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RAM problem!

hello everyone...i don't know why i always find my ram nearly full
about 90mb free sometimes 31mb!
i don't have much apps and no i dont minimize them
only apps in background are mail, update, music,...stock things
am running 2.3.4 gingerbread
20n
any suggestions on how to improve or something like this?

theaks30 said:
hello everyone...i don't know why i always find my ram nearly full
about 90mb free sometimes 31mb!
i don't have much apps and no i dont minimize them
only apps in background are mail, update, music,...stock things
am running 2.3.4 gingerbread
20n
any suggestions on how to improve or something like this?
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u rooted???or stock LG unrooted firmware??

theaks30 said:
hello everyone...i don't know why i always find my ram nearly full
about 90mb free sometimes 31mb!
i don't have much apps and no i dont minimize them
only apps in background are mail, update, music,...stock things
am running 2.3.4 gingerbread
20n
any suggestions on how to improve or something like this?
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Try and use the v6 supercharger script which is posted on xda it works wonders on memory management and I do mean wonders. Ill try dig link out soon
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Try to close manually process who "eat" a lot of ram memory.

Thanks buddies
I went back to zeus v2.1 and its over 200mb free again
Yes had to manually force stop

achyut said:
u rooted???or stock LG unrooted firmware??
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Why did you told about stock ROM.Is it affecting the RAM???

No more auto-kill
I use both Autorun Manager and Startup Manager. May be first is enough but just to be sure... I use Go lanucher fx and its plug-ins, ram eatin monster SBP 3D shell (uses 50 mb ram) all at once, but still get 70-80 mb ram. If you use i am certain you'll get at least 150 mb.
But first of all your phone must be rooted. As always... And you should remove every unnecessary program. Like out Turkish stock rom.. Full of crappy programs. They made a root for V20b and V20n. I hope someone would make for our V20a too. And we can update to 2.3 too. I am certain Autorun manager will do the trick for you. It prevents programs to start all over again when you kill them. Cheers.

[Q] Is Miui inherently unstable?

Every Miui rom I have tried on my many U9000-81 cincinnati bell phones has done this, When the browser or any app stalls, the phone will reboot. Is this a memory overflow causing this? Is it inherent in the phone? I am not a rom developer but this is the reason that I don't like the Miui Rom. First and foremost the phone should be stable. Sorry for the rant.

Sergekarol said:
Every Miui rom I have tried on my many U9000-81 cincinnati bell phones has done this, When the browser or any app stalls, the phone will reboot. Is this a memory overflow causing this? Is it inherent in the phone? I am not a rom developer but this is the reason that I don't like the Miui Rom. First and foremost the phone should be stable. Sorry for the rant.
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memmory is great issue with MIUI, many time its own lauuncher got freez because of memmory issue .... using different launcher over MIUI to overcome memmory isuue...

My phone rarely reboots on MIUI and I'm using go launcher and many background apps are also running, I'd suggest you try V6 by zeppelinrox

My phone always has more then 150mb free ram and find no reboot so far. Can you give me some tips to try to make miui reboot or some app names to try the stability?
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CacingKalung said:
My phone always has more then 150mb free ram and find no reboot so far. Can you give me some tips to try to make miui reboot or some app names to try the stability?
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CK what you use to make free 150 + ram for all time, Now I am using ADW launcher to counter memory problem but not that successful
@paarkhi was using V6 supercharger on RC2 after that forget to use it again ... run it again to check the results ....

V6 rejuvenates the phone in my case, can't say about others

vivekb said:
CK what you use to make free 150 + ram for all time, Now I am using ADW launcher to counter memory problem but not that successful
@paarkhi was using V6 supercharger on RC2 after that forget to use it again ... run it again to check the results ....
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I tried to avoid widgets in each desktop. Widgets will take more cpu and ram for them to work for background and foreground process.
I'm not using any additional tweak other than default rom tweak. I'm using ssLauncher and no widget in every desktop, that's make always 150+ free ram. This launcher is more smooth and light than miui default launcher and quite beautiful even without widget. Maybe not everyone comfortable with this launcher but this is what I looked for from long time ago, paper curl effect desktop change.

