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My N1 is rooted running CyanogenMOD 5.0.7.1, color trackball alerts, the Desire Camera, Helix Launcher, etc... basically all the goodies. I know a lot of people in my situation went back to stock and flashed the pre-release Froyo. My question is why? I watched the Google I/O conference and yeah, Froyo looks great, but it doesn't seem like there's anything (other than Flash) that Froyo can do that all these custom ROM's out there can't. Is there something in Froyo I'm missing that I can't get in these custom ROM's? I'm thinking about just waiting until Cyanogen comes out with his own custom Froyo ROM....
I think it's the google apps that are different. they look good and work better. for me the Froyo didn't had the bugs that where in eclair. Btw the live wallpapers work better on froyo.
Mainly - Flash, JIT and a speedier browser. Nothing that can't wait for a month.
Browser speed is enough for me, since that's what I use most on my phone.
- JIT
- Flash
- Chrome to Phone
- Install to SD (without having to deal with creating the SD partitions)
- Froyo Radio is more stable/reliable (from my own experiences anyway)
I'm also using pershoot's .34 kernel and LauncherPro and the overall "experience" is excellent.
Way better than CM5.0.7.x? No, but it was enough for me to jump on the bandwagon.
i'm the opposite kinda, i am using cm 507 and WANT to try out froyo, but not sure if its gonna be worth it cause A) i dont wannt burn in my screen any worse with that horrible white notification bar, and B) not sure about the new radio update (is it better or worse?).
i'm the opposite kinda, i am using cm 507 and WANT to try out froyo, but not sure if its gonna be worth it cause A) i dont wannt burn in my screen any worse with that horrible white notification bar, and B) not sure about the new radio update (is it better or worse?).
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A burn isnt because froyo. It isnt even a burn it isnt annoying me. I even can barely see it. I have my nexus almost 4 months and always used white bar and the burn is almost invisible i had to lool closely to see it
B for me the new radio is way better have more bars. The 3g speed at home has improved. So i am happy with it
You can try froyo if you dont like it go back to cm.
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commodoor said:
A burn isnt because froyo. It isnt even a burn it isnt annoying me. I even can barely see it.
B for me the new radio is way better have more bars. The 3g speed at home has improved. So i am happy with it
You can try froyo if you dont like it go back to cm.
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the burn in i'm talking about is when using the standard white notification bar. this has been permanently burning in your screen and many people have it including me. since froyo cant truly change the notification bar color, using froyo will continue to worsen your screen using that horrid white notification bar. this is why i'm hesitant on switching.
about the new radio, i've read both good and bad. some people love it, and others hate it. so i dont know which to believe until i try it myself. again, this is the reason i havent yet jumped at froyo. of course i could always switch back if i dont like it. but laziness....
Bluetooth implementation is better in Froyo with my headset at least. For that alone I won't go back
If you're worried about burn in, the latest version of launcherpro lets you hide the notification bar.
I'm currently using it, my notification bar is hidden, and I'm on completely stock 2.1 unrooted rom.
I was happily running CM5.0.7.1 and decided to try FroYo. I found that the benefits were no where near enough to outweigh the excellent features I was missing from CM (not least the themes).
In the end I decided to go back (although in the process managed to brick my phone in a new and never-before-seen way but thats another story!)
In any case, the FroYo that is about turned out to be a non-final version that was pushed out by mistake. Google has since withdrawn it.
My advice is to just wait until the FroYo code is in AOSP and Cyanogen releases a CM6 branch based on it.
CM6(when it appears)>rooted 2.2>CM5.0.7>2.1 Which is why I'm using 2.2
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If you're worried about burn in, the latest version of launcherpro lets you hide the notification bar.
I'm currently using it, my notification bar is hidden, and I'm on completely stock 2.1 unrooted rom.
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i wonder if it works on froyo. so does it hide the notification bar all the time, or only on certain screens? how do you pull down the notification shade?
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i wonder if it works on froyo. so does it hide the notification bar all the time, or only on certain screens? how do you pull down the notification shade?
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Works on froyo. Only hides the notification bar when you are on homescreens. To bring it down you just hit the menu button, and it'll show.
Namuna said:
- JIT
- Flash
- Chrome to Phone
- Install to SD (without having to deal with creating the SD partitions)
- Froyo Radio is more stable/reliable (from my own experiences anyway)
I'm also using pershoot's .34 kernel and LauncherPro and the overall "experience" is excellent.
Way better than CM5.0.7.x? No, but it was enough for me to jump on the bandwagon.
