Root N1 Gingerbread without losing my data? - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys, I know if I root the N1 I won't lose my data, but does this also apply if I have Gingerbread installed?
And secondly, if I root, then backup, then flash a new ROM, can I restore my data (app settings, SMS, bookmarks, home screens, etc.) into the *new* ROM?

you only have to lose data and wipe the first time when you root. after that you never have to worry about losing anything again as you just backup when you switch between ROMs. titanium backup is used by most of us. mybackup pro is another one.

Thanks but right now I am unrooted. Is there no way to root without losing my current data?

Gingerbreak and the various derivatives (apk, and I believe an updated Superoneclick) let you root without losing data, though there is always a chance that data loss could occur even with those methods...

Thanks. Could you forward me the link to the simplest, most reliable method, suitable even for noobs?

Look in the general section cuz I saw paul2000 posted a guy for newbs
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Paul's guide is pre-Gingerbread, and out of date. This is better, just make sure you follow the instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13090966&postcount=67

danger-rat said:
Paul's guide is pre-Gingerbread, and out of date. This is better, just make sure you follow the instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13090966&postcount=67
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Thanks - yes I hate all the out of date stuff on here that never gets updated. This is why people don't 'use search' - it can't be as trusted as asking the question again, up-to-date.
Your link did it - thanks!

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Any way to wifi/bluetooth tether w/o ROOT??

So I really would like to tether my G1 phone. I need the tethering done by either wifi or bluetooth (not USB).
Are there any options to do this without rooting?
If not, I guess I'll consider rooting...I just didn't want to have lose all my personal data (messages, bookmarks, etc.). I think that my contacts would be the only thing saved because they are kept on gmail account...so they'd synch on the newly rooted phone?
Thanks in advance for any help!!
bobn4burton said:
So I really would like to tether my G1 phone. I need the tethering done by either wifi or bluetooth (not USB).
Are there any options to do this without rooting?
If not, I guess I'll consider rooting...I just didn't want to have lose all my personal data (messages, bookmarks, etc.). I think that my contacts would be the only thing saved because they are kept on gmail account...so they'd synch on the newly rooted phone?
Thanks in advance for any help!!
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PDA net is the only tehter software that doesn't require root (unless I missed something) but that's USB only. So yes, you'll have to root for tethering over WiFi or bluetooth.
The one click method doesn't require you to wipe, although it is recommended, so if you flash a Cyanogen or JF build all your data should remain in tact.
So, my suggestion is use the one click method to flash Cyanogen's recovery image and from there install Cyanogen's 4.04 ROM without wiping (it's very stable). In theory that should keep all your data. If the phone boot loops after you've flashed Cyanogen's ROM, then just wipe and reflash. That means you would loose your data, but you would have root for tethering.
bobn4burton said:
So I really would like to tether my G1 phone. I need the tethering done by either wifi or bluetooth (not USB).
Are there any options to do this without rooting?
If not, I guess I'll consider rooting...I just didn't want to have lose all my personal data (messages, bookmarks, etc.). I think that my contacts would be the only thing saved because they are kept on gmail account...so they'd synch on the newly rooted phone?
Thanks in advance for any help!!
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Rooting is very easy and quick now i believe theres a link in my signiture to my own guide which is very specific but just stop before you partion your sd card
Thanks for the info so far. Maybe I'll just root my phone then. So before I root, what are all the disadvantages??? Here are the ones I've seen so far...
1. Could lose all your personal data (although this should be minimized if you backup most of your stuff first using a backup app from the marketplace first)??
2. T-Mobile MyFaves app doesn't work.
3. The built in Instant Messaging app doesn't work for MSN, AIM, etc. (Is there an IM app out there that works as well as the default one? So it keeps you signed in all the time?...I need a good IM app that works all the time and keeps you signed in...)
Anything else??
1. Use my backup pro(not free, idk any free ones, sorry) from market to backup/restore all apps/bookmarks/sms/call log/etc
2. MyFaves app works now.
3. I have no idea, since I use Meebo instead.
Just remember that you can't backup stuff like texts and bookmarks before rooting, as backup apps require root
Ah...interesting.
So when you root...there isn't really anyway to go back to just how you were before trying to root?? I'm guessing you need root first in order to use a full backup utility like nandroid backup or something?
All in all...I need to root, just trying to figure out for sure what I'm getting into before the jump.
harpreet1988 said:
2. MyFaves app works now.
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Does it? Does it come stock with cyanogenmod 4.0.1 or 4.0.4? Or do you have to install it after the fact? Any links that talks about how to do this?
harpreet1988 said:
3. I have no idea, since I use Meebo instead.
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Does it work pretty well for you? Does it keep you signed in all the time? Even when your phone goes idle? Do you like it as good as the default Android IM app?
You can use most backup programs without rooting.
bobn4burton said:
Does it? Does it come stock with cyanogenmod 4.0.1 or 4.0.4? Or do you have to install it after the fact? Any links that talks about how to do this?
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You can install it (use "appsinstaller" from market) to install the .apk.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=542267&page=2
You can get it from this thread.
bobn4burton said:
Does it work pretty well for you? Does it keep you signed in all the time? Even when your phone goes idle? Do you like it as good as the default Android IM app?
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I don't use the default IM app because I don't have unlimited texting. I like meebo, though sometimes it signs out, it has an auto sign-in option. It works for me. YMMV
It looks like MyBackup from the Market doesn't require root and has a 30 day free trial

