Update to Froyo (OTA or Manual) wipes data? - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi Guys
I tried searching before I posted this one - if not, I'm sorry
I have a stock unlocked Nexus One AT&T (EPE54B) with stock (unrooted) 2.1 installed
Since Google has started rolling out Froyo update for the Nexus this week, I am very much looking forward to it
A small question I had was if I update to Froyo (FRF85) over the air, do I lose the data on my phone? I have MyBackupPro installed - Will that help, or should I do something else?
Will it be the same if I install Froyo manually?
Cheers to all for reading this post

chetanthaker said:
Hi Guys
I tried searching before I posted this one - if not, I'm sorry
I have a stock unlocked Nexus One AT&T (EPE54B) with stock (unrooted) 2.1 installed
Since Google has started rolling out Froyo update for the Nexus this week, I am very much looking forward to it
A small question I had was if I update to Froyo (FRF85) over the air, do I lose the data on my phone? I have MyBackupPro installed - Will that help, or should I do something else?
Will it be the same if I install Froyo manually?
Cheers to all for reading this post
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You shouldn't lose data in either case, assuming you don't wipe when doing a manual install, but I would certainly use something like titanium backup just to be sure.

@MSigler
Thanks for the reply - But don't I need to root to get TitaniumBackup to work?
Wouldn't any app that does not need root back my stuff up 'reliably'?
Just a little paranoid about rooting my 2-month old Nexus.

chetanthaker said:
@MSigler
Thanks for the reply - But don't I need to root to get TitaniumBackup to work?
Wouldn't any app that does not need root back my stuff up 'reliably'?
Just a little paranoid about rooting my 2-month old Nexus.
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Astro File manager would back up all your apps, but will not backup your app data.

chetanthaker said:
@MSigler
Thanks for the reply - But don't I need to root to get TitaniumBackup to work?
Wouldn't any app that does not need root back my stuff up 'reliably'?
Just a little paranoid about rooting my 2-month old Nexus.
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D'oh! You're right. I keep forgetting not everyone is rooted.
You really aren't going to lose much with a stock rom though.
Any paid apps will show up in market under "Downloads" so you can download them again.
Your contacts and emails are synced through your google account.
Pictures and music are on your SD card, so they won't be effected at all.
Basically, if for some reason you have to wipe your phone data, you will lose your call log, your app settings (meaning you'll have to go back into the apps and set up your preferences and such), and your text messages.
You shouldn't lose anything at all, but that's the worst case.

I updated from unrooted EPE54B using the manual method and didn't lose a thing....

iboj007 said:
I updated from unrooted EPE54B using the manual method and didn't lose a thing....
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Yeah, you shouldn't lose any data, but I would feel like **** if I told him not to worry about it and he lost all his data, so I'm going with worst case.

MSigler said:
Yeah, you shouldn't lose any data, but I would feel like **** if I told him not to worry about it and he lost all his data, so I'm going with worst case.
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Thanks guys
I'll try updating my phone manually today (if I do not get an OTA update by today noon) - Will update my findings here
I guess this answers my question and we can consider this a closed topic.

Ok, i just updated my stock unrooted unlocked N1 2.1 to Froyo in less than 6 minutes.
Confirmed no data loss when you update.
Sweet!

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Any way to wifi/bluetooth tether w/o ROOT??

