just a subj... is it possible the some developer just take a rom which weas made by someone else and announce as his one achivement? (sulerly, some minor ganages could be done in the rom)
how to identify the thief?
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just a subj... is it possible the some developer just take a rom which weas made by someone else and announce as his one achivement? (sulerly, some minor ganages could be done in the rom)
how to identify the thief?
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It's not really stealing i guess as long as you put out credits of the people who created it, or by asking permission from the developers.
centrax said:
It's not really stealing i guess as long as you put out credits of the people who created it, or by asking permission from the developers.
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if the "owner" has not been aware about any usage of his rom, is it faire to thread the rom? "credits" are given when a team were worked out the rom, or when you take the result of someone's job and just say "hey, i take it" ?
in my opinion, it is situational and depends on the context.
A =/= B =/= C
But they could share similarities that most people would agree something was done morally wrong. I guess you could share with us the situation then we can give a better opinion?
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I guess you could share with us the situation then we can give a better opinion?
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i just wondering is there a sort of "widly known gentelmen agreement" about such situations. and the second matter is to get an idea how both parties (both developers) can get "a profitable solution" for both (= peace)
In my opinion, the developers community should be honest for it members. And other users have to proud for the achievments of this community. All team's results would be better, than results of each developer. That's why they should be together ^.^
PS sorry for bad english, I hope you understand my meaning
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That's why they should be together ^.^
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all should be together with all ... sounds impossible
the problem is HOW can others results be used for making app / rom etc?
what is allowed to do and what is forbidden (ethically)?
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all should be together with all ... sounds impossible
the problem is HOW can others results be used for making app / rom etc?
what is allowed to do and what is forbidden (ethically)?
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To work together - allowed, to use with proper credits - allowed. To edit build.prop and post as own rom - not. I think so.
NikkyNine said:
To work together - allowed, to use with proper credits - allowed. To edit build.prop and post as own rom - not. I think so.
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that is what i intended to clarify
alex_awful said:
just a subj... is it possible the some developer just take a rom which weas made by someone else and announce as his one achivement? (sulerly, some minor ganages could be done in the rom)
how to identify the thief?
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If you suspect something, you can always go and compare files.
Technically you can do whatever you want since android is open source.
Ethically it isbetter to consult with rom owners about using parts of a rom and credit them offcourse
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Psyloid said:
Ethically it isbetter to consult with rom owners about using parts of a rom and credit them offcourse
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if someone did not done it (consult) before he take a part of rom, what will happen? does it mean that othe other community will declare a boycott against him? or just say "you'd better stop doing it"?
Of course you're all talking about the Rom owners, Google... Right? Or perhaps HTC? I would be very surprised if any Rom posted in our dev thread have asked Linus Torvalds personally if they could post a derivation of his operating system here.
You don't see too many credits to those 3 either...
It's public domain, nobody here has built a Rom entirely from scratch all have borrowed from the community and the source, and if they offer even one piece of code that's new, I say good on them, they are contributing to the community, and the community will take from and build on that too.
But let's cut to the chase, why are you asking the question? You're planning to contribute? Or are you here to point the finger at someone for stealing your creation?
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if someone did not done it (consult) before he take a part of rom, what will happen? does it mean that othe other community will declare a boycott against him? or just say "you'd better stop doing it"?
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They come to your house and stab you in the back.
Lol !!!
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alex_awful said:
if someone did not done it (consult) before he take a part of rom, what will happen? does it mean that othe other community will declare a boycott against him? or just say "you'd better stop doing it"?
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Like everyone has stated, being a open source code and that no one in here is making profit from the roms, (on this site at least i can not speak for the world) it is really a null point of theft everything is free you can not steal something that is owned by the public. As well if you plan on taking something from a rom I would strongly suggest that you ask, and give proper credit were it is due. personally if i worked on a project and someone was using my development with no permission or credit i would publicly humiliate them in anyway possible so that the ass who "stole"
my work would never be able to call it his own again. As well the XDA community is great group of people who if you steal anything from another rom with no permission will find out and ostracize you for your pathetic attempt to pass of someone else's blood sweat and tears as your own.
