Rooting without wiping? OR how to back up app data - LG Optimus Black

I've got a 6 month old OB which I want to root & install an ICS rom but one thing I have not been able to find out:
Can I root it without wiping it first? I've heard plenty about Titanium Backup but that needs root access first.
Alternatively, what is the best way to backup all the apps & settings ahead of time?
I did a search and couldn't find clear answers to this, sorry if it has been asked before.

If you have Rooted phone, My Backup Pro is the best app to backup and install including Data with apk files
If you are not rooted, it can only backup apk, not data

sekhar13515 said:
If you have Rooted phone, My Backup Pro is the best app to backup and install including Data with apk files
If you are not rooted, it can only backup apk, not data
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I don't have a rooted phone. I'm trying to ask if there is a way to back up the data without rooting, or back it up before rooting.

teddygo said:
I don't have a rooted phone. I'm trying to ask if there is a way to back up the data without rooting, or back it up before rooting.
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If you aren't rooted you can't backup the data.

No backups without root accs
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Ok, no backups without root access. Any way to attain root access without wiping everything?
This isn't a deal breaker, but it'd be nice to retain what I can.

Risk of getting bootloop or non usable play store, which apps do you want to backup so badly?

Astro file manager my backup 30 days trial no root access
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backing up
teddygo said:
Ok, no backups without root access. Any way to attain root access without wiping everything?
This isn't a deal breaker, but it'd be nice to retain what I can.
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Rooting a phone you don't have to wipe anything. After getting a root you'll be able to make a real backup. Then you can wipe and flash any rom. Also you can flash a fresh rom without root, so you can "revert" rooting.
Good programs to backup your data:
- CWM - making a nandroid backup - best method to backup all data on your phone
- Titanium backup - very functional, professional program
- Go Backup - to store contacts, smses, call-logs and installed programs

IF you are on 2.2 you don't need to wipe anything.
If you are on 2.3.4 you need to wipe everything.
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jacor2 said:
Rooting a phone you don't have to wipe anything. After getting a root you'll be able to make a real backup. Then you can wipe and flash any rom. Also you can flash a fresh rom without root, so you can "revert" rooting.
Good programs to backup your data:
- CWM - making a nandroid backup - best method to backup all data on your phone
- Titanium backup - very functional, professional program
- Go Backup - to store contacts, smses, call-logs and installed programs
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Can't use CWM if the phone hasn't been rooted and is on GB with the Current CWM injection method because it wipes all Phone on board memory.
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can i just hijack this a bit...
looking at rooting my optiumus black but basically it's my work phone which currently has a load of text messages/emails/contacts I could do with keeping, is there anyway to keep this on the phone??
android version is 2.2.2

the_r_sole said:
can i just hijack this a bit...
looking at rooting my optiumus black but basically it's my work phone which currently has a load of text messages/emails/contacts I could do with keeping, is there anyway to keep this on the phone??
android version is 2.2.2
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You can root 2.2.2 without losing anything. To be safe : Make backups of your contacts,hopefully your email should still be on the email server and if you really need those text messages then you can write them down. If it is really really important to keep the information rather not risk it.
Back To The Original Topic : If you want to just backup apps (not other stuff) then ES File Explorer can do that for you.

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Backing up an app on an unrooted phone.

The application called "Sticky Memo" has been taken off the market and I still have it. The thing is I want to root my phone, and since it requires wiping I need a way to keep the application after I root.
Is there any possible way without already having root?
Maybe Titanium Backup?
Would Astro work in this case?
andythefan said:
Would Astro work in this case?
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Yes if its not a private app.
use titanium backup....best backup app on the market!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622873
BEST NON PHONE APP.
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martin0285 said:
use titanium backup....best backup app on the market!!
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Thanks! Thread can be closed
but Titanium backup needs root...
...doesn't it?
I just bought my first Android phone, and I want to root it, but before rooting you need to make a backup, of course.
I downloaded titanium backup and installed it, but it tells me it won't work because my phone is not rooted !
Backing up clearly comes first, so what can I use to do that, OR how can I use Titanium backup (which seems like the best backup app out there) on an unrooted phone?
Thanks
XavierDery said:
...doesn't it?
I just bought my first Android phone, and I want to root it, but before rooting you need to make a backup, of course.
I downloaded titanium backup and installed it, but it tells me it won't work because my phone is not rooted !
Backing up clearly comes first, so what can I use to do that, OR how can I use Titanium backup (which seems like the best backup app out there) on an unrooted phone?
Thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13090966&postcount=67

Root N1 Gingerbread without losing my data?

