So I really would like to tether my G1 phone. I need the tethering done by either wifi or bluetooth (not USB).
Are there any options to do this without rooting?
If not, I guess I'll consider rooting...I just didn't want to have lose all my personal data (messages, bookmarks, etc.). I think that my contacts would be the only thing saved because they are kept on gmail account...so they'd synch on the newly rooted phone?
Thanks in advance for any help!!
bobn4burton said:
So I really would like to tether my G1 phone. I need the tethering done by either wifi or bluetooth (not USB).
Are there any options to do this without rooting?
If not, I guess I'll consider rooting...I just didn't want to have lose all my personal data (messages, bookmarks, etc.). I think that my contacts would be the only thing saved because they are kept on gmail account...so they'd synch on the newly rooted phone?
Thanks in advance for any help!!
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PDA net is the only tehter software that doesn't require root (unless I missed something) but that's USB only. So yes, you'll have to root for tethering over WiFi or bluetooth.
The one click method doesn't require you to wipe, although it is recommended, so if you flash a Cyanogen or JF build all your data should remain in tact.
So, my suggestion is use the one click method to flash Cyanogen's recovery image and from there install Cyanogen's 4.04 ROM without wiping (it's very stable). In theory that should keep all your data. If the phone boot loops after you've flashed Cyanogen's ROM, then just wipe and reflash. That means you would loose your data, but you would have root for tethering.
bobn4burton said:
So I really would like to tether my G1 phone. I need the tethering done by either wifi or bluetooth (not USB).
Are there any options to do this without rooting?
If not, I guess I'll consider rooting...I just didn't want to have lose all my personal data (messages, bookmarks, etc.). I think that my contacts would be the only thing saved because they are kept on gmail account...so they'd synch on the newly rooted phone?
Thanks in advance for any help!!
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Rooting is very easy and quick now i believe theres a link in my signiture to my own guide which is very specific but just stop before you partion your sd card
Thanks for the info so far. Maybe I'll just root my phone then. So before I root, what are all the disadvantages??? Here are the ones I've seen so far...
1. Could lose all your personal data (although this should be minimized if you backup most of your stuff first using a backup app from the marketplace first)??
2. T-Mobile MyFaves app doesn't work.
3. The built in Instant Messaging app doesn't work for MSN, AIM, etc. (Is there an IM app out there that works as well as the default one? So it keeps you signed in all the time?...I need a good IM app that works all the time and keeps you signed in...)
Anything else??
1. Use my backup pro(not free, idk any free ones, sorry) from market to backup/restore all apps/bookmarks/sms/call log/etc
2. MyFaves app works now.
3. I have no idea, since I use Meebo instead.
Just remember that you can't backup stuff like texts and bookmarks before rooting, as backup apps require root
Ah...interesting.
So when you root...there isn't really anyway to go back to just how you were before trying to root?? I'm guessing you need root first in order to use a full backup utility like nandroid backup or something?
All in all...I need to root, just trying to figure out for sure what I'm getting into before the jump.
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2. MyFaves app works now.
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Does it? Does it come stock with cyanogenmod 4.0.1 or 4.0.4? Or do you have to install it after the fact? Any links that talks about how to do this?
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3. I have no idea, since I use Meebo instead.
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Does it work pretty well for you? Does it keep you signed in all the time? Even when your phone goes idle? Do you like it as good as the default Android IM app?
You can use most backup programs without rooting.
bobn4burton said:
Does it? Does it come stock with cyanogenmod 4.0.1 or 4.0.4? Or do you have to install it after the fact? Any links that talks about how to do this?
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You can install it (use "appsinstaller" from market) to install the .apk.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=542267&page=2
You can get it from this thread.
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Does it work pretty well for you? Does it keep you signed in all the time? Even when your phone goes idle? Do you like it as good as the default Android IM app?
