raise counter.
Rest two exactly yes
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- PC Odin = Will not increase the counter as long as it's STOCK ROM.
- Mobile Odin = Will not increase the counter
- CWM = Will not increase the counter
Never use PC Odin to flash custom ROM's.

LordManhattan said:
- PC Odin = Will not increase the counter as long as it's STOCK ROM.
- Mobile Odin = Will not increase the counter
- CWM = Will not increase the counter
Never use PC Odin to flash custom ROM's.
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Even if I flash CUSTOM ROM (ICS) using CWM will not increase the counter???

priyanv said:
Even if I flash CUSTOM ROM (ICS) using CWM will not increase the counter???
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No, it will not.

Nice ROM.
Anybody using GO Launcher? There seems to be a lag in most of the transition effects (cylinder, chariot, etc.). Is it just me or are others experiencing this?

chasmodo said:
No, it will not.
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So i just wanna download a custom rom (ICS or something) and copy it in external card, flash it thru CWM.. Now am with custom rom without increase in flash counter... Am I rite?

priyanv said:
So i just wanna download a custom rom (ICS or something) and copy it in external card, flash it thru CWM.. Now am with custom rom without increase in flash counter... Am I rite?
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Yes, you're right.
However, I'd start with Gingerbread roms if I were you. Almost all early ICS roms have pretty complicated flashing procedures to set the root kernel, and it might prove too much for a new flasher.
GB roms, OTOH, are safe for you to play with until you gain more experience and knowhow.

chasmodo said:
GB roms, OTOH, are safe for you to play with until you gain more experience and knowhow.
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OTOH? ?? What is that?

OTOH = on the other hand

When ics was first leaked I flashed through mobile odin and my counter increased to 1. I then flashed a custom kernel through odin so I had cwm back and increased my counter to 2. There's some software called triangle away which apparently works to reset counter but I'm a bit dubious about editing the bootloader as this could royally screw up the phone
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A lot of us had used Triangle Away to reset the counters, and I have yet to hear that someone bricked their Note in the process.
Not saying that bricking is impossible, of course, but no-one had complained so far.

LordManhattan said:
- PC Odin = Will not increase the counter as long as it's STOCK ROM.
- Mobile Odin = Will not increase the counter
- CWM = Will not increase the counter
Never use PC Odin to flash custom ROM's.
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Never use PC Odin to flash anything unless its the very last resort.

chasmodo said:
A lot of us had used Triangle Away to reset the counters, and I have yet to hear that someone bricked their Note in the process.
Not saying that bricking is impossible, of course, but no-one had complained so far.
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Is it okay to use triangle away even though I'm on gingerbread and not an ics leak?
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notegalaxy said:
Is it okay to use triangle away even though I'm on gingerbread and not an ics leak?
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No, Triangle Away works on ICS Roms only.

chasmodo said:
No, Triangle Away works on ICS Roms only.
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Thought so. Thank you for info.
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[Q] Cappy Bricked??? Pls help!!!! unique problem!!!

