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I hope I can help you people wondering about battery times by posting this log I made.
For the last three days I have been running Juiceplotter in order to get some actual data to compare. I put together two screenshots in order to show the full battery cycle for three days of normal use.
It starts 08.30 wednesday morning and stops again at 12.30 saturday(today).
Since I got my Optimus 2X on April 1th the battery has been lasting full days without saving.
I will try to give a short explanation of my days and phone settings, below the graph.
EDIT: Great... I cant post outside links...see attached file instead...
Wednesday: Out from 9-15(No wifi). The two back holes during the day is me rooting and backing up my phone. The green line in the bottom of the graph indicates when the phone was connected to the computer and thus charging a little. At night I was out again(no wifi) around 20-22.
Thursday: Out from 9-20(no wifi). Demonstrating/Showing off my phone to a friend with DHD. Used GPS/Navigation 3-4 times to find my way. 5-10 minutes each time.
Friday: Home(Wifi all day). Forgot to turn on my phone between 12:15 and 13:15. Played Dungeon Defenders HD from 19.45 to 21.00 which uses A LOT of battery, roughly -0.5%/min.
Saturday: At home(wifi). Standbydrain test for 3½ hours, battery still indicating 100%.
My settings are in Danish and the translation is rubbish, so I hope you guys can help me out with the right menu names in case I got them wrong.
Backgrounddata ON, Auto. Sync ON, Whatsapp sync ON, Google Acc. sync ON, Facebook Off.
SmartShare OFF(What is it?), Mobile Data ON. Only Use 2G-Network OFF. My Location - Wifi ON. Automatic Screen Brightness ON, Screen Timeout 30s.
I use Gmail, Google Calender, Dropbox, Evernote and Whatsapp, the only apps I can imagine would use background data.
I switch on Wifi, Bluetooth, GPS and Rotate Screen when I need it. Wifi is always on when im at home.
I use Go Launcher EX and Widget Locker instead of LG stock stuff(Doubt that they help SAVE battery..)
I hope this is helpful to some of you!
Hello, i use Dalingrin's kernel (6/30) and CM7 nightlies (121 currently).
Sometimes deep sleep is nice for my battery, sometimes it doesn't save energy.
It's life but i need a few days between battery charging.
so i decided to add a few workarounds, here they are:
1. Airplane mode everytime + wifi on/off when i need it. Only ten seconds to activate/deactivate with CM7 status bar.
2. Battery widget monitor: it enables history of battery consuming. Very good to act that deep sleep is effective or not.
3. uninstall applications which sychronize when nook should be sleeping: K9, DSPmanager, hotapps, appbrainz.
3. Advanced task killer pro: Crazy mode when screen is off. Very nice for last applications.
Of course, you are welcome to comment those tricks and to add some
I guess it depends on use, but I'm on day 3 on a charge, running at 47%. I just have the screen at 15% most of the time, and I don't disable sync. I mostly do reader, email, internet, so that might be part of my success.
sebanoel said:
Hello, i use Dalingrin's kernel (6/30) and CM7 nightlies (121 currently).
Sometimes deep sleep is nice for my battery, sometimes it doesn't save energy.
It's life but i need a few days between battery charging.
so i decided to add a few workarounds, here they are:
1. Airplane mode everytime + wifi on/off when i need it. Only ten seconds to activate/deactivate with CM7 status bar.
2. Battery widget monitor: it enables history of battery consuming. Very good to act that deep sleep is effective or not.
3. uninstall applications which sychronize when nook should be sleeping: K9, DSPmanager, hotapps, appbrainz.
3. Advanced task killer pro: Crazy mode when screen is off. Very nice for last applications.
Of course, you are welcome to comment those tricks and to add some
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1 is probably not a good idea, since sometimes Airplane mode sticks.
2 has nothing to do with saving battery, but okay..
3a does nothing if there is no network connection (assuming sanely written programs)
3b is stupid and shouldn't ever be used.
You want to save battery? Turn off wifi when the screen goes off. You can do this automatically with Setting Profile Lite or Tasker, probably some others. I've found that the wifi sleep setting doesn't do anything for me, I can continue to ping the NC for 10+ minutes after the screen goes off so clearly the wifi is still up.
And watch Spare Parts partial wake locks and see if you have any misbehaving apps. I find that Maps with Latitude enabled misbehaves without a network connection and constantly is trying to update or something, so I cleared data on Maps to get out of Latitude on that device. CPUSpy will also show you how much deep sleep is ongoing.