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I agree with you. It all depends on what you use your phone for. The things named up above is what matters most to me. Little customizations like themes. I have apps that are taking advantage of jit, there is no way I'm going back to cyanogen until next release. If apps2sd didn't work then I would go back but even that works
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I upgraded from CM5.0.6 to Froyo. I loved the JIT and the new Gmail app, but in the end it was a wee bit too unstable for me for daily use, so I went back to 5.0.6 and then upgraded to 5.0.7.
My Froyo has proven VERY stable for me.
I love the new Gmail app, now I can receive Gmail from my other account and stop having to forward everything.
JIT? man oh man, I love how my Nexus flies now!
It is noticeable faster than before!!
Apps2SD was never a concern for me, as I keep things to a minimum.
Will I go back to Cyanogen?
Nope.
But I will upgrade to a Cyanogen powered 2.2
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Works on froyo. Only hides the notification bar when you are on homescreens. To bring it down you just hit the menu button, and it'll show.
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yeah i finally tried it out. and i finally updated to froyo too tonight.
Hey All,
I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I'm tired of the version 2.1 stock ROM for the Sprint Hero. Even when its rooted and I clean out all the bloatware its still sluggish, buggy, and it has lately been aggravating me to no end. I want a nice lightweight ROM that has everything working (radio, wifi, data, etc.) but I don't want the HTC Sense UI if possible. Also, if it could have built in wifi tether (because all the apps I've used on the stock ROM tend to lock up or reboot the device) that would be great. Also, Apps2SD would also be nice but not a requirement.
Can someone recommend a good one?
Thanks in advance!
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Hey All,
I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I'm tired of the version 2.1 stock ROM for the Sprint Hero. Even when its rooted and I clean out all the bloatware its still sluggish, buggy, and it has lately been aggravating me to no end. I want a nice lightweight ROM that has everything working (radio, wifi, data, etc.) but I don't want the HTC Sense UI if possible. Also, if it could have built in wifi tether (because all the apps I've used on the stock ROM tend to lock up or reboot the device) that would be great. Also, Apps2SD would also be nice but not a requirement.
Can someone recommend a good one?
Thanks in advance!
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you are posting in the way wrong section this would have been better suited in general or Q&A
but my recommendation for you would be CM7 the official release for the HeroC, its stock android with some flavor. good battery life, apps2sd supported via built in manager (added in 2.2). built in tethering in the device settings menu (AOSP 2.3 feature) and last but not least it's AOSP based so SenseUI is nowhere to be found
I have tried all and in my mind the fastest has been hero deck. I even turned down my MHz to 691 when I use to have it at 768.
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Deck's rom is fast....No doubt, but.....if you're looking for a blend of speed and stability I'd listen to ThoughtlessKyle and go with CM7. That is what I put back on my Hero for my son to use.
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you are posting in the way wrong section this would have been better suited in general or Q&A
but my recommendation for you would be CM7 the official release for the HeroC, its stock android with some flavor. good battery life, apps2sd supported via built in manager (added in 2.2). built in tethering in the device settings menu (AOSP 2.3 feature) and last but not least it's AOSP based so SenseUI is nowhere to be found
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I'll definitely look into both ROMs. Thanks for the help!
My stock rom ran into issues the other day. Force close loop on senseui or something. Basically required a factory reset so while I was at it I decided to put a new rom on. I went with CM7. Had done a bunch of reading in the past and everyone was using CM6 then. Its nice. The one thing I didnt like is the voicemail. Getting it setup to download my voicemails to the phone was kinda a pain and the annoying texts from 9016 get old quick. Not sure why there is no solution for this. And running a separate program to block messages from 9016 isnt really a solution in my opinion.
I hear that deck rom has voicemail working with no additional installation/config necessary and none of the 9016 text messages so I plan to give it a try.
Hiya,
I'm considering whether to use a JVU or ICS rom. By looking around, I've seen many threads talking about how great ICS has with new features and so on, so this is probably a big plus point. However, I'm just wondering if there are still unresolved issues with ICS, it being based on an unofficial rom?
I know a while ago CM/MIUI were considered development roms, and not stable releases. Does this still hold true? Also, are there any features which ICS roms still have been unable to implement vs stock JVU? (eg tethering, gps, camera and so on).
Thanks!
If you want all features and stable rom then its recommended to use jvu.
Ics is very good but you have to sacrifice some features like video calling and touchwiz features. I haven't experienced any problems yet. Camera GPS tethering etc work fine on ics. I would recommend AOKP or CM9
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I also want to know the same issue before I move to ICS.