For More free RAM, you Guy's should try "RAM Manager" App. you can easily get more than +200 free MB of RAM. Max i got was around 260MB on my CM7.2, I have screen on my phone, i can't show you guy's because my Phone is stolen
Here is the Market link :- CLICK HERE
Free version should be ok because "Balance" Profile work's best for our device & you should run this app in a every while to Boost your RAM...!!

yashwantsingh said:
For More free RAM, you Guy's should try "RAM Manager" App. you can easily get more than +200 free MB of RAM. Max i got was around 260MB on my CM7.2, I have screen on my phone, i can't show you guy's because my Phone is stolen
Here is the Market link :- CLICK HERE
Free version should be ok because "Balance" Profile work's best for our device & you should run this app in a every while to Boost your RAM...!!
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Well unless an app like firefox has a memory leak there should be no issue with memory. And if it does have a memory leak bad enough to crash the OS, a memory manager will not have enough ram to run under that circumstance either. But why don't I have an issue like that with Cyanogenmod?

Sergekarol said:
But why don't I have an issue like that with Cyanogenmod?
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Because cm is light on memory

Sergekarol said:
Well unless an app like firefox has a memory leak there should be no issue with memory. And if it does have a memory leak bad enough to crash the OS, a memory manager will not have enough ram to run under that circumstance either. But why don't I have an issue like that with Cyanogenmod?
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You remind me with firefox. I stop using firefox several months ago because of memory leak of this app, make the OS reboot even I regularly update the app, but not remember what rom I was used. Since that time I never use firefox again, opera mobile take the place.
Normally the ram manager should not crash even with the memory leak of some apps, it should kill them when the memory reach the minimum free size limitation as we configure in minfree. From what you said, may be the configuration of this minfree will help the memory manager to breath a little deeper.
I think we should give this four values not to low in minfree:
- FOREGROUND_APP
- VISIBLE_APP
- SECONDARY_SERVER
- EMPTY_APP
But will decrease the chance to switch to other task, it will start over from the beginning for some apps.
Well... that what I thought.
I've to consider this for my future rom ports. But I hasn't found this issue in my current rom. I 'll try to install firefox and open many site on tabs.
Edited: Confirmed.... after using firefox with several webs on tabs opened, it got rebooted. But no reboot if using opera mobile.

paarkhi said:
Because cm is light on memory
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Makes sense. I read above that someone tries to keep 150 mb free and I have 771 mb free with my CM7 rom that I am using. Lots of free memory available.

Sergekarol said:
Makes sense. I read above that someone tries to keep 150 mb free and I have 771 mb free with my CM7 rom that I am using. Lots of free memory available.
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Our device ram only has 512mb. I think that was not free ram, that must be free internal nvm memory . I have 630mb free internal memory.
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Sergekarol said:
Makes sense. I read above that someone tries to keep 150 mb free and I have 771 mb free with my CM7 rom that I am using. Lots of free memory available.
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Ram and internal memory is different, what you are saying is internal memory and as CK said we only have 512mb but 352 mb shown

Sergekarol said:
Makes sense. I read above that someone tries to keep 150 mb free and I have 771 mb free with my CM7 rom that I am using. Lots of free memory available.
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He he he
Its a good joke bro. ...... person above mentioning 150 mb speaking about ram and you are speaking about internal memory. ..its 700 + for me too. ....
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CacingKalung said:
You remind me with firefox. I stop using firefox several months ago because of memory leak of this app, make the OS reboot even I regularly update the app, but not remember what rom I was used. Since that time I never use firefox again, opera mobile take the place.
Normally the ram manager should not crash even with the memory leak of some apps, it should kill them when the memory reach the minimum free size limitation as we configure in minfree. From what you said, may be the configuration of this minfree will help the memory manager to breath a little deeper.
I think we should give this four values not to low in minfree:
- FOREGROUND_APP
- VISIBLE_APP
- SECONDARY_SERVER
- EMPTY_APP
But will decrease the chance to switch to other task, it will start over from the beginning for some apps.
Well... that what I thought.
I've to consider this for my future rom ports. But I hasn't found this issue in my current rom. I 'll try to install firefox and open many site on tabs.
Edited: Confirmed.... after using firefox with several webs on tabs opened, it got rebooted. But no reboot if using opera mobile.
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What rom is this with?