Nuff said lol
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do any of the mods and admins here at xda have any issues with me start a forum
itll be like this site but all wm phones
jayjay8585 said:
do any of the mods and admins here at xda have any issues with me start a forum
itll be like this site but all wm phones
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To each his own. I don't see why anyone would have an issue with someone creating their own site. There has been a few members do that already.
all mods here maybe mods there im just to think of a way to do it so thats i know it who they say they are
That's simple contact the mods here via PM and ask if they want to participate. They can pm you a response. Now you know you've contacted a Mod here, when they sign up for your site, use Pm here to send their password.
Something along that line.
FWIW, I wouldn't Mod at your site. No offense or anything, I just don't want to add another thing to my already complicated life.
no problem, hope you reconsider though ivebeen here a while and know your all valuable
and i dont want there to be a rivalry i want to two sites to share and refer if that makes sense
jayjay8585 said:
and i dont want there to be a rivalry i want to two sites to share and refer if that makes sense
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I doubt there would be a rivalry, look at PPCGeeks, a bunch of users float between the two.
TheChampJT said:
I doubt there would be a rivalry, look at PPCGeeks, a bunch of users float between the two.
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Thou shalt Not Speak that Name. It is of EVIL!
No I think that would be great. Competition is the birthing grounds of innovation.
i just reckon the more minds the better
abandoned: See post 3
....nothing more to say.
Thank shingers5
...for it (-:
Mm just flashed this and it's either i have done something wrong, as it is not showing up on the screen.
Strange
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Mm just flashed this and it's either i have done something wrong, as it is not showing up on the screen.
Strange
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..you have to press teh reboot button first to see the menu (-:
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Mm just flashed this and it's either i have done something wrong, as it is not showing up on the screen.
Strange
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Hehe as Homer would say Doh !!!!
Thanks
Schumi 01 said:
Hehe as Homer would say Doh !!!!
Thanks
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You're welcome.
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PLEASE READ
Sharing policy
Before using my work, write a PM and ask for permission . Then you have to wait at least ONE week after the offcial relase in this thread, before including it in your rom/theme.
Pls respect this little rule!
Downloads:
APM
Pls consider taking the 1st link to give me a small return for my work, or consider donating (-;
ICS Sense APM Mirror: ICS Sense APM Mirror2: ICS Sense APM
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Edited as not to cause any further debate on this.
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shingers5 said:
What's with that rule? This is a sharing community and as long as you get credited for your work what's with this waiting lark. What's wrong with xda these days? I am sure along the way you have used stuff provided by others and they didn't have you wait. Sorry if you don't like my stance but hey its my opinion
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...most dumb post I've ever seen in the last months.
I really trying to raise the user experience of users by spending a lot of time and effort in those mods....and I'm doing a lot of mods as you can see in my signature.
Well you can believe it or not, I dont just spent hours on those mods, more like days and weeks. On my leedroid tweaks project even months.
..and I'm doing this for fun and SHARE it with YOU for FREE!
So what the problem when I just put one rule up for DEVS and THEMERS to wait a t least on week before including it?
On that way I can ensure some activity in my threads and not to lose all users by day one, because all are kanging me on day two?
...YOu're really a poor guy - You are talking about whats with xda now?
Look at yourself, too much ignorant7dumb users here just leechicng stuff without beeing able to eben thank a dev for therer time spending in their projects.
Could write even more...you really made my day..worse. Thx.
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...most dumb post I've ever seen in the last months.
I really trying to raise the user experience of users by spending a lot of time and effort in those mods....and I'm doing a lot of mods as you can see in my signature.
Well you can believe it or not, I dont just spent hours on those mods, more like days and weeks. On my leedroid tweaks project even months.
