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Update to Froyo (OTA or Manual) wipes data?

Hi Guys
I tried searching before I posted this one - if not, I'm sorry
I have a stock unlocked Nexus One AT&T (EPE54B) with stock (unrooted) 2.1 installed
Since Google has started rolling out Froyo update for the Nexus this week, I am very much looking forward to it
A small question I had was if I update to Froyo (FRF85) over the air, do I lose the data on my phone? I have MyBackupPro installed - Will that help, or should I do something else?
Will it be the same if I install Froyo manually?
Cheers to all for reading this post

chetanthaker said:
Hi Guys
I tried searching before I posted this one - if not, I'm sorry
I have a stock unlocked Nexus One AT&T (EPE54B) with stock (unrooted) 2.1 installed
Since Google has started rolling out Froyo update for the Nexus this week, I am very much looking forward to it
A small question I had was if I update to Froyo (FRF85) over the air, do I lose the data on my phone? I have MyBackupPro installed - Will that help, or should I do something else?
Will it be the same if I install Froyo manually?
Cheers to all for reading this post
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You shouldn't lose data in either case, assuming you don't wipe when doing a manual install, but I would certainly use something like titanium backup just to be sure.

@MSigler
Thanks for the reply - But don't I need to root to get TitaniumBackup to work?
Wouldn't any app that does not need root back my stuff up 'reliably'?
Just a little paranoid about rooting my 2-month old Nexus.

chetanthaker said:
@MSigler
Thanks for the reply - But don't I need to root to get TitaniumBackup to work?
Wouldn't any app that does not need root back my stuff up 'reliably'?
Just a little paranoid about rooting my 2-month old Nexus.
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Astro File manager would back up all your apps, but will not backup your app data.

chetanthaker said:
@MSigler
Thanks for the reply - But don't I need to root to get TitaniumBackup to work?
Wouldn't any app that does not need root back my stuff up 'reliably'?
Just a little paranoid about rooting my 2-month old Nexus.
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D'oh! You're right. I keep forgetting not everyone is rooted.
You really aren't going to lose much with a stock rom though.
Any paid apps will show up in market under "Downloads" so you can download them again.
Your contacts and emails are synced through your google account.
Pictures and music are on your SD card, so they won't be effected at all.
Basically, if for some reason you have to wipe your phone data, you will lose your call log, your app settings (meaning you'll have to go back into the apps and set up your preferences and such), and your text messages.
You shouldn't lose anything at all, but that's the worst case.

I updated from unrooted EPE54B using the manual method and didn't lose a thing....

iboj007 said:
I updated from unrooted EPE54B using the manual method and didn't lose a thing....
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Yeah, you shouldn't lose any data, but I would feel like **** if I told him not to worry about it and he lost all his data, so I'm going with worst case.

MSigler said:
Yeah, you shouldn't lose any data, but I would feel like **** if I told him not to worry about it and he lost all his data, so I'm going with worst case.
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Thanks guys
I'll try updating my phone manually today (if I do not get an OTA update by today noon) - Will update my findings here
I guess this answers my question and we can consider this a closed topic.

Ok, i just updated my stock unrooted unlocked N1 2.1 to Froyo in less than 6 minutes.
Confirmed no data loss when you update.
Sweet!

[Q] HELP!!!!

Ok, so I have a rooted Nexus One with cyanogen 6.0rc3 on it. I recently tried to put cyanogen 6.1 on it so I could upgrade to 7.0. Then, I see the common glitch where there is no market so I revert back to my old rom which I made a backup for(using ROM Manager). So here comes the hard part, when it restores my ROM, have no apps, no nothing which I downloaded, and I tried to restore again, because ROM Manager reinstalled, but I didn't get anything. Can some tell me how to get my data and all my stuff back, please?!?!?!?! If I don't get help by the end of the month, my service gets cut off, so I really need help!!!! Please help guys, thanks in advance, you guys are the bomb!!!!

yellofello99 said:
If I don't get help by the end of the month, my service gets cut off, so I really need help!!!!
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What's that supposed to mean? You lose service because you don't have the data on your phone restored?
Are you using apps2sd?
I feel like you have no chance of restoring anything at the moment though.