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I don't use the default IM app because I don't have unlimited texting. I like meebo, though sometimes it signs out, it has an auto sign-in option. It works for me. YMMV
It looks like MyBackup from the Market doesn't require root and has a 30 day free trial
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Hi Guys
I tried searching before I posted this one - if not, I'm sorry
I have a stock unlocked Nexus One AT&T (EPE54B) with stock (unrooted) 2.1 installed
Since Google has started rolling out Froyo update for the Nexus this week, I am very much looking forward to it
A small question I had was if I update to Froyo (FRF85) over the air, do I lose the data on my phone? I have MyBackupPro installed - Will that help, or should I do something else?
Will it be the same if I install Froyo manually?
Cheers to all for reading this post
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Hi Guys
I tried searching before I posted this one - if not, I'm sorry
I have a stock unlocked Nexus One AT&T (EPE54B) with stock (unrooted) 2.1 installed
Since Google has started rolling out Froyo update for the Nexus this week, I am very much looking forward to it
A small question I had was if I update to Froyo (FRF85) over the air, do I lose the data on my phone? I have MyBackupPro installed - Will that help, or should I do something else?
Will it be the same if I install Froyo manually?
Cheers to all for reading this post
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You shouldn't lose data in either case, assuming you don't wipe when doing a manual install, but I would certainly use something like titanium backup just to be sure.
@MSigler
Thanks for the reply - But don't I need to root to get TitaniumBackup to work?
Wouldn't any app that does not need root back my stuff up 'reliably'?
Just a little paranoid about rooting my 2-month old Nexus.
chetanthaker said:
@MSigler
Thanks for the reply - But don't I need to root to get TitaniumBackup to work?
Wouldn't any app that does not need root back my stuff up 'reliably'?
Just a little paranoid about rooting my 2-month old Nexus.
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Astro File manager would back up all your apps, but will not backup your app data.
chetanthaker said:
@MSigler
Thanks for the reply - But don't I need to root to get TitaniumBackup to work?
Wouldn't any app that does not need root back my stuff up 'reliably'?
Just a little paranoid about rooting my 2-month old Nexus.
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D'oh! You're right. I keep forgetting not everyone is rooted.
You really aren't going to lose much with a stock rom though.
Any paid apps will show up in market under "Downloads" so you can download them again.
Your contacts and emails are synced through your google account.
Pictures and music are on your SD card, so they won't be effected at all.
Basically, if for some reason you have to wipe your phone data, you will lose your call log, your app settings (meaning you'll have to go back into the apps and set up your preferences and such), and your text messages.
You shouldn't lose anything at all, but that's the worst case.
I updated from unrooted EPE54B using the manual method and didn't lose a thing....
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I updated from unrooted EPE54B using the manual method and didn't lose a thing....
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Yeah, you shouldn't lose any data, but I would feel like **** if I told him not to worry about it and he lost all his data, so I'm going with worst case.
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Yeah, you shouldn't lose any data, but I would feel like **** if I told him not to worry about it and he lost all his data, so I'm going with worst case.
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Thanks guys
I'll try updating my phone manually today (if I do not get an OTA update by today noon) - Will update my findings here
I guess this answers my question and we can consider this a closed topic.
Ok, i just updated my stock unrooted unlocked N1 2.1 to Froyo in less than 6 minutes.
Confirmed no data loss when you update.
Sweet!
I'm flash happy but every time I do all my text history is gone. Where are those kept so I can save them between roms?
Sent from my thing with that app
Belaflek said:
I'm flash happy but every time I do all my text history is gone. Where are those kept so I can save them between roms?
Sent from my thing with that app
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You will lose them unless you back them up. I use sms backup+ from the market. It links your messaging app with gmail so you can back up and restore.
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If you use Titanium Backup, your texts are automatically backed up when you do a full system data + apps backup. You can restore them manually from the Backup/Restore tab of TiBu (it's one of the items in green, I forgot which one exactly). Just make sure you don't choose to restore all system data with TiBu or you might mess up your ROM and have to reflash. You'll have to reboot your phone after the restore for your texts to show up.
Roof King said:
You will lose them unless you back them up. I use sms backup+ from the market. It links your messaging app with gmail so you can back up and restore.
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+1 SMS backup + is really easy and works flawless for me.
