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Improve Multitasking?

I already know that on the captivate multitasking is only done with the most recent open/used apps and what not, but is there a rom or something that can enable our phone to have full-fledged multitasking like the wretched iPhone4.

chraz13 said:
I already know that on the captivate multitasking is only done with the most recent open/used apps and what not, but is there a rom or something that can enable our phone to have full-fledged multitasking like the wretched iPhone4.
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there are market apps that do this. it is not a limitation of android but more a limitation of the launchers. the iphone doesn't multi task any different from android and android did it first. having standard controls in android helps out alot too. back button to home screen closes the app and home button leaves it running. if you hit home out of an app then when you restart it from the launcher or the long press home it will be as it was.
one app that comes to mind is itching thumb, but it is a bit of a pig and can slow down the phone with touchwiz launcher. it may be better with gingerbread launcher adw or launcher2. it does multitasking in a visual way that resembles web os's where you can see screen shots of all the active and cached apps. another one is visual task switch and there was one i used to use but cant remember. if there is something that you were using and it's missing from the open apps it can be do to a rom with strict minfree settings. running the settings slightly more agressive than stock can boost performance but some take it too far. even a slightly stricter setting will kill all share mid movie so you really want to keep it to conservative settings.

WebOS got multitasking right. It's a pity the Phone hardware was so bad.

The iPhone does NOT have multi tasking.
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gunnyman said:
WebOS got multitasking right. It's a pity the Phone hardware was so bad.
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lol.. that might be changing - I watched the latest HP dog and pony show and it looked pretty sweet. (And being at an HP facility I can say I am NOT an HP fan whatsover!!)
And um.. iPhone does not have multi tasking. It has a "freeze" state it will put the application (if coded for it) in the background while the app that is currently displayed is running in the foreground. Once it is closed and you bring that "frozen" application back it will start where it left off.

Yea the best multi taking that I have seen has been with the latest palm phones. Although never played with a winmobile phone.
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The .32 kernel is less stable than .29?

I don't know if anybody else is having the same problems. I had the 1.3ghz kernel with cm7 on my nook for a long time, and it was super stable. It never freezed on me or anything. But now, with the new .32 kernel that we have to use for the newest nightlies, my nook is freezing up all the time. Does anyone know when Dal is gonna update his kernel?

I agree. I get periodic freezes with .32. Hoping for an update because otherwise it works very well. Much improved power management and battery life from .29.

I just went from 7.0.2, to nightly eighty-seven. Using the 1.2GHz 5/23 OC kernel. I did not wipe data/system, only formatted cache/Delvik-cache.
I'm seeing a SIGNIFICANT increase in system performance, screen and window transitions mainly, also App launches seem slightly faster. Which surprises me because I run alot of memory/processor heavy widgets with my system settings tailored for quality. I would venture saying an almost two-fold increase in reaction time and general snappyness. I'm also no longer getting startup FC'S on boot, and just better general app stability
Before, I was unable to get the 1.2GHz OC working with the 2.6.29 kernel. The nook would either crash on startup or shortly after. Not a single crash since making the upgrade to 2.6.32 and the corresponding OS upgrade. I'm sure this speed increase is playing its fair share in my performance observations.
One of us might be experiencing an atypical situation. it's hard to say, especially with being in the middle of an 'official' kernel upgrade and rollout.
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.32 kernel works here rock solid - no freezes.

I tend to get lock ups when waking up my device, then it tells me ADWLauncher isn't responding and have to wait a while before it comes back to life. Only started happening after moving to the .32 kernel and nightly #87.

Yeah It seems like its a hit and miss for some people. Something weird is definitely going on here. Mine freezes A LOT and often in the first 30 seconds of start-up, which leaves me having to turn the Nook Color on and off many times before getting it to finally work. I never had this problem with the .29 overclock kernel before. When we had the 925mhz OC included in the older nightlies, mine would always freeze. When we had the 1.3ghz .29 kernel, mine was rock solid. Now with the .32 kernel at 1.2ghz, it freeezes. Its an endless cycle lol.

