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What is a boot loader and kernel

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esteban836 said:
Please don't call me a noob because i have a life and im not into phones
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Use the search button. It's not that hard to find out.
If you aren't into phones, then why are you here?

Youre gonna have to do what we all had to do in the beginning ... READ. Read the forum stickies before you go posting asking questions that you could very easily find. Please for the love of god go back and read the stickies before you screw up your phone.

Read the sticky in general section, 'definitive guide to bricking'.
All your answers are there.
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esteban836 said:
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NOOB!
10 char

Yeah, this is totally in the wrong section, I call noob.

esteban836 said:
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So you think noobies are people who don't have a life and are into phones?
Btw, you would have got much better responses if instead you had said you are a noob and need help. There is nothing wrong or -ve about being a noob.
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Well that has got to be the most ignorant NOOB post ever, sorry I had to.
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esteban836 said:
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Subtly insulting us...maybe not the best strategy for getting an answer to your question. Oh, and wrong section. FAIL.

esteban836 said:
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This is a great way to start off your career in XDA Noob!

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+a+bootloader
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+a+kernel
Gee, look... Answers....
Also, OP, since you're, you know, "not a noob" post in the Q&A section next time you have a question.

miztaken1312 said:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+a+bootloader
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+a+kernel
Gee, look... Answers....
Also, OP, since you're, you know, "not a noob" post in the Q&A section next time you have a question.
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Now why would anybody post a question in the Q&A forum?

erbsmokah said:
Now why would anybody post a question in the Q&A forum?
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You're right. We expect too much of people v_v

miztaken1312 said:
You're right. We expect too much of people v_v
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There are people who claim XDA users are too hard on noobs who are "just asking questions", but back when I knew NOTHING about all of this I don't ever recall getting flamed when asking a question. Why? Because I know how to read and follow simple instructions. I blame the schools.

miztaken1312 said:
You're right. We expect too much of people v_v
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Meh. I think Esteban is a troll. Two threads started and no follow up.
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How the hell did you not watch the video before registering? I'm a noon but you are a NOOB!
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Thanks for the spam, troll.
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Just gonna drop this here and keep moving

Bootloaders and kernels are the first thing you delete after you root.
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tylerdurdin said:
Well that has got to be the most ignorant NOOB post ever, sorry I had to.
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LOL
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S-off discussion: Can we look to Rezound for help on root?

Hey guys, it looks like the HTC Rezound is close to getting S-Off by Evil. If you didn't know, the Rezound has had a locked bootloader all this time just like us. Can we look to how they got root to help with our own efforts. The method of getting S-Off between these two phones can't be that different, can it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1375598
EDIT: Apparently links to his site are prohibited. But just google "s-off think tank" to get to Evil's site.

They look close resembling. Worth a shot and try.
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XAviierG said:
They look close resembling. Worth a shot and try.
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I'm pretty sure the internals are very very alike too. The only difference I've read is the screen size. They both came out around the same time, so I'd think they'd be locked in a very similar fashion.

slapshot30 said:
I'm pretty sure the internals are very very alike too. The only difference I've read is the screen size. They both came out around the same time, so I'd think they'd be locked in a very similar fashion.
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If they are very close then you can take their way and use to the Vivid bootloader
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XAviierG said:
If they are very close then you can take their way and use to the Vivid bootloader
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I hope so... That seems to be a pretty good option right now. I posted this same thing in the "think tank" thread in the dev section, so hopefully a skilled dev can take it into consideration.

Just got a tweet back from the Evil man himself and he said "we can try"
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XAviierG said:
Just got a tweet back from the Evil man himself and he said "we can try"
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So would we use his exact method? Or would we have to tweak a few little things? I know for many Samsung phones, you can use the universal SuperOneClick root. Would it work kind of like that?

Probably tweak it a bit
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XAviierG said:
Probably tweak it a bit
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Yeah, that's probably what we'll need to do. Hopefully, he unlocks it soon.
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He already decoded the tokens. Just now need to decode what the .bin files changes.
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Longcat14 said:
Yeah, that's probably what we'll need to do. Hopefully, he unlocks it soon.
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Apparently he is very very close. The link said days, if not hours away. Would he be the one to tweak it for us or would one of us have to? I'm not even sure if we could post our version on here though, XDA is pretty ant-anything that involves him. Maybe he could post our version on his site.

slapshot30 said:
Apparently he is very very close. The link said days, if not hours away. Would he be the one to tweak it for us or would one of us have to? I'm not even sure if we could post our version on here though, XDA is pretty ant-anything that involves him. Maybe he could post our version on his site.
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Probably one of us. Or we can ask for help from him.
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For the record, evil is not wanting it released here without his permission as well. You can link his twitter, but you can't link his site, due to him charging for a root exploit for the shift.
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XAviierG said:
Probably one of us. Or we can ask for help from him.
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Alright sounds good. I'm sure we have people that can pick up on that.
pstevep said:
For the record, evil is not wanting it released here without his permission as well. You can link his twitter, but you can't link his site, due to him charging for a root exploit for the shift.
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Oh, I didn't know that. Now I understand why though. Thanks for the insight, we'll try to refrain from linking his site.