..and I'm doing this for fun and SHARE it with YOU for FREE!
So what the problem when I just put one rule up for DEVS and THEMERS to wait a t least on week before including it?
On that way I can ensure some activity in my threads and not to lose all users by day one, because all are kanging me on day two?
...YOu're really a poor guy - You are talking about whats with xda now?
Look at yourself, too much ignorant7dumb users here just leechicng stuff without beeing able to eben thank a dev for therer time spending in their projects.
Could write even more...you really made my day..worse. Thx.
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Dumb? Asking people to wait a week to get permission to use your work and you call me dumb? Yea request they ask your permission and give you credit for your hard work but wait a week! Man people like you is what's wrong with xda and no dumb leechers in here. The guy posted and stated it wasn't his work and direct linked to your thread. No problem with that at all. All he did wrong was provid file on download. He was tryna to help not leech. There is a major difference
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abandoned: See post 3
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don`t do this its not good for all of us, it was cool, but i don`t dowload it because i am not rooted, but i realy what this Advanced Power Menu when i root my SXL and flash ICS
so i ask you to take it back
Lol abandoned because I didn't share his views on sharing! Lol and shows how people here think they are bigger than xda. I have no respect for guys who try do nonsense like that... I am entitled to my opinion and even if sometimes not totally right doesn't mean you play god and punish others.
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-=AsteriX=- said:
don`t do this its not good for all of us, it was cool, but i don`t dowload it because i am not rooted, but i realy what this Advanced Power Menu when i root my SXL and flash ICS
so i ask you to take it back
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Don't beg dude as that's what he wants. No one abandons anything cause of the opinion of one person. If he is an adult he will put it back as we all can't agree which is what makes us INDIVIDUAL
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....nothing more to say.
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I will however apologise if I came across a bit strong armed and hope you accept my apology. No point in others not benefiting from this as its not fair
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---------- Post added at 09:09 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:02 PM ----------
And before you guys start moaning about this being abandoned please remember that you can always grab it from the OP thread and flash yourself. I have flashed both manually and they work great. Just grab them from the Sensation thread. Not natively made for XL but it works.
These are your worst words/posts on XDA Shingers5
You'd be happy we develop **** for you, so you can play around with your device.
And you start **** like this.... Did not think YOU would
DutchDanny said:
These are your worst words/posts on XDA Shingers5
You'd be happy we develop **** for you, so you can play around with your device.
And you start **** like this.... Did not think YOU would
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What **** did you develop for me to play with dude? How many chefs are there on xda providing Roms for how many devices! Chefs are not gods mate as without us mere users there would be no need for chefs. One can't go without the other. This is your worst post on here as well! Know your place dude for real! You choose to do something you enjoy and make it available to us but without us using your **** who would you be? You guys need to come off this high horse mentality crap dude. Tired of it. Many chefs on here do what you guys do and none have that attitude. I am entitled to express my opinion and just cause you don't agree with me doesn't make you right!
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What **** did you develop for me to play with dude? How many chefs are there on xda providing Roms for how many devices! Chefs are not gods mate as without us mere users there would be no need for chefs. One can't go without the other. This is your worst post on here as well! Know your place dude for real! You choose to do something you enjoy and make it available to us but without us using your **** who would you be? You guys need to come off this high horse mentality crap dude. Tired of it. Many chefs on here do what you guys do and none have that attitude. I am entitled to express my opinion and just cause you don't agree with me doesn't make you right!
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I don't have an attitude, and develop my rom for my pleassure....
I don't need users, this is made to make MY phone look nice, and if other people like it, they are free to use it.
DutchDanny said:
I don't have an attitude, and develop my rom for my pleassure....
I don't need users, this is made to make MY phone look nice, and if other people like it, they are free to use it.