Update to Froyo (OTA or Manual) wipes data?

Hi Guys
I tried searching before I posted this one - if not, I'm sorry
I have a stock unlocked Nexus One AT&T (EPE54B) with stock (unrooted) 2.1 installed
Since Google has started rolling out Froyo update for the Nexus this week, I am very much looking forward to it
A small question I had was if I update to Froyo (FRF85) over the air, do I lose the data on my phone? I have MyBackupPro installed - Will that help, or should I do something else?
Will it be the same if I install Froyo manually?
Cheers to all for reading this post
chetanthaker said:
Hi Guys
I tried searching before I posted this one - if not, I'm sorry
I have a stock unlocked Nexus One AT&T (EPE54B) with stock (unrooted) 2.1 installed
Since Google has started rolling out Froyo update for the Nexus this week, I am very much looking forward to it
A small question I had was if I update to Froyo (FRF85) over the air, do I lose the data on my phone? I have MyBackupPro installed - Will that help, or should I do something else?
Will it be the same if I install Froyo manually?
Cheers to all for reading this post
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You shouldn't lose data in either case, assuming you don't wipe when doing a manual install, but I would certainly use something like titanium backup just to be sure.
@MSigler
Thanks for the reply - But don't I need to root to get TitaniumBackup to work?
Wouldn't any app that does not need root back my stuff up 'reliably'?
Just a little paranoid about rooting my 2-month old Nexus.
chetanthaker said:
@MSigler
Thanks for the reply - But don't I need to root to get TitaniumBackup to work?
Wouldn't any app that does not need root back my stuff up 'reliably'?
Just a little paranoid about rooting my 2-month old Nexus.
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Astro File manager would back up all your apps, but will not backup your app data.
chetanthaker said:
@MSigler
Thanks for the reply - But don't I need to root to get TitaniumBackup to work?
Wouldn't any app that does not need root back my stuff up 'reliably'?
Just a little paranoid about rooting my 2-month old Nexus.
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D'oh! You're right. I keep forgetting not everyone is rooted.
You really aren't going to lose much with a stock rom though.
Any paid apps will show up in market under "Downloads" so you can download them again.
Your contacts and emails are synced through your google account.
Pictures and music are on your SD card, so they won't be effected at all.
Basically, if for some reason you have to wipe your phone data, you will lose your call log, your app settings (meaning you'll have to go back into the apps and set up your preferences and such), and your text messages.
You shouldn't lose anything at all, but that's the worst case.
I updated from unrooted EPE54B using the manual method and didn't lose a thing....
iboj007 said:
I updated from unrooted EPE54B using the manual method and didn't lose a thing....
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Yeah, you shouldn't lose any data, but I would feel like **** if I told him not to worry about it and he lost all his data, so I'm going with worst case.
MSigler said:
Yeah, you shouldn't lose any data, but I would feel like **** if I told him not to worry about it and he lost all his data, so I'm going with worst case.
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Thanks guys
I'll try updating my phone manually today (if I do not get an OTA update by today noon) - Will update my findings here
I guess this answers my question and we can consider this a closed topic.
Ok, i just updated my stock unrooted unlocked N1 2.1 to Froyo in less than 6 minutes.
Confirmed no data loss when you update.
Sweet!

[Q] Upgrading Galaxy S to 2.3..

