Edit: Giving the HP Touchpad to my mother. I need to remove Moboot, CM9, CWM, and all the linux partitions. I need to restore it back to stock, as she will just use WebOS.
Any good links regarding returning the TP back to stock?
The HP side seems good to go.
As for CM9, just go into Clockworkmod and wipe data and cache. Then re-flash the ROM and gapps. Erase anything else off of the SD card and it's brand new on the Android side.
Thanks. I really did enjoy the WebOS. It is slower than Android, but had some really nice touches.
Change of plan. Going to give the TP to moms. I need to return it to stock WebOS 3.0.5 only and delete Android. I found an old video, but that was for CM7. Any recent links to deleting CM9 and restoring the TP back to stock?
You should only have to run ACMEUninstaller then do a WebOS Doctor to get everything back to factory settings
ACMEUninstaller removes all the Android partitions so if you dont do it before the Doctor that space will be unusable.
championboxes said:
You should only have to run ACMEUninstaller then do a WebOS Doctor to get everything back to factory settings
ACMEUninstaller removes all the Android partitions so if you dont do it before the Doctor that space will be unusable.
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Thanks. I used the ACMEUninstaller then did a secure full erase of the WebOS. Is there any reason I should use WebOS doctor?
WebOS Doctor sets everything back to factory settings however now that I think about it you might not need to do that im pretty sure there is an option somewhere in WebOS to do a full wipe
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Does anyone have any advice? My system was very stable, then I upgraded my uboot and flashed the 3.1 beta. The beta performed terribly, so I flashed back to the build in the title, and now all these force closes. I did install Pure Messenger and Pulse in the meantime and put up some widgets.
I'm planning to try out Phiremod on eMMC and see how that works out, but if there's a fix for this issue, I'd like to try it out. I have CWM on eMMC, but I'm thinking if I clear caches in there, it will be the caches in my stock OS install on eMMC, correct? Can I point it to the SD install?
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Does anyone have any advice? My system was very stable, then I upgraded my uboot and flashed the 3.1 beta. The beta performed terribly, so I flashed back to the build in the title, and now all these force closes. I did install Pure Messenger and Pulse in the meantime and put up some widgets.
I'm planning to try out Phiremod on eMMC and see how that works out, but if there's a fix for this issue, I'd like to try it out. I have CWM on eMMC, but I'm thinking if I clear caches in there, it will be the caches in my stock OS install on eMMC, correct? Can I point it to the SD install?
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Boot into Clockwork. Under Mounts / Storage wipe cache, then go into "advanced" and wipe dalvik cache (will cause your device to lock & need hard reboot). Then boot your machine as normal. Load time will be a little on the long side because your Nook will be rebuilding cache...perfectly normal. This has to be done when going back to the stables from the Beta CM7.
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Boot into Clockwork. Under Mounts / Storage wipe cache, then go into "advanced" and wipe dalvik cache (will cause your device to lock & need hard reboot). Then boot your machine as normal. Load time will be a little on the long side because your Nook will be rebuilding cache...perfectly normal. This has to be done when going back to the stables from the Beta CM7.
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But again, with CWM on eMMC and CM7 on SD, won't that wipe the caches for the stock install on eMMC rather than for CM7?
That method did not work, btw, I'm guessing because it wasn't wiping the caches for the ROM on the card. Any way to do this for a verygreen SD install?
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That method did not work, btw, I'm guessing because it wasn't wiping the caches for the ROM on the card. Any way to do this for a verygreen SD install?
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In terminal emulator, su then rm /data/dalvik-cache/*
Just go to settings, applications, manage application, in the all tab, find "media storage" if I remembered correctly, then go in and clear data, reboot then you should be fine.
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In terminal emulator, su then rm /data/dalvik-cache/*
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Hope I'm not counting my chickens before they hatch, but it looks like that did it--thank you!
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Just go to settings, applications, manage application, in the all tab, find "media storage" if I remembered correctly, then go in and clear data, reboot then you should be fine.
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So far, this did the trick for me! Thank you!
I want to keep dual boot functionality yet wipe my WebOS account information.
Will performing a secure full erase from within WebOS interfere with the ICS installation? or am I better off running ACMEUninstaller, performing the WebOS wipe, then re-installing ICS?
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I want to keep dual boot functionality yet wipe my WebOS account information.