What is main benefit of ICS Roms even though many features are not functional like GB Roms ?
If you want a completely functional ROM (all features are working), then you better go for JVU since in ICS some features like video call and other minor things here and there are not working. Also, they're not based on unofficial release, most of them are based on google's releases (AOSP) which are official in a way or another, just not from the phone manufacturer themselves.
Personally i found ICS ROMs better due to the overall user experience, and they're smoother on the long run as compared to other JVU ROMs i've been using.
My advice is that if you don't really mind sacrificing minor features like video call (which most people don't really use anyway), go for ICS ROM! A lot of them got the tethering working alr. Gps, wifi, and other essentials are confirmed working perfectly
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If you want a completely functional ROM (all features are working), then you better go for JVU since in ICS some features like video call and other minor things here and there are not working. Also, they're not based on unofficial release, most of them are based on google's releases (AOSP) which are official in a way or another, just not from the phone manufacturer themselves.
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My understanding is that because it's not from Samsung, the ICS roms had to rewrite the drivers for hardware components like gps, camera or stuff like that from scratch, which is why there may be stuff not working.
I'm ok with no video call (since i've never used it), but are there any other features missing? Or are the minor things like random FC, or some small things just don't work properly. I find things like that somewhat annoying, so I'd rather stick with JVU if that's the case
Stuffs like random FCs and other not working minor things really depends on the ROMs. So far i found no random FCs apart from the camera which is the past anw (they fixed the stock ICS camera issue alr). If the devs or the bug reports never really mention any FCs, there's a high chance that you'll get a very smooth ROM (maybe there're things that are not working properly but chances are you won't realize it )
Also, most of the people who complained in the threads and bugreports never really followed the installation instructions properly which leads to their 'not supposed to be there bugs' coming to the phones.
By now most of the features of the ICS ROMs are working alr (obviously excluding those alpha and beta releases). The minor issues that you'll most likely get are with apps compatibility tho, a lot of the apps in the market are still not fully supporting ICS, so yeah.
My advice is that just follow the devs instructions thoroughly and you'll get a 95% chance of not encountering any problems with the ROMs . Don't blame me tho if you found troubles alr with your first ICS ROM later (if you decided to try it out )
How's battery life compared to stock roms? I think ICS roms usually don't last as long right? Any idea what a rough % amount less it lasts? (eg 20% shorter batt life or something)
If I have to give a percentage, abt <=10% less than the stock GB ROMs on average, tho mostly it depends on your kernel and usage.
The correct governor, kernel, and settings will be 50% (from my pov) of the deciding factor whether your battery lasts or not. Coz sometimes my battery actually lasts longer than when on stock GB ROMs. Personally I don't really like the stock ROM since they don't really offer me a good battery life considering the performance and free memory they've been giving me.
Personally I just started to try a bunch of different roms. For me the no1 priority is the ROM has to be stable. No FC, as little lag as possible and no random restarts. The ICS-roms I used had more problems than the Gingerbread-ROMS, allthough the speed in the latest ICS-ROMS is very good.
I'm currently still using Mintberry. The moment I go to ICS will depend on when Mintberry goes ICS. If it ever does, that is. I love the look&feel of ICS, but will not trade in stabillity for looks.
Both ICSSGS 4.2 and Dark Knight 3 are stable, everything ive used seems to work, even skype, so that ticks video calling as-well.
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Both ICSSGS 4.2 and Dark Knight 3 are stable, everything ive used seems to work, even skype, so that ticks video calling as-well.
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Does the fm radio work on the roms you mention? Without fm no ics for me...
DPI ISSUE
I recently flashed w/ ICS slim 2.8.
I observed that my Screen resolution is altered to DPI 182, meaning got bigger than 480x800 now.
Some Apps, such as IGO, have no suitable resolution for the new screen size.
I wanted to change to DPI 240 hoping to return to 480x800 but it crashed..
Keep in your mind that some apps are not running in ICS Roms..
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Does the fm radio work on the roms you mention? Without fm no ics for me...
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Far as I am aware fm radio works on team icssgs. You just need to use spirit fm app.
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Far as I am aware fm radio works on team icssgs. You just need to use spirit fm app.
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This, you have to use spirit FM. under settings set regional band to your region and set audion to -galasys ALSA/ICS.
Make sure you dont just quit the app either, you need to press the power button for the app in the bottom right corner everytime you leave it.
I've tried flashing ICSSGS, just a couple of features that stock has that I was wondering if ICS had some equivalent:
Is there a mod somewhere to show battery % instead of the battery icon on the top right?
