Which of the Android upgrades is the most significant milestone, in ur opinion??
1.0 to 1.5
1.5 to 1.6
1.6 to 2.1
2.1 to 2.2
2.2 to 2.3
2.3 to 4.0
Personally I think that 2.1 to 2.2 is more significant, huge speed increase and supports for many other things such as Flash, what do u think??
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I'd have to say 2.3 to 4.0. Android has really "grown up" during that period and it finally shows an actual red line for the future of Android.
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Yes ur right, but i still think that 2.1 to 2.2 is a huge step in the development history, even greater than 2.3 to 4.0 as 2.2 featured something that iPhone cannot match, and it is the first time for that
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Which of the Android upgrades is the most significant milestone, in ur opinion??
1.0 to 1.5
1.5 to 1.6
1.6 to 2.1
2.1 to 2.2
2.2 to 2.3
2.3 to 4.0
Personally I think that 2.1 to 2.2 is more significant, huge speed increase and supports for many other things such as Flash, what do u think??
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1.6 to 2.1.
When Android became bearable.
I think definitely 2.3- 4.0.
Because 4.0 is going to be the tip of the iceberg to what could be coming in 4.X.X.
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Major changes in architecture in 4.0. Game changer!
pre-4.0 android for me was something that i would use but not care too much about, it carried out its mule-job on my phone and no more. disliked its stitchy-patchy implementation and amateurish design. it sure had all the features that ics has, but it was carelessly stuffed into the phone, disregarding its specifics. then ics came and they've made it with so much love for detail, it was tailor fit to run on my phone, it almost hovered above the amoled screen it was conceived for. the patchyness was gone, whereever i went it felt like one cast, the design was thought-through, minimalistic, elegant and sleek. that's when i started to care about android. as always, the sum is more than it's parts. even bada has features but to bring it all together, hardware, software, modern design, usability - it's an achievement for sure. ---only thing that sucks, it was ignored by the manufacturers. they either skipped it or destroyed it by disfiguration.
My first Android phone ran Eclair. It was not what I expected it to be because I'd heard brilliant things about it. Updated it to Froyo as soon as I could and found it much better. I'm running Gingerbread at minute, but think 2.1 to 2.2 is the biggest milestone so far. My mind will probably change when I have an ICS phone though...
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My first android was a 1.5 so, then the step to 2.1 was big. but the change to 4.0 now with updates is even bigger. And i like it even more, its just great !
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1.6 to 2.1.
When Android became bearable.
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Totally this.
Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately), most people on here did not have to deal with 1.6
2.1 (or 2.0) was when android started to look somewhat presentable.
1.6 to 2.1. It started to mature with this version.
1.6 to 2.1 and 2.2 to 2.3, 1&2.x to 4.0
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1.6 to 2.1 by far. It became the Android we know today. Sure 4.0 is also amazing, but 2.1 was the real game changer.
Surely everyone saying 2.1 is meaning 2.2? 2.1 was a bugfix and API tweak update.
For me, either 1.5 or 2.2.
1.5 was when Android truly got its own feel. It was smoother than WinMo devices, could do more than the iphone and was more customizable than either. The homescreen had widgets, still a hallmark function of Android and revamped the homescreen from a mere app launcher to a respectable desktop environment where you could access data and manipulate settings.
2.2 was remarkable because of insane speed increases and breaking Android out of its sharp niche for geeks.
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Yes ur right, but i still think that 2.1 to 2.2 is a huge step in the development history, even greater than 2.3 to 4.0 as 2.2 featured something that iPhone cannot match, and it is the first time for that
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Android's history of beating iOS to features started far before 2.2. 1.0 launched with digital compass and GPS support, MMS, wallpapers and centralized notifications, 1.5 added widgets, video recording, and copy and paste, 1.6 added voice-text/text-voice features unprecedented at the time and 2.0 had live wallpapers. The iPhone didn't have any of these at the respective times of their releases.
1.6 to 2.1
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Caticorn said:
Surely everyone saying 2.1 is meaning 2.2? 2.1 was a bugfix and API tweak update.
For me, either 1.5 or 2.2.
1.5 was when Android truly got its own feel. It was smoother than WinMo devices, could do more than the iphone and was more customizable than either. The homescreen had widgets, still a hallmark function of Android and revamped the homescreen from a mere app launcher to a respectable desktop environment where you could access data and manipulate settings.
