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[Q] What features would you like to see in a rom for your thrill?

Just to get used to the android OS dev side I am going to attempt to blend Meego/Maemo features with android. I will be using the V10k firmware as a basis.
I'm curious as to features you may wish to see in a rom. My main goals are:
Tri-screen functionality: Custom home, Apps, Running apps (Similair to Meego)
Customizable folders for the app screen
Onestop Keyboard (Swype, switch between qwerty and T9/numeric style)
3d functionality remaining
Possible Debian install
Removal of ALL spare apps. If it isn't required, it's gone.
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Possible extra features
Option to uninstall apps from app screen via long press.
Option to hide/lock apps
EDIT (Final):
PROGRESS: Android is a surpisingly easy OS to work on and there is a LOT of devel to look at in terms of starting points for coding. I currenty have a debian distro runningwith the android OS. Apt-get works fine, however there is not enough space install any application. This Rom may either be out very soon, or depending on memory issues my be impossible without relying on an SD.

Unlocked tether and wifi hot spot

I'm most concerned with battery longevity. Don't know if you'd call that a feature, but to me it's one of the most important parts.

Wish List for new ROM on LG Thrill
I love this Thrill, for the most part, but I wish that the Phone app, where you see the
Dial, Call Log, Contact and Groups, would work same way as the Stock Android does... basicaly, take out the Groups and put Favorits.
This Group to me is very slow every time I click on it takes 5 to 10 seconds to load.. and then I have to presse the Favorits... which I use the most... so..
Yes, I have about 1700 contacts on my list, but even with just a just contacts, this buttons GROÜPs is very slow.
Also, I wish that the Flash on teh 3D camera mode would work, because right now, only in 2D mode is that the Flash works... I think it is just a setting in some internal files or on the Camera apps that blocks the Flash when in Video or still pic.
Thanks and let us know if these changes are possible or not.
Ron

WIFI Unlock and tether: I belieive its been done on other roms so it should be no problem
Battery: I will see what I can do. The ROM will just be a bare bones OS so there should be very little to eat up the battery.
Contacts to favorites and camera flsh: I'll have to look into this and let you know.

melo2206 said:
Also, I wish that the Flash on teh 3D camera mode would work, because right now, only in 2D mode is that the Flash works... I think it is just a setting in some internal files or on the Camera apps that blocks the Flash when in Video or still pic.
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There is a reason behind the flash not working during 3D. They blocked it because the light from the flash messes with the 3D camera. Sure this could be a feature still, just saying this doesn't work for a good reason.
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Gingerbread, or Ice Cream Sandwich

. How would you guys feel about
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Gingerbread, or Ice Cream Sandwich
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I was actually thinking on waiting for the Gingerbread update before starting. The update should be coming anywhere between novemeber and the end of december.
If I wait, then it will give me a bit more time to get familiar with android as an OS andcome up with various way to get the maemo/meego/android mix feel just right. Progress has been fairly fast however. I'm still having memory issues with the debian however. Also, the UI get very buggy. I might just look into utilizing some outside programs.
How would you guys feel if I outed the stock home and keyboard and replaced it with someothing like GO launcher and keyboard?

As long as the keyboard has the speak to text capability, because although mines rooted with thriller, i don't like using swype just to have that option.. it should be on the default keyboards too.
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Ronacarino said:
As long as the keyboard has the speak to text capability, because although mines rooted with thriller, i don't like using swype just to have that option.. it should be on the default keyboards too.
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Stock android keyboard has speech to text. Its just disabled by default. I don't use the LG keyboard so I don't know about that one.
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Something else that would be nice is the ability to reboot into recovery. Not a big deal but a nice feature.
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Maybe Undervolting, anything to help battery life... patiently waiting for the Gingerbread update to arrive for the Thrill

The reboot option is actually a great idea Ill look into that, I probably will not have an undervolt OR even an overclock option as Im sure it will require a custom kernel. Kernel are something I rarely play with and when I do it's only a temp thing.

ieuo said:
The reboot option is actually a great idea Ill look into that, I probably will not have an undervolt OR even an overclock option as Im sure it will require a custom kernel. Kernel are something I rarely play with and when I do it's only a temp thing.
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The reboot option is used in thriller, oops wrong reboot. I think there was a reason the reboot to recovery didn't work, I remember reading about it in thriller thread.
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[Q] is anyone getting Lagging issues?

