I am very new to the forum and to rooting in general, so please forgive my ignorance...
I have a rooted revo running stock rom zv7 and in order to stop the zv8 updates, I uninstalled software update 1.0 using titanium backup. In retrospect I should have frozen...I am unable to restore the app and would like to in order to try updating with the new All-in-one package...
I would appreciate any feedback. Thanks!
You'd have to use LGNPST to re-install the ZV7 rom or just install the ZV8 whichever you want to do. But if you want to maintain root in ZV8 install ZV7.
Thanks.
I have downloaded the software, but I am still confused by the instructions. Is there a basic guide or should I just muddle through? I think I may be beyond my abilities here...
Here, try following these instructions.
Install the software that pops up when you plug in your phone.
Get the LGNPST Package with the GenericModels and Components Plug-In:
LGNSPT
Get the driver for the phone and install it:
Get the Stock Rom TOT file and extract it.
Get the DLL file specifically for the Revolution:
Extract the "LGNPST Store & Lab"
Install the following order:
LGNPSTv1.2_Store_Version.msi
LGNPST_v1.2_Lab_Version.msi
Components >> LGNPST_Components_Ver_5_0_12_0.msi
GenericModels >> LGNPST_GenericModels_Ver_5_0_10_0.msi
Run "Right_Click_Register_DLL.reg"
Make a new folder called "Models" in the program's directory
Default: "C:\LG Electronics\LGNPST\"
Grab the "VS910.dll" and put it in the "Models" folder.
Right Click "VS910.dll" and click on Install/Register.
Note: DLL WILL NOT INSTALL UNLESS COMPONENTS AND GENERICMODELS PLUG-INS ARE INSTALLED!!!
IF YOU CANNOT INSTALL IT ON A RIGHT CLICK GO TO "C:\Windows\System32" and drag the VS910.dll on "regsvr32" and it should install.
Make sure you install it properly
REBOOT!!
Run "LGNPST"
Plug in your phone, use Internet Connection Mode,and enable USB Debugging.
Phone should pop up in the list
Select the phone and click on the Open folder button inside the .BIN query underneath the COM## details.
Since it wants a .bin file, you can open the .TOT file by typing "*.*" inside the File Name query and hitting Enter
Select the TOT file for your stock ROM and Click OK
Then click on Upgrade
Wait a few minutes
Voila
I'm currently following these steps atm since I'm reverting back to stock ZV7 then updating to ZV8
Thanks again. These are the instructions that I found earlier. I guess that's about as simple as it can get. I'll give it a try and see what happens...
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Thanks again. These are the instructions that I found earlier. I guess that's about as simple as it can get. I'll give it a try and see what happens...
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If you have Windows 7 64-Bit you'll most likely end up in a problem like I just did where it won't register which there's a fix in General.
I was able to successfully recover the stock and update zv8. I haven't been able to root yet, but I found the forum that covers this. Thanks so much for your help; the instructions were much easier to follow with the downloads/software in front of me.
Thanks again!
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Is there a one click program to enable sideloading on JH7?
If not can anyone please link me to instructions on how to do it?
Search for "One Click Decripple"
Added: You have to be rooted to use it.
Swyping...please read slowly!
i downloaded the zip and stuck it on the sdcard...renamed to update.zip and tried to install it within recovery and it kept saying that update.zip wasn't found
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i downloaded the zip and stuck it on the sdcard...renamed to update.zip and tried to install it within recovery and it kept saying that update.zip wasn't found
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One Click Decripple is a windows program that changes the database file for you. You don't put it on your phone.