Ok i know and have seen that there are many experienced users in this forum, so i give you this!!Pls help sum1!!!
I think i bricked my fone, tried to get cwm 3 on it, then while rebooting, it wont reboot. went into download mode with odin (3 button fix) (i have done this 9-10 times before, not a noob to this), selected pit and tar and hit start. odin stuck on factoryfs and fully orange screen on fone. removed battery, fone, usb, odin restart, tried again, yellow screen. again. red screen. now got frustrated. tried normal odin(not the 3 button fix), again yellow screen.took out battery to try again, but fone wont start/go in dl/recvry mode anymore. tried on 2 different comps with xp/win7. no go.
SCREWED??
BTW, i ordered a jig.should arrive by end of week.
It'll be fine after you get your jig.
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same thing happened to me...but i just got it replaced..as there was no way i could wake it up...but try Jig..or just get it replaced...every captivate is under warranty...tell them u were doing official Froyo update and lost electricity or something....
yes will try that and post.
In the meantime, can sum1 pls run me thru the steps to install custom ROM on preinstalled froyo cappy? My prev 1 was stock eclair, i filed 4 insurance and am sure the new 1s gonna b stock froyo. I have heard that there are a no. f probs with stock froyo phones????
Its a semi uncommon problem.I have had the random colored screens before and had to pull battery. Managed to get odin to work after a couple of times
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psycho2097 said:
yes will try that and post.
In the meantime, can sum1 pls run me thru the steps to install custom ROM on preinstalled froyo cappy? My prev 1 was stock eclair, i filed 4 insurance and am sure the new 1s gonna b stock froyo. I have heard that there are a no. f probs with stock froyo phones????
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flash to stock using full Odin(full odin to avoid loosing 3 button combo), flash CWM.Zip....flash any froyo custum rom
or just flash the fix for sign verification (its somewhere in the threads) then you can avoid flashing to stock....just flash CWM and Custom rom
viny2cool said:
flash to stock using full Odin(full odin to avoid loosing 3 button combo), flash CWM.Zip....flash any froyo custum rom
or just flash the fix for sign verification (its somewhere in the threads) then you can avoid flashing to stock....just flash CWM and Custom rom
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YEA, I THOT SO 2... JUZ WANTED 2 VERIFY, WAT ABOUT WEN CHANGING ROMS?do i need to flash to stock every time, or can i just take a backup f froyo stock using cwm?(sorry 4 the caps...)
Most of the custom roms don't require flashing to stock now a days. But if its mentioned in the instructions than I would do it.
But definitely you should disable lagfix and stuff before flashing over new rom.
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viny2cool said:
Most of the custom roms don't require flashing to stock now a days. But if its mentioned in the instructions than I would do it.
But definitely you should disable lagfix and stuff before flashing over new rom.
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no i meant with stock froyo and 3e recvry, should i flash to stock using odin or just backup/restore using cwm? m not familiar using stock froyo on cappy.
psycho2097 said:
no i meant with stock froyo and 3e recvry, should i flash to stock using odin or just backup/restore using cwm? m not familiar using stock froyo on cappy.
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If u flash any zip from stock froyo it gives you sign verification error. So u need to fix that a nd than just flash custom rom as u normally do
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Crash N Burn....Owch!
psycho2097 said:
no i meant with stock froyo and 3e recvry, should i flash to stock using odin or just backup/restore using cwm? m not familiar using stock froyo on cappy.
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Sounds as though your bootloader got hammered.
Yes, as another posted, with 3e recovery you'll get a signing error, but there is a workaround, depending on your device and ROM you're using to have files pass through as if it were on 2e recovery. Another method is if one passes files that are unsigned. (only load if it's from a trusted source)
Is it possible you performed a nandriod backup before this debacle occurred?
If so, try a restore from recovery with your last nandroid backup. This should restore the bootloader and correct partitioning on your disk.
HtH
Peace-
Liv33viL said:
Sounds as though your bootloader got hammered.
Yes, as another posted, with 3e recovery you'll get a signing error, but there is a workaround, depending on your device and ROM you're using to have files pass through as if it were on 2e recovery. Another method is if one passes files that are unsigned. (only load if it's from a trusted source)
Is it possible you performed a nandriod backup before this debacle occurred?
If so, try a restore from recovery with your last nandroid backup. This should restore the bootloader and correct partitioning on your disk.
HtH
Peace-
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inncidentally i did do a couple of nandroids before "all the **** hit the fan". and i could use it to restore. but how? my fone simply wont turn on, neither go in2 recv/ dl. so how 2 restore???????
all 2.2 have 3e recovery, custom roms built on 2.2 come pre cracked.
here is the 3e recovery fix. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909213
it works on all 2.2 stocks with 3e.
if you are rooted using "one click root 1.7" (NOT ODIN ONE CLICK!!!) you dont need adb commands just root explorer to mount and replace file. or use adb to mount and push file. the instructions in the thread have the 2 methods mixed together.
no offence but ignore Liv33viL on this one
Trusselo said:
no offence but ignore Liv33viL on this one
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Dude, that's just plain wrong. Let each person decide on their own who's advice to take and who's to ignore. It's an open forum and we all have the right to share our knowledge and experience. The focus here should be helping people get the assistance they need, not to diminish someone's credibility based on a personal opinion.
In short, grow up.
Trusselo said:
no offence but ignore Liv33viL on this one
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ok, but then do u mean my bootloader is not damaged? can it be still repaired by using jig? can i restore nandroid?? but how 2 do so since my fone wont turn on at all?
What happens when you do turn it on- nothing? Or does it hang on the boot screen?
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I had the very same problem. Your bootloater is boogered up now. I sent mine to an xda member and he fixed it.
Even with a jig I wasn't able to do anything. My phone would go into d/l mode with it but that was all it would do.
I paid $50 to have mine fixed which in my opinion is well worth it. That doesn't include shipping costs. I had connexion2005 fix it for me. He a great guy and does very fast work. It beats buying a new phone.
Hope this helps.
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All shameless advertising aside, it's worth trying a fix where others give up and pay someone. Through the process of elimination we can determine if you need professional help lol!
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Thanks guys..will try connexion when the jig fails.
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N does anybody know what to do, as my newly arrived cappy has a distinctive yellow tint to the screen. Do I call samsung and ask for a new one? Or is there some method to fix it by software?
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Bootloaders?

