[Q] Does changing LCD density have negative results? - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey Guys.
I have recently discovered how to change my LCD density using Rom Toolbox. I have changed it to make everything smaller, kind of zoomed out. I was so happy until I wasn't able to install apps off of Google Play. My question is: why does LCD density mess up market downloads and can it have a negative impact on the device? IE: does the screen have to constantly re-draw to set to new density?
If anyone is knowledgeable about how LCD density (build.prop) effects the device, can you please post below with your smartness Thanks.

i have seen how this work in my galaxy s where they had higher density roms.
i dont think it can actually hurt your device.
i have tried it on an ics rom on my n1 and i dont experience any trouble to install apps from play. may be its gb problem or specifically your rom?
actually i was surprised how well the system adapted to the new settings
except a few graphical artifacts everything looks ok.
btw i used 200 value on medroid 6.1 if i remember correctly.

ilusha2007 said:
i have seen how this work in my galaxy s where they had higher density roms.
i dont think it can actually hurt your device.
i have tried it on an ics rom on my n1 and i dont experience any trouble to install apps from play. may be its gb problem or specifically your rom?
actually i was surprised how well the system adapted to the new settings
except a few graphical artifacts everything looks ok.
btw i used 200 value on medroid 6.1 if i remember correctly.
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Yea, I tried lowering the density and I couldn't install any apps off of the market. I had to set back, reboot, and clear Play's data in order to download more apps. Happened to me on CM7.2, not sure if it is a rom limited problem or if that's just how it is.

The apps themselves aren't coded for such low (or high) pixel density for your device.

Theshawty said:
The apps themselves aren't coded for such low (or high) pixel density for your device.
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as i said i havent expirianced any app related problems and i checked games as well
may be someone with cm7 can verefy?

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[Q] Loving my Nook Color but...

So now that I finally have my Nook rooted and running Custom Nookie Froyo im playing with it constantly. I noticed while looking at it next to my HTC Droid Eris that the Eris screen looks crisper and more colorfull. Obviously the Nook is much bigger but I began to wonder if it looked better with the original software than it does now. Has anyone else noticed this or is it just me? Could it be something that will improve as development of the software continues? Is there an app that will allow me to fine tune the colors?
I think the colors look great although it would be nice to be able to adjust them if you want. as far as i know there is no way to adjust at this time.
Im not complaining by any means but clearly next to my phone I can see a difference. Im thinking its simply because Froyo is scaled larger than Google intended which may cause the loss in crispness and color. I was just wondering if anyone else noticed and maybe had a theory as to why. Looks like Ill just stick to my theory and continue to enjoy this fantastic software on this fantastic device.
IFLATLINEI said:
Im not complaining by any means but clearly next to my phone I can see a difference. Im thinking its simply because Froyo is scaled larger than Google intended which may cause the loss in crispness and color. I was just wondering if anyone else noticed and maybe had a theory as to why. Looks like Ill just stick to my theory and continue to enjoy this fantastic software on this fantastic device.
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Have you adjusted LCD Density?
That's the first thing that came to mind when you said "loss in crispness".
Adjust screen?
This is what was brought up before while posters were talking wallpaper. How is this done? i'm going to check the menus now for density.....
I think it's just because froyo was never meant to stretch like this. I use CM7 which defaults to the ADW launcher and it looks crisp to me, but that launcher is also compatible with larger screens.
Well I seemed to have taken care of it. I was being thrown off by the lousy way it handles wallpaper. Using ES Explorer to set my wallpaper made a huge difference.
Even still how does one find the LCD density settings?
download an lcd density app from the market
pyro6128 said:
download an lcd density app from the market
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Or use Root Explorer and check out the how-to that's stickied. The build.prop file is in the same location as 2.1
pyro6128 said:
download an lcd density app from the market
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Or if you want to do it the manual way, and you have adb installed..
(on your computer)
Code:
adb pull /system/build.prop
then use a text editor to edit build.prop. Change the line with "density" (just do a search for it) from 160 or 169 or whatever to whatever value you want.
then, again on your computer
Code:
adb remount
adb push build.prop /system/
adb reboot