slapshot30 said:
Alright sounds good. I'm sure we have people that can pick up on that.
Oh, I didn't know that. Now I understand why though. Thanks for the insight, we'll try to refrain from linking his site.
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Thanks. Other forums have not been so cool with it.
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Better to ask that in correct fourm
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maddiedad2009 said:
Better to ask that in correct fourm
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Changed the title, looks good to me now . The general section usually gets a little more action than the Q and A section. My intention was for any possible devs to help us out with this. My apologies for trying to help us all find root lol.

Now we play the waiting game
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pstevep said:
For the record, evil is not wanting it released here without his permission as well. You can link his twitter, but you can't link his site, due to him charging for a root exploit for the shift.
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Look, I don't like the guy and I think his attitude is terrible and he deserved the ban he got. But can we refrain from saying stuff that isn't true? It does nothing for guiding people to an eventual unlocked rezound (or vivid in this case). Open is supposed to be was android is about... not squelching possible advancements based off a personal problem.
C'mon now you're a moderator. Please conduct yourself accordingly. You could have left it at, "You can link his twitter, but you can't link his site."

Gall0wz said:
Look, I don't like the guy and I think his attitude is terrible and he deserved the ban he got. But can we refrain from saying stuff that isn't true? It does nothing for guiding people to an eventual unlocked rezound. Open is supposed to be was android is about... not squelching possible advancements based off a personal problem.
C'mon now you're a moderator. Please conduct yourself accordingly. You could have left it at. "You can link his twitter, but you can't link his site."
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As I appreciate your enthusiasm for moderating me. The statement was made intentionally. As I have had this thread topic in multiple forums and the dev in question prompts flaming from discussion as to why we can't link his site. Most people on here either love or hate the guy, I am cool with him. My statement is made because that's the reasoning behind not linking his site. I can post it when I did or we could wait until it was asked, I chose the pre emptive approach to avoid someone literally saying something negative about the dev and xda. If you have an issue with my statement please address a senior mod or admin.
I'm not a douche bag here, I treat you all with respect and do what I can to help. Thanks.
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[Q] cyangenmod 9 for the HTC vivid/hoilday

Would there be any devs that could help get this on the device
Also there's a large bounty I believe for s-off
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come at me bro said:
Would there be any devs that could help get this on the device
Also there's a large bounty I believe for s-off
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Check the tutorial in
Chef Central>android
Contains all you need. Kinda dumb question
Greets!
I'm not a fake.
I prefer people to reply to me and give feedback instead of thanking me!
But thanking me does show if you apreciate my works.

I actually cooked up ics with sense 3.5.1
The kernels hell on this
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mDroidd said:
Check the tutorial in
Chef Central>android
Contains all you need. Kinda dumb question
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The only dumb question is the one not asked

Never mind.............

This wasent posted in this section, its not for the vivid community per say but more for the dev and chef community
Thanks for moving mods
/sarcasm
Please disregard thread
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Gonna try to become a developer . :)

Hi everyone ive been on the HTC Vivid 4G Andriod Development and i seen that its dead....XD and im currently working on getting permission to continue on a rom and if i learn even more about C++ im gonna help with the Sence 4 ril :fingers-crossed:

24ky said:
Hi everyone ive been on the HTC Vivid 4G Andriod Development and i seen that its dead....XD and im currently working on getting permission to continue on a rom and if i learn even more about C++ im gonna help with the Sence 4 ril :fingers-crossed:
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Hey man, good stuff! I've been a developer for years, but just getting into Android dev as of late. Good luck with the Sense 4 stuff.

same here ^_^ working on my first rom.. already did some framework-res mods and stuff xo but yeahh it is dead around here we need more devs .!

I was thinking about this too. Where does one learn? As in, what are some good books to buy on the subject? Thanks in advance.
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lostcontinent said:
I was thinking about this too. Where does one learn? As in, what are some good books to buy on the subject? Thanks in advance.
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Depends entirely on what your experience is. There's a big difference between learning to cook having never cooked a thing in your life, and learning to cook French cuisine if you're already a master sushi chef.