"I have developed One Click De-cripple to enable installation of non-market on the Captivate with one click. While many of you may be saying that Android Central's Sideload Wonder Machine already does this, my program will make a persistent change to enable non-market app installation without being attached to a computer. OCD was developed in Visual Studio 2010, therefore prerequisites will be that the USB drivers already be installed, that .NET 4.0 be installed, and the phone is already rooted. If you have not yet rooted your phone, I recommend "Samsung Galaxy S One Click Root" by TGA_Gunnman."
okay im trying to root my phone i already downloaded the driver to sync to my cpu and the downloaded the rooting file change it to update and copied it to my phone. i downloaded the sdk file and extracted it to my c drive as c:/androidsdk. i did everting it ask me to opened up the command promt and entered cd first changedirectory space the entered c:/androidsdk/tools as it tells me to but says this the program cant find the path specified..can anyone tell me wat im doin wrong and y its not bein recognized thanks in advanced
Re-check your path. When I installed it looked like this:
c:\android-sdk_r06-windows\android-sdk-windows\tools
YMMV
PS ... note they are backslashes not forward slashed in the path
Q: still having a problem rooting my captivate
i switched it up to the backlash and it still saying no path detected...it wont enen let me root my phone saying file is not there i downloaded the root file extract it to my c drive n renamed it update i got windows 7 i then copied it to my phone...downloaded the android sdk file extracted it to my c drive.opened up the command and put in the codes and it tells me it cant find the path..am i downloading the file wrong extracting it to the wrong file??? plz help
I do it the lazy way, take the tools folder and copy it directly to C:
So it would be,
cd C:\tools
adb blah blah blah
That's an easier path to remember.
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I do it the lazy way, take the tools folder and copy it directly to C:
So it would be,
cd C:\tools
adb blah blah blah
That's an easier path to remember.
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That works too ...
My point was it's clear the OP has the path wrong. Actually finding the tools folder in Windows Explorer is obviously the first step.
Also, anything he is trying to push via ADB has to be in the tools folder as well if memory serves.
Of course there is an easier way to root ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8914844&postcount=2
i tried everyting...i tried even just rooting the phone by itself and rooting it with the android sdk file and it keeps sayin cant find file or no file found..i dont know what else i can do this seems so simple fellow evry directions but my phone just doesnt want to take. i even tried the one-click root and that wont work saying cant find sdcard.. im lost and getting frustrated with this..any other suggestions and thanks again for your help
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i tried everyting...i tried even just rooting the phone by itself and rooting it with the android sdk file and it keeps sayin cant find file or no file found..i dont know what else i can do this seems so simple fellow evry directions but my phone just doesnt want to take. i even tried the one-click root and that wont work saying cant find sdcard.. im lost and getting frustrated with this..any other suggestions and thanks again for your help
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Don't know what to tell you. Following the instructions in the post I linked to above is the easiest way I know of how to root, and has worked every time I've tried it.
If you can get into download mode, then maybe try re-flashing to stock with Odin One Click and see if that helps any. Or re-install your drivers.
So, you cant even copy and paste from your pc to phone via usb mass storage?
Use your phone, go to dev section, find unleash the beast or super rooter extreme, download either and place the update.zip on the root of your sd card using My Files or whatever. Reboot your phone into recovery and reinstall packages. There, youre rooted. Dont forget to delete the update.zip if you plan to use CWM.
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ok great i finally after two days of trying to figure out what was wrong got it to root..i deleted all root files and my samsung kies device from my computer and started over. searched one click root and brought me here to a link with a video great vid by the way goes step by step. now that i got root on my phone any suggestings on what to do next..how do i load blocked apps to my phone now? i loaded app installer does that work? and do u got any links to loading a adobe flash player 10 app? thanks
also im gonna need the android sdk file to do any sideloading right? how can i do this since i have alredy rooted my phone? thanks again
swift21 said:
ok great i finally after two days of trying to figure out what was wrong got it to root..i deleted all root files and my samsung kies device from my computer and started over. searched one click root and brought me here to a link with a video great vid by the way goes step by step. now that i got root on my phone any suggestings on what to do next..how do i load blocked apps to my phone now? i loaded app installer does that work? and do u got any links to loading a adobe flash player 10 app? thanks
also im gonna need the android sdk file to do any sideloading right? how can i do this since i have alredy rooted my phone? thanks again
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You can use Sideload Wonder Machine or the Android SDK to sideload.
With the Android SDK, you just put whatever apk you want to load into the 'tools' folder and use the adb install filename.apk command.
