Database Develop

[Think tank] Map menu long press to keyboard (not search)

Since the vibrant doesn't have a secondary input like most android devices, it's even more vital that we have unfettered access to the keyboard and its soft arrow keys. Unfortunately long pressing the menu button in some applications (notably the browser) brings up SEARCH rather than the keyboard by itself. That means no arrow keys for text selection or link highlighting.
This has been discussed previously in general at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=776792
How difficult would it be to remap the long press of the menu key to bring up the keyboard by itself?

After researching it some on my own, it looks like I need to come up with a way to call showSoftInput() from one of the softkeys. It'd be ideal if I could get that to happen on menu long press, but if that's too far buried in proprietary configuration I'd settle for replacing the google voice search app mapped to the Search button long press.
Anyone have any tips on mapping system functions to a hardware key normally used for app launching? The lack of any keyboard in the browser is seriously inhibiting my ability to use this phone.

Dxtop pro does this, and long press back is tasks
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

fit333 said:
Dxtop pro does this, and long press back is tasks
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yeah, buth then you have to use dxtop. *non fan of dxtop*

fit333 said:
Dxtop pro does this, and long press back is tasks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
dxtop takes over the long press of buttons only in the home screen context, and it doesn't use any of them to launch the keyboard. Plus there's no way to configure any of it so it's not really the same at all.
What I'm looking for is to alter one of the long press actions in a system-wide way to launch the soft keyboard.

cbisquit said:
After researching it some on my own, it looks like I need to come up with a way to call showSoftInput() from one of the softkeys. It'd be ideal if I could get that to happen on menu long press, but if that's too far buried in proprietary configuration I'd settle for replacing the google voice search app mapped to the Search button long press.
Anyone have any tips on mapping system functions to a hardware key normally used for app launching? The lack of any keyboard in the browser is seriously inhibiting my ability to use this phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you tried emailing Anderweb? ADW launcher intercepts the home button. You might be able to do something similar. It might only work on the home screen though, as his app is running there. For a system wide thing you might need to mod the underlying OS files, framework maybe? I'm not sure where that stuff launches. You could try asking one of the Cyanogen devs, they might have found it. They add stuff to the power button long press menu at least.

Certain apps (Visual Task Switcher and Itching Thumb) remap the search and home buttons to open themselves. I imagine this same idea could be used for the menu button, but I've never seen it.
I don't always complain, but when I do, I #BlameWes

some success...
Well I got a little app to work at opening the keyboard on long press of the SEARCH key. I don't want to override the home function, which is what ADW for instance does. The only other button that has an available intent as far as I can tell is search. This is my first java anything, so I wouldn't expect much out of it (it may not even work on anyone's phone but mine) but maybe someone with better android chops can use it as a proof-of-concept for what I was thinking. Install it and when you long press the search key you can choose "Search for Keyboard!"
One pretty major caveat... the swype soft cursor doesn't act anything like I'd wanted when I was envisioning this. There's no "execute" button that works like a click, so while you can use the soft arrows to select links it's not gonna do you much good. Also there's no way to effectively use "select text" in the browser. Concept 2, if I ever get around to it, would probably be more like a replacement touchpad area below the current application window.

i would like to see an app to remap long press menu on my i9000, anyone has success? thx

Another reason to ditch Samsung firmware and use AOSP-based ROMs, like CyanogenMod or MIUI.
FYI, nearly every "ROM" made for Galaxy S phones are Samsung firmware. They're not built from source like ROMs for other decent Android phones, they are just original Samsung builds being modified like nuts. And they use the same Samsung framework (though usually customized for themes and removing of annoyances like battery-full popup), and usually still include most of Samsung's stupid fixes that make their Galaxy S system software the most different in structure compared to any other Android system.
By using AOSP firmware like CyanogenMod and MIUI, these problems (like menu-button keyboard binding getting screwed up by Samsung) don't exist, because they were never present in official Android release. When problems do come up for AOSP, they get fixed quick because the source code is actually available.
Summarized process of development:
Samsung-based ROMs: What's broken or runs like ****? Try to fix it. Hack hack hack, hope it works, if it fails try again. Submit to XDA
CyanogenMod (in general): If there is a problem, try to fix it. Write code, build, test. Make sure it works before putting it in "stable" branch. After that think of brand new useful feature to implement, code it, bug test a lot, request it to be used in official releases or just make your own CyanogenMod-based ROM with your own enhancements, like BiffMod for the HTC Dream.
Btw, the reason why Samsung put this keybind is because the original international Galaxy S doesn't have a dedicated search key, so they set the search function up with the menu button. Our problem is that Samsung was a lazyass and forgot to change back that binding to the original for the Vibrant, which does have a dedicated search button and doesn't need the menu binding to search.