I had significant and frequent system freezes that I finally narrowed down to a widget. Try removing Widgets to see if that helps. If you find the culprit, uninstall then reinstall.

lyam23 said:
I had significant and frequent system freezes that I finally narrowed down to a widget. Try removing Widgets to see if that helps. If you find the culprit, uninstall then reinstall.
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This is my next aspect on tracking down SOD; apps.... Good idea though, one easy way to do this is install a secondary launcher and use it for a while with no widgets, especially if you're like me and have like a dozen widgets. Otherwise yeah just remove 'em and see what happens.
Widgets for no day though? Gah

khaytsus said:
This is my next aspect on tracking down SOD; apps.... Good idea though, one easy way to do this is install a secondary launcher and use it for a while with no widgets, especially if you're like me and have like a dozen widgets. Otherwise yeah just remove 'em and see what happens.
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Exactly what I did, in fact. Moved to ADW for a while with no Widgets. At first I suspected the launcher then realized it was a widget when I later added the widget and immediately experienced a freeze.

lyam23 said:
Exactly what I did, in fact. Moved to ADW for a while with no Widgets. At first I suspected the launcher then realized it was a widget when I later added the widget and immediately experienced a freeze.
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Which widget? I am pondering creating another form for folks to fill out, this time based on the Widgets I have.. but that'll be difficult to track down really..

Beautiful Widgets: Beautiful Home Weather.
Other BW widgets seem to work ok, though I've not tested them all.

lyam23 said:
Beautiful Widgets: Beautiful Home Weather.
Other BW widgets seem to work ok, though I've not tested them all.
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k, yeah, don't use BW.. I use.... a bunch of others though.

I tried getting rid of all of my widgets... No dice though. Didn't make any difference for me, still pretty unstable. I'm really hoping for an update soon... I'm worried though cuz I think Dal said a while ago that he wasn't gonna work on it for a while cuz its pretty much finished lol

Bad Theme
speaking of widgets, last week after a reboot because of SOD my nook had a bad case of FCs with ADW trying to load my widgets. after trying lots of different things I finally got it back up and running. after trial and error I figured out it was the theme that I was using in fancy widgets pro. I uninstall and re-download it and all is well again. so be careful, its not just the widget. make sure to also check the theme.

Yeah I thought it might be that also, so I changed to the default theme and used the default cm7 wallpaper. Still no luck. I'm pretty confident this issue has something to do with the kernel

Random lag while scrolling, opening app ...

Hey all,
Thank's for a great forum. I've been searching everything I could find about this weird behavior on the Samsung Galaxy Note.
1. I made factory reset.
2. Formatted SD
3. Rooted and installed RocketRom V17 with Abyssnote 3.0.
4. Regardless of launcher, LauncherPro, Go Launcher, ADW Launcher, SPB Shell 3D I still experience lag when scrolling, opening apps (random freeze lag with 1-2 seconds).
5. Even with wiping cache, reboot several times, using SetCPU, Autostart, Memorykillers etc... still lag appears every know and then.
At the moment I've given upp and can't find any solution the problem more than it is faulty hardware. It's kinda annoying when showing the phone to friends and you click on facebook, 1-2 seconds lag, or clicking on sms or gallery and you have 1-2 seconds lag, same sometimes when you click on camera... There’s nearly a 2 second delay when you take the phone away from your ear. The screen takes a long time to reappear so you can just hang up the call or sometimes even answer the call.
I know that a lot of people don't care about this but with this phone being such a masterpiece this shouldn't happen.
GT-N7000
Android 2.3.6
Baseband N7000XXLA1
2.6.35.14-ver.3.0
[email protected] #3
Rocket-V17-XXLA1-eyebe1970
Any tips or should I just suck it up

same
Same problem the lag is annoyin as hell. Bought note 2 days ago and feel like returning it until I tryed ics alpha which is smoother than stock roms, but way too buggy.
So the only reason I'm keaping this laggy phone is ics.
Btw galaxy nexus lags as much without 2d acceleration.