Like i said, check the dev section for SRE or unleash the beast. One update.zip that does it all, root, bloatware removal, sideloading, etc.
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Like i said, check the dev section for SRE or unleash the beast. One update.zip that does it all, root, bloatware removal, sideloading, etc.
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i dont know where or what dev section on my phone is..im a newbie to the android community do u have a link or can u tell me how to do it..thanks
swift21 said:
i dont know where or what dev section on my phone is..im a newbie to the android community do u have a link or can u tell me how to do it..thanks
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There is a Captivate Android Development section right here at XDA.
swift21 said:
i dont know where or what dev section on my phone is..im a newbie to the android community do u have a link or can u tell me how to do it..thanks
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What startngate said. Here in the captivate forum there is android developement, do a search for super rooter or unleash the beast. All the steps to run it are there. Works really well if you just want a stock rom with root and some other goodies. If you want custom roms i encourage you to read through the threads before doing anything.
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I use this one to keep it simple.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
And I think it has the update.zip file in it... so if that application doesn't work.. you can just install the update.zip into your sdcard - reboot into recovery and install update.zip from there.
You don't need the SDK - just need to make sure your phone can be seen by your computer. I've used it on both an XP and Win7 64-bit machine at home and it works great.
To "side-load" applications - you can use the wonder machine... or place the *.apk file on your SDCard and use MyFiles or your favorite file explorer to browse to it and it should install just fine.
I'm testing my phone out with a stock ROM - and I'm rooted/sideload avail and even have a lagfix installed with all of my apps installed in under 15-20 minutes... it is a pretty simple process to root this thing nowdays
I found how for the X2 but the instructions dont work for the Revolution.
Anyone know the way to stop it?
Thanks
Using root explorer goto /system/lib/libdme_main and add .bak to the end of it. You will keep bluetooth and no more update. Make sure you do NOT mess with anything else!
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I deleted that file (adding.bak sounds much better) and it has gone away, just like mtmichaelson said.
Sweet thank. Ya on my droid 2 i stopped a bunch of stuff and just did the .bak so if i need it later i can just change it back.
Thanks
Just to double check, this works on revo phone.
When I acess file it has .so file type do I change .so to bak?
I just added .bak after the .so
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Revolt - LTE
I'm not sure if this is related, but I noticed that after I flashed Revolt 1.3, I never see the "LTE" symbol in my notification bar. I'm in an LTE area, so I know it's available--does that mean my phone isn't running LTE anymore or is the symbol just not showing up on this ROM? I apologize in advance if this is a ridiculously misguided question--I'm new here and learning as I go.
By the way, mtmichaelson--I said this before and I'll say it again--awesome ROM! Thanks again for your hard work.
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Using root explorer goto /system/lib/libdme_main and add .bak to the end of it. You will keep bluetooth and no more update. Make sure you do NOT mess with anything else!
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will this also work for the updated Revolution (2.2.2)?
Thanks in advance
ally3447 said:
will this also work for the updated Revolution (2.2.2)?
Thanks in advance
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Yes it does
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Yes it does
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So, right now it is a .so file. Do I just add .bak to it, or change it from .so to .bak?
(Just want to be extra sure.)
Also,I would like to root my phone. I found a way that someone rooted theirs with their 2.2.2. Do you think I should root first, then change the file so it doesn't update? Or does it matter?
by the way, Here is the root I found(sorry it's a bit long):
"How to root your OTA Updated Revo:
This method requires you to downgrade your phone back to the V4 stock version. As of now, there seems to be no root process for the V6 update. This method has worked for me and I am also on a custom ROM that has been said to have some, if not most of the V6 updates included without the bloatware.