vivekb said:
He he he
Its a good joke bro. ...... person above mentioning 150 mb speaking about ram and you are speaking about internal memory. ..its 700 + for me too. ....
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Duh I knew something sounded funny.

paarkhi said:
Ram and internal memory is different, what you are saying is internal memory and as CK said we only have 512mb but 352 mb shown
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OK So right now my phone has 104 avail out of 351. One tab opened in firefox now 97/351 5 tabs 102/351 6 tabs 98/351. Not seeing that Firefox is causing problems with CM7. This only happens with Miui as far as I can tell.

Is the problem With Firefox or Miui? Do other programs cause the same problem with Miui? Not Opera obviously. I personally love the look of Miui but reliability is key with me. I hate reboot problems.

Sergekarol said:
Is the problem With Firefox or Miui? Do other programs cause the same problem with Miui? Not Opera obviously. I personally love the look of Miui but reliability is key with me. I hate reboot problems.
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Problem is with launcher of MIUI, its really a RAM eater ......
over MIUI you can try other launcher and will see the difference
was using AWD an go on MIUI from some days really want to say never rebooted from then......
Also constantly getting RAM above 150 MB ....
AWD is preferred choice to get more while go with lots of customization option.
Also try V6 supercharger ....

What's the best custom ROM for saving ram?

What's the best Rom to save Ram
I'm on miui usually I have 70-110 ram free
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Its not so much as you need a different rom as you should try stopping startup apps. I use autorun manger app and optimize toolbox. Download off the market and if you got root you can stop system apps like gmail and google maps from starting up when y0u arnt useing them. Optimize tool box has a task killer and a startup manager i disable everything in there except autorun manager. Autorun manager on the other hand i disable everythin except like android os and other important stuff like that. With the pro version if you have root you can stop the recivers which helps alot. Another app if you have root is fast reboot pro, which is another very good one to have. Try not to use widgets they take up ram as well. Using those meathods i manage to get my ram down to about 117 mb used, which is just over 200mb free. I hope this helps.
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go with gamerzrom, burakgon (the developer) did everything for the rom to have more ram as much as possible. +really great on gaming.

taz0697 said:
Its not so much as you need a different rom as you should try stopping startup apps. I use autorun manger app and optimize toolbox. Download off the market and if you got root you can stop system apps like gmail and google maps from starting up when y0u arnt useing them. Optimize tool box has a task killer and a startup manager i disable everything in there except autorun manager. Autorun manager on the other hand i disable everythin except like android os and other important stuff like that. With the pro version if you have root you can stop the recivers which helps alot. Another app if you have root is fast reboot pro, which is another very good one to have. Try not to use widgets they take up ram as well. Using those meathods i manage to get my ram down to about 117 mb used, which is just over 200mb free. I hope this helps.
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Tnx m8 ill try that right now

nieohl said:
go with gamerzrom, burakgon (the developer) did everything for the rom to have more ram as much as possible. +really great on gaming.
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ok ill try that too Tnx

btw which one is better Dark Knight or Gamerzrom?
ive downladed The Dark Knight But in its data theres Nova Launcher(nova launcher is an launcher like Adw , go launcher , but nova is ics launcher , does this mean that the Dark knight is Launcher instead of ROM?)