Well don't get me wrong, the phone is really fast and the GPS is amazing, fastets and best I've seen in a phone. Sometimes when driving I activate it, use google maps and satelite view, blows people away since their Iphones can't keep up.

i hv experience lagginess as well on all 3rd party launcher. LauncherPro being the smoothest, but the lag still there. I end up using stock TWlauncher, coz thats the only launcher that i will call smooth.
For this issue i would not call it a hardware problem.. Do you have the same lag as well on stock TWlauncher? On TWlauncher I would say its 100% buttery smooth, at least on mine.
So, but those launcher running fine on other phone, why would it lag on G.Note?
I believe its the 1280x800 high resolution that these 3rd party launcher are not designed to handle. But the way I see it, its not hardware problem.

Dude same problem here with 2 to 3 sec of lag, I have the exact same version of ROM as yours and I'm facing the same problem, I tried almost everything, so many apps and mods but nothing works it's always there. One moment its buttery smooth and the next it lags and I just got over it....
Other than that it just works fine.......
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rey5757 said:
i hv experience lagginess as well on all 3rd party launcher. LauncherPro being the smoothest, but the lag still there. I end up using stock TWlauncher, coz thats the only launcher that i will call smooth.
For this issue i would not call it a hardware problem.. Do you have the same lag as well on stock TWlauncher? On TWlauncher I would say its 100% buttery smooth, at least on mine.
So, but those launcher running fine on other phone, why would it lag on G.Note?
I believe its the 1280x800 high resolution that these 3rd party launcher are not designed to handle. But the way I see it, its not hardware problem.
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Well the lag, with scrolling is there sometimes on touchwiz especially when going from homemenu to appdrawer but, the main problem I'd say is the 1-3 seconds lag when clicking on an app installed/system. With LauncherPRO I have 0 lag with scrolling both in Homemenu with widgets and going from home to appdrawer.
I know that IOS and Android need to first start apps and then it will stay in memory for faster start the next time, but even frequently used ones like Contacts or SMS or SETTINGS or FACEBOOK will have the 1-3 second lags even if I started them and jump out using home menu. I think this i generally after a lockscreen or screen going dark or phone being idle. And I'm using default locksreen. This will not happen everytime and thats why I assume it's either a hardware issue with RAM or bad memory management, like I remember I saw on IOS when they started with MULTITASKING. I was searching and found people having LAG or FREEZE after a lockscreen, but the solutions for that didn't make my 1-3 random lag go away unfortunelty.
Thansk for a great forum and I hope we don't go black on the 18th.

I think the random bits of lag have a lot to do with the cpu governor. Which cpu governors are you guys using? If u monitor your cpu frequency with a widget you'll notice the lag is only when there's a drop in cpu clock. Using lulzactive i see some occasional lag. Lesser with ondemand and least with performance of course. Wonder if there's a way to adjust response times for the governors.
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For ondemand governor, there is.
In directory /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand
There are a few files controlling the parameters of this governor. The ones that might make this governor raise speed faster are up_threshold and sampling_rate.

At the moment I'm trying without SetCPU since my friends Note is default everything, however I will try SetCPU and Performance and see ... I don't care bout battery life since I'm used to charge my phone everyday.

Worth getting ics?

I'm currently running 2.3.6 xxjw4 (rooted) and I rather like the official stock Samsung roms and I was wondering if there was a room that was kept as close to stock as possible for galaxy s and if so would it be worth me upgrading, what are the biggest improvements?
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i asked there same question, search for debate. I use slim 3.7 with semaphore, I get 399 mb ram, its very fast, multi tasking is awesome, very solid, only downside is gps is not as good with ics. Take a nandroid backup and try it, you'll love it
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gsw5700 said:
multi tasking is awesome
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just curious.
multitasking for what?
I currently use stock gb jw5, and use at the same time gps+navi, music player and phone calls or text, with some background utilities (tasker, avast) with no problems at all.
btw, what's the use of multitasking with a small screen?
you cannot have several apps running on foreground at the same time. sgs is not a tablet, go figure a pc.
can you pls specify what kind of multitasking and in which way it is better than gb?