Step One:
- Be sure to get the following files:
---- LG VZW_United_WHQL_v1.2.0.exe
---- LGAndroidDriver_Ver_1.0_All.exe
---- LGNPST_Store_Lab-1.zip
---- VS910.dll (required to use LGNPST_Store_Lab-1.zip)
---- VS910ZV4_04.S4_04.P58008.R5.user.tot
---- RevoToolkit-1.0.apk (This is untested by me but supposed to provide an easier method to install CWM mod vs the ADB method)
---- SuperOneClickv2.1.1-ShortFuse (Includes the needed ADB program)
---- rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin (The exploit needed to root revo, not necessarily found with SuperOneCLick)
---- RevoltRom1.3.zip (This is optional, but recommended to speed up your revo and also to comply with the original topic of this thread. It 'seems' to stop the OTA from 'trying' the update since it includes updated features. NOTE that I said 'seems'... Other things I did may be the actual result I haven't seen the OTA try to install...
Ok, so to start, you will want to be sure that you have the drivers on your computer (I'm using windows 7 x64), so that is what this method has proven to work on by me.
Be sure to install:
- LG VZW_United_WHQL_v1.2.0.exe
- LGAndroidDriver_Ver_1.0_All.exe
Both may not be required, but I have both installed and things worked.
Then you will need to install:
- LGNPST_Store_Lab-1.zip
- VS910.dll (This is just copied into the folder LGNPST/Models. My install put the LGNPST program in C:\LG Electronics, not c:\Program Files (x68)... )
- You will run the LGNPST program, select the VS910.dll via Menu: File --> Select DLL.
- Then, in the bottom right of the LGNPST program, select BIN File (folder icon) to load the 'bin'.
--- This will require you to enter *.* in order to find the .tot file. Don't worry, this .tot file is what you need in the LGNPST Program.
- Once loaded and your phone is connected and recognized (Phone must be in 'Internet USB Mode'), hit the Start Button. This will begin the process of restoring your phone back to V4.
After that has completed, which takes a while, you will then need the SuperClick program to root.
- Copy, or verify, the rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin file is located in the Exploits folder where you extraced SuperOneClick.
- Run SuperOneClick, Select the exploit pull down (which defaults to 'auto') and select the rageagainstthecage option.
- Press the Root button and let it do its thing.
--- If it fails, this is what I had to do.. Reboot your phone. While it is rebooting, have the SuperOneClick program ready and waiting for you to hit Root again. As soon as the LG Logo becomes animated, hit Root and let it try again (While it is rebooting). This seemed to get the read/write options to work, where failed. This possibly is part of the update that is sticking around to stop you from rooting. So, try a few times. If/when succeeded, move on to the next steps if you wish to have some of the update 'fixes' without the update and a faster custom ROM...
To install a ROM, you need to have CWM installed.
Two methods to doing so seem to exist:
- The method I used was at this link: [RELEASE][6-14-2011] CWM Ported to the Revolution 4G! - xda-developers
Follow that and you should have a backup original image and the new image to get CWM to work to install custom ROMs
- The OTHER method, which is UNTESTED by me, is to use a simple tool called RevoToolKit, which is and APK file that runs directly on your phone. If it works, which others seem to say it does, this would be the most simple form of installing CWM to your phone. Be aware that this app is small, but uses a downloader to install CWM, so you want to make sure you have a good internet connection or data connection...
After that, you will want to follow the directions for CWM (ClockWorkMod) at this link:
- [Rom][8-17-11]Revolt Rom 1.3 - xda-developers
After all that, you should have a rooted Revo AFTER you managed to do the update.
I included links to some instructions in order to shorten up this post and not 'copy' someone else's methods and be sure that you can give the credit to them. The only credit I deserve for this is a complete step-by-step, in one place procedure to get you back or to root your Revo if you did the update.
In time, I am sure that there will be a simpler way to root the OTA Update, but until then, this is working for me and hope that this helps clear up some issues for others that find it tough to get back to root after the OTA Update."
It then has the file links, but I cannot post them since I am a newb.
Thanks again!
I don't see a way for you to change the file from .so to .so.bak without having root as far a rooting you only have to downgrade if your phone its v6 if out is running v4 all you need to do is root it
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Is there a way to do this without buying root explorer? I have bloat freezer so is there anything I can just freeze?