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lol if you didnt need users why be a dev on here and make your rom public? you would just keep it for your own private consumption period. the mere fact it is here on xda means you crave that following that comes from users liking your work and thanking you for it! i like your work but wont kiss ass because i do! if you posted something i didnt like id tell you same way! you must have had people who didnt like your work but you didnt stop all dev cause of it did you? we are adults in here and this childish attitude is not acceptable.
you may want to retract that statement about not wanting users mate as they are who made you who you are on here. if they all hated your **** or didnt use it you would be nothing on here and wouldnt still be dev_ing. oh and i never said you had an attitude but dont be judging me dude. i will freely express my opinion always
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lol if you didnt need users why be a dev on here and make your rom public? you would just keep it for your own private consumption period. the mere fact it is here on xda means you crave that following that comes from users liking your work and thanking you for it! i like your work but wont kiss ass because i do! if you posted something i didnt like id tell you same way! you must have had people who didnt like your work but you didnt stop all dev cause of it did you? we are adults in here and this childish attitude is not acceptable.
you may want to retract that statement about not wanting users mate as they are who made you who you are on here. if they all hated your **** or didnt use it you would be nothing on here and wouldnt still be dev_ing. oh and i never said you had an attitude but dont be judging me dude. i will freely express my opinion always
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Everybody is entitled to there opinion, you ..me.. and all here
But we are NOT all adults here, and English is for a lot NOT there native language...
So the way you write down your opinion is very delicate.
I respect you for what you do for the community, even if your not called a dev.
You are a very helpfull person... Thats why I did not expect you to write your opinion like the way you do.
Sharing policy
Before using my work, write a PM and ask for permission . Then you have to wait at least ONE week after the offcial relase in this thread, before including it in your rom/theme.
Pls respect this little rule!
just to get things clear, i wasnt "using" ur work! im just a poor user lol .. i was "sharing" ur work "under ur name" (((copy paste links))).. i was helping "you" b4 helping users, so XL users would know more about you and your good job, n u didnt appreciate it.. whatever.. didnt really like what u've done.. still good job and thank you for this
there is no android 4.2 based rom or fw available for this phone yet....cynogenmod 10.1 couldnt go any far as of now.....I want to request developers to focus on or to develop in latest 4.2 version...all want to see latest ports for the device...there is no point of putting time in modifying existing roms of othrrs ....
Dude, for our device there are no 4.2... so on what does the ROM need to be based? If you want 4.2 stock based it's not gonna work.
Let the dev's do their work and wait for 4.2... patience will be rewarded. Some countries are still waiting for 4.1
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I think he means they should develop CM10.1 instead of cm10.. somewhat I agree, but it's much more difficult, and they don't have all the sources for that. Let them do cm10 first, than they might start work on cm10.1, or maybe not.. even cm10 is in early beta, and how long have they been doing that?
It's not an easy task as the source is not released. So little chance of getting cm 10.1. But still cm 10 is in progress thanks to our devs team and that's good enough for me
I think we need to wait a bit for 4.2
Well CM10 is the main priority I guess and we have the best of our devs working on it. When it is stable I hope that they want to continue on CM10.1 which is harder without sources as we don't even have all sources for CM10 yet.
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droidinsane said:
there is no android 4.2 based rom or fw available for this phone yet....cynogenmod 10.1 couldnt go any far as of now.....I want to request developers to focus on or to develop in latest 4.2 version...all want to see latest ports for the device...there is no point of putting time in modifying existing roms of othrrs ....
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What about Android 6.9?
shut_down said:
What about Android 6.9?
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so you noticed this thread....move man people need you....android 6.9 is not for you...beta version will make it for you...
droidinsane said:
so you noticed this thread....move man people need you....android 6.9 is not for you...beta version will make it for you...
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I suggest you read this book.
I will leave you alone with your demands, but I just hate that kind of people.
P.S. And you think developers like to have their work to be in beta so long?
And I used to notice every thread in here, untill I got busy.
shut_down said:
I suggest you read this book.
I will leave you alone with your demands, but I just hate that kind of people.