Does it have the tw launcher? And the big Widgets at the top of the status bar like a stock Samsung Rom?
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After encountering bugs in a few ICS rom's, I ran back to the more stable GB custom rom's. I've also noticed that battery backup is better on the GB rom's.
I'm open to suggestions and also willing to try if anyone here can recommend stable ICS rom's to me.

lcampori said:
just curious.
multitasking for what?
I currently use stock gb jw5, and use at the same time gps+navi, music player and phone calls or text, with some background utilities (tasker, avast) with no problems at all.
btw, what's the use of multitasking with a small screen?
you cannot have several apps running on foreground at the same time. sgs is not a tablet, go figure a pc.
can you pls specify what kind of multitasking and in which way it is better than gb?
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multitasking is the ability to run (or appear to run) more than 1 program at the same time, the SGS is generally restricted by memory meaning when you run a new app, another app has to stop in order to free up memory. ICS has more memory than GB (399mb) meaning more apps can run at the same time, meaning its better for multitasking. multitasking doesnt mean apps are running in the foreground. ICS also runs a lot faster and has more features. Take a nandroid backup and try it!
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gsw5700 said:
multitasking is the ability to run (or appear to run) more than 1 program at the same time, the SGS is generally restricted by memory meaning when you run a new app, another app has to stop in order to free up memory. ICS has more memory than GB (399mb) meaning more apps can run at the same time, meaning its better for multitasking. multitasking doesnt mean apps are running in the foreground. ICS also runs a lot faster and has more features. Take a nandroid backup and try it!
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thanks, but
1- I know what multitasking is...
2- I tried quite any available flavour of ics.
my point is different. On my pc at work as a finance employee, I have lotus notes, bloomberg, matlab, 2 or more excel istances, and who knows what running at the same time. At home, as a photographer, I have the browser, photoshop, lightroom, music player and who knows what else running at the same time.
this is useful multitasking. Not multitasking for the sake of having something you can tell friends. Oh, my phone does multitasking! By saying it has more memory so it is better for multitasking means nothing, sorry I do not want to sound rude, but... better for what, I mean, in real user experience?
On my phone if I browse the web, I don't need to have a photoshop batch running at the same time. Or a time consuming routine under some statistical app. Well, I do not feel I NEED it. If you check out your friends' status in facebook, you're not texting a friend on your sms app.
So my question was: what do you really need multitasking for on your phone with a small screen? Me, I have navigation and music player up while I'm driving, and all services needed to have a phone and a messaging system. bluetooth to communicate with car audio system, data mobile for navigation, tasker to control the settings a bit... but this can be done smoothly and fast with gb, so... exactly in what ics multitasking is better than gb, I am not talking about specs, I talk about real use. did you experience any fc in gb that you do not get in ics? or what? Can you give me some examples where you can take advantage of multitasking in ics better than gb?
this could be a potentially good reason to try ics once again.

More memory so you can run more stuff, its faster, so stuff runs better, more stuff being developed so more options, thats it dude
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gsw5700 said:
More memory so you can run more stuff, its faster, so stuff runs better, more stuff being developed so more options, thats it dude
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I know the specs. Don't be generic. "You can run more stuff". Such as?
What kind of PRACTICAL advantage you have in ics vs gb regarding multitasking??
can you provide examples in your daily use?
can you provide any info about your actual improvement?
How many apps do you run at the same time? Why?
How many apps are you able to run smoother and faster at the same time compared to gb?