[Q] Custom LCD Density / DPI

Hi..
I've searched about this LCD Density setting and found that it works on other devices.
But I'm not succeed with my Optimus 2X, I use 2-3 tools from Market, none of them works (the value is resetted to 240 after reboot).
So, do someone know how to do this? please share to us..
Note: I haven't touch build.prop manually.. .. still not that comfy editing text settings directly .. will try that later..
Thanks!
gideonrs said:
Hi..
I've searched about this LCD Density setting and found that it works on other devices.
But I'm not succeed with my Optimus 2X, I use 2-3 tools from Market, none of them works (the value is resetted to 240 after reboot).
So, do someone know how to do this? please share to us..
Note: I haven't touch build.prop manually.. .. still not that comfy editing text settings directly .. will try that later..
Thanks!
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Edit build.prop
Just change the line lcddensity=240 to whatever you want, I personally use 200 and it stays after every reboot.
If using the new market you might run into to "app not compatible with your device" after changing the density - it can be worked around using an older market (I use 2.3.6)
gideonrs said:
Hi..
I've searched about this LCD Density setting and found that it works on other devices.
But I'm not succeed with my Optimus 2X, I use 2-3 tools from Market, none of them works (the value is resetted to 240 after reboot).
So, do someone know how to do this? please share to us..
Note: I haven't touch build.prop manually.. .. still not that comfy editing text settings directly .. will try that later..
Thanks!
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this is the best way to fiddle with it, imo every settings looks really bad with this phone.
I have an app for it
Its called lcd density changer and it works...
pa.pn2 said:
I have an app for it
Its called lcd density changer and it works...
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he said that the app dosent work him (for me it does) but it dosent matter, best way is to fiddle with the file in case the app dosent work.
hi, all..
yes, finally i've decided to edit it manually ..
215 is the best for me (well, I just try 200, 190, 215.. .. for me 200 is a little bit blurry on font).
@rQvsnaps: after install that old market, did you stop market updater?
@pa.pn2: what's your app name? there's some LCD Density at market.
@shpapy: well, actually 215 is pretty good for me. Not too small, not too big (it displayed as small as my wife Ideos X5 3.7" -normal density- , but mine have extra line to view.. hey, our's is 4" ) ..
But I can't update some of my app; I know that there's some problem with installing app, but I think I can install them via web Market, just didn't think that it will prevent update too .. silly me..
So for now, I go back to 240.. hopefully there's some way for spoofing Market (or use older Market.. just wait for rQvsnaps feedback ).
Just freeze MarketUpdater.apk in Titanium backup and then uninstall updates of Market in Application manager in Android settings
Thank Rusty for this tip
gideonrs said:
hi, all..
yes, finally i've decided to edit it manually ..
215 is the best for me (well, I just try 200, 190, 215.. .. for me 200 is a little bit blurry on font).
@rQvsnaps: after install that old market, did you stop market updater?
@pa.pn2: what's your app name? there's some LCD Density at market.
@shpapy: well, actually 215 is pretty good for me. Not too small, not too big (it displayed as small as my wife Ideos X5 3.7" -normal density- , but mine have extra line to view.. hey, our's is 4" ) ..
But I can't update some of my app; I know that there's some problem with installing app, but I think I can install them via web Market, just didn't think that it will prevent update too .. silly me..
So for now, I go back to 240.. hopefully there's some way for spoofing Market (or use older Market.. just wait for rQvsnaps feedback ).
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I removed marketupdater, don't think ill be needing it anyway. Haven't had problems with apps not updating I think
Sent from my Optimus 2X using XDA App
.. I've tried that.. but still some app can't update (not shown) in My Apps.
But still can updated manually (search them & click update) rather than New Market (it's showing "Not Compatible").
For now.. I revert to 240 density.. but keep the old market .. like it better.. (faster, snappier)..
Thanks..
gideonrs said:
.. I've tried that.. but still some app can't update (not shown) in My Apps.
But still can updated manually (search them & click update) rather than New Market (it's showing "Not Compatible").
For now.. I revert to 240 density.. but keep the old market .. like it better.. (faster, snappier)..
Thanks..
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Yeh lcd density isn't advised for this phone strange though since most of the other android out there are fine with it I changed it in my old x10 pro and it was fine
Welp I guess we have to live with lunches that can draw 5x5 grids instead
Sent from my LG-P990 using XDA App
.. yeah.. for me it's not about the launcher, but for app (messages, taking notes)
I think this 4" screen should show more items than bigger items ..
Hi guys ive changed lcd density to 215 but the dockbar isnt on the right place its like it is surrounded by black border
Simply said it is to small
Any ideas?
Sry for my english^^
Sent from my LG-P990 using XDA Premium App
@selami023: what's your launcher? I use LP and all is good.
i use toppogi rom its the LG launcher also the dial pad is not shown correctly, but denisty 215 looks very good, so hopefully we will find a solution.^^
selami023
yeah, it's looks very good ...
for me, the main problem is app update from market.
using old market, I have no problem with installing any new app, but my installed app (which listed not compatible) won't update (not listed in "My Apps").
I tried a lot of lcd density changers and no one seemed to work. It's better to just edit the build.prop because that works everytime you do it (remember to restart your device after you changed it). If you really want to use an app: The only app that could change my lcd density was ROM toolbox but I recommend to change the lcd density in build.prop.
anyaway to change without have problems ins market place?
anjo88 said:
anyaway to change without have problems ins market place?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1834330
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arcee: the star, the galaxy R, and the grand X are completely different devices. different components, different resolutions, different radios, different audio amps,different panel manufacturers, different almost everything. The designs have nothing in common other than being T2
tonyp: so it's either LG or nothing?
arcee: yes