The NC is going to use at least 10%/hr at low backlight doing simple tasks, I've seen it use up to 25% overclocked playing games.
While asleep it uses about 1% every 3-4 hours. Could probably do even better if you don't have a boatload of apps and widgets like I do.
Grab "Where's my Droid's Power" or whatever the application is called, and see where all the power is going.
khaytsus said:
1 is probably not a good idea, since sometimes Airplane mode sticks.
2 has nothing to do with saving battery, but okay..
3a does nothing if there is no network connection (assuming sanely written programs)
3b is stupid and shouldn't ever be used.
You want to save battery? Turn off wifi when the screen goes off. You can do this automatically with Setting Profile Lite or Tasker, probably some others. I've found that the wifi sleep setting doesn't do anything for me, I can continue to ping the NC for 10+ minutes after the screen goes off so clearly the wifi is still up.
And watch Spare Parts partial wake locks and see if you have any misbehaving apps. I find that Maps with Latitude enabled misbehaves without a network connection and constantly is trying to update or something, so I cleared data on Maps to get out of Latitude on that device. CPUSpy will also show you how much deep sleep is ongoing.
The NC is going to use at least 10%/hr at low backlight doing simple tasks, I've seen it use up to 25% overclocked playing games.
While asleep it uses about 1% every 3-4 hours. Could probably do even better if you don't have a boatload of apps and widgets like I do.
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He said the battery widget is to see if it is asleep, and see what the consumption is like.
Hello,
You are right about battery logging.
i have to test the two applications you mention both:
1. "And watch Spare Parts partial wake locks and see if you have any misbehaving app"
2. "Where's my droid power".
I've always had my data on in all my phones.. .I got fed up of the gnote's battery life so I decided to turn it off when I was not using it and God I was surprised, I watched a whole movie and played that train game and I lost only about 15 -20% of my juice.....
so today I turned off my data and WiFi before i went to sleep and when I woke up 6 hours later I had only lost 1%
that has never happened before...
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wifi has been known to be a great battery hogger on the note, interestingly enough it should be the other way around
as for the data, the phone works extra hard in lower signal areas to boost reception, hence drinking juice
I always disable wifi and data when I'm not using them.
I use the Go Power Master widget to switch between different profiles I have set up for wifi, mobile data, wifi with autosynch and no data.
There are other widgets that do the same thing. Just saves you having to toggle each setting separately.
If I stay connected with wifi, it's not too bad, but if I move out of a wifi area, and leave it on, it seems to drain battery faster (I'm guessing because it keeps rescanning for connections?).
I have somwhere describe this
Any way you will find this solutione better.
Use phoneweaver, you can describe the time, it will stop data at defned time, as well switch on too at your describe time. So if you set data off time just after your time to sleep, N switch on time just b4 your wake up time, you even need not to bother do do it manually
same way this can be triggered by location too, you can switch on/off data/wifi at perticular place.
And there are lot action you can set.
agree to rechlum if you are connected to wi-fi is consume less battery thn you are connected to net with 3G, N keep wifi open with connected to data is draining battery too fast.
could it all mean that I wasted a lot of time trying to reduce my battery consumption with WiFi on?
so far by disabling the unnecessary apps strartups (Autorun Manager) and turning off non-essential syncs I was able to get down to ca. 7mA (Battery Monitor Widget estimates) in standby mode, BUT only when WiFi is off.
When it's on, the power consumption stays at ca. 60mA in standby mode, which is something I cannot comprehed - using CyanogenMod on my previous device I was able to stay below 15mA regardless of WiFi state.
Turning off data is pretty stupid. I don`t about you but my phone is actively working in the background.
checking email every 5mins
gmail syncing
facebook notifications
twiter syncing
Linkedin updates
ebay notification
3G data monitoring
weather updates every 30mins
Latitude monitoring
stocks updates
sports scores updates every 1min with your choice of espn, score mobile, fox sports...
bottom line is gotta use a smartphone as a smartphone. With data turned off notifications are not happening.
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Turning off data is pretty stupid. I don`t about you but my phone is actively working in the background.
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If I know I'm not going to be looking at my phone for a while, it's not much use wasting battery having wifi or 3G turned on.
I'm a teacher, so I often have 3-4 hour blocks of time that I won't touch my phone.
I just turn wifi or data back on when I'm ready and my updates still come through when I'm ready to view them. Any updates that might have come through if I had left data enabled, I wouldn't have seen any earlier...
If I'm watching a movie I'll often switch off data because I know I won't be looking at my phone for 2 hours.