Gingerbread xxjw4 is better than any ics rom. Trust me I've used cm9 , aokp , weui, and slimics.
Only if your feeling bored and just wanna play a bit you can try out ics. Its nice and different. But don't expect same functionality and stability as gb rom especially xxjw4.
And if you like the touchwiz features like swipe to call etc.. you'll be disappointed.

gcuchiha said:
Gingerbread xxjw4 is better than any ics rom. Trust me I've used cm9 , aokp , weui, and slimics.
Only if your feeling bored and just wanna play a bit you can try out ics. Its nice and different. But don't expect same functionality and stability as gb rom especially xxjw4.
And if you like the touchwiz features like swipe to call etc.. you'll be disappointed.
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agree 100%
while stock gb (jw5 in my case) looks like it perfectly fits sgs, imho the same does not apply for ics, so far. The reason to me is straightforward, stock sgs roms are hardware specific since they also include closed source drivers, as far as I know.
but of course, you'd better try and decide by yourself, ics is free!
last time I tried cm9 - a couple of weeks ago - I got some random reboots, but maybe I messed up things, I do not know, and maybe newer nightlies or other ics roms are more stable.

Hi.
I'm on ICS333 1.1 for two days now. I tried nearly all the other ics roms, but this one is the best, in my opinion. everything works fine.
I can't tell you if its possible to use an external sd-card (within ICS) because i'm not using one. But the rom is fast and smooth. gps, wifi, hspa, cam etc. is working without issues.
The only thing to mention is, that when locking the phone, you got access to the notification bar if you got the std lockscreen on (swype to unlock). so i'm using patternlock.
backup your efs-folder ans try it out.
greetz, andi. sry for my bad english

Phone is soooo slow!!!

Afternoon peeps,
Recently my Mini 2 has just ground to an unusable, good-for-nothing pile of crap.
- It is soooo slow to do anything.
- It rotates the screen when it's not being rotated.
- It locks in the middle of performing tasks.
- It blacks out for 30 seconds or so before becoming responsive again.
- Voice on Google Maps or Runkeeper apps keeps glitching.
I'm running CM12 [12-20150411-NIGHTLY-memul] with TWRP recovery.
Reinstalling the ROM returns the phone to a normal function, temporarily, before descending into chaos.
Clearing the cache partition sort of works....for a little while.
I/O Scheduler is ROW.
Storage isn't anywhere near full with 3.65Gb free.
Available RAM is on average about 170Mb
My thoughts are that an app is causing this.
Can anyone throw some troubleshooting ideas into the pot?
Thanks
E

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Afternoon peeps,
Recently my Mini 2 has just ground to an unusable, good-for-nothing pile of crap.
- It is soooo slow to do anything.
- It rotates the screen when it's not being rotated.
- It locks in the middle of performing tasks.
- It blacks out for 30 seconds or so before becoming responsive again.
- Voice on Google Maps or Runkeeper apps keeps glitching.
I'm running CM12 [12-20150411-NIGHTLY-memul] with TWRP recovery.
Reinstalling the ROM returns the phone to a normal function, temporarily, before descending into chaos.
Clearing the cache partition sort of works....for a little while.
I/O Scheduler is ROW.
Storage isn't anywhere near full with 3.65Gb free.
Available RAM is on average about 170Mb
My thoughts are that an app is causing this.
Can anyone throw some troubleshooting ideas into the pot?
Thanks
E
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Clearing cache and ram just makes it worst as Android works different from PC's.
It seems you're in the good path as just need to find what APP is doing that. Providing that you run CM12 without extras and its ok, than try install/uninstall one app at the time until you find the one its causing trouble

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Clearing cache and ram just makes it worst as Android works different from PC's.
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Thanks for the response. With reagrd to the above, How so?
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It seems you're in the good path as just need to find what APP is doing that. Providing that you run CM12 without extras and its ok, than try install/uninstall one app at the time until you find the one its causing trouble to
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I thought that might be the case. Also, I'm gettimg a lot of Background App crashes/Not responding, but there're no patterns. OneFootball, Media Storage, System UI, Google+, Facebook Messenger all make an appearance.
I think i may have to start from a fresh again