But aosp roms have other problems like poor 3d performance and no gps/compass. If the issues get worked out, I suspect many devs will be switching to aosp builds.

[Q] [Request] android fanboys don't read this

Okay to start off I love my nexus one and would not buy an iphone so all the android fanboys don't jump on my case. But there are some software aspects of the iphone that i like. For instance I like the way messages show up on the lockscreen on the iphone and the iphones multi-tasking. I was wondering if it would be possible to implement the iphone style of multi-tasking into the nexus one. Basically the trackball can still be used for selection and all that good stuff if you even do that, but if you double tap it at a selectable speed it would open recent apps. Or even go further to make the scroll bar that the iphone has. Give me some response on this, tell me what you guys think.

what is this...i dont even?

what is your question? I want to somehow have a setting in the nexus one where if you double tap the trackball it will open up recent apps and possibly implement an iphone like scroll bar at the bottom.

Sorry for asking but.... Are you sure you know how to use your Nexus ?

yes i know how to hold the home button... lol

jakeneal22 said:
yes i know how to hold the home button... lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
and? why would you want to double tap your trackball? you know iphone do that because they only have one button right?

also it would create huge issues for selection with trackball...
Let's say while wanting to double tap the trackball for multitasking, you had something selected, the first click should theoretically open that app/link directly...if we implement such feature, people that actually use the trackball for opening stuff will have delays, which sucks massively.
All in all, this idea is awful. You can make the number of recent apps higher in Cyanogen, do that and you won't need the scrolling bar of the iPhone...

If you want to double tap something, download QuickDesk PRO and set it to open on double tap of home key. It has a 'QuickPanel' feature that shows recent apps and its a fantastic piece of sofware.
For the messages on lockscreen.. download WidgetLocker and place Pure Messenger Widget on the lockscreen..

chompSMS does this lockscreen "thing", and even allows you to reply to them without unlocking, if you so wish, and relocks after.
For double-tap home, there's literally loads of multitasker apps that can do that, even offering "coverflow" style switching between apps...

Itching thumb is another good task switcher. nice looking graphics and gesture support.

Use HandcentSMS to replicate that better than Iphone experience

just get an iphone.
then you can try that, and maybe you'll go back to the nexus one, maybe not.

moomooshrooms said:
just get an iphone.
then you can try that, and maybe you'll go back to the nexus one, maybe not.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nice first post
OP, the reason double tap is a feature on iPhones is because of the lack of buttons. Steve only likes to push is customer's buttons, not his phone's
(horrible, I know lol)

ccunningham83 said:
Itching thumb is another good task switcher. nice looking graphics and gesture support.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, The video below looks great.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...amazing-free-task-switcher-you-want-this-now/
http://www.appbrain.com/app/itching-thumb-(task-manager)/com.bw.flipit
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-bw-flipit-jDFBF.aspx
Unfortunately it does not seem to work with CM61/ADW, only see 1-3 apps. Also the 'styles' preference is disabled.

wow lots of activity just got out philosophy class so its alil hard to comprehend all of it but, I am gonna try the lockscreen thing and the double tap the home button sounds really good. The thing that i got annoyed with holding the home button is that sometimes it will accidentally go to the home screen. LOL I don't want the iphone... my mom, step-dad, and roommate all have them lol. Android is where its at. With all these customizations you guys have told me about I am satisfied.

if you hold "home" button the last used apps would appear and that also means those apps would open faster which leads you again multi tasking. ok, I admit that's not a user-friendly way to access the apps but theyre going to fix alotof stuff like that in gingerbread.

There's also a program called Smart Taskbar. I didn't like it, but perhaps someone else will..
http://www.appbrain.com/app/smart-taskbar-(sidebar)/com.smart.taskbar

have you thought about running miui for rom?