Dark night is a rom but that is what they are using as a stock launcher for the rom
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[Q] task managers and battery savers

do these apps really help save your battery or is it the other way around?if it does any recommendations on what task managers and battery savers to use?

From my experience, do not use task managers/app killers. Android manages fine on its own.
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Juice defender is really gud if u wish to save battery

IMHO task manager isnt solutions.
if you really wanna save your battery, turn off 3G / HSDPA .
set brightness as dark as it possible,

Blooddread said:
do these apps really help save your battery or is it the other way around?if it does any recommendations on what task managers and battery savers to use?
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ok i think here's the weird part. The battery savers save less battery than if you manually set the options. However if you want battery saving together with automatic settings try juice defender. I recommend the ultimate version. And don't use task managers, android manages it's own memory. Only use one if an app is poorly coded but it is essential for your work (or school or whatever). At most, try the V6 supercharger script by zeppelinrox
but anw you'll need root

blazerphoenix said:
ok i think here's the weird part. The battery savers save less battery than if you manually set the options. However if you want battery saving together with automatic settings try juice defender. I recommend the ultimate version. And don't use task managers, android manages it's own memory. Only use one if an app is poorly coded but it is essential for your work (or school or whatever). At most, try the V6 supercharger script by zeppelinrox
but anw you'll need root
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will the script work on stock kernel?

Blooddread said:
will the script work on stock kernel?
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Yes.
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[Q] need app

Hey everyone
as we all know the ram of the x8 is so small :'(, and some apps like the ****y Facebook takes about 50 mb from the ram
I need an application that block apps from starting on their own
I found one for controling which app should start on boot but I need another to control them after that
thanks in advance
Ps :locked bootloader can't do swapping
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Delete the useless apps like FB.....
And use ram manager pro from play store..

Advanced Task Killer from playstore is one of the best app that y are looking for!!
If i helped you hit thanks button
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Log off your Facebook account
NikosGREECE said:
Advanced Task Killer from playstore is one of the best app that y are looking for!!
If i helped you hit thanks button
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Task killer can harm your phone
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dagger said:
Delete the useless apps like FB.....
And use ram manager pro from play store..
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IAmNice said:
Of freeze them!
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NRG001 said:
Log off your Facebook account
Task killer can harm your phone
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Thanks guys for checking my post
But the problem is that i need this apps but i just want them to start whenever i want not whenever they wont
I cant freez fb because the synced contacts will be gone
And sure thing I wont be using task killer
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NRG001 said:
Log off your Facebook account
Task killer can harm your phone
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task killer does not harm your phone
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Zewarxx said:
Hey everyone
as we all know the ram of the x8 is so small :'(, and some apps like the ****y Facebook takes about 50 mb from the ram
I need an application that block apps from starting on their own
I found one for controling which app should start on boot but I need another to control them after that
thanks in advance
Ps :locked bootloader can't do swapping
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open the app once..go in settings force close it.. it wont start again till you connect internet..

I use ES task killer , mainly reason is to clean cache fast.And delete facebook app is like twilight for your phone.
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Alternatively you can enjoy ur facebook through any good browser like one browser and manage ur ram with ram manager pro.
I do it that way.
Officially corp via w8