I don't see how conserving the battery is "stupid".
One could argue that leaving data enabled when you aren't in a position to use it is "stupid"...
Just out of curiosity, is there some pre-made application that allows me to turn data and wifi off after 5-10 minutes after then screen has been turned off and then turn both back on when the screen is turned on? Or should I just code it myself?
WereCatf said:
Just out of curiosity, is there some pre-made application that allows me to turn data and wifi off after 5-10 minutes after then screen has been turned off and then turn both back on when the screen is turned on? Or should I just code it myself?
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there's an option in Settings / WiFi Settings / Menu key to turn WiFi off when screen is off,
besides that there was one to do exactly what you need, but cannot remeber it's name, if you don't find anything satisfactory then try Lama - it has quite a large range of location-based triggers
Leaving wifi on when you're not using is awful. It completely prevents the phone from going to deep sleep.
I get awesome battery life simply by leaving wifi on only when the screen is on. My battery ranges from 18 hours to 1 day and 23 hours, depending on my use (temple run )
WereCatf said:
Just out of curiosity, is there some pre-made application that allows me to turn data and wifi off after 5-10 minutes after then screen has been turned off and then turn both back on when the screen is turned on? Or should I just code it myself?
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Greenpower will do exactly that. You can set it up so it turns off wifi and 3G/data after a set amount of time after turning off the screen and turn it back on when the screen is turned on. You can have it sync once every n minutes/hours so you still get Whatsapp, emails and other stuff without having to turn on the screen.
It's working like a charm for me, before I used to lose 15 to 20% every night, now with the same usage I've only lost 30% in 67 hours.
just_visiting said:
Turning off data is pretty stupid. I don`t about you but my phone is actively working in the background.
checking email every 5mins
gmail syncing
facebook notifications
twiter syncing
Linkedin updates
ebay notification
3G data monitoring
weather updates every 30mins
Latitude monitoring
stocks updates
sports scores updates every 1min with your choice of espn, score mobile, fox sports...
bottom line is gotta use a smartphone as a smartphone. With data turned off notifications are not happening.
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Everybody has different needs. If you need all this and to be aware of what i going on in your no-doubt busy social life, then you can do this.
On the other hand, it is utterly useless if you are not going to pick up the phone and see what the weather is (instead of looking out the window) and who is doing what on Facebook (or writing things in Facebook instead of actually doing things) as soon as it beeps at you. In those situations, turning of data will save battery with no loss of information.
Personally I love a 'pull' digital life, rather than a 'push' one. I have far too much to be getting on with to be constantly hassled.
Of course, in actually writing this, I am proving myself completely wrong, but what the hey?
I only care about my Google+ account and my e-mails, everything else matters only when I personally decide to check it. As such I've set my phone to turn data back on every 30 minutes, sync e-mails and Google+, and then turn data back off again.
I use Timeriffic (free from Market/Play) to disable Wifi/Data etc based on time of day.
I don't really care about emails when I'm sleeping!
A must have application IMO.
I'm running pure stock rom, no rooting, no updating, V10E just bought it less than a week ago.
This is the apps I have installed:
2G-3G toggle widget
Android live wallpapers
Aptoide
Bs Player
CamScanner
Dropbox
Chrome UPdates
Epic Citadel
Flashlight
Go Launcher EX
Go SMS pro
GPS fix deluxe
Moon+ Reader
Onavo Count
Onavo Extend
Opera MIni
QuickPic
Screen Filter
Shush! Ringer Restorer
Simple Mp3 Downloader
Thumb Keyboard
Viber
Whatsapp
Now I tried the following two things with my phone:
For the first night, I left it at 2G only, with autosync disabled, and wifi,bluetooth,gps etc. off. All above apps were running, viber and whatsapp included, and obviously with no autosync, Gmail was not, so only the Email app that comes with android was running and checking email. In one night, it drained no more than 6%, over 8 hours.
The second night; again 2G only, and everything off, except for autosync, which I set to sync gmail only, and disabled the native Email app. In 6 hours overnight, battery drained 10%. This does not make sense for me, why would gmail drain so much battery?