So I really would like to tether my G1 phone. I need the tethering done by either wifi or bluetooth (not USB).
Are there any options to do this without rooting?
If not, I guess I'll consider rooting...I just didn't want to have lose all my personal data (messages, bookmarks, etc.). I think that my contacts would be the only thing saved because they are kept on gmail account...so they'd synch on the newly rooted phone?
Thanks in advance for any help!!
bobn4burton said:
So I really would like to tether my G1 phone. I need the tethering done by either wifi or bluetooth (not USB).
Are there any options to do this without rooting?
If not, I guess I'll consider rooting...I just didn't want to have lose all my personal data (messages, bookmarks, etc.). I think that my contacts would be the only thing saved because they are kept on gmail account...so they'd synch on the newly rooted phone?
Thanks in advance for any help!!
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PDA net is the only tehter software that doesn't require root (unless I missed something) but that's USB only. So yes, you'll have to root for tethering over WiFi or bluetooth.
The one click method doesn't require you to wipe, although it is recommended, so if you flash a Cyanogen or JF build all your data should remain in tact.
So, my suggestion is use the one click method to flash Cyanogen's recovery image and from there install Cyanogen's 4.04 ROM without wiping (it's very stable). In theory that should keep all your data. If the phone boot loops after you've flashed Cyanogen's ROM, then just wipe and reflash. That means you would loose your data, but you would have root for tethering.
bobn4burton said:
So I really would like to tether my G1 phone. I need the tethering done by either wifi or bluetooth (not USB).
Are there any options to do this without rooting?
If not, I guess I'll consider rooting...I just didn't want to have lose all my personal data (messages, bookmarks, etc.). I think that my contacts would be the only thing saved because they are kept on gmail account...so they'd synch on the newly rooted phone?
Thanks in advance for any help!!
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Rooting is very easy and quick now i believe theres a link in my signiture to my own guide which is very specific but just stop before you partion your sd card
Thanks for the info so far. Maybe I'll just root my phone then. So before I root, what are all the disadvantages??? Here are the ones I've seen so far...
1. Could lose all your personal data (although this should be minimized if you backup most of your stuff first using a backup app from the marketplace first)??
2. T-Mobile MyFaves app doesn't work.
3. The built in Instant Messaging app doesn't work for MSN, AIM, etc. (Is there an IM app out there that works as well as the default one? So it keeps you signed in all the time?...I need a good IM app that works all the time and keeps you signed in...)
Anything else??
1. Use my backup pro(not free, idk any free ones, sorry) from market to backup/restore all apps/bookmarks/sms/call log/etc
2. MyFaves app works now.
3. I have no idea, since I use Meebo instead.
Just remember that you can't backup stuff like texts and bookmarks before rooting, as backup apps require root
Ah...interesting.
So when you root...there isn't really anyway to go back to just how you were before trying to root?? I'm guessing you need root first in order to use a full backup utility like nandroid backup or something?
All in all...I need to root, just trying to figure out for sure what I'm getting into before the jump.
harpreet1988 said:
2. MyFaves app works now.
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Does it? Does it come stock with cyanogenmod 4.0.1 or 4.0.4? Or do you have to install it after the fact? Any links that talks about how to do this?
harpreet1988 said:
3. I have no idea, since I use Meebo instead.
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Does it work pretty well for you? Does it keep you signed in all the time? Even when your phone goes idle? Do you like it as good as the default Android IM app?
You can use most backup programs without rooting.
bobn4burton said:
Does it? Does it come stock with cyanogenmod 4.0.1 or 4.0.4? Or do you have to install it after the fact? Any links that talks about how to do this?
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You can install it (use "appsinstaller" from market) to install the .apk.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=542267&page=2
You can get it from this thread.
bobn4burton said:
Does it work pretty well for you? Does it keep you signed in all the time? Even when your phone goes idle? Do you like it as good as the default Android IM app?
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I don't use the default IM app because I don't have unlimited texting. I like meebo, though sometimes it signs out, it has an auto sign-in option. It works for me. YMMV
It looks like MyBackup from the Market doesn't require root and has a 30 day free trial

[Q] HELP!!!!