..eredn.. said:
Thanks for the response. With reagrd to the above, How so?
I thought that might be the case. Also, I'm gettimg a lot of Background App crashes/Not responding, but there're no patterns. OneFootball, Media Storage, System UI, Google+, Facebook Messenger all make an appearance.
I think i may have to start from a fresh again
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Well CM12 its a bit buggy so if you gonna run high end apps i suggest stock ROM.
Regarding RAM, android manages that pretty well for you. The more ram in use, the better things work. (if you know how RAM works) same thing with cache. So don't use stupid programs to clear RAM as they are useless.
You can google for more info.

kativiti said:
Well CM12 its a bit buggy so if you gonna run high end apps i suggest stock ROM.
Regarding RAM, android manages that pretty well for you. The more ram in use, the better things work. (if you know how RAM works) same thing with cache. So don't use stupid programs to clear RAM as they are useless.
You can google for more info.
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Interesting, the reason I'm on CM with this HTC is because the Stock ROM also showed the same symptoms, so I moved to CM to try to cure. I really liked the stock UI and was reluctant to move away from it.
I do know RAM and that does make sense - more stuff in RAM = quicker access to resouces, but surely its still a good troubleshooting step to clear down if these problems arise?

..eredn.. said:
Interesting, the reason I'm on CM with this HTC is because the Stock ROM also showed the same symptoms, so I moved to CM to try to cure. I really liked the stock UI and was reluctant to move away from it.
I do know RAM and that does make sense - more stuff in RAM = quicker access to resouces, but surely its still a good troubleshooting step to clear down if these problems arise?
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Like i said, Android will clear the apps when it need to open resources for another.
Reading back your posts, you might need to do full re-installation .
If you install Google Apps bundle, start with re-flashing that. if still no good then go for the all ROM.
But you say that it also happened with stock rom so finding the app that's causing that its crucial.
Also note the apps that stay open in the background (click the 2 Squares) only nine stay open but all you need its a game to keep eating all the resources.

kativiti said:
Like i said, Android will clear the apps when it need to open resources for another.
Reading back your posts, you might need to do full re-installation .
If you install Google Apps bundle, start with re-flashing that. if still no good then go for the all ROM.
But you say that it also happened with stock rom so finding the app that's causing that its crucial.
Also note the apps that stay open in the background (click the 2 Squares) only nine stay open but all you need its a game to keep eating all the resources.
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I've begun by uninstalling OneFootball and Facebook and performance has improved somewhat. This might be quite a long process as im going go leave a day or so between each action.
I have fully reinstalled before, but selected to restore data and apps from backup. Maybe I'll try setting up as a new device if it comes to it. Want to avoid that tho.

..eredn.. said:
I've begun by uninstalling OneFootball and Facebook and performance has improved somewhat. This might be quite a long process as im going go leave a day or so between each action.
I have fully reinstalled before, but selected to restore data and apps from backup. Maybe I'll try setting up as a new device if it comes to it. Want to avoid that tho.
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Did you find a solution? I'm facing about the same issue with my HTC One Mini 2 after installing CM12. It ran perfectly smooth in the beginning but now it is soooo slow and it takes forever to load almost any apps (especially Facebook and Snapchat).

MikkelJakobsen said:
Did you find a solution? I'm facing about the same issue with my HTC One Mini 2 after installing CM12. It ran perfectly smooth in the beginning but now it is soooo slow and it takes forever to load almost any apps (especially Facebook and Snapchat).
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I think it's either Facebook or Facebook Messenger, probably more messenger.
I first uninstalled Facebook Messenger and performance improved. Still a little glitchy, but much better.
Then I uninstalled Facebook. Not much change.
Facebook is now reinstalled, but messenger isn't and I've been happier with the phone.
I'm still getting some background apps crashing, but not as much as before uninstalling FB messenger.
Not really a 'solution' as it could be different for you, but as mentioned previously, start uninstalling an app at a time. Leave a few days inbetween so you can tell if it changed anything. If not, reinstall and try again.

Same issue here with mini 2..i dont have facebook or that football app