Is there a quick way to toggle vibrate/sound? Stock had an option from the lockscreen, and also the pulldown notification menu
Is there some special procedure to set ringtones/alarm as music files? I seem to only see system sounds when I try to change it
Thanks!
Widgetsoid in market/play store gives ability to add widget into notification bar with toggles for what ever you want. You just need to set it up right.
I asked about the battery percentage display and eventually found the link myself. Will find it for you and post it in a moment
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20901576
This thread has All battery options
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I'm currently running 2.3.6 xxjw4 (rooted) and I rather like the official stock Samsung roms and I was wondering if there was a room that was kept as close to stock as possible for galaxy s and if so would it be worth me upgrading, what are the biggest improvements?
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i asked there same question, search for debate. I use slim 3.7 with semaphore, I get 399 mb ram, its very fast, multi tasking is awesome, very solid, only downside is gps is not as good with ics. Take a nandroid backup and try it, you'll love it
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multi tasking is awesome
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just curious.
multitasking for what?
I currently use stock gb jw5, and use at the same time gps+navi, music player and phone calls or text, with some background utilities (tasker, avast) with no problems at all.
btw, what's the use of multitasking with a small screen?
you cannot have several apps running on foreground at the same time. sgs is not a tablet, go figure a pc.
can you pls specify what kind of multitasking and in which way it is better than gb?
Does it have the tw launcher? And the big Widgets at the top of the status bar like a stock Samsung Rom?
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After encountering bugs in a few ICS rom's, I ran back to the more stable GB custom rom's. I've also noticed that battery backup is better on the GB rom's.
I'm open to suggestions and also willing to try if anyone here can recommend stable ICS rom's to me.
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just curious.
multitasking for what?
I currently use stock gb jw5, and use at the same time gps+navi, music player and phone calls or text, with some background utilities (tasker, avast) with no problems at all.
btw, what's the use of multitasking with a small screen?
you cannot have several apps running on foreground at the same time. sgs is not a tablet, go figure a pc.
can you pls specify what kind of multitasking and in which way it is better than gb?
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multitasking is the ability to run (or appear to run) more than 1 program at the same time, the SGS is generally restricted by memory meaning when you run a new app, another app has to stop in order to free up memory. ICS has more memory than GB (399mb) meaning more apps can run at the same time, meaning its better for multitasking. multitasking doesnt mean apps are running in the foreground. ICS also runs a lot faster and has more features. Take a nandroid backup and try it!
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multitasking is the ability to run (or appear to run) more than 1 program at the same time, the SGS is generally restricted by memory meaning when you run a new app, another app has to stop in order to free up memory. ICS has more memory than GB (399mb) meaning more apps can run at the same time, meaning its better for multitasking. multitasking doesnt mean apps are running in the foreground. ICS also runs a lot faster and has more features. Take a nandroid backup and try it!
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thanks, but
1- I know what multitasking is...
2- I tried quite any available flavour of ics.
my point is different. On my pc at work as a finance employee, I have lotus notes, bloomberg, matlab, 2 or more excel istances, and who knows what running at the same time. At home, as a photographer, I have the browser, photoshop, lightroom, music player and who knows what else running at the same time.
this is useful multitasking. Not multitasking for the sake of having something you can tell friends. Oh, my phone does multitasking! By saying it has more memory so it is better for multitasking means nothing, sorry I do not want to sound rude, but... better for what, I mean, in real user experience?
On my phone if I browse the web, I don't need to have a photoshop batch running at the same time. Or a time consuming routine under some statistical app. Well, I do not feel I NEED it. If you check out your friends' status in facebook, you're not texting a friend on your sms app.
So my question was: what do you really need multitasking for on your phone with a small screen? Me, I have navigation and music player up while I'm driving, and all services needed to have a phone and a messaging system. bluetooth to communicate with car audio system, data mobile for navigation, tasker to control the settings a bit... but this can be done smoothly and fast with gb, so... exactly in what ics multitasking is better than gb, I am not talking about specs, I talk about real use. did you experience any fc in gb that you do not get in ics? or what? Can you give me some examples where you can take advantage of multitasking in ics better than gb?
this could be a potentially good reason to try ics once again.
More memory so you can run more stuff, its faster, so stuff runs better, more stuff being developed so more options, thats it dude
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More memory so you can run more stuff, its faster, so stuff runs better, more stuff being developed so more options, thats it dude
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I know the specs. Don't be generic. "You can run more stuff". Such as?