Ok, so I have a rooted Nexus One with cyanogen 6.0rc3 on it. I recently tried to put cyanogen 6.1 on it so I could upgrade to 7.0. Then, I see the common glitch where there is no market so I revert back to my old rom which I made a backup for(using ROM Manager). So here comes the hard part, when it restores my ROM, have no apps, no nothing which I downloaded, and I tried to restore again, because ROM Manager reinstalled, but I didn't get anything. Can some tell me how to get my data and all my stuff back, please?!?!?!?! If I don't get help by the end of the month, my service gets cut off, so I really need help!!!! Please help guys, thanks in advance, you guys are the bomb!!!!
yellofello99 said:
If I don't get help by the end of the month, my service gets cut off, so I really need help!!!!
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What's that supposed to mean? You lose service because you don't have the data on your phone restored?
Are you using apps2sd?
I feel like you have no chance of restoring anything at the moment though.
If you have a custom recovery, just wipe and start again, or restore your backup... Make sure you have a gapps package that is compatible with your ROM...
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All your apps will be in the market under 'my apps' and as long as you have synched with Google servers all your data should be retrieveable by re-synching.
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yellofello99 said:
Ok, so I have a rooted Nexus One with cyanogen 6.0rc3 on it. I recently tried to put cyanogen 6.1 on it so I could upgrade to 7.0. Then, I see the common glitch where there is no market so I revert back to my old rom which I made a backup for(using ROM Manager). So here comes the hard part, when it restores my ROM, have no apps, no nothing which I downloaded, and I tried to restore again, because ROM Manager reinstalled, but I didn't get anything. Can some tell me how to get my data and all my stuff back, please?!?!?!?! If I don't get help by the end of the month, my service gets cut off, so I really need help!!!! Please help guys, thanks in advance, you guys are the bomb!!!!
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You don't need to go to cm6.1 to get to cm7. Even on 6.1 you need to do a full wipe anyway to eliminate any potential problems.
Also did you happen to use CWM 3.0?
danger-rat said:
If you have a custom recovery, just wipe and start again, or restore your backup... Make sure you have a gapps package that is compatible with your ROM...
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I tried to restore my backup, it doesn't work for some reason
sparkyryan said:
All your apps will be in the market under 'my apps' and as long as you have synched with Google servers all your data should be retrieveable by re-synching.
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I tried that, too, not all of my apps restored, and my data would be gone on them anyway
baseballfanz said:
You don't need to go to cm6.1 to get to cm7. Even on 6.1 you need to do a full wipe anyway to eliminate any potential problems.
Also did you happen to use CWM 3.0?
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I was using 3.0

Root N1 Gingerbread without losing my data?

Hi guys, I know if I root the N1 I won't lose my data, but does this also apply if I have Gingerbread installed?
And secondly, if I root, then backup, then flash a new ROM, can I restore my data (app settings, SMS, bookmarks, home screens, etc.) into the *new* ROM?
you only have to lose data and wipe the first time when you root. after that you never have to worry about losing anything again as you just backup when you switch between ROMs. titanium backup is used by most of us. mybackup pro is another one.
Thanks but right now I am unrooted. Is there no way to root without losing my current data?
Gingerbreak and the various derivatives (apk, and I believe an updated Superoneclick) let you root without losing data, though there is always a chance that data loss could occur even with those methods...
Thanks. Could you forward me the link to the simplest, most reliable method, suitable even for noobs?
Look in the general section cuz I saw paul2000 posted a guy for newbs
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Paul's guide is pre-Gingerbread, and out of date. This is better, just make sure you follow the instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13090966&postcount=67
danger-rat said:
Paul's guide is pre-Gingerbread, and out of date. This is better, just make sure you follow the instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13090966&postcount=67
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Thanks - yes I hate all the out of date stuff on here that never gets updated. This is why people don't 'use search' - it can't be as trusted as asking the question again, up-to-date.
Your link did it - thanks!

[Q] Upgrading Galaxy S to 2.3..