Had my tab 8.9 for about 2 days now and so far the only thing that's annoying me is the lag, the browser has crashed too many times to count and the home screen is constantly freezing and stuttering and ive noticed when i have about 4 apps open the task manager is showing under 100mb of ram left which is pitiful for the 1gb the tablet actually has,
Knowing my luck this is just a faulty unit and will need to be replaced asap before it pisses me of further and i end up throwing it down the mountain

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Had my tab 8.9 for about 2 days now and so far the only thing that's annoying me is the lag, the browser has crashed too many times to count and the home screen is constantly freezing and stuttering and ive noticed when i have about 4 apps open the task manager is showing under 100mb of ram left which is pitiful for the 1gb the tablet actually has,
Knowing my luck this is just a faulty unit and will need to be replaced asap before it pisses me of further and i end up throwing it down the mountain
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Strange take it back too shop or try it with different people wifi

I would say there is a lag issue by the number of posts in Google (try searching "samsung galaxy tab 8.9" AND lag).
A few things to check:
- Try an update (latest should be HC 3.2).
- Try different a browser (Dolphin HD is good option so check if crashing on different browser).
- I've read that turning off in Settings Animations helps and as well as Motion Settings.
- Try a different launcher. Have heard ADW makes things smoother (try Go Launcher as well).
- More drastic measures include installing a new rom but would wait for the ICS update (which is my golden hope to fix).
If still an issue, then take it back in to show them. I am hoping ICS does make things smoother.

Yes I am also pinning my hopes on ics as it should sort everything out, im on stock 3.2 atm but have also tried the overcome rom but don't know about changing the kernel to help speed things up or even over clocking. dolphin hd hasn't improved it that much if anything it just prolongs the time until the browser closes itself without warning, and ill give the settings a try and report. thanks for the help
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I would say there is a lag issue by the number of posts in Google (try searching "samsung galaxy tab 8.9" AND lag).
A few things to check:
- Try an update (latest should be HC 3.2).
- Try different a browser (Dolphin HD is good option so check if crashing on different browser).
- I've read that turning off in Settings Animations helps and as well as Motion Settings.
- Try a different launcher. Have heard ADW makes things smoother (try Go Launcher as well).
- More drastic measures include installing a new rom but would wait for the ICS update (which is my golden hope to fix).
If still an issue, then take it back in to show them. I am hoping ICS does make things smoother.
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Shouldn't be getting FC's on browsing so suggests something else.
Maybe a dalvik wipe is in order in cwm.
Btw, SetCPU which is a paid app allows you to oc and I think overcome has oc support. There are other free oc apps as well.
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What I've done is I've installed overcome rom and removed the animations in the settings and gyro settings and speed has drastically improved so thanks for the help guys. Although the overcome rom doesn't come with all the Widgets it only a minor let down

I play Android Drag Racing on my Tab and it does seem to lag a bit. I cannot hit the shifts that I can with my Galaxy S II; not even close. The 3.2 update did not help...

Yeah, this browser scroll lag is killing me. I've got an LTE and it scrolls so much slower than my Dell Steak on 2.2 scrolls so much smoother. My 8.9 feels like I'm pulling my finger through molasses. Even Opera scrolls slow. It is very annoying.

Ive just ordered one of these because they are on sale in the UK at the moment. It was either this or an original Xoom, both are £279 at the moment..
In the shop the xoom was silky smooth in either orientation, but the Tab was laggy. I just assumed it was the store unit that had been messed about with by customers. So it effects all units? It was pretty bad, i hope it can be fixed otherwise it will have to go back. Im beginning to think i made the wrong choice..

rovex said:
Ive just ordered one of these because they are on sale in the UK at the moment. It was either this or an original Xoom, both are £279 at the moment..
In the shop the xoom was silky smooth in either orientation, but the Tab was laggy. I just assumed it was the store unit that had been messed about with by customers. So it effects all units? It was pretty bad, i hope it can be fixed otherwise it will have to go back. Im beginning to think i made the wrong choice..
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Personally I do not think you have made the wrong choice. Any lag issues with the interface can be easily fixed by downloading a different launcher from Play Google The Xoom comes with the stock version of Android Honeycomb and this is why it appears smoother. Android Ice Cream Sandwich brings performance improvements so should be smoother even with Samsung's TouchWiz launcher in place once Samsung have released the update; alternatively you can install a different version of the OS, even a stock version through Galaxian-Soup, if you feel there are still issues.