Don't use titanium backup to restore texts. Often it will cause force closes that require a reflash to fix depending on which roms you are moving between.
You could just change roms without using odin or clearing like I do, heh.
RuizGT said:
You could just change roms without using odin or clearing like I do, heh.
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And this also isn't a best way to install a ROM. Yeah it works, but you also can run the risks of a bad install. I think we'll all agree, the last thing we need is more threads regarding constant force closing or soft-bricked phones.
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I REALLY like SMS Backup+. I have automatic backups set, and since everything gets backed up to my Gmail account, that's one less thing I need to remember to copy off the phone before a ROM flash.
norcal einstein said:
And this also isn't a best way to install a ROM. Yeah it works, but you also can run the risks of a bad install. I think we'll all agree, the last thing we need is more threads regarding constant force closing or soft-bricked phones.
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I REALLY like SMS Backup+. I have automatic backups set, and since everything gets backed up to my Gmail account, that's one less thing I need to remember to copy off the phone before a ROM flash.
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I agree, I'm not recommending it, just saying.
RuizGT said:
I agree, I'm not recommending it, just saying.
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You shouldn't have to use odin but I agree. Definitely clear cash and data.
I don't think we should be recommending odin one click to everyone because it can harm the newest build of captivates. It's also very unnecessary.
norcal einstein said:
And this also isn't a best way to install a ROM. Yeah it works, but you also can run the risks of a bad install. I think we'll all agree, the last thing we need is more threads regarding constant force closing or soft-bricked phones.
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I disagree. Bad ROM installs usually mean fc's, isolated problems and maybe stuck at boot screen. If that happens, simply wipe data+cache and try again. Flashing back to stock on the other hand--if something goes wrong, you're looking at a soft-brick (requiring a jig on some Captivates), worst-case-scenario, your bootloader is corrupt and you hope you know someone with a JTAG.
Hi guys, I know if I root the N1 I won't lose my data, but does this also apply if I have Gingerbread installed?
And secondly, if I root, then backup, then flash a new ROM, can I restore my data (app settings, SMS, bookmarks, home screens, etc.) into the *new* ROM?
you only have to lose data and wipe the first time when you root. after that you never have to worry about losing anything again as you just backup when you switch between ROMs. titanium backup is used by most of us. mybackup pro is another one.
Thanks but right now I am unrooted. Is there no way to root without losing my current data?
Gingerbreak and the various derivatives (apk, and I believe an updated Superoneclick) let you root without losing data, though there is always a chance that data loss could occur even with those methods...
Thanks. Could you forward me the link to the simplest, most reliable method, suitable even for noobs?
Look in the general section cuz I saw paul2000 posted a guy for newbs
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Paul's guide is pre-Gingerbread, and out of date. This is better, just make sure you follow the instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13090966&postcount=67
danger-rat said:
Paul's guide is pre-Gingerbread, and out of date. This is better, just make sure you follow the instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13090966&postcount=67
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Thanks - yes I hate all the out of date stuff on here that never gets updated. This is why people don't 'use search' - it can't be as trusted as asking the question again, up-to-date.
Your link did it - thanks!
Hi, a small question.
As some of you here that uses Rocket rom and has been flashing every new update by Eybee, i have settings made for apps that i uses, i usually do a fullwipe, and it's tedious to redo all settings from ground up once i flash and redownloading apps. Are there ways i could save the apps and it's settings at the same time, hence i do not need to redo everything for every fullwipe/flash?
blecap said:
Hi, a small question.
As some of you here that uses Rocket rom and has been flashing every new update by Eybee, i have settings made for apps that i uses, i usually do a fullwipe, and it's tedious to redo all settings from ground up once i flash and redownloading apps. Are there ways i could save the apps and it's settings at the same time, hence i do not need to redo everything for every fullwipe/flash?
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Titanium Backup
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Titanium Backup
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Yes. Redo backups for new data. Some apps won't hold it no matter what.
System settings is something I don't do a restore for just to be safe. I can have all my regular settings loaded in no time now.
