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HTC has dropped 4 widgets on the market. Have a look here: http://www.androlib.com/android.developer.htc-corporation-FtE.aspx
They look really nice.
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baggus said:
HTC has dropped 4 widgets on the market. Have a look here: http://www.androlib.com/android.developer.htc-corporation-FtE.aspx
They look really nice.
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HTC should release a home application that runs Sense UI. I think it's doable, and if they did they could charge like 20 bucks, and not really have to go from firmware to firmware extremes.
i am not really sure whether i like what i see that HTC is posting on the market. all the widgets they publish are only for HTC Magic and Droid Eris... meanwhile sending C&D's to developers who have been porting HTC widgets to other devices (like HTC Dream/G1)...
to me this looks like they want to push sales of their Magic & Droid Eris models, and make people switch from their old G1's...
don't like it
Hi guys,
I have updated to stock sense 3.0 on IS OTA yesterday, but immediately I found that the look/feeling on our IS is quite different from which on Sensation (in the bad way).
I know 3.0 was originally targeting QHD display not WVGA, and the screen ratio of Sensation is different from which of IS. But, as an official UI product, IMO, you either do it well, or don't do it at all.
1) the notification UI, I could easily notice that there are three sections: top bar displaying network operator's name; middle layer showing 8 recent apps; bottom the biggest notification area. The problem is that these 3 sections look soooo separated (split by a thin white/grey line), you can see the top bar has gradient colour variation from grey to black, the middle layer has black background with grey dots, while the notification area is just white. They are just so not consistent and the white/grey line in between them makes the feeling even stronger!!
I don't think I have the same feeling in sense 2.1 or in 3.0 on Sensation.
2) if you open the app drawer or personalize panel, apart from the inconsistent feeling described above, you will find there are a thin white/grey line on each left and right side. what the reason did they put these two lines here? it feels like (take app drawer as example) the black area displaying the 16 apps was poorly PhotoShopped on top of something and HTC were rushed pushing out the OTA without having a proper designer to make the 3.0 on WVGA look as close as possible to which on Sensation...
Again, on Sensation or stock sense 3.5 on Rhyme, you only feel comfortable looking at those UIs.
3) when you pull down the notification panel, on the bottom of UI, the black bar with 8 dots on left and right side and one single dot in the middle. if you look at the left side of this bar, you will see a thin white/grey line while on the right you won't! If HTC deliberately designed those white/grey lines on other UIs to compromise the screen ratio difference between IS and Sensation, why didn't they keep both side the same?
OK, above are just three main problems I found, of course, the font size is not ideal but, well, we had over sized font on 2.1 in the beginning...
Oh, by the way, can someone confirm on your official OTA 3.0, you have similar thing as I described above? Just in case my update was somehow, broken... (Silly question cos broken=unsuccessful update. but this time I am really disappointed in the 3.0 on IS)
Hope we will have a next update from HTC soon to make the UI look better otherwise I may consider root and go customizing...
H_H
yes, i have the official unrooted update. Everything you described is correct.
You can see that sense is a layer over android instead of build in. It becomes even more clear if you change the skin to blue, it becomes really inconsistent when you see the blue or when you see stock android colors.
What bothers me most is that the background doesn't move anymore when sliding through homescreens.
I thought I was the only one who hated this poor Sense 3.0 update. I'm running ARHD 2.1.0 apart the last issue you described everything is the same here. Sense is badly scaled I'm really upset by that.
Thanks god I'm still soff so flashing Sense 3.5 Roms is all I want for now.
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HTC upgraded your 9 months old phone to their newest ui for free, and you complain about tiny graphical changes?
To me the important stuff is the lock screen and the 3d carousel, and the fact that 3.0 runs smoothly. I am happy with it to be honest.
It does run smooth but not stable. Updated yesterday and had +5 forced closed, the last one 2 mins ago.
dialer forced closed 2 times (can reproduce the error)
contacts forced closed 3 times (can reproduce the error)
Messages failed to link the phone numbers to the contacts 2 times stating only numbers at sms instead of contact name (only reboot solves this).
The favorites widget reloads at random, offcourse only when you want to use it, than you have to wait a bit.
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HTC upgraded your 9 months old phone to their newest ui for free, and you complain about tiny graphical changes?
To me the important stuff is the lock screen and the 3d carousel, and the fact that 3.0 runs smoothly. I am happy with it to be honest.
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I think its right to complain because virtuous unity properly scaled and resized the qHD sensation ROM for several WVGA devices including the IS a long time back.
I have no problems with the ui, sense is nice and smooth.
The only thing that bothers me is the presence of the good old damn dialer issue sucking the battery.
Why?
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It does run smooth but not stable. Updated yesterday and had +5 forced closed, the last one 2 mins ago.
dialer forced closed 2 times (can reproduce the error)
contacts forced closed 3 times (can reproduce the error)
Messages failed to link the phone numbers to the contacts 2 times stating only numbers at sms instead of contact name (only reboot solves this).
The favorites widget reloads at random, offcourse only when you want to use it, than you have to wait a bit.