2.2 was remarkable because of insane speed increases and breaking Android out of its sharp niche for geeks.
Android's history of beating iOS to features started far before 2.2. 1.0 launched with digital compass and GPS support, MMS, wallpapers and centralized notifications, 1.5 added widgets, video recording, and copy and paste, 1.6 added voice-text/text-voice features unprecedented at the time and 2.0 had live wallpapers. The iPhone didn't have any of these at the respective times of their releases.
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2.2 to 2.3 was just complete bull.
Having trouble with AOSP? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1295702
1.6 - 2.1 and 2.3 - 4.0 imo.
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Im gonna have to say from 2.1 to 2.2. That introduced flash. 2.3 to 4.0 is nice, but it seems that its mostly visual changes for the most part.
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Hey... Sooo I have KiNgxKxKlair DroidEris2G1 which I like because it's a Rosie UI based on something higher than 1.5. I really need software based on Donut or higher because I'm a nurse and I need Epocrates which requires 1.6 or higher.
Can anyone recommend another ROM because the one I'm using now is UBER slow and really can't function as an everyday ROM for me.
Not happening. HTC did not release 1.6 version of Sense (Rosie). They went directly from 1.5 to 2.x series.
Yes, there was an attempt to bring 1.6 donut sense, based on tatoo to our phones, but the guy who did it lost his phone half way through
(the rom needs resizing of images and that stuff... never happened)
But If you use King's Droid Eris eclair with enough swap (at least 64MB) and Fire4rts Kernel, it will be fast. (Have to look in the thread for his kernel...)
But rosie will always be slower than stock android on our phones, yet faster than any other sense I have tried (on par with jac's 1.5)
Is there anyway to port the Fully Functional EVO 2.2 Rom to the Hero. I would like to see the hero with a functional 2.2 sense Rom.
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Is there anyway to port the Fully Functional EVO 2.2 Rom to the Hero. I would like to see the hero with a functional 2.2 sense Rom.
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not gonna happen, we are waiting for another phone comparable with the hero to get it then it can be ported. on another note rumor has it sprint will be releasing another hero update in october. keep your fingers crossed that it could be froyo.
This may sound dumb...but what more could happen if the hero gets froyo since we already have it anyway?
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This may sound dumb...but what more could happen if the hero gets froyo since we already have it anyway?
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Right now Hero users have to choose between 2.2 without Sense, or 2.1 with Sense. A lot of people would like 2.2 with Sense.
bray424 said:
Right now Hero users have to choose between 2.2 without Sense, or 2.1 with Sense. A lot of people would like 2.2 with Sense.
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2 months ago I was saying the same thing. Been running CM6 since day 1 and got sense deprived for 2 days. Flashed CM6 back and found some alternatives to the sense look. Now I could care less about sense and any official update. IMHO, my phone runs better, faster and actually looks better without sense. The only good thing that would come of it would be to fix the very few issues that are left in the froyo ROM.
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This may sound dumb...but what more could happen if the hero gets froyo since we already have it anyway?
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lets see...sense and the goodies, less issues maybe?
i find it hard to believe you guys wouldn't want it. i bet 90% of you would hop on it once it got rooted.
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lets see...sense and the goodies, less issues maybe?
i find it hard to believe you guys wouldn't want it. i bet 90% of you would hop on it once it got rooted.
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I'm just so new that I wasn't even thinking about having the best of both worlds...I would def try that out if it becomes reality
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I would only start using a 2.2 Sense ROM if it had the speed and options like CyanogenMOD has... which will never happen. So I guess I'll never use a 2.2 Sense ROM.
Everyone needs to just ignore fixxer. I don't think a 2.2 sense rom on our phone will be better or faster than CM6.
I find zenrom and NFX-hero to be the same if not faster than our 2.2 rom. Plus it's sense which means it just looks a billion times better than aosp, plus our phones were meant to have sense on it so naturally the battery life will be a whole lot better. And then you throw froyo in it and get one of our devs to spruce it up then we got ourselves a mini evo. Why have a rom that looks worse no matter what you do to it and gets worse battey life and download 100 different things to make it look kind of like sense and get somewhat better battery life when you can have the real thing? I'm not trying to start a flame war, just throwing in my 2 bills.