P.S. And you think developers like to have their work to be in beta so long?
And I used to notice every thread in here, untill I got busy.
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you are saying you are busy...then why are you wasting your time replying and staring useless arguements commenting & quoting...? if you can do that you can do some work and turn those betas into final like the wat you told me ...I have other important work to than reading your books I dont want to waste my time waiting for betas turning into finals and indulging into arguements...
I think you're overreacting ...
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you are saying you are busy...then why are you wasting your time replying and staring useless arguements commenting & quoting...? if you can do that you can do some work and turn those betas into final like the wat you told me ...I have other important work to than reading your books I dont want to waste my time waiting for betas turning into finals and indulging into arguements...
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If you want something done, do it yourself rather that complaining about it.
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you are saying you are busy...then why are you wasting your time replying and staring useless arguements commenting & quoting...? if you can do that you can do some work and turn those betas into final like the wat you told me ...I have other important work to than reading your books I dont want to waste my time waiting for betas turning into finals and indulging into arguements...
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I am not an developer, just user who helps new user sometime. The ones who deserve that, but I make mistake and help to someone who do not. :laugh:
And about that book, it is about waiting for something that is not coming and not doing anything. That is what are you doing, if you want it that badly - do it yourslef.
But I knew that you would answer like you did when I was writing that post to read that book. You seem like some spoiled child.
DID YOU INSTALL SOME OF THOSE ROMS? DID YOU PROVIDE ANY LOGCAT TO DEVELOPERS TO HELP THEM FIND PROBLEM, AND TRY TO SOLVE IT????????????
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I am not an developer, just user who helps new user sometime. The ones who deserve that, but I make mistake and help to someone who do not. :laugh:
And about that book, it is about waiting for something that is not coming and not doing anything. That is what are you doing, if you want it that badly - do it yourslef.
P.S. But I knew that you would answer like you did when I was writing that post to read that book. You seem like some spoiled child.
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stop this nuisance now....your thanks meter is going up dont need any further ideal speech....and about me you are no one to comment and I know I need to ignore people like you....
this everything going over hrre is an example of how people advocating a positive change or providing critical feedback are suppressed ....
thanks you so much for your unsolicited advice...
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you are saying you are busy...then why are you wasting your time replying and staring useless arguements commenting & quoting...? if you can do that you can do some work and turn those betas into final like the wat you told me ...I have other important work to than reading your books I dont want to waste my time waiting for betas turning into finals and indulging into arguements...
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@droidinsane just get up and learn something. Make your own CM10.1 I freaking double dare you!
shut_down said:
I suggest you read this book.
I will leave you alone with your demands, but I just hate that kind of people.
P.S. And you think developers like to have their work to be in beta so long?
And I used to notice every thread in here, untill I got busy.
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Please stop this endless discussion.
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stop this nuisance now....your thanks meter is going up dont need any further ideal speech....and about me you are no one to comment and I know I need to ignore people like you....
this everything going over hrre is an example of how people advocating a positive change or providing critical feedback are suppressed ....
thanks you so much for your unsolicited advice...
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if you think your so smart go and grab the cm10.1 source from the dev thread and work make it a final build i triple dare you... we all work together, have fun together smile together and learn together.. plus we make friends and this n that... u are nobody to comment and fight over here if u soo want to make a fuss go and scream all you want on FB but fighting againt shut_down Pleasee.... he's a friend of mine and this is a friendly development website!
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if you think your so smart go and grab the cm10.1 source from the dev thread and work make it a final build i triple dare you... we all work together, have fun together smile together and learn together.. plus we make friends and this n that... u are nobody to comment and fight over here if u soo want to make a fuss go and scream all you want on FB but fighting againt shut_down Pleasee.... he's a friend of mine and this is a friendly development website!