If you have a custom recovery, just wipe and start again, or restore your backup... Make sure you have a gapps package that is compatible with your ROM...
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All your apps will be in the market under 'my apps' and as long as you have synched with Google servers all your data should be retrieveable by re-synching.
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yellofello99 said:
Ok, so I have a rooted Nexus One with cyanogen 6.0rc3 on it. I recently tried to put cyanogen 6.1 on it so I could upgrade to 7.0. Then, I see the common glitch where there is no market so I revert back to my old rom which I made a backup for(using ROM Manager). So here comes the hard part, when it restores my ROM, have no apps, no nothing which I downloaded, and I tried to restore again, because ROM Manager reinstalled, but I didn't get anything. Can some tell me how to get my data and all my stuff back, please?!?!?!?! If I don't get help by the end of the month, my service gets cut off, so I really need help!!!! Please help guys, thanks in advance, you guys are the bomb!!!!
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You don't need to go to cm6.1 to get to cm7. Even on 6.1 you need to do a full wipe anyway to eliminate any potential problems.
Also did you happen to use CWM 3.0?

danger-rat said:
If you have a custom recovery, just wipe and start again, or restore your backup... Make sure you have a gapps package that is compatible with your ROM...
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I tried to restore my backup, it doesn't work for some reason

sparkyryan said:
All your apps will be in the market under 'my apps' and as long as you have synched with Google servers all your data should be retrieveable by re-synching.
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I tried that, too, not all of my apps restored, and my data would be gone on them anyway

baseballfanz said:
You don't need to go to cm6.1 to get to cm7. Even on 6.1 you need to do a full wipe anyway to eliminate any potential problems.
Also did you happen to use CWM 3.0?
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I was using 3.0

Zv4 to zv7 update discussion

I thought I might open this up since I didn't see it anywhere. Anyway, ill start with my side.
I was on revolt 1.5 (big thanks mtm) and had a haphazard way of getting to zv7. Anyway, I restored stock without wiping, both system and boot.img from thecubeds original factory band, started up fine. Then used revotoolkit to restore stock recovery, downloaded the update and updated sucessfully. I then rooted with the esteem method, free and clear, and restored, among other things, my apps with data that I backed up in ti. Everything was generally fine, with minor hiccups from restoring app data so just manually wiped data from problem apps one by one. After that, gingervolt had come out and I figured that if I flash it over my current setup, worse case scenario I go back and wipe data and install from scratch. But, as luck had it, after taking awhile to rebuild the dalvik cache, everything was fine and dandy.
So how did yours go? Any stories or experiences? Thought this would be good for general discussion and as insight for everyone.
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If you don't mind please share your secrets on how you of from v4 to v7. I have tried almost everything!
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jackpot08 said:
If you don't mind please share your secrets on how you of from v4 to v7. I have tried almost everything!
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yes tell all as I have heard going right from v4 to v7 was a no go.

You beat me to the punch...I was on Revolt 1.5 and loving it but I want GB. So I downgraded to the stock rooted nandroid backup found here. I went to settings> about phone> software update and...nothing. I tried a few times, I waited for awhile and nothing. I then flashed the z4 tot file, nothing, I updated the z6 file and rooted that and nothing (see a pattern?) I am currently running the Z6 rooted file.
Any help would be appriciated. By the way mtmichaelson you are the man.

I think we are all in the same boat Verizon hasn't uploaded the update to the servers we can download from for now I'm staying stock rooted with stock recovery until they push the update to me so that i can install it when it gets here basically the only thing we can do is wait
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My impressions
I was patient and stuck with a CWM/rooted stock V4 ROM.
I uses MT's ROM stock and followed instructions and upgraded through OTA to GB without a hitch. I also erased the internal SD to remove any gremlins from past experimentation.
I used his root zip and it when without a hitch except for the CWM recovery not sticking after reboot.
I notice that the audio output is louder, not one single crash or forced close, faster 4G and GPS, and faster charging. I plan to wait to see how the custom ROMs perform before flashing it and hopefully the CWM issue will be resolved soon.
We all need to thank everyone who has made this possible!