Its not just that though is it. The browser is laggy, Maps was much slower, some games have issues and i have seen reports that the Xoom handles HD movie playback better. I really torn over this because i prefer the 8.9 physically, but the lag is a real killer. I factory reset a store tab today and it was still super laggy.
I have both arriving tomorrow which is when i will decide.
The Xoom has much more mature ICS ROMs with no issues. The ICS ROMs for the 8.9 still seem laggy in the vids i have seen.

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Yeah, this browser scroll lag is killing me. I've got an LTE and it scrolls so much slower than my Dell Steak on 2.2 scrolls so much smoother. My 8.9 feels like I'm pulling my finger through molasses. Even Opera scrolls slow. It is very annoying.
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You may be able to fix this with build.prop edits
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Performance issues are one thing, but complaining about "100MB of RAM left" is ignorant. The whole point of having RAM is to use it. Android isn't like Windows, it uses RAM to cache aggressively - a desirable behaviour.
In other words, if your tab isn't using most of the memory then you've got an inefficient device.

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Performance issues are one thing, but complaining about "100MB of RAM left" is ignorant. The whole point of having RAM is to use it. Android isn't like Windows, it uses RAM to cache aggressively - a desirable behaviour.
In other words, if your tab isn't using most of the memory then you've got an inefficient device.
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While I agree with the above statements, the tablet caching bloatware apps in RAM is still a waste. Why is the stupid thing cashing Social Hub, Media Hub, Samsung App Store, Accuweather, etc, when I don't have accounts set up on those or have them running on a homescreen or widget? On a fresh reboot, I can use the TW Task Manager's 'Clear Memory' button and it kills 20+ apps and frees ~200MB of RAM. Waste.

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Yeah, I tried all the build.prop tweaks but they don't seem to improve anything. I don't think hardware acceleration is working. Menus scroll fine but the browsers scroll poorly. I'm running the Telus rom with the OC kernel on my At&t unit.

Has anyone tried this mod?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1411317

[q] JVU compared to ICS

Hiya,
I'm considering whether to use a JVU or ICS rom. By looking around, I've seen many threads talking about how great ICS has with new features and so on, so this is probably a big plus point. However, I'm just wondering if there are still unresolved issues with ICS, it being based on an unofficial rom?
I know a while ago CM/MIUI were considered development roms, and not stable releases. Does this still hold true? Also, are there any features which ICS roms still have been unable to implement vs stock JVU? (eg tethering, gps, camera and so on).
Thanks!

If you want all features and stable rom then its recommended to use jvu.
Ics is very good but you have to sacrifice some features like video calling and touchwiz features. I haven't experienced any problems yet. Camera GPS tethering etc work fine on ics. I would recommend AOKP or CM9
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I also want to know the same issue before I move to ICS.
What is main benefit of ICS Roms even though many features are not functional like GB Roms ?

If you want a completely functional ROM (all features are working), then you better go for JVU since in ICS some features like video call and other minor things here and there are not working. Also, they're not based on unofficial release, most of them are based on google's releases (AOSP) which are official in a way or another, just not from the phone manufacturer themselves.
Personally i found ICS ROMs better due to the overall user experience, and they're smoother on the long run as compared to other JVU ROMs i've been using.
My advice is that if you don't really mind sacrificing minor features like video call (which most people don't really use anyway), go for ICS ROM! A lot of them got the tethering working alr. Gps, wifi, and other essentials are confirmed working perfectly

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If you want a completely functional ROM (all features are working), then you better go for JVU since in ICS some features like video call and other minor things here and there are not working. Also, they're not based on unofficial release, most of them are based on google's releases (AOSP) which are official in a way or another, just not from the phone manufacturer themselves.
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My understanding is that because it's not from Samsung, the ICS roms had to rewrite the drivers for hardware components like gps, camera or stuff like that from scratch, which is why there may be stuff not working.
I'm ok with no video call (since i've never used it), but are there any other features missing? Or are the minor things like random FC, or some small things just don't work properly. I find things like that somewhat annoying, so I'd rather stick with JVU if that's the case