I do. I am on rods 11.9
Sent from my Nexus One using Tapatalk

Multitasking for note 1 on jelly bean

Hi, I want to ask you all about the multitasking from jelly bean. Will it stop if you tap your home button to open new browser and other stuff making it as background application?
If for ICS, it will pause the youtube after you switched to other application and this is not called multitasking according to my knowledge.
Any feedback on this issue?
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda app-developers app

if u use multitasking n u still press home button that's mean u're out frOm multiwindow n definitely the application will be paused at he background.
u just need to drag out frOm multiwindow when doing multitasking without pausing youtube when doIng multitasking.
maybe u can find out more on floating multiwindow！
i believe someone wll give u the right answer！

multiwindow of JB allows both apps to run.. it divides the screen into 2 windows

Real multitasking?
nokiamodeln91 said:
multiwindow of JB allows both apps to run.. it divides the screen into 2 windows
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wonder why Samsung calls it mutiiview? It only makes two windows. How about calling it dual-window or dual-view. In general, I do not think that using multiview or long pressing the home button to cycle around recently used apps is real multitasking. While long pressing the home key does allows you to return to another active process, there is always the possibility that the OS task manger will kill something you put in background. This is most annoying, especially if your were editing a file and you now lose changes because the android task manger does its thing. (So as a rule of thumb I always save changes before putting an editor, like Polaris, in background.) The sad thing is that I think that android can do real multitasking (by using a "service" for example) but it appears to be up to the developer to incorporate this feature in their app. For example, it you press the home button when using terminal emulator to put it in back ground, you can always pick up where you left off. I've never seen this process killed. Ideally, I would like to be the one choosing which app to kill. Hopefully this is the case in the future.
In regards to the you tube question, when doing a long press, music continues to play, but it is paused once you make a selection from the tray of recently used apps.
For those of you that have modified your N7000 to have tablet ui via xperiacles work, do you find that when reducing a window (such that it goes to a task bar that you can bring it back up from), that the app is still actively running in background. For example, does a music video still play on if you do this?

I think it will defend the purpose of it if i switched application and it stopped the previous one. So I have to wait for stock jb to fully utilize my note.
Hmm with 2 cores it should had something better than this right?
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda app-developers app

Swipe to resize window not available after oneUI upgrade?

​Hey,
Not sure if anyone else has noticed but after the OneUI update I cant swipe down from top left to resize windows.
This was a really useful productivity feature when multitasking (especially at work).
you used to be able to enable "popup view" then you could swipe down from top left to "pop-out" windows but now the only way to do this is a long-winded long press on multiview window then long press again on the top of app then select pop-up view... its much less effective than just swiping down (also you need to follow this same process for each window you want to have floating...
Does anyone know how to get the older much better way of working again? - or has it gone for good?! :crying:
Cheers

UKGav said:
​Hey,
Not sure if anyone else has noticed but after the OneUI update I cant swipe down from top left to resize windows.
This was a really useful productivity feature when multitasking (especially at work).
you used to be able to enable "popup view" then you could swipe down from top left to "pop-out" windows but now the only way to do this is a long-winded long press on multiview window then long press again on the top of app then select pop-up view... its much less effective than just swiping down (also you need to follow this same process for each window you want to have floating...
Does anyone know how to get the older much better way of working again? - or has it gone for good?! :crying:
Cheers
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It was already discussed a few times. It's removed, all the good multiwindow features that we had in nougat/oreo in galaxy phones are gone. The oneUI solution is close to the google stock one. No swipe from corner, no menu between two split screen apps, no fast way to split screen via holding recents or swipe/hold (but it fires google assistant for example), no hold card in recents for fast split or popout. Everything was removed and this is really bad for my productivity. Feature that was marketed, especially with the note 9 that is phone for productivity and multitasking, feature that samsung were praised for how much better is vs the other android makers solution - removed. Well, good job.