Quick question,if i want to go to a rom that has gb bl.s from 1 with froyo bl.s can i just download and flash gb bl,s stay in rec.then flash rom?
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it is so risky to flash bootloaders in recovery....and should not be done that way
Pirateghost said:
it is so risky to flash bootloaders in recovery....and should not be done that way
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I wasnt aware of a full package for bootloaders that is set up to flash with CWM.
mrhaley30705 said:
I wasnt aware of a full package for bootloaders that is set up to flash with CWM.
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dont know of any off hand, but i do know that you can flash sbl.bin via CWM...and its extremely risky to do so
Pirateghost said:
it is so risky to flash bootloaders in recovery....and should not be done that way
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Ok,thanks can you download bl,s to phone from pc then flash rom?
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DEW-SCGS said:
Ok,thanks can you download bl,s to phone from pc then flash rom?
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my first recommendation is Heimdall, second would be ODIN
if you have to ask about downloading bootloaders to the phone from the PC, then you shouldnt be doing this. this would indicate you have a lot more reading to do to understand what you are actually doing.
Odin
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Pirateghost said:
my first recommendation is Heimdall, second would be ODIN
if you have to ask about downloading bootloaders to the phone from the PC, then you shouldnt be doing this. this would indicate you have a lot more reading to do to understand what you are actually doing.
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Reason i asked is a friend of mine dl a rom based on gb bl,s he was on rom,with froyo bl,s ended up messed up phone i got it fixed with help on here ,all i had to do is dl gb bl,s to his phone and it worked fine i did I
Use odin just curious if would work again or if i got lucky that time
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hello everyone,yesterday i was intend to downgrade the rom i was using for my captivate.i went to download menu and with odin i completed the steps.but when when it rebooted now all i can see is the at&t screen flashing and if i try to plug it with my pc the battery ico shows like charging.so i am badly in need of help.cuz i cant go to the download menu(and i tried all the 3 buttons combo usb jig every single thing but nothing happens),so plz help me out.what should i do.i got no idea i tried a lot but nothing happens plz help me out if anyone knows anything about it.