Will performing a secure full erase from within WebOS interfere with the ICS installation? or am I better off running ACMEUninstaller, performing the WebOS wipe, then re-installing ICS?
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I had to do a secure full erase, then doctor my TP. Android was still there, but I had to reinstall moboot with Acmeinstaller. After that, I was able to access Android with no problems.
I just flashed jcsullins schizoid 4.2.2 (version 2.11, the latest) and everything went fine, I made a backup, I was on 4.1.2 jc sullins cm. I wiped the cache and the dalvik cache and everything works great except for the sd card, it does not recognize it. The icons for the apps that were on the sd card now say app is not installed, should I wipe the system data and the caches?
Reflash schizoid?
at this point I am thinking of flashing another rom using the pc since the tp will not let me d/l anything, I had default location set to sd card, do not know how to change it.
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I just flashed jcsullins schizoid 4.2.2 (version 2.11, the latest) and everything went fine, I made a backup, I was on 4.1.2 jc sullins cm. I wiped the cache and the dalvik cache and everything works great except for the sd card, it does not recognize it. The icons for the apps that were on the sd card now say app is not installed, should I wipe the system data and the caches?
Reflash schizoid?
at this point I am thinking of flashing another rom using the pc since the tp will not let me d/l anything, I had default location set to sd card, do not know how to change it.
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Go here:
[ROM GUIDE] CM10.1 Unofficial Builds on the HP TouchPad Android 4.2.2 Edited 8/8/13
BTW, jcsullins probably deserves credit for Schizoid more than I do...
shumash said:
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[ROM GUIDE] CM10.1 Unofficial Builds on the HP TouchPad Android 4.2.2 Edited 8/8/13
That is where i got the rom (schizoid 2.11) that I flashed and ended up with no access to the sd card. I performed a restore on my nandroid backup and so have access again. Was going to try the evervolv rom or the 0808 test build by jcsullins, what do you think?
Also should i only wipe the cache/dalvik cache or do a wipe of the system also, want to be able to restore backup if I do not care for the newer rom and not sure if I will be able to if I do a system wipe
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bluekiwi said:
shumash said:
Go here:
[ROM GUIDE] CM10.1 Unofficial Builds on the HP TouchPad Android 4.2.2 Edited 8/8/13
That is where i got the rom (schizoid 2.11) that I flashed and ended up with no access to the sd card. I performed a restore on my nandroid backup and so have access again. Was going to try the evervolv rom or the 0808 test build by jcsullins, what do you think?
Also should i only wipe the cache/dalvik cache or do a wipe of the system also, want to be able to restore backup if I do not care for the newer rom and not sure if I will be able to if I do a system wipe
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No advice on the ROM, pick whatever makes you happy, but I've had no one else report issues with the sdcard on Schizoid. Doing a system wipe will not prevent you from restoring a nandroid backup.
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I have flashed a bunch of different ROMs lately. I always wipe cache, dalvik and do a factory reset but maybe it may no longer be enough. Currently, my phone is rooted with Cocore and CWM. I am thinking about going to CM11. Last time I tried that, I noticed some stuff during setup was overlooked because it already seemed to be there. So I think some bits and pieces are left in the phone. Therefore, I want to "scrub" it before trying another ROM (thinking CM11 this time). I know the CM kernel comes with it.
questions:
1) Can I just mount and reformat system, data, cache and preload to clear everything out before flashing a new ROM?
2) Will the kernel be protected (in this case is CoCore) after reformating or should I worry about it?
3) When I flash the original stock 4.1.2 from Odin, does it completely reformat everything when it loads onto the system?
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I have flashed a bunch of different ROMs lately. I always wipe cache, dalvik and do a factory reset but maybe it may no longer be enough. Currently, my phone is rooted with Cocore and CWM. I am thinking about going to CM11. Last time I tried that, I noticed some stuff during setup was overlooked because it already seemed to be there. So I think some bits and pieces are left in the phone. Therefore, I want to "scrub" it before trying another ROM (thinking CM11 this time). I know the CM kernel comes with it.
questions:
1) Can I just mount and reformat system, data, cache and preload to clear everything out before flashing a new ROM?
2) Will the kernel be protected (in this case is CoCore) after reformating or should I worry about it?