Wow, I had not realised all. Of that is now gone... Sadness!!

high_voltage said:
It was already discussed a few times. It's removed, all the good multiwindow features that we had in nougat/oreo in galaxy phones are gone. The oneUI solution is close to the google stock one. No swipe from corner, no menu between two split screen apps, no fast way to split screen via holding recents or swipe/hold (but it fires google assistant for example), no hold card in recents for fast split or popout. Everything was removed and this is really bad for my productivity. Feature that was marketed, especially with the note 9 that is phone for productivity and multitasking, feature that samsung were praised for how much better is vs the other android makers solution - removed. Well, good job.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wrong, if you mean split screen mode it still exists. On OneUi you gota open recent apps and then hold down on app icon to get a menu and from there you got split screen mode. Also popup window exists still aswell. Which can be found in same menu as split screen. Swipe from corner can be enabled again in settings on One UI

Jake.S said:
Wrong, if you mean split screen mode it still exists. On OneUi you gota open recent apps and then hold down on app icon to get a menu and from there you got split screen mode. Also popup window exists still aswell. Which can be found in same menu as split screen. Swipe from corner can be enabled again in settings on One UI
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Read my post again, I never said those features are removed. We(I) were talking about the shortcuts that were fast and convenient. Simple two examples:
I am watching youtube, decides I want to also msg on viber. Before I can only hold recents - open viber and start typing without the video interruption. Right now you will go to recents, video WILL interrupt, you will press the icon on the card, select split screen, then viber, then you will press play and wait for the video to start. Second scenario is when you decide you want to switch two split screen apps place - there is no mid menu anymore, so you need to close/open them. pop-out is also a lot slower to do and with more steps. Generally it's 3-4 times slower to do the same now vs oreo and the funny thing is - they easily could had avoided that - popout from corner option in the advanced menu, swipe recents and hold for instant split screen (right now it's like that for google assistant - swipe and hold, never mistrigger it so it's good) and return of the mid menu between two split apps. Simple, but they removed it all. They even removed in the newer second base that was released after the first one a leftover for hold recents when navigation bar is on for instant split screen.

I am still expecting this option to be reenabled by samsung. It was seriously useful as hell and now i feel my phone is half broken

bluecry said:
I am still expecting this option to be reenabled by samsung. It was seriously useful as hell and now i feel my phone is half broken
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you tried Good Lock app with MultiStar module?
It brings back most multi window features.

BluePhnx said:
Have you tried Good Lock app with MultiStar module?
It brings back most multi window features.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Looks like it might solve a bit. However i cannot access it from my country through samsung store. Do you have any suggestion where I can get it safely online? Thanks.

bluecry said:
Looks like it might solve a bit. However i cannot access it from my country through samsung store. Do you have any suggestion where I can get it safely online? Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try Nice lock from xda:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/themes/nicelock-module-download-links-module-t3923844
It's Good Lock for the places that can't get it from Galaxy store.
Everything you need is on first post, the launcher and modules...
Edit.
It doesn't bring back the hold down recent key for multiwindow though. You now have to have an active app running, tap on recent key, select and hold down the second app you want and slide it to top or bottom of screen to activate split screen.

(Request) Modify "Clear all" in the overview

Apologies if it already has been mentionned but I didn't find anything about it.
Before my Pixel 5 I used to have a Samsung and I was really surprised how the pixel deals with the "clear all" function on the overview screen.
I like the way apps are displayed side by side on the pixel, but having to swipe aaaaaall the way back to the first opened app to clear all is not really user friendly. On Samsung phone, the Clear all button is set under the apps preview, so it's always on screen. Really convenient when you open the overview only to use that function.
So here comes my question! Is such a functionnaly existing or possible on my Pixel ?

On stock ROM, the "clear all" button only appears on the very left of the "recents". You have to swipe the screen --> and it will appear on the left. I don't think you can change that unless you install a custom ROM that has a setting to put that button there.
You might be doing the "clear all" out of habit due to the old issue that apps in the background would eat away your battery and cause the phone to get hot. This is no longer true because Android now has very good ram and app management for this to be an issue any more.

Thanks for the clarification, you have a good guess, I'm doing it out of habits from ancien times so I'll just have to change that

AnyNameYouWish said:
Thanks for the clarification, you have a good guess, I'm doing it out of habits from ancien times so I'll just have to change that
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah same, me too. It's now become an OCD where my Recents must be empty or it feels icky. I'm also stuck in the ancient times. Still using the 3 button navigation and I have to spam the back button to close an app, or else it just doesn't feel right haha.