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cp0020 said:
I find zenrom and NFX-hero to be the same if not faster than our 2.2 rom. Plus it's sense which means it just looks a billion times better than aosp, plus our phones were meant to have sense on it so naturally the battery life will be a whole lot better. And then you throw froyo in it and get one of our devs to spruce it up then we got ourselves a mini evo. Why have a rom that looks worse no matter what you do to it and gets worse battey life and download 100 different things to make it look kind of like sense and get somewhat better battery life when you can have the real thing? I'm not trying to start a flame war, just throwing in my 2 bills.
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I know the saying..." To each his own "...but..your not really not stating an opinion..your stating what you say as a "fact" I'm from Missouri...and we have an old saying here...it is.. show me So please show me how all sense roms looks 1,000,000,000 times better than any asop rom please.. As to you statement of a sense rom giving better battery life,sorry,I say BS. I have 4 Hero's in my household and mine is the only one that is rooted. Mine gives 2x-3x the battery life over the other 3 stock Hero's, 1 of which is barely used which is my wifes. I know this for a fact since I have been monitoring all of them very closely daily since rooting mine to see just how stable everything is before doing theirs.
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unCoRrUpTeD said:
Everyone needs to just ignore fixxer. I don't think a 2.2 sense rom on our phone will be better or faster than CM6.
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awe gee thanks, love you too.
and you got proof that it would run better?
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I know the saying..." To each his own "...but..your not really not stating an opinion..your stating what you say as a "fact" I'm from Missouri...and we have an old saying here...it is.. show me So please show me how all sense roms looks 1,000,000,000 times better than any asop rom please.. As to you statement of a sense rom giving better battery life,sorry,I say BS. I have 4 Hero's in my household and mine is the only one that is rooted. Mine gives 2x-3x the battery life over the other 3 stock Hero's, 1 of which is barely used which is my wifes. I know this for a fact since I have been monitoring all of them very closely daily since rooting mine to see just how stable everything is before doing theirs.
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Out of Every sense rom and aosp rom I've gotten a minimum of 6 hours more battery life out of the sense roms. I'm not saying aosp is slow either, but with the new zenrom and nfx-hero, sense is just as fast if not faster than our 2.2 aosp rom. And yes...that's a fact! The only thing that is a little slow on the sense roms is the messaging app. Aosp has always been great for me at the beginning, but after a few days it just gets slowed down for no reason. And I only have like 7 apps that I downloaded. Aosp is plain, sense has style! Sense will always no matter what look better than plain ol aosp.......
My last post was my opinion.... now I'm stating a fact
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Out of Every sense rom and aosp rom I've gotten a minimum of 6 hours more battery life out of the sense roms. I'm not saying aosp is slow either, but with the new zenrom and nfx-hero, sense is just as fast if not faster than our 2.2 aosp rom. And yes...that's a fact! The only thing that is a little slow on the sense roms is the messaging app. Aosp has always been great for me at the beginning, but after a few days it just gets slowed down for no reason. And I only have like 7 apps that I downloaded. Aosp is plain, sense has style! Sense will always no matter what look better than plain ol aosp.......
My last post was my opinion.... now I'm stating a fact
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Well...alrighty then. It sounds like you had a set up issue on your phone because out of my 4 Hero's..the way mine is set up now it flat out runs the stock sense rom's that I have here and has more gas at the end of the day, and everything turned on that I have to have turned off on the stock roms if I expect more than 8 hours of battery life. I haven't tried either of the other 2 roms you are talking about yet,but I might just to see if your just blowing smoke which I believe you are..since you still haven't validated any of you facts opinions yet..
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cp0020 said:
Out of Every sense rom and aosp rom I've gotten a minimum of 6 hours more battery life out of the sense roms. I'm not saying aosp is slow either, but with the new zenrom and nfx-hero, sense is just as fast if not faster than our 2.2 aosp rom. And yes...that's a fact! The only thing that is a little slow on the sense roms is the messaging app. Aosp has always been great for me at the beginning, but after a few days it just gets slowed down for no reason. And I only have like 7 apps that I downloaded. Aosp is plain, sense has style! Sense will always no matter what look better than plain ol aosp.......