3) When I flash the original stock 4.1.2 from Odin, does it completely reformat everything when it loads onto the system?
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Some information are stored on internal SD memory. Maybe it was there. Try to delete it. Backup SD to PC, format it - do factory reset and see if it is happening again.
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Some information are stored on internal SD memory. Maybe it was there. Try to delete it. Backup SD to PC, format it - do factory reset and see if it is happening again.
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If I backup the internal SD card to the PC and then restore after a reformat, won't the offending bits come back again?
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If I backup the internal SD card to the PC and then restore after a reformat, won't the offending bits come back again?
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I did not tell you to restore it. Keep it on PC, in case you need some of data from there. Maybe you erase some picture that you need or something like that. And not to blame me later. :fingers-crossed:
Question: I want to wipe everything from my HD+ and start completely fresh. What is safe to wipe and how do I do it in TWPR or CWM? A "factory reset" isn't good enough. It leaves old data around. But I've read too many stories about bricking a device by formatting /data using CWM.
Background: I've been running CM 10.2.1 for a few weeks now. Given what Jon Lee posted about Google and security, I thought I'd try a clean install of CM 10.2.1 without installing gapps, just to see what that's like. (And what services don't run.)
So I did the usual "factory reset" from TWRP and reinstalled CM 10.2.1. To my surprise, when I booted, the latest version of Google Play was still showing on the launcher!
I had used Link2SD to integrate the latest version of Google Play with the OEM system app. So apparently, that this was not wiped. And of course, internal media data is not wiped (not by TWRP, anyway) in a factory reset. But I thought /system was.
The TWRP FAQ has a page about wiping. It says
Depending on your device and its configuration, you may have options for wiping internal storage, external storage, sd-ext, android_secure, and/or an option for formatting data. There's almost no reason that you would ever need to use these items. These options are there for convenience. For instance, if you're getting ready to sell your device, then it's a good idea to wipe everything on the device so that the new owner doesn't get your private data.
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But they don't tell you which to select.
TWRP makes it confusing by offering to 1) wipe data, 2) internal storage, 3) SDcard or 4) SDcard data in Advanced Wipe. Which is it for wiping your media stuff?
From what I've read, "internal storage" should be the same as "SDcard." So why both? And how is "SDcard data" distinct from those two?
To make matters worse, in the Nook I thought there was an additional element of confusion because the Nook doesn't call the internal SDcard memory what everyone else calls it.
So let's say I am selling my HD+. Would I select all of the above and still be able to install a ROM clean?
Or would I brick?
I know that on a desk top computer if you want to start bare metal, you format the hard drive, wiping everything, and install onto that. But judging from what Succulent wrote in his blog about recovering from an EMMC crash, you can't start totally clean with Android. Apparently, Android needs some preexisting files on the "drive" in order to install. (Like the devconf folder, which contains your MAC and your serial number.)
[Am I understanding him correctly? He was talking about recovering from a tablet wrecked by the EMMC brick bug. Perhaps no /data partition at all, as he offers a script to rebuild/expand that partition?]
I have read stories of people bricking their tablets by formatting /data from CWM. I don't understand why that should brick it. Why couldn't you boot into recovery? How can the /data partition affect the /recovery partition?
So - has anybody done a complete wipe on their Nook HD+? Please explain, for those of us who are obsessive compulsive, exactly how you do it.
To wipe your device with CWM go to mounts and storage and format /system, /cache and 'data and datamedia'. A normal factory reset only wipes /cache and the portion of /data that does not hold your media files. It does not wipe /system. Usually the ROM install does that, but the install script has a feature that saves gapps if you are installing the same version of the ROM (eg, CM11 over CM11). So to get rid of everything, including media files and gapps, do what I said in the first sentence. Of course after formatting /system you must put a ROM back on it for it to boot.
And it is not /data formatting that is the brick problem, it is formatting the /bootdata partition. They are different things. Don't format that.
And succulent was talking about /rom partition which is different yet that needs to be left alone. That is where the devconf folder is. It contains things you need to keep.
If you want to understand the partition structure of the HD/HD+ go to my HD/HD+ Tips thread linked in my signature and read item 16.
And please read my PM to you about removing those assert removal instructions from my dummies thread.