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I completely agree with you. And I quadruple dare him to get a stable CM10.1
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ikaster17 said:
if you think your so smart go and grab the cm10.1 source from the dev thread and work make it a final build i triple dare you... we all work together, have fun together smile together and learn together.. plus we make friends and this n that... u are nobody to comment and fight over here if u soo want to make a fuss go and scream all you want on FB but fighting againt shut_down Pleasee.... he's a friend of mine and this is a friendly development website!
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I am not with anyone and I didnt write or post anything to indulge in fight or endless arguements with anyone...it was all because of the way people like you reacted and responded...yes this is a friendly development forum you people are so damn friendly. ...
thanks for your humble attitude and genorosirty
enjoy and have fun
this is the end....
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I am not with anyone and I didnt write or post anything to indulge in fight or endless arguements with anyone...it was all because of the way people like you reacted and responded...yes this is a friendly development forum you people are so damn friendly. ...
thanks for your humble attitude and genorosirty
enjoy and have fun
this is the end....
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Before i end this with my final msg.... yes we all are friendly but the way you reacted in the start was the bad way... next thanks for another pointless reply and we don't need members who are here to fight ...... Now if you dare freakin reply again im goana report you and i will really do it!... STOP WITH THESE FLAME WARS OKAY WE ALREADY HAD BEEN HAVING FIGHTS AND WE SETTLED THEM BUT NOW IT"S GETTING FAR ENOUGH
Let's all work together and act like normal human beings. It's not usual to flame someone who's doing the Dev job volontarily.
I'm new here, and I'm trying to learn, but I'm not that technical. I try my best to contribute to this society, I can't develop or mod but everytime I read this forum my knowledge about Android grows and if it's needed I would share that knowledge.
I don't wanna sound like the good guy but I guess we all should be here for learning or sharing knowledge, if we can do that we could form a great team!
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Folks - I've read great things about the Cataclyst ROM but found the official thread on it had been closed by an XDA moderator. If I install it and run into issues, would there be some people supporting it and what thread?
Thx
sam008 said:
Folks - I've read great things about the Cataclyst ROM but found the official thread on it had been closed by an XDA moderator. If I install it and run into issues, would there be some people supporting it and what thread?
Thx
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No. Hence the closed thread. The dev left XDA.
ouch so i guess no further versions of his rom then?
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ouch so i guess no further versions of his rom then?
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I don't want to sound like a douche... But re-read my last post.
*IF* he's releasing still, it's not on XDA and directing people via post to anywhere off-site is at least frowned upon (if not prohibited).
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*IF* he's releasing still, it's not on XDA and directing people via post to anywhere off-site is at least frowned upon (if not prohibited).
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Maybe we should let @atl4ntis know that we love to see him back in whatever XDA thread or XDA (sub)forum. Not only for his work, but also because he is a helpfull and nice person.
Possibly his XDA account is still active.
We could mention him in our posts so he knows we do not forget. At this moment we have to respect his decision because he is hurt.
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NLBeev said:
Maybe we should let @atl4ntis know that we love to see him back in whatever XDA thread or XDA (sub)forum. Not only for his work, but also because he is a helpfull and nice person.
Possibly his XDA account is still active.
We could mention him in our posts so he knows we do not forget. At this moment we have to respect his decision because he is hurt.
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The mention might work unless like most of the more senior members he has mention notifications turned off.
Can anybody please tell me what happened?
His rom is perfect as it's stock with just enough amount of customization.
Sad that he left.
jk0l said:
Can anybody please tell me what happened?
His rom is perfect as it's stock with just enough amount of customization.
Sad that he left.
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As I understand it there was a dispute with another dev and that lead to a dispute about whether or not his rom was original work. XDA moved it to the non original section and he decided to abandon the project.
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TonikJDK said:
As I understand it there was a dispute with another dev and that lead to a dispute about whether or not his rom was original work. XDA moved it to the non original section and he decided to abandon the project.
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Here in the Netherlands @atl4ntis was popular. The Dutch press praised him for his 'cataclysm mod'.