[Q] Anyone have issues with certain apps not displaying FULLY on the Notes screen?

Hi All,
As the title asks... Is anyone else having issues with apps not displaying "fully" on the screen of the Note?
I have an issue with the "Scrabble Free" game where it runs ok but it only shows the game screen in the top left corner of the screen. It is showing the WHOLE page but it is less that a quarter the size of the screen.
Can someone maybe download this game and see if its that same for you? Its free. And if anyone has other apps that they have this issue with then perhaps share them here so we can make a list of these "wonky" apps.
If you know how to fix this then please advise as well.
Thanks,
Are you on non native DPI?
I am just guessing you could be-
Latest (I guess) Camera360 doesn't run in fullscreen.
anilisanil said:
Are you on non native DPI?
I am just guessing you could be-
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No. I have not changed the DPI settings at all however I am running Darky Note ROM... Perhaps the ROM has changed my DPI settings? Everything else seems normal on the ROM though except that in the Dialer for example and in the Task Manager app - the Selection Bar that is usually in the top of the screen shows now at the bottom but I thought this may be a feature of the ROM...
What is the standard / stock DPI of the Note?
Abagnale said:
Latest (I guess) Camera360 doesn't run in fullscreen.
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Thanks for the info. Would you mind perhaps DL'ing the Scrabble game to see if it does the same for you? I have an email out to EA Games on this but have not heard back yet. Perhaps I can get them to update the game for the Note if needed so that this issue can be avoided in the future...
yiannisthegreek said:
No. I have not changed the DPI settings at all however I am running Darky Note ROM... Perhaps the ROM has changed my DPI settings? Everything else seems normal on the ROM though except that in the Dialer for example and in the Task Manager app - the Selection Bar that is usually in the top of the screen shows now at the bottom but I thought this may be a feature of the ROM...
What is the standard / stock DPI of the Note?
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The stock DPI is 320.
But if you have not modded it the chances are that it is at the stock value.
Nevertheless, install any DPI changing software from the market, they generally show the current value. if you are at 320 dpi then it most probably is the problem with the app. otherwise just change to 320 reboot and check
anilisanil said:
The stock DPI is 320.
But if you have not modded it the chances are that it is at the stock value.
Nevertheless, install any DPI changing software from the market, they generally show the current value. if you are at 320 dpi then it most probably is the problem with the app. otherwise just change to 320 reboot and check
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Thanks for the info my friend. I will check this when I get home from work tonight as I have my Galaxy Nexus with me today and my Note is at home. I will give this a try and report back here.
Adult swim app does not display fully on stock rom
guitarplayerone said:
Adult swim app does not display fully on stock rom
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Hmmmmm... Perhaps it IS an app related issue. Can you please install the Scrabble game and tell me if you have the same issue? That would be most helpful.
Thanks,
yiannisthegreek said:
Hmmmmm... Perhaps it IS an app related issue. Can you please install the Scrabble game and tell me if you have the same issue? That would be most helpful.
Thanks,
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Could you please post a link to the market?
I should mention that one of my chess clients also does not display properly. Granted chessboards are square...
It's an app issue. Various old apps have this problem.
For some apps, you can download spare parts and enable the compatibility mode.
If I do this for bonsai blast, it runs full screen but it is choppy.
guitarplayerone said:
Could you please post a link to the market?
I should mention that one of my chess clients also does not display properly. Granted chessboards are square...
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Just search "Scrabble" in the market on your device an it should come right up...
ChodTheWacko said:
It's an app issue. Various old apps have this problem.
For some apps, you can download spare parts and enable the compatibility mode.
If I do this for bonsai blast, it runs full screen but it is choppy.
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Spare Parts eh? Is that what the app is called in the market? Just "Spare Parts"?
yiannisthegreek said:
Spare Parts eh? Is that what the app is called in the market? Just "Spare Parts"?
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Iam using Spare Parts+ (Plus), It fix this problem for some apps, but some apps are not made for Note, so it will not fix them , for ex. iGO Navigation
Ibrahim keyboard a keyboard for Arabic language. .. Does not show right. .. Smaller and looks funny. .. ..
Also have some app, not the main content of the app, but just the loading is no displaying fully (Match En Direct)

Optimized DPI number on ICS ???