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leapinlar said:
To wipe your device with CWM go to mounts and storage and format /system, /cache and 'data and datamedia'. A normal factory reset only wipes /cache and the portion of /data that does not hold your media files. It does not wipe /system. Usually the ROM install does that, but the install script has a feature that saves gapps if you are installing the same version of the ROM (eg, CM11 over CM11). So to get rid of everything, including media files and gapps, do what I said in the first sentence. Of course after formatting /system you must put a ROM back on it for it to boot.
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Thanks for the thorough answer. And explanations. I always find it easier to remember something when I understand the reason for it. So I didn't know before that the install scripts keep gapps.(But that's what I was deducing.)
I know to stay away from /rom and /boot. Hopefully, TWRP would not let one format those in their numerous choices for Advanced Wipe.
From what you've written before in one of your other threads, I know that you're not a fan of TWRP. So I still don't know what the similar commands are in TWRP for a total clean. But for now I can delete /system in TWRP and do the reinstall without gapps. When I'm ready for a total wipe, I'll revert to CWM.
Can we trade /factory for /swap?
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If you want to understand the partition structure of the HD/HD+ go to my HD/HD+ Tips thread linked in my signature and read item 16.
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Read it. (And made an image of my factory partition. And then moved it to my extSDcard for safer keeping.)
So, the Nook HD+ partition structure is a bit different from the stock Android partition stuff I had found on the web.
So, for those of us running a custom ROM, I presume the factory image doesn't do us much good anymore. Will the HD+ automagically restore after 8 failed boots?
If not (or even if it will), is there a way to take that 448MB in the /factory image partition and use them for, say, a /swap partition instead? I think an xda developer is doing something like this for the Galaxy Tab 2, where he's using some memory that Samsung uses for animations and uses them for ZRam instead. Since I've backed up the factory image, and since I already have your factory 2.0.2 ROM, I really don't need the image any more. Seems like wasted space.
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Read it. (And made an image of my factory partition. And then moved it to my extSDcard for safer keeping.)
So, the Nook HD+ partition structure is a bit different from the stock Android partition stuff I had found on the web.
So, for those of us running a custom ROM, I presume the factory image doesn't do us much good anymore. Will the HD+ automagically restore after 8 failed boots?
If not (or even if it will), is there a way to take that 448MB in the /factory image partition and use them for, say, a /swap partition instead? I think an xda developer is doing something like this for the Galaxy Tab 2, where he's using some memory that Samsung uses for animations and uses them for ZRam instead. Since I've backed up the factory image, and since I already have your factory 2.0.2 ROM, I really don't need the image any more. Seems like wasted space.
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You can play with the partitions all you want. Just don't ask me to help you fix it. You don't seem to heed my warnings anyway.
But other users be warned that factory partition has vital backup information there (it has more than just the factory zip there) and if you lose it, your device is as good as a paperweight. That is why I recommended all users back that partition up. Not for the factory zip, but for the backup files there. The device has other safety backup routines other than just restoring the stock ROM. An example is, I told you and succulent told you that devconf has vital files all ROMs need in /rom. Well, /factory has a backup of /rom there and if the device discovers /rom is messed up, it tries to repair itself. No /factory and no repair. Paperweight!
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You can play with the partitions all you want. Just don't ask me to help you fix it. You don't seem to heed my warnings anyway.
But other users be warned that factory partition has vital backup information there (it has more than just the factory zip there) and if you lose it, your device is as good as a paperweight. That is why I recommended all users back that partition up. Not for the factory zip, but for the backup files there. The device has other safety backup routines other than just restoring the stock ROM. An example is, I told you and succulent told you that devconf has vital files all ROMs need in /rom. Well, /factory has a backup of /rom there and if the device discovers /rom is messed up, it tries to repair itself. No /factory and no repair. Paperweight!
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Thanks for the quick response.
I am sorry that I seem to have gotten on your bad side. I did what you asked and moved my previous comment out of your thread. And I warned everyone that you don't think it's a good procedure.
And I did heed your warning. I made a backup of the factory partition and even moved the copy to my ext SD card for safer keeping. Especially since we were talking about wiping the sdcard. (Unless you're trying to say that storing the /factory img on the ext SD card is a bad idea because I won't be able to get it back to the internal SDcard if/when I need it.)
As for the devconf files, they're in the /rom partition. I don't understand how using the /factory partition for a /swap is going to ruin the /rom partition.