My last post was my opinion.... now I'm stating a fact
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I agree that zenrom and nfx-hero are light-years faster than the stock 2.1 sense rom. I'd even venture to say that its as fast as 2.1 sense can get, its pretty damn snappy. But I hope when you say its faster than CM6, you aren't talking something quantitatively ... because frankly, the statistics don't back up that claim.
And you're right, regular AOSP is plain and boring. The reason it's like that is to start with as clean a slate as possible, and let you theme and mod to the nth degree. You can do the same thing with Sense, but not as easily, and it will never be as lightweight because of the extra HTC apps. Some phones can handle the extra weight, some can't. I guess it comes down to if you want to work to make your Hero uniquely beautiful, or commonly pallatable.
I respect your own opinion (my wife is a Sense lover, so I have this debate constantly, and respect the other side), however recognize the difference between facts and opinions, please. If you want to provide subjective "facts", please call them what FOX News calls them: truth.
I'll just say this, my phone with CM6 was not as fast as it is with Aloysius 2.1. I get higher mflops and quadrant scores with Aloysius. I also get about double the battery life. I think it all depends on the user. I am not saying sense is better, but in my phone (and the way I use it) the sense roms are faster and far less buggy. I like that I only have to flash one file and I am good to go. No flash rom, then gapps, then kernel, then battery tweak, then theme, etc, etc, etc.
I just think the Hero runs better with what it was intended to run. Thats my $0.02 anyways.
Even though Sense looks great compared to vanilla AOSP, visual appeal is not what I look for when comparing the two ROMS. I love how lightweight AOSP is, but wish it came with some of the awesome HTC widgets that are exlusive to Sense. To this day, the HTC keyboard, weather and calendar widgets, and a few other items have no equal in the FREE apps section of the Market.
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I'll just say this, my phone with CM6 was not as fast as it is with Aloysius 2.1. I get higher mflops and quadrant scores with Aloysius. I also get about double the battery life. I think it all depends on the user. I am not saying sense is better, but in my phone (and the way I use it) the sense roms are faster and far less buggy. I like that I only have to flash one file and I am good to go. No flash rom, then gapps, then kernel, then battery tweak, then theme, etc, etc, etc.
I just think the Hero runs better with what it was intended to run. Thats my $0.02 anyways.
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I agree. I tried CM6 and barely noticed a speed difference. I noticed several features and customizations, but nothing special that I can't do on my 2.1 sense rom. Actually, froyo isn't even all that to me. The only thing I want from Froyo is the marking/vending, but other than that there's nothing special like everyone says. BTW, I'm also using Aloysius 2.1 with my own theme I created.
This is also my 2 cents. And I am in no way saying that Aloysius is better than CM6, just that 2.1 sense roms have more of what I prefer.
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Obviously you've never used Zen-ROM before. It is MUCH much faster than CM6 ever was for me. I've had zero lag and fantastic battery life.
Mac11700 said:
I know the saying..." To each his own "...but..your not really not stating an opinion..your stating what you say as a "fact" I'm from Missouri...and we have an old saying here...it is.. show me So please show me how all sense roms looks 1,000,000,000 times better than any asop rom please.. As to you statement of a sense rom giving better battery life,sorry,I say BS. I have 4 Hero's in my household and mine is the only one that is rooted. Mine gives 2x-3x the battery life over the other 3 stock Hero's, 1 of which is barely used which is my wifes. I know this for a fact since I have been monitoring all of them very closely daily since rooting mine to see just how stable everything is before doing theirs.
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Yeah, because no one else in your house is using a rooted Hero with something like Zen-ROM on it..
I charged my phone today around 6 in the evening to 100%. It's now 5am and I STILL have over 70% battery life left, after using it pretty heavily with GMaps. CM6 never made it that far for me.
Hey i was wondering if there were any new gingersense roms that are only 2.1 with no added 3.0 features. as much as i like 3.0 i find all the roms a bit buggy. i think its due to the low memory and big file size of the 3.0 apps
im just looking for a full sense 2.1 rom so i can have the pull down toggles and the new app drawer. any roms out there?