Just curious, what part of the country are you guys in that can't get the update?

I can't get the update and I'm in central California.
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patsoxfan said:
yes tell all as I have heard going right from v4 to v7 was a no go.
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As far as secrets, I cant think of many hidden things I did. A little more detailed though, I had revolt 1.5, backed up everything, and didnt wipe any data.
I went to cwr, made a nand backup, and without wiping anything went straight to flash thecubed's root nandroid rip with advanced restore, with the stock system.img and boot.img, and that booted fine.
Then in android, I used revotoolkit to flash the stock recovery, and I think its this step that at least partially 'allows' the update. I guess something where it checks what is installed to check if there's an update.
Then I got the update prompt for zv6, and it updated fine, although it wasnt rooted afterward. Shortly after, I got another update and it updated to zv7 and 2.3.4, still unrooted. Although my apps were still there, some had issues from remnants of data from froyo, like force closes. So I manually, selectively deleted data in 'manage apps' as I found problem apps.
Then I used the esteem root to root it, and after finding the working, updated one it went fine.
After that, gingervolt came out, and although it was warned to wipe data strenuously before switching, I figured that if I at least made a nandroid before flashing anything, then the worst case scenario if flashing gingervolt over stock gb turned out to fail, I could either wipe data anyway and reflash like normal, or by some crazy chance it'd work, and I just got lucky when it worked. It just took a good 5-7 minutes to boot I presume because it has to rebuild the dalvik cache (based on what/how many apps you have?) and here we are. I hope this explains more so others may have success stories.
solrac21 said:
You beat me to the punch...I was on Revolt 1.5 and loving it but I want GB. So I downgraded to the stock rooted nandroid backup found here. I went to settings> about phone> software update and...nothing. I tried a few times, I waited for awhile and nothing. I then flashed the z4 tot file, nothing, I updated the z6 file and rooted that and nothing (see a pattern?) I am currently running the Z6 rooted file.
Any help would be appriciated. By the way mtmichaelson you are the man.
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It may have to do, like I put above, with putting stock recovery + boot + system.img from stock zv4. Try that if you can and report the results if it deems beneficial.
drutman said:
I was patient and stuck with a CWM/rooted stock V4 ROM.
I uses MT's ROM stock and followed instructions and upgraded through OTA to GB without a hitch. I also erased the internal SD to remove any gremlins from past experimentation.
I used his root zip and it when without a hitch except for the CWM recovery not sticking after reboot.
I notice that the audio output is louder, not one single crash or forced close, faster 4G and GPS, and faster charging. I plan to wait to see how the custom ROMs perform before flashing it and hopefully the CWM issue will be resolved soon.
We all need to thank everyone who has made this possible!
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And I completely have to agree haha. After updating and rooting, I got instant gps lock, have yet to have any fc's or reboot besides the usual routines, and I know Ill have to post a ss to prove it but I was able to get consistent 20-30mbps down with a single 42mbps down speedtest on the speedtest.net app, when before even on a great day it would peak at 16mbps. Loving gingerbread, especially since (coming from a droid) its on a phone meant to handle gb. Afaik, gb's mem manager was more built for 512mb+ (correct me if Im wrong), although it manages everything so much better. As good as gb is on my OG droid, there are a good # of screen redraws lol.