Thank You
*EDIT* just bought root explorer for $.99 through Amazon Appstore for those who still need it.
I'm on V4 and rooted back from V6 but it does not let me rename due to it being a read only file? sooo how do I add the bak? opened it with root explorer and it requested superuser privileges and I ok'ed it but when I go to /system/lib/libdme_main.so and try to rename it, it won't let me.
Sleepykat said:
I'm on V4 and rooted back from V6 but it does not let me rename due to it being a read only file? sooo how do I add the bak? opened it with root explorer and it requested superuser privileges and I ok'ed it but when I go to /system/lib/libdme_main.so and try to rename it, it won't let me.
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On the top right of root explorer is a "Mount R/W" button. Click that and it should let you make changes to the system.
Hope it helps
"Home-Less and Iconic"
Thanks a bunch . That worked! I had pushed it at the system level. Didn't pay attention that I had to do it at the folder I'm in.
Sleepykat said:
Thanks a bunch . That worked! I had pushed it at the system level. Didn't pay attention that I had to do it at the folder I'm in.
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Glad to help.
"Home-Less and Iconic"
I've looked and I couldn't find a direct solution, so I'm going to give birth to this thread.
Problem: I want (and have problems downloading) the OTA Ice Cream Sandwich update on my rooted Verizon Motorola Droid 4
I rooted my phone awhile back. Just today I received a message that the system update was available.
-I am able to download the update.
-I am able to begin installing the update.
-During the installation process, the yellow progress indication bar fills about 1/8 of the way, then I get the ! warning sign above the little android figure.
Here's what I've done so far to try and correct this problem:
-Restarted my phone
-Restarted my computer
-Downloaded and installed the latest Motorola drivers from the official Motorola website.
-I attempted* to un-root my phone using the Droid 4 Utility 0.4.
--I should note that in the log, there was a like that read:
rm failed for /data/app/com.noshufou.android.su-1.apk, No such file or directory
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-Restarted my phone again
-Tried installing the update with still no luck
*It appears that all the Droid 4 Utility did was remove Superuser, though I could be wrong. However, if this is the case, I still have a rooted device.
Once again, I'd prefer to have the OTA update, and not a leaked/rooted version of ICS. There's a possibility I didn't unroot my phone all the way. Am I doing this right?
Thanks in advance for the help.
ICS hasn't been officially released for the D4 yet.
This morning when I woke up I received an "Update available" notification. I am able to download an update for my phone. After downloading the update, I receive another notification:
"Install update
Update (6.13.219.en.US) has been downloaded and is ready to install.
Installation will take up to 10 minutes. Upon completion the phone will power off than back on.."
So it absolutely did not occur to you that this is the "219" update which can be found in this (General) section as well as in the Android development section .
Please do take a look in the topics mentioning "update" or "219". You will find topics for rooted and stock phones regarding the 219 update and how to proceed.
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So it absolutely did not occur to you that this is the "219" update which can be found in this (General) section as well as in the Android development section .
Please do take a look in the topics mentioning "update" or "219". You will find topics for rooted and stock phones regarding the 219 update and how to proceed.
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Thanks for your help. I'm slightly inexperienced. I was so excited when I saw the system update that I suspected it to be ICS. Albeit, my hunt continues.
it failed because u altered system files of some kind... its happening to me too. i downloaded the stock system app zip from here in hopes to replace the system apk's so the update will go through but i dont know how to replace the system files... is it as simple as copy and paste, do u have to copy it to the sd card then use a file explorer to copy and overwrite over the files? i dont want to mess something up
I did modify the build file in root/system in order to install a certain APP from the Google Play Store, but I made sure I went and reversed all of the changes I made. Could you please post where you got this file from?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1608866&page=3
Stensin said:
I did modify the build file in root/system in order to install a certain APP from the Google Play Store, but I made sure I went and reversed all of the changes I made. Could you please post where you got this file from?