Stuffs like random FCs and other not working minor things really depends on the ROMs. So far i found no random FCs apart from the camera which is the past anw (they fixed the stock ICS camera issue alr). If the devs or the bug reports never really mention any FCs, there's a high chance that you'll get a very smooth ROM (maybe there're things that are not working properly but chances are you won't realize it )
Also, most of the people who complained in the threads and bugreports never really followed the installation instructions properly which leads to their 'not supposed to be there bugs' coming to the phones.
By now most of the features of the ICS ROMs are working alr (obviously excluding those alpha and beta releases). The minor issues that you'll most likely get are with apps compatibility tho, a lot of the apps in the market are still not fully supporting ICS, so yeah.
My advice is that just follow the devs instructions thoroughly and you'll get a 95% chance of not encountering any problems with the ROMs . Don't blame me tho if you found troubles alr with your first ICS ROM later (if you decided to try it out )

How's battery life compared to stock roms? I think ICS roms usually don't last as long right? Any idea what a rough % amount less it lasts? (eg 20% shorter batt life or something)

If I have to give a percentage, abt <=10% less than the stock GB ROMs on average, tho mostly it depends on your kernel and usage.
The correct governor, kernel, and settings will be 50% (from my pov) of the deciding factor whether your battery lasts or not. Coz sometimes my battery actually lasts longer than when on stock GB ROMs. Personally I don't really like the stock ROM since they don't really offer me a good battery life considering the performance and free memory they've been giving me.

Personally I just started to try a bunch of different roms. For me the no1 priority is the ROM has to be stable. No FC, as little lag as possible and no random restarts. The ICS-roms I used had more problems than the Gingerbread-ROMS, allthough the speed in the latest ICS-ROMS is very good.
I'm currently still using Mintberry. The moment I go to ICS will depend on when Mintberry goes ICS. If it ever does, that is. I love the look&feel of ICS, but will not trade in stabillity for looks.

Both ICSSGS 4.2 and Dark Knight 3 are stable, everything ive used seems to work, even skype, so that ticks video calling as-well.

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Both ICSSGS 4.2 and Dark Knight 3 are stable, everything ive used seems to work, even skype, so that ticks video calling as-well.
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Does the fm radio work on the roms you mention? Without fm no ics for me...

DPI ISSUE
I recently flashed w/ ICS slim 2.8.
I observed that my Screen resolution is altered to DPI 182, meaning got bigger than 480x800 now.
Some Apps, such as IGO, have no suitable resolution for the new screen size.
I wanted to change to DPI 240 hoping to return to 480x800 but it crashed..
Keep in your mind that some apps are not running in ICS Roms..

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Does the fm radio work on the roms you mention? Without fm no ics for me...
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Far as I am aware fm radio works on team icssgs. You just need to use spirit fm app.
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scubadude said:
Far as I am aware fm radio works on team icssgs. You just need to use spirit fm app.
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This, you have to use spirit FM. under settings set regional band to your region and set audion to -galasys ALSA/ICS.
Make sure you dont just quit the app either, you need to press the power button for the app in the bottom right corner everytime you leave it.

I've tried flashing ICSSGS, just a couple of features that stock has that I was wondering if ICS had some equivalent:
Is there a mod somewhere to show battery % instead of the battery icon on the top right?
Is there a quick way to toggle vibrate/sound? Stock had an option from the lockscreen, and also the pulldown notification menu
Is there some special procedure to set ringtones/alarm as music files? I seem to only see system sounds when I try to change it
Thanks!

Widgetsoid in market/play store gives ability to add widget into notification bar with toggles for what ever you want. You just need to set it up right.
I asked about the battery percentage display and eventually found the link myself. Will find it for you and post it in a moment
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20901576
This thread has All battery options
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Apps aren't staying up on DM 1.5 b5

So, I'm using DjangoManouche 1.5b5. Kernel is Gueste's 1.3.3(?) OC version. I chose 20s and I'm just wondering what is the difference between that and 20q(I live in FIN if it matters). I chose better multitasking, Pdroid and FD. What are Pdroid and FD?
In anyway, icQ, Tapatalk and Dolphin browser HD aren't staying up. It's a little annoying because I cannot get pop-up messages in icQ and the browser must reload pages every time. It happens when I'm using any other app for a few minutes and trying to use the previously used one.
The problem came back with DM ROM and I had some kind of lightly customized CM ROM. I just would like to fix that problem if it could be possible. Sorry for postig that problem on that sectio but I have no rights to post in development section yet.