Next, while I can live with those stand-by times, what is wierd is that while using the phone, the battery drains at unbelievable rates. I leave it mostly on 2G, barely using 3G every now and again. This morning, I left the house with 90% battery. charged it on my way to uni with the car, then when I got there played some games and a few songs for maybe 15 mins, then my friend came and we goofed around taking a video with the effects for a few minutes not more than 5. THen I went on for my lesson, took about 15 photos with no flash, with CamScanner and organized them into documents, then used regularly my phone to send texts, whatsapp and viber, then browsed the web for maybe 10 mins on 3G. By 12 o' clock, my phone was nearly dead (10%)! This does not seem normal to me, even though the standby times range from excellent, to acceptable it seems like the phone uses an enormous amount of battery when in use generally.The brightness varied from about 10% indoors, to 80% when outdoors. (most use was indoors). To make the time clear, I got to uni at 6.30 am, and while using the phone and games the phone was still connected to the car charger.
I have not done any modification to the phone. NO updates, no root (which I heard causes battery drain) no nothing.
HELP ?
Chrsp said:
I'm running pure stock rom, no rooting, no updating, V10E just bought it less than a week ago.
This is the apps I have installed:
2G-3G toggle widget
Android live wallpapers
Aptoide
Bs Player
CamScanner
Dropbox
Chrome UPdates
Epic Citadel
Flashlight
Go Launcher EX
Go SMS pro
GPS fix deluxe
Moon+ Reader
Onavo Count
Onavo Extend
Opera MIni
QuickPic
Screen Filter
Shush! Ringer Restorer
Simple Mp3 Downloader
Thumb Keyboard
Viber
Whatsapp
Now I tried the following two things with my phone:
For the first night, I left it at 2G only, with autosync disabled, and wifi,bluetooth,gps etc. off. All above apps were running, viber and whatsapp included, and obviously with no autosync, Gmail was not, so only the Email app that comes with android was running and checking email. In one night, it drained no more than 6%, over 8 hours.
The second night; again 2G only, and everything off, except for autosync, which I set to sync gmail only, and disabled the native Email app. In 6 hours overnight, battery drained 10%. This does not make sense for me, why would gmail drain so much battery?
Next, while I can live with those stand-by times, what is wierd is that while using the phone, the battery drains at unbelievable rates. I leave it mostly on 2G, barely using 3G every now and again. This morning, I left the house with 90% battery. charged it on my way to uni with the car, then when I got there played some games and a few songs for maybe 15 mins, then my friend came and we goofed around taking a video with the effects for a few minutes not more than 5. THen I went on for my lesson, took about 15 photos with no flash, with CamScanner and organized them into documents, then used regularly my phone to send texts, whatsapp and viber, then browsed the web for maybe 10 mins on 3G. By 12 o' clock, my phone was nearly dead (10%)! This does not seem normal to me, even though the standby times range from excellent, to acceptable it seems like the phone uses an enormous amount of battery when in use generally.The brightness varied from about 10% indoors, to 80% when outdoors. (most use was indoors). To make the time clear, I got to uni at 6.30 am, and while using the phone and games the phone was still connected to the car charger.
I have not done any modification to the phone. NO updates, no root (which I heard causes battery drain) no nothing.
HELP ?
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hey, some tips if you want to extend your battery life, that worked for me, set display bright 50% and check auto bright mark, use some app like antutu cpu master (root required) to down your cpu clock to 1200 Mhz or 1000 (i used 1000Mhz), and also you should consider upgrade your firmware to v10h, you can notice the change in the battery duration, for me with all this tips, my battery drains about 30% from 5am to 3pm with a normal usage (gmail sync, whatsapp, email sync, facebook, twitter, some calls, sms), if you play casual games, battery duration goes down, but with cpu speed set to 1000mhz you can obtain a little more while gaming and avoid overheating
donkanmcklaus said:
hey, some tips if you want to extend your battery life, that worked for me, set display bright 50% and check auto bright mark, use some app like antutu cpu master (root required) to down your cpu clock to 1200 Mhz or 1000 (i used 1000Mhz), and also you should consider upgrade your firmware to v10h, you can notice the change in the battery duration, for me with all this tips, my battery drains about 30% from 5am to 3pm with a normal usage (gmail sync, whatsapp, email sync, facebook, twitter, some calls, sms), if you play casual games, battery duration goes down, but with cpu speed set to 1000mhz you can obtain a little more while gaming and avoid overheating
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Thank you Ok, so is it safe to change to v10H? Will I need to factory reset everything? Because I would really like to avoid that? Plus to downclock would I need root? THen I'm going to definitely need to factory reset right?
Also which rom should I go for? I keep seeing the "Stock" roms and the deodexed zipaligned roms, which are better? If possible can you include for me a link to the actual rom you are using? thanks
BTW:: I don't have auto brightness setting!!