I'll play it safe and say I've never cooked a thing in my life, but my dad is also a system engineer and could help if I needed it. I'd rather learn without his help.
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lostcontinent said:
I'll play it safe and say I've never cooked a thing in my life, but my dad is also a system engineer and could help if I needed it. I'd rather learn without his help.
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Look at my signature...the bottome link...aka chef central/android...that area of xda is dedicated for tutorials and helping people learn how to develop (signatures are only visable on a desktob browser)
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Thanks! By the way, I've been following your JB 4.1.1 thread. I was going to offer a new vivid that I got. Now I'm stuck with two. Haha. Thanks for all your hard work.
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lostcontinent said:
Thanks! By the way, I've been following your JB 4.1.1 thread. I was going to offer a new vivid that I got. Now I'm stuck with two. Haha. Thanks for all your hard work.
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That would help alot if you could get one to h8rift
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I can give him my old one. It's already s-off and rooted. He might want a different battery though.
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lostcontinent said:
I can give him my old one. It's already s-off and rooted. He might want a different battery though.
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What's wrong with the battery? I'm sure hell take it either way...battery's aren't too expensive (at least for a cheap one)...as long as it works its perfect for deving
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It still works, but its battered. No pun intended. I got a winmar powerpack which chargers it and my nexus 7 super fast. Have him pm me and ill send it to him. What's with the guy saying that cm 4.1 is basically dead?
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lostcontinent said:
It still works, but its battered. No pun intended. I got a winmar powerpack which chargers it and my nexus 7 super fast. Have him pm me and ill send it to him. What's with the guy saying that cm 4.1 is basically dead?
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I'll pm him
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lostcontinent said:
It still works, but its battered. No pun intended. I got a winmar powerpack which chargers it and my nexus 7 super fast. Have him pm me and ill send it to him. What's with the guy saying that cm 4.1 is basically dead?
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Thanks...as for that guy....idk, lost hope?
ZeRo2o9 said:
I'll pm him
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Thanks
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mg2195 said:
Thanks...as for that guy....idk, lost hope?
Thanks
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I PM'ed him earlier this morning, hope to hear back from later .

mg2195 said:
Look at my signature...the bottome link...aka chef central/android...that area of xda is dedicated for tutorials and helping people learn how to develop (signatures are only visable on a desktob browser)
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hey mk
i looked at that android kitchen and i was wandering is there anywhere else i can learn a lil more from i kinda got confused with the whole thing
i mean how do i start from scratch and make my very own rom from scratch i dont want anyone saying i stole there rom etc any info i could read on would be great id love to play round with it and learn something new i just recently got into this rooting stuff and i picked it up pretty quick i think i have htc vivid unlocked and s-off formerly from att now on straight talk and i love custom roms i hate stock and if u dont mind me asking what is the best adn most stable custom rom for the htc vivid.

joeyhat said:
hey mk
i looked at that android kitchen and i was wandering is there anywhere else i can learn a lil more from i kinda got confused with the whole thing
i mean how do i start from scratch and make my very own rom from scratch i dont want anyone saying i stole there rom etc any info i could read on would be great id love to play round with it and learn something new i just recently got into this rooting stuff and i picked it up pretty quick i think i have htc vivid unlocked and s-off formerly from att now on straight talk and i love custom roms i hate stock and if u dont mind me asking what is the best adn most stable custom rom for the htc vivid.
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Start with an RUU. Run the RUU on your PC. Stop at the first screen after it's done loading, don't proceed, but don't close the window. Start/Run and type %TEMP% and hit enter (this will take you to your user temp folder). Sort the folders by date and open the newest. Here you should find Rom.zip. Use this as your base ROM in the kitchen. Root it, deodex it (or not), zipalign it, etc - and you end up with a flashable ROM from an RUU

Recommended ROMs

Hi everyone,
Apologises if this is in the wrong section but my question is about TIMe so I think it is.
I received my awesome HTC One today and I was wondering if anyone can recommend any decent ROMs for this device, I've had a look at some threads but I'm not exactly sure what makes a good ROM.
Thanks in advance!
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Joe.Tolchard said:
Hi everyone,
Apologises if this is in the wrong section but my question is about TIMe so I think it is.
I received my awesome HTC One today and I was wondering if anyone can recommend any decent ROMs for this device, I've had a look at some threads but I'm not exactly sure what makes a good ROM.
Thanks in advance!
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Wrong section to ask for my friend, anyways try ARHD 9.3, it's more like stock stylish rom, running freaking awesome.

andyt315 said:
Wrong section to ask for my friend, anyways try ARHD 9.3, it's more like stock stylish rom, running freaking awesome.
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I had a feeling it would be haha, any idea what section to post in for asking these things?
Sounds good I'll give it a look, thanks!
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Big no no.
Could we get a mod to remove this please.
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Joe.Tolchard said:
I had a feeling it would be haha, any idea what section to post in for asking these things?
Sounds good I'll give it a look, thanks!
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HTC One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting
there you go, btw mod can move this thread to appropriate section as well. :laugh:

Just pick the roms with the most pages in the thread.
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jhonsok said:
Just pick the roms with the most pages in the thread.
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If everyone did that, how would any of the lesser known devs become known?
Yes, popular threads are generally a good place to start but we should always try others ROMs aswell just incase others are more suited to our style.

Hello Joe.Tolchard,
We usually close these types of threads because they just turn into everybody posting the ROM they happen to currently be on. The only way to go about this is to read the threads and find you a good guide and jump right in!
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