What kind of PRACTICAL advantage you have in ics vs gb regarding multitasking??
can you provide examples in your daily use?
can you provide any info about your actual improvement?
How many apps do you run at the same time? Why?
How many apps are you able to run smoother and faster at the same time compared to gb?
Gingerbread xxjw4 is better than any ics rom. Trust me I've used cm9 , aokp , weui, and slimics.
Only if your feeling bored and just wanna play a bit you can try out ics. Its nice and different. But don't expect same functionality and stability as gb rom especially xxjw4.
And if you like the touchwiz features like swipe to call etc.. you'll be disappointed.
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Gingerbread xxjw4 is better than any ics rom. Trust me I've used cm9 , aokp , weui, and slimics.
Only if your feeling bored and just wanna play a bit you can try out ics. Its nice and different. But don't expect same functionality and stability as gb rom especially xxjw4.
And if you like the touchwiz features like swipe to call etc.. you'll be disappointed.
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agree 100%
while stock gb (jw5 in my case) looks like it perfectly fits sgs, imho the same does not apply for ics, so far. The reason to me is straightforward, stock sgs roms are hardware specific since they also include closed source drivers, as far as I know.
but of course, you'd better try and decide by yourself, ics is free!
last time I tried cm9 - a couple of weeks ago - I got some random reboots, but maybe I messed up things, I do not know, and maybe newer nightlies or other ics roms are more stable.
Hi.
I'm on ICS333 1.1 for two days now. I tried nearly all the other ics roms, but this one is the best, in my opinion. everything works fine.
I can't tell you if its possible to use an external sd-card (within ICS) because i'm not using one. But the rom is fast and smooth. gps, wifi, hspa, cam etc. is working without issues.
The only thing to mention is, that when locking the phone, you got access to the notification bar if you got the std lockscreen on (swype to unlock). so i'm using patternlock.
backup your efs-folder ans try it out.
greetz, andi. sry for my bad english
I actually use my phone to do stuff... not only tinker endlessly with it. I have Skype, Whatsapp, FB, Twitter running on the device at all times.
Last time I checked, when I boot my phone I have 768 MB in use! So when I open Chrome, or Logmein, it takes.. .forever. Even opening the dialer takes a couple of seconds. The phone itself is smooth - opening apps is what chokes my phone.
I don't overclock my phone (on JB it's impossible, anyway). But I don't think it's a GHz issue. I think that if I had 2 GB of RAM everything would be fine.
Anyway.
Should I get off JellyBean for the time being and go back to ICS? Or, would CM10 be faster and lighter?
I can't believe that when I got my Note a couple of months ago I thought it was blazing fast, and now it seems turtle-like when comparing it to my wife's Optimus 4X
In Cm10 or 10.1, ram usage is low and apps open fast too.
There are several things you can do to speed it up and lower the RAM usage. Easiest method would be to flash a tweaked ROM like Ultimate or Alliance, which already come with various optimizations. But what I found best regarding RAM usage was to install ROM Toolbox Pro, and tweak the settings under Memory Management. I use the "Advanced" or "Aggressive" profile.
This is, of course, if you want to stick with Samsung ROMs. Otherwise you could try CM/AOKP-based ROMs, some are much more lightweight than Samsung. The best in my opinion are SlimBean and Jellybam.
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I actually use my phone to do stuff... not only tinker endlessly with it. I have Skype, Whatsapp, FB, Twitter running on the device at all times.
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Then why flash an unfinished leak
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Then why flash an unfinished leak
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Because I honestly got so used to Google Now, I can't go back to ICS anymore.
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Because I honestly got so used to Google Now, I can't go back to ICS anymore.
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These is a mod for Google now on ics too
You should try Cassies Xtra lite 11.1 LSA (there is slight difference between LSC so dev didn't make a ROM that's based on LSC)
Than flash LSC kernel if u want and use V6 superecharger from zepp and your antutu will be somewhere near 10000!!!
Thanks tu CF,Zepp,Thering1975,Adam Outler,Eybee1970 and Philz.
Try this Ram Optimizer Pro...has different profiles to choose from....
http://db.tt/DDDJM8HP
Also if you wanna OC to 1.6gHz here ya go..just install the apk then load the module then set your speed..
http://db.tt/6zRyj353
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All the possibilities above are good alternatives to you, friend.
I use CM10.1 cause I'm always looking for good battery and smoothness.
As I'm too lazy to install and tweak those RAM optimizers, I always try custom ROMs.
Btw, Jelly Bam is trully great.