I'd Suggest mybackup pro as a better alternative
I'd Suggest mybackup pro as a better alternative as it doesnot backup up system apps.. i have been using it without troubles for a long time.. just love it.. TB.. im not in...
prudviraj said:
I'd Suggest mybackup pro as a better alternative as it doesnot backup up system apps.. i have been using it without troubles for a long time.. just love it.. TB.. im not in...
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TB doesn't back up system apps by default. You can have it backup whatever you want though. Years ago I paid for it so I still use it. Can't comment on the other as I haven't felt the need to try anything else.
Hey there,
Im kinda new to the whole flashing roms/kernals, but would love to give it ago!
Ive had my HTC one for a while now, so i have alot of stuff i wanna keep.
Whats the best way of backing every file up so i can go back to it all after ive unlocked the bootloader and rooted the phone?
Thanks
coldjim said:
Hey there,
Im kinda new to the whole flashing roms/kernals, but would love to give it ago!
Ive had my HTC one for a while now, so i have alot of stuff i wanna keep.
Whats the best way of backing every file up so i can go back to it all after ive unlocked the bootloader and rooted the phone?
Thanks
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what kind of files are you referring to? Pictures, video, music, apps?
alray said:
what kind of files are you referring to? Pictures, video, music, apps?
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pretty much everything. Is there anyway to do a full backup of everything and then restore it all when ive done unlocking the bootloader and rooted the phone?
Contracts, SMS (if possible), all my media and apps are what im mainly looking to back up
coldjim said:
pretty much everything. Is there anyway to do a full backup of everything and then restore it all when ive done unlocking the bootloader and rooted the phone?
Contracts, SMS (if possible), all my media and apps are what im mainly looking to back up
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full backup of the phone require an app like titanium backup. Unfortunately those app generally require root privileges. Btw contacts are normally saved to your google account. You can backup your user preferences and app settings with htc backup. You can also restore app from google play store. You can backup all your media directly on your pc.
alray said:
full backup of the phone require an app like titanium backup. Unfortunately those app generally require root privileges. Btw contacts are normally saved to your google account. You can backup your user preferences and app settings with htc backup. You can also restore app from google play store. You can backup all your media directly on your pc.
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Ok great! maybe im just over thinking it.... bit worried about losing everything on my phone!
coldjim said:
Ok great! maybe im just over thinking it.... bit worried about losing everything on my phone!
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after you unlocked bootloader and flashed a custom recovery, make sure to make a nandroid backup of your phone before starting to flash stuff. So if something goes wrong you can restore from that backup. Make sure also to make a copy of that backup to your computer.
beware that when you will unlock your bootloader.......it will wipe your apps......just do some more reading before starting......cheers!
coldjim said:
Ok great! maybe im just over thinking it.... bit worried about losing everything on my phone!
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rauldumi said:
beware that when you will unlock your bootloader.......it will wipe your apps......just do some more reading before starting......cheers!
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Yes im pretty sure hes aware of this, that's why he asked this question.
alray said:
Yes im pretty sure hes aware of this, that's why he asked this question.
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ye i am! haha thats what i was asking, if i could back everything up including apps!
But thanks for helping me! Im gonna do it shortly i think
coldjim said:
ye i am! haha thats what i was asking, if i could back everything up including apps!
But thanks for helping me! Im gonna do it shortly i think
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
this is an app to backup ur apps. Install the program on ur pc nd back up. the backup will be created in a folder called Carbon in the root of the phone internal storage. MAKE SURE THAT YOU COPY THIS FOLDER TO UR PC COZ THE INTERNAL STORAGE WILL GET WIPED AFTER A BOOTLOADER UNLOCK
To backup call logs,
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.CallLogBackupRestore
Just drag nd drop the media to ur PC(music, pics, movies, etc.)
If anyone like me, reading this way later...
There seams to be some apps that doesn't allow Helium to backup it's data. App tells you to ask the individual developer to allow backups for the app in question. I did it anyway, because none of the apps that was disallowed had data you'd want or shouldn't backup. Mostly banking stuff and some secure conversation apps. There are also a bunch of apps just failing to backup...might be something I did wrong...