Hi Everyone,
I would like to know that when i upgrade from 2.2 to 2.3 would i lose all my games saved data?
hell_storm2004 said:
Hi Everyone,
I would like to know that when i upgrade from 2.2 to 2.3 would i lose all my games saved data?
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Yes, you will lose your data almost every way you do it. If your phone is rooted you can backup all your app's with Titanium backup, the pro version allows you to batch backup everything and then batch restore everything including your saved games. The free version means you have to do them one at time. Hope this helps
Last time when i did it with Kies.. I dont remember losing anything except Msg, Contacts and phone records. Well i think i did not even have a game installed!
Did it only a week after buying the cell phone. Since then its very slow!
As shrapnel2 said there is always a chance of losing information when you upgrade either using Kies or Odin. Make a backup before you do anything.
Better safe than sorry!!!
I would definitely back it up. So after the update do i have to reinstall the games once again or they would be there? This is the first time i am doing it with the phone loaded with data that's why the questions!
hell_storm2004 said:
I would definitely back it up. So after the update do i have to reinstall the games once again or they would be there? This is the first time i am doing it with the phone loaded with data that's why the questions!
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They might be missing after the update but if you use Titanium Backup you can restore all of your games and the data to go with them in a single operation.
I see that Titanium Backup requires root. I have to root my phone.
When moving app data from froyo to gingerbread the data can often cause conflicts, so regardless of wether you backup or not my advice is not to restore data, but many have got away with it, it really comes down to an app by app scenario, and yes, titanium needs root to backup data
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hell_storm2004 said:
I see that Titanium Backup requires root. I have to root my phone.
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if you don't.know how, check the Vibrant Bible
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Yeah i got my phone rooted. Used the SuperOneClick Root App.
Now since you say that, even Titanium Backup tool is not fool proof to back up the data and restore it on to Gingerbread, you have put me in a lot of dilemma!
I have a few games in to which i have put in months of effort and patience, and i dont want to start playing all over again! Especially a game called Islanders!!
well at the end of the day it is up to you.
I always like to be up to date with my firmwares but if you are happy with Froyo and are that concerned about losing your saved game info you might be better off staying where you are...
That is the problem! Even i would like to stay up to date. But this data portability issue is something that is bothering me. I'll give Titanium back up a shot and see what it does. If it doesn't work i'll be giving it pretty bad review on the market!
coultdnt he just make a NANDROID and the unroot, upgrade, root and advanced restore data
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[Q] New S/W Update, But I Rooted, What To Do?

Hi Forum!
So I rooted my optimus 2x, backed up and removed the f-secure and car home (uninstalled), but now there's a S/W update up? LGP990-V10c afaik.
Is it safe to update through PC? Read about about some people bricking their phones, and I'm still all-new to this whole android thing!
Appreciate the help
Kind Regards
~Nefy
Neefy said:
Hi Forum!
So I rooted my optimus 2x, backed up and removed the f-secure and car home (uninstalled), but now there's a S/W update up? LGP990-V10c afaik.
Is it safe to update through PC? Read about about some people bricking their phones, and I'm still all-new to this whole android thing!
Appreciate the help
Kind Regards
~Nefy
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Relax just update is ok!
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Then after the update, all you need to to is re-root, re-remove your chosen bloatware, and re-enjoy you phone.
It's asking me to do a security backup, should I do this? Something like that
Neefy said:
It's asking me to do a security backup, should I do this? Something like that
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If it's F-Secure asking to do that, just ignore it.. You're gonna remove it anyway
But do the regular backup, contacts, memo, things like that, before you update
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Can you please, confirm that update went ok for you?
Same scenario. The update worked great for me. (It didn't even wipe my phone data, but it's always a good idea to backup. Just in case anything goes wrong.)
When I use LG Update Service, it told me if I wanted to make a security backup or something along those lines?
Neefy said:
When I use LG Update Service, it told me if I wanted to make a security backup or something along those lines?
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It's just asking you to backup your contacts/notes/calendar etc. I didn't do that anymore. Just went through the update without backing up since I already have a nandroid.
salisbury_steak said:
It's just asking you to backup your contacts/notes/calendar etc. I didn't do that anymore. Just went through the update without backing up since I already have a nandroid.
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What is a Nandroid? Is it something I should get (not need, but would be smart to get), if so any guides around or such?
Appreciate it Sorry for the newbie questions, just don't want anything to go wrong!
a nandroid backup is a backup image created with clockworkmod recovery, aka cwm. cwm is a minimalistic recovery os you can install it on your phone alongside the rom you are using
I think Smartflash is the way to go. You can find a stock image at modaco. Boot into APX mode and flash away!

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