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The original post has also been updated with a link to the original files, as well as more complete instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1608866
omniuni said:
The original post has also been updated with a link to the original files, as well as more complete instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1608866
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but how do u copy those files from NOTE 2? i downloaded the file, extracted the files but i cant copy them to the system folder
copy them to your phone via usb, make sure you are rooted, and CAREFULLY COPY them using a root explorer. You can get a good one from AntTek for free on the Play Store.
I tried that.. copied the files to the sd card. I can see them when i browse the sd card via the computer but when i unplug the cord they arent there anymore. Would replacing the stock boot animation via rom manager have anything to do with the fail?
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remember that the "sd card" the computer sees is the phone's internal storage. your actual sd card, as the computer sees it, is referred to by the phone as "sd-ext" or "external sd card" usually.
I did the samething, I changed two files and got help from this forum to get the originals. I use es file explorer in root and copied the files to where they need to be. I checked the permissions and rebulit the checksum for each file. After that I used voodoo to save my root. I rebooted instal from sdcard and it worked. hope this helps.
well it wasnt an app that i deleted.. i was reading somewhere about the build.prop file being messed up from using rom manager so i downloaded a new copy and pasted it over the old one and the update went through! thanks everyone!
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well it wasnt an app that i deleted.. i was reading somewhere about the build.prop file being messed up from using rom manager so i downloaded a new copy and pasted it over the old one and the update went through! thanks everyone!
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I tried doing this, but it didn't work. Could you post the build.prop file that you used?
EDIT:
I was copying my build.prop file incorrectly. More details here.
Hi
First post here, I'm new to Android and rooting but I know my way around computer systems in general so hoping you guys can help me, haven't seen a thread about this exact problem so far.
I've semi-bricked (bootlooped) my Samsung Galaxy Ace running Gingerbread, having rooted it last month using the upd_1 package and enjoying a bloatware-free phone, happily installing apps onto my second partition on my SD card. I've not changed my ROM, just the stock is good enough for me for now. However I was getting continually prompted by Homescreen Selector nags at powering up for some reason and I thought I could disable it by applying Freeze using LInk2SD, but since doing that I continually get the Samsung logo, the orange "explosion" (I'm with Orange) then a vibration and the whole cycle repeats. My guess is the operating system can't find the selector.apk app since I froze it.
I thought the solution would be simple - use adb shell to rename back from selector.fro to selector.apk. However I'm unable to find any such file in my system/app folder. There are a load of other apk and odex files but not that one. When I type su I get "permission denied", though I definitely rooted my phone but I don't think I have my bootloader unlocked.
I don't have CWM installed or any backups unfortunately (yes, I know...), so even if I took one now prior to a factory reset, surely the same problem would come back if I were to restore from any backup I were to take now. I can get into Recovery and Download screens ok but don't want to restore the whole ROM unless I have to, since I know it's only one APK that is at fault.
So, please can anyone tell me how to locate the selector.fro file to turn it back to selector.apk? Or can't I do that without unlocking the bootloader first, or is there another solution?
Many thanks in advance,
Graham
Wouldnt it be possible to make a zip of the selector.apk and flash it? Rename the zip-file to "update" (since you're unable to browse to your specific file).
QNBT said:
Wouldnt it be possible to make a zip of the selector.apk and flash it? Rename the zip-file to "update" (since you're unable to browse to your specific file).
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Hi, thanks for the response
Do you mean copy a zip of selector.apk to the SD card and run it from there, same as I did when I rooted? Where can I obtain a copy of that apk from? I can't find it on my computer or via Google...
gkey2112 said:
Hi, thanks for the response
Do you mean copy a zip of selector.apk to the SD card and run it from there, same as I did when I rooted? Where can I obtain a copy of that apk from? I can't find it on my computer or via Google...
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You can extract it from the ROM's zip file, just locate it as you would on your phone.
But I don't have a ROM zip file. I'm not using a custom ROM, just stock. I may go down the custom ROM route one day, but for now I just want my phone to work again in the quickest way possible.
All I need is a copy of the original stock home selector APK. Can anyone help here please?
Found the file!
Never mind, got the apk from another thread. Flashing tonight...