Pdroid is privacy framework, FD is fast dormacy. It looks like youre low on ram. I would suggest to use latest cm kang with etana kernel with 48 ramhack.
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xtrustkillx said:
Pdroid is privacy framework, FD is fast dormacy. It looks like youre low on ram. I would suggest to use latest cm kang with etana kernel with 48 ramhack.
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no offense to anyone or any ROM, if it is the free RAM which is the cause, I would suggest that your stock ROM based choice is more than good...I am on DJ1.5B5 and I have a minimum of 140Mb always and have no issues....
so, investigate using different options mate....I can guarantee this ROM ....and its performance

I don't want to change to different rom. That rom has a lot pf options and there must be a way to make it work. I have Lg's launcher, which can take too much RAM. I should change that to Adw launcher. Well, do you have any recommendations what I should change?

HateBreeder_ said:
I don't want to change to different rom. That rom has a lot pf options and there must be a way to make it work. I have Lg's launcher, which can take too much RAM. I should change that to Adw launcher. Well, do you have any recommendations what I should change?
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I assume you have installed with an option to have a lot of free RAM. Whaddayouknow, to have a lot of free RAM the system will kill background apps.
Reinstall DM with stock OOM values, or if you know how, change them back to stock values.

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I assume you have installed with an option to have a lot of free RAM. Whaddayouknow, to have a lot of free RAM the system will kill background apps.
Reinstall DM with stock OOM values, or if you know how, change them back to stock values.
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Im using better multitasking. Could you give me a tip how to change values without reinstallation?

BTW, I have worse problem than that. I cannot set music volume any lower in Poweramp. I set it to zero and still I hear music too loud. The problem doesn't exist in Youtube(adding volume is still a little bad). What can I do because I dont want to destroy my ears?
Edit: I paussed the music player and now it's a lot better. I added some volume when the player was paussed and then it was better. Still I cant set volume as much as I want. Help, please.
Edit 2: Okay guys, I fixed that. I disabled direct volume contol and now it's normal.

My phone is SLOW. (I'm on Sammy's JB leak). What can I do to speed things up?

I actually use my phone to do stuff... not only tinker endlessly with it. I have Skype, Whatsapp, FB, Twitter running on the device at all times.
Last time I checked, when I boot my phone I have 768 MB in use! So when I open Chrome, or Logmein, it takes.. .forever. Even opening the dialer takes a couple of seconds. The phone itself is smooth - opening apps is what chokes my phone.
I don't overclock my phone (on JB it's impossible, anyway). But I don't think it's a GHz issue. I think that if I had 2 GB of RAM everything would be fine.
Anyway.
Should I get off JellyBean for the time being and go back to ICS? Or, would CM10 be faster and lighter?
I can't believe that when I got my Note a couple of months ago I thought it was blazing fast, and now it seems turtle-like when comparing it to my wife's Optimus 4X

In Cm10 or 10.1, ram usage is low and apps open fast too.

There are several things you can do to speed it up and lower the RAM usage. Easiest method would be to flash a tweaked ROM like Ultimate or Alliance, which already come with various optimizations. But what I found best regarding RAM usage was to install ROM Toolbox Pro, and tweak the settings under Memory Management. I use the "Advanced" or "Aggressive" profile.
This is, of course, if you want to stick with Samsung ROMs. Otherwise you could try CM/AOKP-based ROMs, some are much more lightweight than Samsung. The best in my opinion are SlimBean and Jellybam.

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I actually use my phone to do stuff... not only tinker endlessly with it. I have Skype, Whatsapp, FB, Twitter running on the device at all times.
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Then why flash an unfinished leak

asf58967 said:
Then why flash an unfinished leak
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Because I honestly got so used to Google Now, I can't go back to ICS anymore.

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Because I honestly got so used to Google Now, I can't go back to ICS anymore.
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These is a mod for Google now on ics too

You should try Cassies Xtra lite 11.1 LSA (there is slight difference between LSC so dev didn't make a ROM that's based on LSC)
Than flash LSC kernel if u want and use V6 superecharger from zepp and your antutu will be somewhere near 10000!!!
Thanks tu CF,Zepp,Thering1975,Adam Outler,Eybee1970 and Philz.

Try this Ram Optimizer Pro...has different profiles to choose from....
http://db.tt/DDDJM8HP
Also if you wanna OC to 1.6gHz here ya go..just install the apk then load the module then set your speed..
http://db.tt/6zRyj353
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All the possibilities above are good alternatives to you, friend.
I use CM10.1 cause I'm always looking for good battery and smoothness.
As I'm too lazy to install and tweak those RAM optimizers, I always try custom ROMs.
Btw, Jelly Bam is trully great.