Hi guys, I know if I root the N1 I won't lose my data, but does this also apply if I have Gingerbread installed?
And secondly, if I root, then backup, then flash a new ROM, can I restore my data (app settings, SMS, bookmarks, home screens, etc.) into the *new* ROM?
you only have to lose data and wipe the first time when you root. after that you never have to worry about losing anything again as you just backup when you switch between ROMs. titanium backup is used by most of us. mybackup pro is another one.
Thanks but right now I am unrooted. Is there no way to root without losing my current data?
Gingerbreak and the various derivatives (apk, and I believe an updated Superoneclick) let you root without losing data, though there is always a chance that data loss could occur even with those methods...
Thanks. Could you forward me the link to the simplest, most reliable method, suitable even for noobs?
Look in the general section cuz I saw paul2000 posted a guy for newbs
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Paul's guide is pre-Gingerbread, and out of date. This is better, just make sure you follow the instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13090966&postcount=67
danger-rat said:
Paul's guide is pre-Gingerbread, and out of date. This is better, just make sure you follow the instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13090966&postcount=67
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Thanks - yes I hate all the out of date stuff on here that never gets updated. This is why people don't 'use search' - it can't be as trusted as asking the question again, up-to-date.
Your link did it - thanks!

[Q] Temp root?

Hi all
I am about to switch my phone with my GF's phone. I've made a backup of my data, but I still need to backup her data for the switch. I was thinking of rooting (Done that to my Galaxy Ace before), but the only option I could find was flashing a new kernel, and I'm afraid that I'd lose all of her data.
Is there a way that does not involve flasing a new rom or kernel, but still gets me a temp root on the S2? (I will flash after that temp root tho, but it's important to backup her data.)
Thanks for your time (and help)
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Flashing a rooted kernel will not wipe out your data.
It just changes the kernel and adds root.
What data are your trying to save?
Black Rose said:
Flashing a rooted kernel will not wipe out your data.
It just changes the kernel and adds root.
What data are your trying to save?
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Basicly, everything. From phone numbers to saved game data (and whats app logs etcetera)
I use Titanium Backup to save my apps and data.
I just export my contacts to my SD card.
Call Logs Backup & Restore for the call logs
SMS Backup & Restore for text messages
For the unrooted phone, buy Backup To Gmail from the market for 1.99. Will back up all SMS, mms, call logs. Contacts should be synced to gmail anyway. As for the apps, I don't know a good one that doesn't require root. The above poster is right though, a successful root shouldn't require you to wipe. Good luck!
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raineyland said:
For the unrooted phone, buy Backup To Gmail from the market for 1.99. Will back up all SMS, mms, call logs. Contacts should be synced to gmail anyway. As for the apps, I don't know a good one that doesn't require root. The above poster is right though, a successful root shouldn't require you to wipe. Good luck!
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Thanks for your help guys. Turns out that my gf didn't have the sII. She has the S plus which was easy to root and backup using titanium backup.
Thanks,
Screen.
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[Q] Flashed 'We want ICS' ....couldn't wait !!!