Hi Everyone,
I would like to know that when i upgrade from 2.2 to 2.3 would i lose all my games saved data?
hell_storm2004 said:
Hi Everyone,
I would like to know that when i upgrade from 2.2 to 2.3 would i lose all my games saved data?
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Yes, you will lose your data almost every way you do it. If your phone is rooted you can backup all your app's with Titanium backup, the pro version allows you to batch backup everything and then batch restore everything including your saved games. The free version means you have to do them one at time. Hope this helps
Last time when i did it with Kies.. I dont remember losing anything except Msg, Contacts and phone records. Well i think i did not even have a game installed!
Did it only a week after buying the cell phone. Since then its very slow!
As shrapnel2 said there is always a chance of losing information when you upgrade either using Kies or Odin. Make a backup before you do anything.
Better safe than sorry!!!
I would definitely back it up. So after the update do i have to reinstall the games once again or they would be there? This is the first time i am doing it with the phone loaded with data that's why the questions!
hell_storm2004 said:
I would definitely back it up. So after the update do i have to reinstall the games once again or they would be there? This is the first time i am doing it with the phone loaded with data that's why the questions!
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They might be missing after the update but if you use Titanium Backup you can restore all of your games and the data to go with them in a single operation.
I see that Titanium Backup requires root. I have to root my phone.
When moving app data from froyo to gingerbread the data can often cause conflicts, so regardless of wether you backup or not my advice is not to restore data, but many have got away with it, it really comes down to an app by app scenario, and yes, titanium needs root to backup data
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I see that Titanium Backup requires root. I have to root my phone.
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if you don't.know how, check the Vibrant Bible
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Yeah i got my phone rooted. Used the SuperOneClick Root App.
Now since you say that, even Titanium Backup tool is not fool proof to back up the data and restore it on to Gingerbread, you have put me in a lot of dilemma!
I have a few games in to which i have put in months of effort and patience, and i dont want to start playing all over again! Especially a game called Islanders!!
well at the end of the day it is up to you.
I always like to be up to date with my firmwares but if you are happy with Froyo and are that concerned about losing your saved game info you might be better off staying where you are...
That is the problem! Even i would like to stay up to date. But this data portability issue is something that is bothering me. I'll give Titanium back up a shot and see what it does. If it doesn't work i'll be giving it pretty bad review on the market!
coultdnt he just make a NANDROID and the unroot, upgrade, root and advanced restore data
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Initial setup/best practices

Soon-to-be, first-time, smart phone owner here.
My new Revolution is on the way and I have a few questions for current owners, rooters and rom installers.
I want to remove bloatware and Bing, improve battery life, allow tethering, and unlock the FM radio. Should I wait for Gingerbread? Root only? Install a custom Rom?
I know that the rooting process and roms improve over time and would also appreciate some input to the most current root/rom process.
Thanks,
J.
I would root right away, downgrade if necessary. RevoIt rom is incredibly fast and has bloat removed. We don't know how long until gingerbread so not worth waiting.
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Sorry for double post. Best way to root is if your on VS910V6 is to downgrade (there is a tutorial on here somewhere) and use superoneclick 1.7 ragethecage. If VS910ZV4 is on your phone just use superoneclick regular root. Then you have to put on revotoolkit to put on cwm. There you can flash a new rom
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jackpot08 said:
Sorry for double post. Best way to root is if your on VS910V6 is to downgrade (there is a tutorial on here somewhere) and use superoneclick 1.7 ragethecage. If VS910ZV4 is on your phone just use superoneclick regular root. Then you have to put on revotoolkit to put on cwm. There you can flash a new rom
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Where do I find instructions for S1C 1.7? I went to the "development" forum and the S1C instructions say "confirmed not working, guide removed till update is available."
jyossarian said:
Where do I find instructions for S1C 1.7? I went to the "development" forum and the S1C instructions say "confirmed not working, guide removed till update is available."
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Just extract the files, run the program, plug phone in and select internet mode with USB debugging enabled, select the "rageagainstthecage" exploit in the right hand side drop-down menu and click ROOT.
If it hangs (gets stuck) try checking and unchecking USB Debugging while the program is running and the phone is plugged in.
Thanks for the help so far. I have successfully downgraded and rooted.
I apologize in advance because I know all of these questions have been asked before but there are sooo many guides and youtube videos and forums. Some things might apply to the Revo and some might not.
Anyway...
1. I plan on installing revolt 1.5 but first think I should backup and save a copy of the Verizon Rom to be able to go back if all hell breaks loose or they update to GB. If I backup in clockworkmod, where does the backup go on the sd card? What is the name of the file? Should I take it off the sd and or put it on a computer for safe keeping?
2. Does "rom manger" work for the revolution? I asked me for phone model but didn't have the revo listed.
3. I installed Ti backup but already have the rom backed up. Is Ti backup used solely to backup apps?
4. The install instructions for revolt 1.5 say "make sure 4g is enabled," how do I do that?
5. The instructions do not say to wipe the cache. Is that no longer a required step?
6. Is there a "file manager" for accessing the sd card?
Too many ?'s, but thanks.
J.
In the same boat, sort of.
Was wondering if the sixaxis app for connecting a playstation controller to our phone works. was gonna root my phone this weekend and if this app works with our phone maybe ill stay up a little later tomorrow to see if i can get it working lol.
Thanks for any reply
ANdy
jyossarian said:
Thanks for the help so far. I have successfully downgraded and rooted.
I apologize in advance because I know all of these questions have been asked before but there are sooo many guides and youtube videos and forums. Some things might apply to the Revo and some might not.
Anyway...
1. I plan on installing revolt 1.5 but first think I should backup and save a copy of the Verizon Rom to be able to go back if all hell breaks loose or they update to GB. If I backup in clockworkmod, where does the backup go on the sd card? What is the name of the file? Should I take it off the sd and or put it on a computer for safe keeping?
2. Does "rom manger" work for the revolution? I asked me for phone model but didn't have the revo listed.
3. I installed Ti backup but already have the rom backed up. Is Ti backup used solely to backup apps?
4. The install instructions for revolt 1.5 say "make sure 4g is enabled," how do I do that?
5. The instructions do not say to wipe the cache. Is that no longer a required step?
6. Is there a "file manager" for accessing the sd card?
Too many ?'s, but thanks.
J.
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1. I'm pretty sure backups go to external/clockworkmod/backups
But you don't need to make backups for this since you can always flash the rooted stock ROM.
2.ROM manager does not work.
3.titanium backs up only apps and there data (I like mybackup pro more)
4. If you didn't change any settings 4g you'll be fine.
5. Always wipe cache and dalvik cache. May take time to boot up but its.normal .
6. Es file explorer or root explorer
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Rooting without wiping? OR how to back up app data