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That sucks, I don't have any of those problems myself though.
I experienced HTCs upgrade path for the original Desire and think they have done a much better job on the Incredible S.
I agree.. Not very well scaled graphics.. And too big font.
For my taste the 2.1 with "ardesia" skin has been one of the best interface ever.
In addition I hate to put that tiny green phone into the circle to reply a call.
Just asked to customer service how to come back to the 2.3.3 waiting the next (I hope) upgrade.
Unfortunately no "official" solution for that.
Why dont you go for ARHD? It's exactly same as sensation. xD
Where can I download the official rooted of this Rom?
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Where can I download the official rooted of this Rom?
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I know of 2 people (myself included) who have attempted to produce a rooted version of the official 2.3.5/Sense 3.0 RUU/ROM but have not been successful when flashed to phones using the older HBOOT versions. The ROM will install, but will not boot past the HTC screen and you have to pull the battery.
It appears that the ROM may now be checking the HBOOT version and may not run on older HBOOT versions.
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Where can I download the official rooted of this Rom?
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Take a look at Android Revolution HD thread on development forum.
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It's themeing! Honestly I like the holo look of ics. I also like the textured look of sense. And it seems while sense 4 is just as intrusive as previous versions, they redid the graphics and tweaked in ics features to blend quite well with the holo elements in tact. However this isn't the case with 3.6. 3.6 really is just a tweaked 3.5 designed to work with ics. Problem is there are 2 themes present here. A lot of menus your seeing holo elements and but you still have textured borders of old sense everywhere in the ui. The result is a ui with a loss of identity. You can install custom skins that help but they still leave a lot of textured sense borders that can't be removed as the skins only go so deep.
I will say overall I like sense and buying an HTC phone I didn't expect AOSP. I think if they couldn't give us 4 than 3.6 should of at least been designed better to blend in with holo elements. And one thing I don't get about HTC is they always remove the overscroll effect. I'm going to root my phone soon and first order or business will be fixing the themeing. I dunno if ill put a custom Rom on yet just want more theming control to start. Imo I don't want a pure senseless Rom as I do like sense
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Are you going to make a theme?
I dunno, it's one thing to root and tweak with the graphics, it's another to make a cwm theme. I'm not a developer... Yet
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Nice wording man, I like the "yet" part... It's definitely an interesting community! Ever since I joined, I've installed Ubuntu on my Core i7 Dell laptop along with Android 4.0.1 on VirtualBox, I really hope to get involved in the dev community myself in the future.
Yeah I've been pressed for time but I've been wanting to learn how to develop for my HTC Flyer tablet and my Vivid. With the Flyer its creating a better stock launcher that interest me as with it being on honeycomb and support being cut off from htc, there aren't a whole lot of choices. For this phone its cleaning up the stock rom and allowing ics and Sense 3.6 to coexist in perfect harmony. No promises on anything yet
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Cor-master said:
Yeah I've been pressed for time but I've been wanting to learn how to develop for my HTC Flyer tablet and my Vivid. With the Flyer its creating a better stock launcher that interest me as with it being on honeycomb and support being cut off from htc, there aren't a whole lot of choices. For this phone its cleaning up the stock rom and allowing ics and Sense 3.6 to coexist in perfect harmony. No promises on anything yet
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I don't consider my self a dev either...yet
But I do have some experience with the development on the Samsung infuse (which you can tell by my Sig)
I've been trying to mess with the stock rom for a while now with no luck...I just can't seem to get any apktool to work with stock ics of this device, and after a little research it seems sense 3.6 is the problem, but I have yet to find a solution
I've asked a few times for help on decompiling for the vivid but have gotten no response...I'm not trying to discourage you all i wanna get across is that if you have any success...please share the knowledge with me
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Yeah htc makes someone nice devices but they aren't developer devices for sure. I'll let you know once I get involved in it what I can do might be why most flash the sense removed roms as its all or none.
Yeah overall I like sense 3.6 just hate the theme clashing. Good example is hitting the search button. All of a sudden your not using sense 3.6 anymore, your now using aosp android! I think I remember reading Google required a certain percentage of holo elements for market access, and I think htc kept that in mind in redesigning sense from the ground up with the one series. But when it came time to upgrade what they had they just basically ported 3.5 over and added a few ics features into the launcher. HTC claims that 4.0 is too different from 3.5 and earlier and previous users need familiarity but Imo if you've played with a one x its all pretty familiar. 3.6 overall was a bad call
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My one major gripe with Sense is the lack of changing things. I'd like to be able to (without using LauncherPro) tell it "I want 5 columns, and 6 rows of icons, on top of the 5 at the bottom. (so a total of 7 rows of icons, 5 columns)"
It WORKS well, just see some photo's I've posted in recent days.
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My one major gripe with Sense is the lack of changing things. I'd like to be able to (without using LauncherPro) tell it "I want 5 columns, and 6 rows of icons, on top of the 5 at the bottom. (so a total of 7 rows of icons, 5 columns)"
It WORKS well, just see some photo's I've posted in recent days.