The bulk of the problem was that he claimed his work was all original, yet refused to provide evidence to back his claims. Before anyone starts in on the "Apache license doesn't require sources" line, I know he was within his rights to refuse to show his sources. However, if you don't show sources, how can you reasonably expect anyone to believe your work is original?
The XDA staff made the right call here. If you refuse to prove your work is original, your work doesn't get to be located in the Original Android Development forum. In any event, this will be a moot point going forward as all new devices will only have one development section. That said, the mods and/or admin should be going through all device forums that have both an Android Development and Original Android Development subforum, and merging the two subforums into one.
sam008 said:
Folks - I've read great things about the Cataclyst ROM but found the official thread on it had been closed by an XDA moderator. If I install it and run into issues, would there be some people supporting it and what thread?
Thx
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You can go here; we'll be glad to help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/info-cataclysm-mod-dead-t3307703
sam008 said:
... If I install it and run into issues, would there be some people supporting it and what thread...
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=http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3307703
Hi all.
My question is about kernel sources. I know devs can do magic if the sources are out there.
So, does Xiaomi typically give kernel sources? When would they do that? And especially why?
I am trying to understand how Xiaomi stands in that regard.
Cheers!
They are some of the worst. Even when they do release it, it is broken or incomplete. No one that has any choice buys their devices.
zelendel said:
They are some of the worst. Even when they do release it, it is broken or incomplete. No one that has any choice buys their devices.
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I have now filed a complaint with the XDA admins, asking them if they think it's ok with moderators that keep posting falsified information and non constructive nonsense. You are certainly lowering the quality of the threads. I don't know why, and I don't care why - but please help making XDA a better place instead of posting things no one wants to read.
Ch0rus said:
I have now filed a complaint with the XDA admins, asking them if they think it's ok with moderators that keep posting falsified information and non constructive nonsense. You are certainly lowering the quality of the threads. I don't know why, and I don't care why - but please help making XDA a better place instead of posting things no one wants to read.
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Did you not understand zelendel answer Removed or because of your room temperature IQ
Ch0rus said:
I have now filed a complaint with the XDA admins, asking them if they think it's ok with moderators that keep posting falsified information and non constructive nonsense. You are certainly lowering the quality of the threads. I don't know why, and I don't care why - but please help making XDA a better place instead of posting things no one wants to read.
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You can think what ever you want but my comments are very much true. If a developer is looking for a device to develop on Xiaomi is is avoided due to their lack of following the GPL. Think I am wrong why not have a read HERE where we talk about it in length.
Ch0rus said:
I have now filed a complaint with the XDA admins, asking them if they think it's ok with moderators that keep posting falsified information and non constructive nonsense. You are certainly lowering the quality of the threads. I don't know why, and I don't care why - but please help making XDA a better place instead of posting things no one wants to read.
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Oh, another wannabe keyboard warrior... Take a note from your own Removed words and stop posting Removed no one wants to read.
Let's not resort to swearing or insulting someones possible English please.
Cheers
nevermind
Slagathor said:
So, does Xiaomi typically give kernel sources?
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Yes, for some.
Slagathor said:
When would they do that?
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Typically 6 months after device release.
Slagathor said:
And especially why?
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No idea. Their selection criteria which device source to release also remains unrevealed.
maybe 1year after the release of Mi5. Thats what they did with Mi3 right?
The kernel sources are published. Are they complete and are they useful for the dev(s)?
here are the kernel sources
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/gemini-m-oss
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They are some of the worst. Even when they do release it, it is broken or incomplete. No one that has any choice buys their devices.
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@thunderrr0 I know they are published but I have not found anybody who can tell whether the sources can be used or are broken.
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@thunderrr0 I know they are published but I have not found anybody who can tell whether the sources can be used or are broken.
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Only developers will know for sure unless you download the source and try to build it as is. Most of the time there takes lots of fixes and hacks to get it working. Main reason most developers won't buy their devices.