[Q] Can someone damaged the phone using applications TriangleAway.apk

Everyone wants to make the rooted Galaxy Note performing complex tasks.
The easiest way to install a secure kernel has CWM using PC Odin. Then you need to remove only the yellow triangle using TriangleAway. Using this application, the fear in many people. Please share your experiences.
Although in the original thread of triangle away it is mention that this may cause problems... As it does in all dev posts.
I have used tri away a lot of times and it worked like a charm.
P. S : this doesn't mean I am 100 sure that nothing will happen the next time. Risk to take.
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I, too many times I've used this application and never failed me. That is why I ask if others have had problems with TriangleAway.
for me, I used it on my phone and friends phone many times and there was no problem at all although in the original post it is mentioned that it is dangerous operation!!!
I think it is matter of luck.. it doesn't mean if it work for me it will work for you.. you have to carry some risk.. and how can you enjoy the life without carrying some risks!!!
I think there is no report till date.
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Depends on how the dev accessed the risk and what caused known issues. Probably Chainfire will have more insight
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I have never read any report of brick by using it, even though it is said dangerous by developers.
I think even if it can cause brick it should be soft brick,not hard brick.
dr.ketan said:
I have never read any report of brick by using it, even though it is said dangerous by developers.
I think even if it can cause brick it should be soft brick,not hard brick.
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When I started in note world and when you could root with cwm.zip and somehow once in stock ics .. The cwm.zip was declared dangerous the only way to get root and get a safe kernel for some days was flashing notecore and every other safe kernel was pc odin then triangle away.. You must remember this period clearly.. I had to use triangle away once and when rebooted the procedure did deleted all my folders and launcher setups.. Also the device was acting weird and buggy and had to restock to gb with pc odin and wait for a solution to root ics without flashing kernels with pc odin.. I'm staying away from triangle away for ever.. Even when my note 2 gets home if the only method to root its flashing stuff with pc odin that will get me a triangle well guess I won't root my device until there's a method that leads me to avoid triangle away at all costs
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Indeed I never used triangle away in my device
But for everyone it is difficult to choose long path. Afaik
Note 2is concerned we must have to use triangle away if you want to root, as since some time samsung stock recovery no more allowing test sign zip file from recovery. In this condition I don't think we may have any alternative.
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dr.ketan said:
Indeed I never used triangle away in my device
But for everyone it is difficult to choose long path. Afaik
Note 2is concerned we must have to use triangle away if you want to root, as since some time samsung stock recovery no more allowing test sign zip file from recovery. In this condition I don't think we may have any alternative.
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Damn well hope it doesn't lead to more troubles and I'll try to keep the root as long as I own the device lol
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Gregs5 said:
I, too many times I've used this application and never failed me. That is why I ask if others have had problems with TriangleAway.
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I have only experienced issue with Triangle Away when using Speedmod and Franco kernels. If I use Triangle Away, I always flash a CF kernel before running the app. Then I revert to my kernel of choice thereafter.
You do not have to. If there is a triangle and the counter shows a custom ROM, you can use the triangle and leave the kernel.
msedek said:
When I started in note world and when you could root with cwm.zip and somehow once in stock ics .. The cwm.zip was declared dangerous the only way to get root and get a safe kernel for some days was flashing notecore and every other safe kernel was pc odin then triangle away.. You must remember this period clearly.. I had to use triangle away once and when rebooted the procedure did deleted all my folders and launcher setups.. Also the device was acting weird and buggy and had to restock to gb with pc odin and wait for a solution to root ics without flashing kernels with pc odin.. I'm staying away from triangle away for ever.. Even when my note 2 gets home if the only method to root its flashing stuff with pc odin that will get me a triangle well guess I won't root my device until there's a method that leads me to avoid triangle away at all costs
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If I understood correctly, your phone is not damaged by TriangleAway.
msedek said:
Damn well hope it doesn't lead to more troubles and I'll try to keep the root as long as I own the device lol
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This is a good idea once root and then as long as try to preserve root.
Here particularly in Note problem is more just b'coz of brick bug, here we have to care all the time and look for all the aspect to escape from it. Note 2 and SGS 3 reported brick bug free so i dont think there should be much complicated.
Though i have not used TA in my device but in samsung tab and galaxy 3 i have to use it at least >15 time, but never cause any issue.
dr.ketan said:
This is a good idea once root and then as long as try to preserve root.
Here particularly in Note problem is more just b'coz of brick bug, here we have to care all the time and look for all the aspect to escape from it. Note 2 and SGS 3 reported brick bug free so i dont think there should be much complicated.
Though i have not used TA in my device but in samsung tab and galaxy 3 i have to use it at least >15 time, but never cause any issue.
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Anyways I do still think this whole rooting thing it's plain stupid... It should be like windows.. You can choose either if you want limited account or administrator account.. And then choose a sub level of protección UAC like Wich can go from no protection at all or very limited access to stuff.. But then that's up you... It's your damn device..
Like if you gonna give a phone to your kids or wife you can set up a limited account and set parental control etc to protect them from inadequate/dangerous content.. Not worrying about rooting or losing it.. Plain lame
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You can use mobileodin it will not leave a mark. Just use the pc odin to flash official rom. I never experienced yellow triangle so far in my device.
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jonpaslim said:
You can use mobileodin it will not leave a mark. Just use the pc odin to flash official rom. I never experienced yellow triangle so far in my device.
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right... but i guess most of the users get triangle away when they are stuck in a boot loop and PC odin seems to rescue (if no nandroid backup)
I invite all who used TriangleAway to share their insights and experiences on the application.
I've not had the yellow triangle for a long time now and therefor not used the TA app lately. But before I ran it several times from many different rom versions and kernels. Have probably used it more than 30 times and never experienced/noticed any kind of issues. It seems to be very stable and solid to me, or maybe I was just lucky, who knows.
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same... No one can give guarantee that it will always work. It's just that till now most of the ppl who tried it have succeeded
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[Q] retaining warranty