I am currently running the Optimized Gingersense Beta 1 rom. It is strictly Sense 2.1 and is very stable for me. I have been using it as my daily driver since it was released. I know the latest Betas have been a mix of Sense 2.1 and 3.0, but I am waiting for them to become a little more stable.
Good luck.
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I am currently running the Optimized Gingersense Beta 1 rom. It is strictly Sense 2.1 and is very stable for me. I have been using it as my daily driver since it was released. I know the latest Betas have been a mix of Sense 2.1 and 3.0, but I am waiting for them to become a little more stable.
Good luck.
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That rom incorporates bits of Sense 3.0 as well. I think the idea of a 2.1 port would be great!
EDIT: I missed the beta 1 portion, my apologies.
what are some of the bugs in beta1? mms?
yea i dont think it would be to much to change. the lockscreen and weather app are a big bulk of the size i believe
I would also love a stock sense 2.1 rom
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Arent all of the Sense 2.1 ports GSM based? Everytime I used a Z Rom or Sense 2.1 or 3.0 (Whatever hybrids they are now) I would get phantom calls, funny mobile data switching, and the like.
If there was a CDMA based port perhaps this would all be moot?
There's a Thunderbolt gingerbread leak that one of the devs said he'd look into seeing if it was easy to port - assuming data worked when he tried. Not sure on his progress... but I too would like to see a stock 2.X rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996193 - link to TBolt leak.
warm z 2.0 ran wonderful on my phone and i had no phantom calls. these were some problems for others i believe. its just hard coming from warm z which was super smooth and going to a 2.1/3.0 hybrid with all that bulk and then getting lag in places i never experienced before
I'm behind this one too. Not saying that the 2.1/3.0 hybrids are bad, rather quite the opposite. They are amazing ROMs with amazing developers behind them. Just the 3.0 features create lag in places and eat just a little too much of our quite limited ram for what I do with my device. Would have made a full stock 2.1 with the new fixes myself except ... lol ... I don't know how.
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I'm behind this one too. Not saying that the 2.1/3.0 hybrids are bad, rather quite the opposite. They are amazing ROMs with amazing developers behind them. Just the 3.0 features create lag in places and eat just a little too much of our quite limited ram for what I do with my device. Would have made a full stock 2.1 with the new fixes myself except ... lol ... I don't know how.
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I would love to see a port right from the EVO Shift...it's cdma and some 2.1/3.0 ports are already floating around out there...nothing it stock 2.1 though.
I think you will find that the 2.1/3.0 Roms have come a long way. Nils ginger sense is getting great reviews. If you have a spare 30-40 minutes, flash Newts Hybrid. He has fixed a lot of the issues. He just found the 720 cam fix and it also fixed the gallery. No lag in lock screen and no Rosie loading issues. Worth playing with.
not saying they havent, the definitely have, i just prefer sense 2.1 everything pretty much, at least for the dinc, only camera and weather do i like @ 3.0
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I am currently running the Optimized Gingersense Beta 1 rom. It is strictly Sense 2.1 and is very stable for me. I have been using it as my daily driver since it was released. I know the latest Betas have been a mix of Sense 2.1 and 3.0, but I am waiting for them to become a little more stable.
Good luck.
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how are the call or call quality issues anything i should know about? i use my phone for work and the extra features are welcome if its stable and wont phantom alot of calls
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how are the call or call quality issues anything i should know about? i use my phone for work and the extra features are welcome if its stable and wont phantom alot of calls
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The newest ones are cdma based (evo shift and evo 3d) so the phantom call issue is nonexistent on those
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dang just use the older one that is 2.1 through and through and remembered that it has the 3g drop issue
Hi all. I've tried ICS on my IncS and on my Asus transformer TF 101. After a month's use on the Asus and a week's use on the inc s, I've reverted to stock Rom on the Asus and to ARHD (almost stock) on the inc s. Correct me or convince me but I find ICS to be one big step sideways (or is it in the wrong direction)?. Your comments?
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I prefer sense ROMs.
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Sense fanboy rules out this whole statement. Going from cm7 to cm9 is extreme. If I wasn't on a cell I'd elaborate.
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Hi all. I've tried ICS on my IncS and on my Asus transformer TF 101. After a month's use on the Asus and a week's use on the inc s, I've reverted to stock Rom on the Asus and to ARHD (almost stock) on the inc s. Correct me or convince me but I find ICS to be one big step sideways (or is it in the wrong direction)?. Your comments?