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I hear ya, but thats all stock launchers including the google one. Sense 3.6 has some of the best customization for stock I've seen, but it still pales in comparison to say ADW EX, Go Launcher, or Apex.
alright...for the longest time ive been trying to use apktool with the "att stock ics for chefs or whatever" never had luck...today i decided to try apktool with an old download of 0.9 holics rom, to my surprise apktool works with it-i was able to install framework, decompile, recompile...it all worked!
so im wondering if maybe the stock ics wasnt properly deodexed, or maybe with holics rom something special was done? when i get the time im gonna try contacting bananacakes and see if maybe he can help me set up a stock base, or possibly use a stock base he may have laying around...ive tried making my own stock rom in the past from the RUU but got the same errors as the att stock rom for chefs...
Hi there!
I was looking at the new sense 5.0 and I think that it's a shame that HTC has removed a lot of widget from it and even the 3d slide effect ( which basically has been copied from all the others competitors: samsung, LG, Sony etc ). Now you have the 2d slinding effect of sense 2.0 which is a shame in my opinion. I think that sense 5.0 need those things:
- widget from sense 4.0
- 3d sliding effect
- mobile wallpaper that slide itself when the user slide through the home pages.
Do you think that a custom rom could restore those things?? I think that it's about to hacking the rosie.
1) Umh, widget will be resized and rebased on new structure of sense.
Sense 4+ and sense 5 are very different.
2) I don't think is nice an 3D effect on sense 5 and it is very tough to add in sense 5
3) Maybe with a smali hack is possible
you have to find a Dev that can have a look into it and other users like it.
Personally i don't like #1 and #2 post
Guich said:
1) Umh, widget will be resized and rebased on new structure of sense.
Sense 4+ and sense 5 are very different.
2) I don't think is nice an 3D effect on sense 5 and it is very tough to add in sense 5
3) Maybe with a smali hack is possible
you have to find a Dev that can have a look into it and other users like it.
Personally i don't like #1 and #2 post
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Well personal taste are personal taste but HTC has basically removed half of its widget on sense 5.0 and this has no reason to be because sense 4+ is very fast on my One S and the One is much more powerful than my phone, so they could leave the widgets as they was. They have even removed colored meteo widget, there only is the black and white one which I think it good just inside blinkfeed.
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light_n_roses said:
Well personal taste are personal taste but HTC has basically removed half of its widget on sense 5.0 and this has no reason to be because sense 4+ is very fast on my One S and the One is much more powerful than my phone, so they could leave the widgets as they was. They have even removed colored meteo widget, there only is the black and white one which I think it good just inside blinkfeed.
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But the 70% of sense 4+ widget didn't used.
And i had a One X...
Personally i think sense 5 is better then sense 4+.
For animation, menù, new style of clock and blinkfeed
this is not true as it's true that when a user decide which widget need to use he doesn't change them anymore but every user choose his combination of widget so the more there are the more a user can choose. So I'm really disappointed that HTC has removed 3d sliding on home, mobile wallpaper and a lot of widgets
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this is not true as it's true that when a user decide which widget need to use he doesn't change them anymore but every user choose his combination of widget so the more there are the more a user can choose. So I'm really disappointed that HTC has removed 3d sliding on home, mobile wallpaper and a lot of widgets
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When htc One was presented htc said that the 80% of htc users didn't use the 70% of the widget.
So, the deleted that and they added BlinkFeed because people want know what is going in the world or country
They removed 3D animation and the wallpaper scrolling because is fast and fluid...
Personally I like sense 5.
It's simple and clean and better of sense 4+
I do not agree, I use 5 full pages widget and surely the combination that I use isn't used from many others, every user has his own combination. Also the sense 4+ in super fluid on my htc one S and it has a dual core processor, so the HTC ONE which has a powerfull quad core would have no problem at all in having 3d sliding.
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I do not agree, I use 5 full pages widget and surely the combination that I use isn't used from many others, every user has his own combination. Also the sense 4+ in super fluid on my htc one S and it has a dual core processor, so the HTC ONE which has a powerfull quad core would have no problem at all in having 3d sliding.
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Is an HTC choise, not mine, and I agree with HTC.
Sure, anyone have different use of widget, but a lot of widget (for htc) were not used
It's not just a problem of processor, but, imho, isn't the best to see...
Opinions are like assholes. Everyone's got one
How come no one actually answer the question instead?
Yes I think it could be done but if it will happen I have no idea since I don't know what widgets are missing (haven't got a One here atm).
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I haven't a one either, I was asking since mine One s could get sense 5.0 as well. The missing widget should be the meteo 3d version and many others.
Let me start off by saying I seriously love this phone but seriously hate what HTC did to the Sense UI. Has anyone considered trying to port Sense 4+ to our phones from the Droid DNA?
It would be the best possibility of a port if one were to exist at all.
Just food for thought. I think it would be really cool to have all those widgets back and the DNA has similar hardware and the same screen resolution.
I think no...
He have sense 5, and for me, is better then sense 4+.
Yes, we lost some widget, is right, but all essential widget are here.
But a port can be possible...