Hello friends ,thanks for seeing this thread,i am newbie but got tempted to jb and finally rooted my device and than chenged rom to jb. Now my question is how to retain warranty after all. I searched and read all topics but was messed . I need help with process and terms.
. Thanks
To retain the warranty you need to unroot and go back to stock rom from your region
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I understand it but what are those flash counts all these stuffs confused me.
Flash counts void your warranty. Use triangle away to remove them.
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dhruva7 said:
I understand it but what are those flash counts all these stuffs confused me.
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Once u reset the flash counter using TriangleAway, your phone will show the binary count as 0 & firmware as samsung official (this is something which samsung may check to see if you have flashed cutom rom/firmware. By resetting this, samsung will not come to know that you had rooted your phone :thumbup then u can flash ur region's stock rom using PC Odin..it wl unroot & remove cwm..

Charging issue

Hey guys, little bit of a problem, hope you have some ideas.
Basically, My phone has decided it wont be charging anymore, the battery charges fine in my wifes N7000, used 3/4 different charges, all work fine with hers, none which work with mine, looking inside the charging port, it appears to a little burned, theres an area which is quite black inside the port.
So, the phone is rooted and running a lightweight LSZ leak, its not returnable to samsung (and likely, my insurer) in this condition, problem is, if the phone isnt connect via USB, I wont be able to flash an official firmware via ODIN to remove the rootage.
Is it possible for me to perhaps flash an older firmware through CMW and then try and update OTA to remove root, or, am i destined to charge my battery from my missus' phone from now on?
Many thanks!
if you rooted why not use mobile odin to flash a stock firmware..
nokiamodeln91 said:
if you rooted why not use mobile odin to flash a stock firmware..
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Good point, will this remove root as well?
Written said:
Good point, will this remove root as well?
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yes, but if it is pro version you are using the make sure to uncheck everroot option.
treacherous_hawk said:
yes, but if it is pro version you are using the make sure to uncheck everroot option.
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Thanks for the advice treacherous, will the lite version : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347899
suit my needs for coming down to a non rooted stock version that I can return to a samsung support centre?
thanks!
Written said:
Thanks for the advice treacherous, will the lite version : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347899
suit my needs for coming down to a non rooted stock version that I can return to a samsung support centre?
thanks!
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Yes
Edit: also read thoroughly as you already have the link there are few things you would require to install for the lite version.
Under default settings of mobile odin, it will remove root. But before you go about uprooting, make sure your counter is set to 0. If no then you will need to use triangle away app and it will need root access.
nokiamodeln91 said:
Under default settings of mobile odin, it will remove root. But before you go about uprooting, make sure your counter is set to 0. If no then you will need to use triangle away app and it will need root access.
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Thanks guys, I already run the triangle remover when i first rooted my phone and the counter is still at 0, plus i am rooted. i notice in the instructions there is some flash kernels, will I need to flash this first via CWM before using mobile odin or will Philz kernel be fine for me?
Written said:
Thanks guys, I already run the triangle remover when i first rooted my phone and the counter is still at 0, plus i am rooted. i notice in the instructions there is some flash kernels, will I need to flash this first via CWM before using mobile odin or will Philz kernel be fine for me?
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It is an apk file.
I think for the lite version you will need to download the odin flash kernel first. Just follow the instructions. The paid version automatically downloads it.
Thanks again guys, one final question then, if you was returning your note to the Samsung centre would you use the kies GB, ICS or JB official ROM? Considering making it the JB, what do you think?
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Written said:
Thanks again guys, one final question then, if you was returning your note to the Samsung centre would you use the kies GB, ICS or JB official ROM? Considering making it the JB, what do you think?
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you can take it to service center with JB or any of 2 older versions, does not matter.
Edit:as long as firmware is for you country and samsung has released Jelly Bean in your country.
Luckily the Netherlands has LSZ so that's what I'm going for tonight, thanks for the help gents!
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Good luck

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