Hi guys,
I am tired of waiting for the official ICS update and went ahead and flashed the 'We want ICS' rom and it is GREEEEAT. I made a backup but just want to know if I can get all the apps I had before if I restore the backup or will it take me back to GB. I am on Android 4 now so do I restore or no? I did it using ROM manager
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Hi guys,
I am tired of waiting for the official ICS update and went ahead and flashed the 'We want ICS' rom and it is GREEEEAT. I made a backup but just want to know if I can get all the apps I had before if I restore the backup or will it take me back to GB. I am on Android 4 now so do I restore or no? I did it using ROM manager
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Coming from GB to ICS, it's probably best to download your apps again or install apps only if you have a Titanium Backup.
acme anvil said:
Coming from GB to ICS, it's probably best to download your apps again or install apps only if you have a Titanium Backup.
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Using Titanium Backup is not recommended...might cause problems in ROM and ud have to reflash. Install all apps again its the best way.
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FCArsenal said:
Hi guys,
I am tired of waiting for the official ICS update and went ahead and flashed the 'We want ICS' rom and it is GREEEEAT. I made a backup but just want to know if I can get all the apps I had before if I restore the backup or will it take me back to GB. I am on Android 4 now so do I restore or no? I did it using ROM manager
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It's probably a NAND backup you did. This backup contains images of all the partitions of your old ROM. So if you restore, it will restore GB as it was when you did the backup. To restore only your apps you should have used an app like Titanium Backup.
Edit : If you really want to restore you apps you can still restore GB from your Backup, install Titanium Backup, make a backup of your apps and flash again We Want ICS in which you will then be able to restore your apps (Edit 2 : you should use compro01's method, it's faster)
2 options
1. redownload your apps - Easiest way is once you have the play store functioning on the device, just go to https://play.google.com/apps, log in, and wail on the install buttons.
2. if you don't want to do that (e.g. excessive drain on transfer cap and no wifi available) or can't for some reason (e.g. app was removed from the store, but you still want it, like the tricorder (CBS are assholes)), open up the backup folder (/sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/[nameofbackup]. This is most easily accomplished on a computer rather than on the device) and open the data.[filesystem].tar file. All the apks for the installed apps are in the apps folder. system apps are in same folder in the system.[filesystem].tar file, but you're probably not interested in anything in there.
Just copy out the apks you're needing, and install away. You may need to turn on "install from unknown sources" under the development options.
Note that neither of these methods will preserve your settings from your apps nor any of their other data (saved games, passwords, etc.). if you have stuff you need for some reason, you'd need to go through the above mentioned 3rd option of backing up your current WWICS install, then restoring your previous ROM, backing up all your relevant apps with Ti or another app, restoring your backup of the WWICS ROM, and using Ti/whatever to restore the backed up apps, all whilst hoping that restoring apps from different bases doesn't break things too horribly.
I prefer titanium backup because my app data will also be backup'd
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zukri90 said:
I prefer titanium backup because my app data will also be backup'd
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What's the method you should use for titanium? As I redownloaded titanium on my rom and it wouldn't find the backed up data I backed up about 10mins previous
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vizzy said:
What's the method you should use for titanium? As I redownloaded titanium on my rom and it wouldn't find the backed up data I backed up about 10mins previous
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Check to see what filters are in use, if any. If you set a filter to show only uninstalled apps you should see your backups.
Ahh.... I'll have a look next time I flash a new rom
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You must be very carefull when using titanium backup and changing roms,since you are coming from GB to ICS thats a completly new and different version of OS and may have problems when restoring too many apps, I suggest that you restore backups one by one app, so if you get some Fc's you can see which app is to blame,and definitly do not restore any settings or system apps
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I use Titanium Backup
I use My Backup and it is great. I have found no problems restoring all my apps between different roms.
And if you need to you can either restore the app or app and data
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I installed Nike aura ics and then used titanium to backup my apps from a gingerbread rom I was using... Haven't had any fc till now
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Thanks guys!! I reinstalled all apps again from the play store but there should be a faster way of doing this. It was a pain but I had to do it. Its great now!!
I know bud. I use Mybackup as well but I forgot to use it while upgrading and thought there would be some other way of doing it