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I guess ICS is a huge step for guys that never tried MIUI or don't like Sense Roms, for those o tried/like MIUI and Sense it is a question of just some more features.
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Hi all. I've tried ICS on my IncS and on my Asus transformer TF 101. After a month's use on the Asus and a week's use on the inc s, I've reverted to stock Rom on the Asus and to ARHD (almost stock) on the inc s. Correct me or convince me but I find ICS to be one big step sideways (or is it in the wrong direction)?. Your comments?
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At least for devices built with/for Sense in mind, when it gets officially combined with ICS by HTC (later this year, they say), it may reveal a new light on the subject.
It might work great and be more stable/smooth and give you the desired Sense functions that current ICS ports don't have.
And only at 4.0.3, ICS may yet have places to go we will have to wait to see.
Maybe you are correct, still.. for now...
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I've tried ICS on my IncS and on my Asus transformer TF 101.
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These two bits of information are key. Try it on a Galaxy Nexus / Nexus S and you may have a differing opinion.
well as st.matt said, you should try it on the galaxy nexus device and then only you will get the real taste of ice crem sandwich!
With better interface,power management,loads of new features...its definitely better than its previous versions.
@StMatt,
I agree better hardware, newer phone goes well with ICS. But does it mean that older phones with less RAM, slower single core processors can run the same OS with all bells & whistles? I have this inc s which I feel.is good enough with ARHD sense 3.0 (even sense 3.5 makes this phone groan & creak), so what is good for THIS device? ICS with all its refinements? Without some 'nice to have features' that Google has deliberately throttled in ICS? Or even the ICS upgrade with sense 3.5, that's due in Q2? Maybe the last option seems best IMHO. Anyone else like to refute?
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@StMatt,
I agree better hardware, newer phone goes well with ICS. But does it mean that older phones with less RAM, slower single core processors can run the same OS with all bells & whistles? I have this inc s which I feel.is good enough with ARHD sense 3.0 (even sense 3.5 makes this phone groan & creak), so what is good for THIS device? ICS with all its refinements? Without some 'nice to have features' that Google has deliberately throttled in ICS? Or even the ICS upgrade with sense 3.5, that's due in Q2? Maybe the last option seems best IMHO. Anyone else like to refute?
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Doesn't have to do specifically with hardware. It means those phones and tablets have better support due to official releases.
Everything else that doesn't have an official release has devs trying their best to get it working, but not everything is working or disabled. Such as most HTC devices.
Sense 3.5 reduced my phone to a laggy mess, which is why I switched to miui. I'd be interested in seeing what the official release of ICS runs like when it's out.
When htc release the update to Ics there will be lots of Ics Roms that are really smooth and fast for the incredible s
yes agree with you. sens + ics in my opinion will be a step forward
I'm waiting too for ICS + sense. Lets get our hopes up..... Or not!
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After seeing the ICS ports by StMatt and Virtuous team, I'm having a sneaky, suspicious feeling that ICS + sense will make me wish for going back to gingerbread + sense.
ICS IMO has been a major disappointment, (just like the Niagara Falls have been the second major disappointment in an American bride's life).
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I've been running the Quattro ROM on my phone for almost a month now, and while that ROM does have some customization in it and still has a fair bit of bugs, I'd have a hard time going back to 2.3 even with the Sense. While Sense is really nice, Android before ICS did have a fair bit of lag on it and just didn't feel as smooth as things like iOS. With ICS, moving homescreens, swiping pages in applications, etc. just feels a little more natural and with less lag.
Plus, with Google Chrome for ICS, that's enough reason to go over. Miles above the stock Android browser!
Nik is releasing a sense+ ics rom tomorrow and I can't wait to try it. I tried all the other ics roms that are out for the incs and I have to admit that I'm quite disappointed. I use cm7 before I switched to trinity so niks New rom might be the one for me
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They're disappointments bcuz they're betas! FCs and shortages aside they look charming can't w8 for a miui 4 that's stable
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Recovery: 4EXT v1.0.0.3 RC3 Touch
Radio: 3322.10.08.28_M
ROM: MIUI
I guess they will truly be stable when htc releases the update at the end of march ... Right now I'm going to flash niks dream rom to tie me down
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Seems like some Microsoft initiated FUD campaign, in order to promote Windows 8; but whaddya know, there may just be some truth in the fact that "ICS has not been well received by phone / tablet manufacturers and ICS acceptance percentages have been way too little"
Maybe there is some truth in the blurb, and maybe the sour grapes feeling in me is really justified....