Mockingbird said:
I use ES task killer , mainly reason is to clean cache fast.And delete facebook app is like twilight for your phone.
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hehe I need it to sync contacts
leecorp said:
Alternatively you can enjoy ur facebook through any good browser like one browser and manage ur ram with ram manager pro.
I do it that way.
Officially corp via w8
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I'm using it also thanks buddy
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cybervibin said:
So i saw many posts on which people have asked as to which task killer should be used !
and then i stumble upon this site which provided me the details,
*I HAVE NOT WRITTEN THIS*
sources-by Chris Hoffman
http://www.howtogeek.com/127388/htg-explains-why-you-shouldnt-use-a-task-killer-on-android/
Android Doesn’t Manage Processes Like Windows
Most Android users are familiar with Windows. On Windows, many programs running at one time – whether they’re windows on your desktop or applications in your system tray – can decrease your computer’s performance. Closing applications when you’re not using them can help speed up your Windows computer.
However, Android isn’t Windows and doesn’t manage processes like Windows does. Unlike on Windows, where there’s an obvious way to close applications, there’s no obvious way to “close” an Android application. This is by design and isn’t a problem. When you leave an Android app, going back to your home screen or switching to another app, the app stays “running” in the background. In most cases, the app will be paused in the background, taking up no CPU or network resources. Some apps will continue using CPU and network resources in the background, of course – for example, music players, file-downloading programs, or apps that sync in the background.
When you go back to an app you were recently using, Android “unpauses” that app and you resume where you left off. This is fast because the app is still stored in your RAM and ready to be used again.
Why Task Killers Are Bad
Proponents of task killers notice that Android is using a lot of RAM – in fact, Android stores a lot of apps in its memory, filling up the RAM! However, that isn’t a bad thing. Apps stored in your RAM can be quickly switched to without Android having to load them from its slower storage.
In summary, you shouldn’t use a task killer – if you have a misbehaving app wasting resources in the background, you should identify it and uninstall it. But don’t just remove apps from your phone or tablet’s RAM – that doesn’t help speed anything up.
Empty RAM is useless. Full RAM is RAM that is being put to good use for caching apps. If Android needs more memory, it will force-quit an app that you haven’t used in a while – this all happens automatically, without installing any task killers.
Task killers think they know better than Android. They run in the background, automatically quitting apps and removing them from Android’s memory. They may also allow you to force-quit apps on your own, but you shouldn’t have to do this.
Task killers aren’t just useless – they can reduce performance. If a task killer removes an app from your RAM and you open that app again, the app will be slower to load as Android is forced to load it from your device’s storage. This will also use more battery power than if you just left the app in your RAM in the first place. Some apps will automatically restart after the task killer quits them, using more CPU and battery resources.
Whether RAM is empty or full, it takes the same amount of battery power – decreasing the amount of apps stored in RAM won’t improve your battery power or offer more CPU cycles.
hope u understood!
words of wisdom by fellow-mates
go into settings - apps and see how many running apps you have. now go to cached apps and see there, how many apps there are. you see? nearly 50% of those apps discovered by you in the processes are apps that you didn't opened ever but they are still opened and running. why? because that's how linux manages its resources. instead of having free ram for no use (what's the point of having 14gb of ram when you only use 1gb), linux fills all the ram blocks with useful apps or apps that you are running frequently so that when you call that app, it will bring it on the screen almost instantly. this my friend, is called multitasking.
and no, you are wrong. if you use a task killer killing the apps every 10 minutes, the cycles the whole system does - opening again apps and caching them, task killer closing them - results in much more functions done by CPU => more battery spent. even if you say that the battery life its the same, you are wrong. when using a task killer IT MIGHT drain your battery with 0.1% per hour. it's not that much, but IT EXIST.
oh and yeah, one thing: android has its own task killer. that's why you don't need one app to kill your other apps. because android its doing it by itself. if you don't believe me, strip down one kernel, open the init.rc file and find the values for task killer.
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Zewarxx said:
Hey everyone
as we all know the ram of the x8 is so small :'(, and some apps like the ****y Facebook takes about 50 mb from the ram
I need an application that block apps from starting on their own
I found one for controling which app should start on boot but I need another to control them after that
thanks in advance
Ps :locked bootloader can't do swapping
Sent from my X8 using xda premium
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I don't know if this is helpful or not but I'm trying to help you. I don't recommend you to use an application to block apps from starting on their own because it will ruin how Android managed it memory consumption. Since you've talked that Facebook app takes about 50MB of RAM I recommend you to use this instead of Facebook official app.
Hope I helped you.

Thanks man I got it now its bad to do such a thing
^_^
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