[Q] Stupid Question

I've rooted my phone and I want to get the new MaximusHD ROM (4.3, HTC Sense, Rooted)
How can I replace my ROM while preserving my data (WhatsApp messages, pictures, etc)?
I am sorry but I am coming from the world of Apple and iTunes did everything for me. Android is a totally new beast!
Use titanium Backup from playstore
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Philipp_94 said:
Use titanium Backup from playstore
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Thanks
I downloaded the software.
What do I do? There are so many options. I don't need to backup the apk because I can redownload it from the Play Store.
All i care about is my user data.
Can I flash my ROM without losing data?
wirelessrevolution said:
Thanks
I downloaded the software.
What do I do? There are so many options. I don't need to backup the apk because I can redownload it from the Play Store.
All i care about is my user data.
Can I flash my ROM without losing data?
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What do you mean by user data?
Pics music videos etc, basically anything in your SD card will be saved.
I think.
App data, you need to backup the whole app. That's how Ti backup works. You can't download the app form play store and apply your user data to it.
EDIT: just make a nandroid. Then backup whatever you need. If the restore fails, then you have something to fall back on.
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sauprankul said:
What do you mean by user data?
Pics music videos etc, basically anything in your SD card will be saved.
I think.
App data, you need to backup the whole app. That's how Ti backup works. You can't download the app form play store and apply your user data to it.
EDIT: just make a nandroid. Then backup whatever you need. If the restore fails, then you have something to fall back on.
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Thanks but I have no idea what a nandroid is or how to do it.
wirelessrevolution said:
Thanks but I have no idea what a nandroid is or how to do it.
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Go to TWRP (personal favorite) or CWM.
Then, back up EVERYTHING.
Except media. But I'm not sure that's actually an option lol.
Oh yeah no need to back up the cache or the recovery either.
I believe CWM doesn't let you choose, you just hit back up and it backs up what it needs to.
Note: you can not selectively restore from a nandroid very easily. It is meant to be sort of a time machine, so if something screws up, you just restore your phone back to how it was.
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Dirty vs Clean install
sauprankul said:
Go to TWRP (personal favorite) or CWM.
Then, back up EVERYTHING.
Except media. But I'm not sure that's actually an option lol.
Oh yeah no need to back up the cache or the recovery either.
I believe CWM doesn't let you choose, you just hit back up and it backs up what it needs to.
Note: you can not selectively restore from a nandroid very easily. It is meant to be sort of a time machine, so if something screws up, you just restore your phone back to how it was.
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Yeah, TWRP lets you back up all your info. You can pick and choose and it lets you back up the current rom, so if you have issues you can go back to it. Copy that folder to a computer, because what you want to do is a dirty flash and might run into problems. It's best to flash by wiping clean and then replacing or you run into problems with the rom with some of the data.
Just my opinion.
My advice would be to read a lot more about how nandroid backups work and about how backup apps like Titanium Backup work as well before trying anything.
That being said the above advice about doing a nandroid from recovery is a must, especially if you're new to the android world and aren't sure what you're doing. The nandroid is your fail-safe in case anything goes wrong. It will allow you to restore your phone back to exactly how it was when you did the backup.
As far as bringing the app data that you want into your newly flashed rom, this is what I do:
1. Have a rooted device
2. Download Titanium Backup (I bought the pro version, I think you need it to do batch backup/restore)
3. Batch backup all user apps (I also backup my call log and sms/mms messages)
4. Reboot device to recovery and perform a nandroid backup
5. Flash new rom
6. Wipe data/Factory reset
7. Reboot into new rom
8. After doing all the initial device setup (google account, etc.) install Titanium Backup and restore all missing apps NOTE: RESTORE ONLY THE APPS NOT THE DATA!
9. Now this is the part that I do that technically isn't recommended because restoring data can cause issues but it's the only way I've found to restore app data that otherwise can't be restored. Do a batch "restore all apps and data" but select "data only" and "deselect all" and go through and manually select only the apps you really need to restore the data (this can also be done manually through Titanium but I still use the batch function). Also I restore the call log and sms/mms at this step.
Hopefully this helps. Best advice I can give you though is before you do anything, make sure you understand all of the steps completely. I've lost everything too many times because I didn't know what I was doing.
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As far as bringing the app data that you want into your newly flashed rom, this is what I do:
6. Wipe data/Factory reset
8. After doing all the initial device setup (google account, etc.) install Titanium Backup and restore all missing apps NOTE: RESTORE ONLY THE APPS NOT THE DATA!
9. Now this is the part that I do that technically isn't recommended because restoring data can cause issues but it's the only way I've found to restore app data that otherwise can't be restored. Do a batch "restore all apps and data" but select "data only" and "deselect all" and go through and manually select only the apps you really need to restore the data (this can also be done manually through Titanium but I still use the batch function). Also I restore the call log and sms/mms at this step.
Hopefully this helps. Best advice I can give you though is before you do anything, make sure you understand all of the steps completely. I've lost everything too many times because I didn't know what I was doing.
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Question:
Why can't he restore apps and data together? I've anyways done that, and it's seemed to have worked for me. Maybe I just didn't notice any lost data?
Also. Restoring with the free version is a pita because you have to give it permission for every app individually.
Just saying.
And you do not need to wipe your media, but I recommend that you back it up.
Also: WOAH WOAH WOAH. Did you just tell the OP to flash a ROM, THEN wipe?
I'm pretty darn sure you should not do that.
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sauprankul said:
Question:
Why can't he restore apps and data together? I've anyways done that, and it's seemed to have worked for me. Maybe I just didn't notice any lost data?
Also. Restoring with the free version is a pita because you have to give it permission for every app individually.
Just saying.
And you do not need to wipe your media, but I recommend that you back it up.
Also: WOAH WOAH WOAH. Did you just tell the OP to flash a ROM, THEN wipe?
I'm pretty darn sure you should not do that.
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The reason I say not to restore data for every app is that not every app needs it's data restored to get everything back (i.e. Google Hangouts, Facebook, Twitter, etc.) and I've always been warned that restoring data can cause issues. So my reasoning is the less I restore the better.
And I know using the free version of Titanium Backup is a PITA, that is why I said I use the paid version.
I never said to wipe media (I assume you mean the virtual sdcard) I said to wipe data/factory reset (the name of the option in CWM)
And there is nothing wrong with wiping after a flash. The wipe gets rid of user apps/data, anything installed with the rom is fine. If I'm mistaken, I apologize. However, I have never had an issue wiping after a flash.
If the OP doesn't want to follow my advice that's fine, I was simply describing what I've been doing on various devices for the last couple of years.

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