Read the link.....
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120215PD209.html[url]
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Do you think the ICS original rom will receive 3.X kernel?That would be awesome!
There is something I need to ask. Stock Ics have some good features but new Ics update we have doesn't have them. For example number splitter on Calling. I mean stock Ics split numbers like 0-530-540-5555. But sense 3.6 0530540555. We also don't have panoramic camera, mtp USB connection, big picture on contacts info screens etc.
Why ? Are these not important things ? I already search that features to mod my Rom, no luck.
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Number splitting as 1-212-535-6789 is a US telephone numbering method. The ICS ROM which has been released is a WWE (worldwide English release) and obviously the rest of the wold is greater and more important than the US: ergo, no number splitting. Satisfied? Or do you still believe tha the US is the center of the world?
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It almost seems to be like sense 3.5 with a few ICS features
A lot of it to me has a gingerbread sense feel
Theres not much from the upgrade of GB to ICS, IMO they have stripped and changed some features and things from ICS to differentiate from other phones/manufacturers?
Seems to me like they are not taking advantage of ICS on sense 3.6
I don't even think we have zero shutter lag in sense camera
This is the reason I have changed from GB sense to AOSP ICS
It just looked and felt too much like runny 3.5, but then again its only a 0.1 bump in number so there is not much different
I am still loving the AOSP/AOKP look and the added features over HTC sense 3.6
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markj338 said:
It almost seems to be like sense 3.5 with a few ICS features
A lot of it to me has a gingerbread sense feel
Theres not much from the upgrade of GB to ICS, IMO they have stripped and changed some features and things from ICS to differentiate from other phones/manufacturers?
Seems to me like they are not taking advantage of ICS on sense 3.6
I don't even think we have zero shutter lag in sense camera
This is the reason I have changed from GB sense to AOSP ICS
It just looked and felt too much like runny 3.5, but then again its only a 0.1 bump in number so there is not much different
I am still loving the AOSP/AOKP look and the added features over HTC sense 3.6
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I tried the Niks custom ICS Rom with sense 4 and I actually didn't like the changes to the app menu as I am used to vertical swipe since Froyo days. Also the way the homescreen are customized in sense 4 doesnt make any sense to me. It looks slick but at the end of the day it unnecessarily complicates things. It also produces a slight lag as compared to the older way of doing it. I think the newer phones like one x are more capable to handle this new feature. Also the drop down menu has been modified in ICS which I don't quite like. The quick settings option in custom roms are so much better than what's available with these official updates. Thats all about sense 4. I then flashed the Official ICS ruu with sense 3.6 which thankfully makes me feel closer to home. However, access to full settings from the quick settings menu isn't any simpler after the update. In fact it took me a day to realize that the small gear shaped image is clickable. LOL on that! I also hate the fact that the call accept reject and most other similar buttons have been interchanged. This is just ridiculously lame!
But most importantly and on a super positive note my phone is much faster with ICS, sense or no sense. On nenumark2 my score increased from 8fps to 27fps and my battery life also seems to have improved considerably.
ps: this is just my opinion. feel free to debate.
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ragapa97 said:
Number splitting as 1-212-535-6789 is a US telephone numbering method. The ICS ROM which has been released is a WWE (worldwide English release) and obviously the rest of the wold is greater and more important than the US: ergo, no number splitting. Satisfied? Or do you still believe tha the US is the center of the world?
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Nope. I'm not satisfied. You're not geting my point. This splitting method also works on Turkey Telephone numbers. I think they can make this selectable on some languages. Like miui did.
But at the end of the day the number you want to ring will still work. The number calling you will still work.
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But at the end of the day the number you want to ring will still work. The number calling you will still work.
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Thats is one way to look at
You're right, the numbers will be the same in the end, the splitting allows for a better reading, especially when you're used to it because it's usually done like that in your country.
But nevertheless: it's not really important