I've got a 6 month old OB which I want to root & install an ICS rom but one thing I have not been able to find out:
Can I root it without wiping it first? I've heard plenty about Titanium Backup but that needs root access first.
Alternatively, what is the best way to backup all the apps & settings ahead of time?
I did a search and couldn't find clear answers to this, sorry if it has been asked before.
If you have Rooted phone, My Backup Pro is the best app to backup and install including Data with apk files
If you are not rooted, it can only backup apk, not data
sekhar13515 said:
If you have Rooted phone, My Backup Pro is the best app to backup and install including Data with apk files
If you are not rooted, it can only backup apk, not data
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I don't have a rooted phone. I'm trying to ask if there is a way to back up the data without rooting, or back it up before rooting.
teddygo said:
I don't have a rooted phone. I'm trying to ask if there is a way to back up the data without rooting, or back it up before rooting.
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If you aren't rooted you can't backup the data.
No backups without root accs
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Ok, no backups without root access. Any way to attain root access without wiping everything?
This isn't a deal breaker, but it'd be nice to retain what I can.
Risk of getting bootloop or non usable play store, which apps do you want to backup so badly?
Astro file manager my backup 30 days trial no root access
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backing up
teddygo said:
Ok, no backups without root access. Any way to attain root access without wiping everything?
This isn't a deal breaker, but it'd be nice to retain what I can.
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Rooting a phone you don't have to wipe anything. After getting a root you'll be able to make a real backup. Then you can wipe and flash any rom. Also you can flash a fresh rom without root, so you can "revert" rooting.
Good programs to backup your data:
- CWM - making a nandroid backup - best method to backup all data on your phone
- Titanium backup - very functional, professional program
- Go Backup - to store contacts, smses, call-logs and installed programs
IF you are on 2.2 you don't need to wipe anything.
If you are on 2.3.4 you need to wipe everything.
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Rooting a phone you don't have to wipe anything. After getting a root you'll be able to make a real backup. Then you can wipe and flash any rom. Also you can flash a fresh rom without root, so you can "revert" rooting.
Good programs to backup your data:
- CWM - making a nandroid backup - best method to backup all data on your phone
- Titanium backup - very functional, professional program
- Go Backup - to store contacts, smses, call-logs and installed programs
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Can't use CWM if the phone hasn't been rooted and is on GB with the Current CWM injection method because it wipes all Phone on board memory.
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can i just hijack this a bit...
looking at rooting my optiumus black but basically it's my work phone which currently has a load of text messages/emails/contacts I could do with keeping, is there anyway to keep this on the phone??
android version is 2.2.2
the_r_sole said:
can i just hijack this a bit...
looking at rooting my optiumus black but basically it's my work phone which currently has a load of text messages/emails/contacts I could do with keeping, is there anyway to keep this on the phone??
android version is 2.2.2
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You can root 2.2.2 without losing anything. To be safe : Make backups of your contacts,hopefully your email should still be on the email server and if you really need those text messages then you can write them down. If it is really really important to keep the information rather not risk it.
Back To The Original Topic : If you want to just backup apps (not other stuff) then ES File Explorer can do that for you.

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