From what you're saying, the HD+ still has a "safety routine" built in, even when running custom recovery and a custom ROM? Does that mean that its safety routine is hard coded somewhere? Or part of the /rom code itself? How does the HD+ know to look in /factory when its running a non-factory OS? Does CM tell it to do that?
You're the expert. I'm just guessing here. If the /factory partition were used as a /swap, and if the system turned into a paperweight because it needed the /factory image later someday, then couldn't one go into recovery and copy the /factory partition back over, per your instructions? As a minimum, couldn't one use succulent's emmc recovery procedure to get back to factory status?
I'd be willing to trade that off for more performance.
How does one know when the HD+ goes into this safety routine? Does it tell you? Or is it transparent to the user? It would be interesting to know how often that happens. Does the safety routine then repair the /rom partition once booted if it detects a problem in /rom?
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Thanks for the quick response.
I am sorry that I seem to have gotten on your bad side. I did what you asked and moved my previous comment out of your thread. And I warned everyone that you don't think it's a good procedure.
And I did heed your warning. I made a backup of the factory partition and even moved the copy to my ext SD card for safer keeping. Especially since we were talking about wiping the sdcard. (Unless you're trying to say that storing the /factory img on the ext SD card is a bad idea because I won't be able to get it back to the internal SDcard if/when I need it.)
As for the devconf files, they're in the /rom partition. I don't understand how using the /factory partition for a /swap is going to ruin the /rom partition.
From what you're saying, the HD+ still has a "safety routine" built in, even when running custom recovery and a custom ROM? Does that mean that its safety routine is hard coded somewhere? Or part of the /rom code itself? How does the HD+ know to look in /factory when its running a non-factory OS? Does CM tell it to do that?
You're the expert. I'm just guessing here. If the /factory partition were used as a /swap, and if the system turned into a paperweight because it needed the /factory image later someday, then couldn't one go into recovery and copy the /factory partition back over, per your instructions? As a minimum, couldn't one use succulent's emmc recovery procedure to get back to factory status?
I'd be willing to trade that off for more performance.
How does one know when the HD+ goes into this safety routine? Does it tell you? Or is it transparent to the user? It would be interesting to know how often that happens. Does the safety routine then repair the /rom partition once booted if it detects a problem in /rom?
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If you want to know more how the automatic repairs work, go to my Nook Color Tips thread linked in my signature and read item A12. The partition numbers are different but the repair process works exactly the same way on the HD/HD+, including the need for stock recovery to be installed. There are two ways to get your device automatically repaired if you have CM and CWM/TWRP recovery installed on internal memory. One is to flash stock recovery back per my item 5 in my HD/HD+ CWM thread, and the second is to flash the plain stock zip from item 6 there. That puts stock recovery back. Then it can repair /rom if need be.
And there is no real drawback of removing the factory.zip file from /factory partition since it is basically the same as a plain stock zip I have published. But the other files there are vital and should not be touched.
You got on my bad side by publishing that assert removal procedure on the help forum after I asked you to remove it from my thread. I don't want to make it easy for any user to do that as I consider it dangerous for noobs to do. See my response to your posting of that procedure.
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You got on my bad side by publishing that assert removal procedure on the help forum after I asked you to remove it from my thread. I don't want to make it easy for any user to do that as I consider it dangerous for noobs to do.
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Thanks for letting me know. Later last night, I saw a post of yours on the Nook Color (I think it was) where you thought that anyone who would remove the updater-script safety check was an "idiot."
Okay, so I'm an idiot. But I am free to be an idiot and start my own thread in the Help forum, right? Just as you are free to respond there as you did. That's what makes the forum go 'round.
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Thanks for letting me know. Later last night, I saw a post of yours on the Nook Color (I think it was) where you thought that anyone who would remove the updater-script safety check was an "idiot."
Okay, so I'm an idiot. But it's my right to be an idiot and my right to start my own thread in the Help forum, right? Just as it's your right to respond there as you did. That's what makes the forum go 'round.
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As I recall, I did not say the person that removed the assert was an idiot, it was the person who recommended it that I said was an idiot. The user was a noob and knew no better. He was trying to flash a Nook Tablet ROM to his Nook Color and the assert kept failing (doing what it was designed to do). The idiot was the one that told him just to remove the assert. He did that and bricked his Nook Color.
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