I started from Revolt 1.5. I made a NAND banckup, then got rid of CWM with RevoToolKit. Flashed the v6 tot file with LGNPST, updated to GB OTA, then rooted with mt's script. All-in-all it was pretty painless. I didn't do a data/cache wipe until I went to put on Gingervolt.

ybrian said:
I can't get the update and I'm in central California.
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I got the update, I'm in Sacramento area.
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PinkyTheDevil said:
I got the update, I'm in Sacramento area.
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I cannot get the update in Oakland California
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No update Boston Area
Any chance we are all on business accounts instead of family accounts?

patsoxfan said:
No update Boston Area
Any chance we are all on business accounts instead of family accounts?
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I'm out in Chicopee mass. Got the update in western Mass
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jackpot08 said:
I cannot get the update in Oakland California
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Strange how it could be out in a few counties only. I would think the bay area should have gotten it quickly. I wonder how the ota push works?
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Virginia beach Virginia no update and I'm on family plan
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no update in southern california....

patsoxfan said:
No update Boston Area
Any chance we are all on business accounts instead of family accounts?
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I'm on a family plan
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so cal irvine area got the update on monday.

shilohdrummer said:
no update in southern california....
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Odd. On Halloween, in Cerritos, I reverted to stock and got immediate zv6 upgrade download without even going to settings. zv7 came automatically too.
The only thing I can think of is my phone has never been on vz6 before. Are the people who are having trouble ones who downgraded from zv6 to 4 and then rooted?
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[Q] Stock ROM-UnLocked-Rooted with S-On.I Want To De-bloat Help.

Ok im running stock ICS on my vivid and im wanting to get rid of all the AT&T junk.I Tried freezing some with titanium backup but it says i have to donate to freeze the apps.I want them gone not just frozen.It gives me the option to delete but i can't find a list of things that are safe to remove anywhere.Im running the stock htc_vivid_att_RUU_3.26.502.56_R23_US.Is there a tool that will do this anywhere?Or i can do it manually but it would be great if i had a complete list of things to remove without causing errors..I was running some custom ROMS but came back to stock due to in-call volume issues.Thanks in advance.

woodsytattooman said:
Ok im running stock ICS on my vivid and im wanting to get rid of all the AT&T junk.I Tried freezing some with titanium backup but it says i have to donate to freeze the apps.I want them gone not just frozen.It gives me the option to delete but i can't find a list of things that are safe to remove anywhere.Im running the stock htc_vivid_att_RUU_3.26.502.56_R23_US.Is there a tool that will do this anywhere?Or i can do it manually but it would be great if i had a complete list of things to remove without causing errors..I was running some custom ROMS but came back to stock due to in-call volume issues.Thanks in advance.
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If you use titanium back up pro which I highly suggest you can remove system apps yes you have to pay but imho it is worth it. That will be the easiest way probably but be carefull and only remove apps that are not needed. There are system apps that are needed and if you remove them you can run into a world of hurt
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anything branded At&T should be completely safe to remove. any other programs you want to remove just make sure you have a back up in Titanium (incase deleteing/uninstalling it does mess something up).
edit: Root uninstaller is free and will uninstall anything, and always make sure you have a back up of anything you cant stand to loose(just in case)
woodsytattooman said:
Ok im running stock ICS on my vivid and im wanting to get rid of all the AT&T junk.I Tried freezing some with titanium backup but it says i have to donate to freeze the apps.I want them gone not just frozen.It gives me the option to delete but i can't find a list of things that are safe to remove anywhere.Im running the stock htc_vivid_att_RUU_3.26.502.56_R23_US.Is there a tool that will do this anywhere?Or i can do it manually but it would be great if i had a complete list of things to remove without causing errors..I was running some custom ROMS but came back to stock due to in-call volume issues.Thanks in advance.
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Just flash one of the debloated roms on the forum, no need for you to go one by one wondering if its safe or not.
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And as long as you have the ROM zip and twrp you can put it all back
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infact i suggest to always have a rom zip on your phone, just in case.

Ghitim said:
infact i suggest to always have a rom zip on your phone, just in case.
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I always have ay least one on my external
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Yup always good to keep the ROM on your sd incase you delete wrong apk just dirty flash
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Firmware Update help!