Hi guys,
What DPI setting give you the best overall picture and text quality ?
Thank you
This has been asked many many times, but it depends on what your personal preferences are. I actually have come to like the 160 in the latest night lies. Anything between it and 120 breaks the Play Store, unless you install some market fixes. Some enjoy 155, 145, 132. And 120. But again, check it out for yourself and see which you like.
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nbhnohome said:
Hi guys,
What DPI setting give you the best overall picture and text quality ?
Thank you
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While different people like it at different numbers, the display was specifically designed to run at 132DPI. Thing is, Android only natively supports DPIs in increments of 40 so switching to 132 breaks the market. As such most people run at 160 (Too big) or 120 (Too small).
Personally, I think 120 looks better than 160 since 160 makes the tablet look like a blown up 7" tablet, and 120 is closer to 132 than 160 is. But choose what works best for you.
Does the Play Market/Store work with 120? I can just load 120/160 packs in CWM?
Yes, either 120 or 160 work with the Play Store. Anything other than those doesn't, unless you flash the Market Fix.
132 dpi is the best for me. Resolution and readability is fantastic.
Can someone link to 132 and Market fix packs?
Is this the market fix app?
LCD modder pro works great. I went to 132 and it is fantastic. Very sharp and clean looking
Sent from my PG86100 using XDA
The modder pro app seems to work just right, does everything automatic. But there was a modified market out there that you can install manually (vending.apk) and replace the stock one. I don't know if that was ever updated with the updated Google Play version though.
I'm in 240 dpi because many games doesn't work in 120 or 160 but in this mode I havn't thé dock with menu and back button. Plz help me.
erghaize said:
I'm in 240 dpi because many games doesn't work in 120 or 160 but in this mode I havn't thé dock with menu and back button. Plz help me.
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Dont use 240, drop to 160 or below. If an application has trouble with a DPI that low it wont run properly on ANY tablet as well as some smaller phones.
Ok. But for example my girlfriend plays with The sims freeplay and I've tested all resolution and it works only in 240 dpi. My question is: can i force the control bar to display or use an app ?
I've found the solution
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1551644

[Q] ICS Stunner apps incompatible?

I've just installed the latest ics stunner rom on galaxy note everything is working great very happy but a lot of apps (most of the good ones) don't show I'n the play store and when on the play google site it says these apps are incompatible with my phone, but there not I know they work and they do if I download the apk. Google tech support say its because I'm using a custom rom :s anyone else have this problem? Any fixes? Thanks in advance for any help.
mikeyy109 said:
I've just installed the latest ics stunner rom on galaxy note everything is working great very happy but a lot of apps (most of the good ones) don't show I'n the play store and when on the play google site it says these apps are incompatible with my phone, but there not I know they work and they do if I download the apk. Google tech support say its because I'm using a custom rom :s anyone else have this problem? Any fixes? Thanks in advance for any help.
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You running on stock DPI ? 320 or 240 or 160(tablet)mode?
Thanks for quick reply. Im currently running on 200 as seems to work best but I have tryed all settings with full reboot/market data clear etc with no change.
Edit: it seems no one else has this problem, maybe its the chain fire ics repack that's causing the problem? I can't think of any other reasons, is there a newer version of this firmware?
Basically, the market (I refuse to call it "play store") is crap. In Euphoria Control set both dpi settings to 240, reboot, clear market data, reboot, and then you should be able to use the market. I never managed to make it work with DPI other that 240 for more than a day before it craps out again.
There are also hacked vending.apk versions that work with any DPI setting, but they tend to have problems, like not allowing to buy apps.
mikeyy109 said:
Thanks for quick reply. Im currently running on 200 as seems to work best but I have tryed all settings with full reboot/market data clear etc with no change.
Edit: it seems no one else has this problem, maybe its the chain fire ics repack that's causing the problem? I can't think of any other reasons, is there a newer version of this firmware?
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Market recognizes the apps and device based on the DPI. Use the stock dpi values like 320, 240 or 160 to get apps. After every dpi change and reboot remember to clear the market data. After installing the apps you can switch to the dpi u choose to!! This is the limitation of market and not the rom!
Cheers!
Thank you for this useful information, Abhi.
(Well, it's good manners for someone to say thanks, isn't it?)
Thank you very much I have sorted the problem sticking to 160 dpi with the phone fc fix is working great, I now have all apps accessible thanks everyone

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