Ok guys, my Sensation XL is currently on Android 2.3.5, and I'm trying to update the firmware to the newest. But my phone is rooted! I downloaded that OTA RootKeeper app and activated it before starting the whole updating process, but for the past...I'd say half hour it's been sitting on the screen with the triange and the Droid mascot. So, does that mean it's slowly working? Or is it just going to sit here until I decide to unplug the phone and give up? I wanna update my phone because there are apps where I need the latest firmware, but I like the freedom of having a rooted phone so I can delete what I dont want and so on.
How long should this update take? Since it is kind of updating a ****load X3 Also, if this doesnt work, I wanna do a complete stock reboot of the phone then try updating the firmware, but I dont wanna loose all my apps, save data, contacts and so on D: Plus will the bloatware I deleted using my root return with a vengeance if I do a Factory Restart? Help me out here, guys D:

Oxcide said:
Ok guys, my Sensation XL is currently on Android 2.3.5, and I'm trying to update the firmware to the newest. But my phone is rooted! I downloaded that OTA RootKeeper app and activated it before starting the whole updating process, but for the past...I'd say half hour it's been sitting on the screen with the triange and the Droid mascot. So, does that mean it's slowly working? Or is it just going to sit here until I decide to unplug the phone and give up? I wanna update my phone because there are apps where I need the latest firmware, but I like the freedom of having a rooted phone so I can delete what I dont want and so on.
How long should this update take? Since it is kind of updating a ****load X3 Also, if this doesnt work, I wanna do a complete stock reboot of the phone then try updating the firmware, but I dont wanna loose all my apps, save data, contacts and so on D: Plus will the bloatware I deleted using my root return with a vengeance if I do a Factory Restart? Help me out here, guys D:
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If it took longer than 5 minutes, then it is bootlooping. Unlock boot loader, flash custom recovery, s off, flash a custom rom. Then you can have latest, but no matter what, you will loose all your data on the phone except what's on the inbuilt sdcard. Note the contacts are usually synced with you gmail login.
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anders3408 said:
If it took longer than 5 minutes, then it is bootlooping. Unlock boot loader, flash custom recovery, s off, flash a custom rom. Then you can have latest, but no matter what, you will loose all your data on the phone except what's on the inbuilt sdcard. Note the contacts are usually synced with you gmail login.
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It doesnt have a custom rom on it though D: Is there any sort of app out there where I can backup my stuff to my PC? All I really care about is my contacts and app data (Like browser favorites and a couple of my games data). Or am I really just kinda screwed? X3 Also, I dont have a clue on how to do any of what you just said. X3

Oxcide said:
It doesnt have a custom rom on it though D: Is there any sort of app out there where I can backup my stuff to my PC? All I really care about is my contacts and app data (Like browser favorites and a couple of my games data). Or am I really just kinda screwed? X3 Also, I dont have a clue on how to do any of what you just said. X3
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There does exsist some apps that can take backup of apps. Look in the sticky threads for guides or you can do it with my aio tool if you are running on a 64 bit windows.
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anders3408 said:
There does exsist some apps that can take backup of apps. Look in the sticky threads for guides or you can do it with my aio tool if you are running on a 64 bit windows.
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I'll check out your app see what I can do with it ^__^ Thanks for the help.
Edit: So with your program I can do all what you said to do before, plus create backups of my apps and their saved data to my phone?
Edit2: Damnit. I'm on 32bit T_T

Oxcide said:
I'll check out your app see what I can do with it ^__^ Thanks for the help.
Edit: So with your program I can do all what you said to do before, plus create backups of my apps and their saved data to my phone?
Edit2: Damnit. I'm on 32bit T_T
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It cant create backup of apps only. It can only create a full backup.
Yes ATM it can only work on 64 bit. Need to change a few thing before it works on 32 bit
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anders3408 said:
It cant create backup of apps only. It can only create a full backup.
Yes ATM it can only work on 64 bit. Need to change a few thing before it works on 32 bit
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I found some good looking ways of updating to the latest firmware, but since I'm a newb I cant actually link them to you so you could give them the thumbs up I'm just getting so tired of having a crappy ass old firmware on my phone now T_T plus I'm hoping the new firmware could fix a few problems. I'm half tempted to just backup my contacts and just factory reboot my whole phone...and live with it not being rooted until the end of my contract. Should I just give up and do that? XD