And is it wierd that gmail seems to be using way too much battery on standby?
This is actually quite 'normal' as most O4X users experience this notorious battery drain.
To extend your battery, you might want to do these:
1. Root your phone and uninstall any unnecessary bloatwares
2. Install battery saving app. A word of precaution though, for some it works wonder, and some experience disaster. I personally use Juice Defender and have seen some battery improvement.
3. Root your device and edit your com.telephone database. I've seen major battery improvement by doing this.
4. Get yourself some power banks. This thing comes handy when you're running out of juice.
You can browse this forum to do all the above.
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hernestwisnu said:
This is actually quite 'normal' as most O4X users experience this notorious battery drain.
To extend your battery, you might want to do these:
1. Root your phone and uninstall any unnecessary bloatwares
2. Install battery saving app. A word of precaution though, for some it works wonder, and some experience disaster. I personally use Juice Defender and have seen some battery improvement.
3. Root your device and edit your com.telephone database. I've seen major battery improvement by doing this.
4. Get yourself some power banks. This thing comes handy when you're running out of juice.
You can browse this forum to do all the above.
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Explain the com.telephone procedure? I'm seeing some improvement by using apex and freezing bloat, lower brightness etc but could do with a little more juice
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Try this post, it might help http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2057093
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So here's the deal. Wasn't getting great idle drain but figured I'd give it a while to see if it worked itself out. It hasn't. Took my phone off the charger and slept for less than 8 ours and loss almost 16% about 2% per hour.
I had wifi on. Blue tooth off. gps off. i have greenify stopping my voicemail and facebook app. I have about 60 something apps frozen. Android OS took up most of my battery life as you can see in pictures. Went to partial wakelocks and saw email at 30seconds but there are only like 45 secs of partial wakelocks so not that big of a deal. Noticed that better battery stats said my phone was awake for almost an hour (I was on it for 10 minutes looking at stuff which is why the screen on pic saus about 10 minutes, the screen wasn't on at all from unplug to me waking up). Noticed under kernal lock that something was keeping stuff on for almost an hour.
So why on earth was my phone on for almost an hour of the 8 hours i was asleep? Further, why does my battery drain look like it was pretty consistent over that time even though the phone was on for an hour. It makes me think that it continuously must be turning itself back on. I know that wifi is the problem for some people but I figured that I would be able to see that in partial wakelocks yet it isn't there. I can try changing wifi stuff if some sees something showing that it is wifi issues.
Otherwise, maybe i should return the phone???
So , I would say that the main issue is your mail service process. It woke up 184 times, every time it wakes its going to keep the phone awake for a little before the phone completely goes back to sleep. it is work related i assume?
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So , I would say that the main issue is your mail service process. It woke up 184 times, every time it wakes its going to keep the phone awake for a little before the phone completely goes back to sleep. it is work related i assume?
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yes that mail account is work and there is an account for my school. It is the email apk that bypasses security that plenty of other people are running. Do you think that it is an account issue or the Email.apk? So the 180 wake ups only totaled for 30 something seconds of partial wakelock. Is it not showing upas a partial wakelock and that is why the phone says that it was on for so long?
also, I read that something having to do with wifi and the qcom_rx_wakelock cause severe battery drain. Know anything about that.
So, yes, the app only worked for 33 seconds because each wakelock probably required only a few milliseconds to do what it needed to do.. but the phone does not go to sleep instantly after each wakelock. so for each of the 184 times that app woke your phone up, it was "awake" for 5-15 seconds or however long it takes the phone to decide its time to go to sleep again. Awake time for me is almost always a function of screen time, like 1.5x - 2x my screen time.
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So, yes, the app only worked for 33 seconds because each wakelock probably required only a few milliseconds to do what it needed to do.. but the phone does not go to sleep instantly after each wakelock. so for each of the 184 times that app woke your phone up, it was "awake" for 5-15 seconds or however long it takes the phone to decide its time to go to sleep again. Awake time for me is almost always a function of screen time, like 1.5x - 2x my screen time.
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so any idea on a solution besides setting up for my email to only check every half hour. It is set to push right now. Given I don't need it at night really and i can set something up to change when it is allowed to check for emails. But sometimes I am up at 2 because I get an email that requires me to do work. Also, the qcom_rx_wakelock that kept m phone on for 32 minutes or something doesn't seem to have to do with the email. But maybe when the email tries to access the internet that wakelock runs to try to get wifi...
edit: I did more research on the qcom_rx_wakelock. I still don't understand it all but it is some issue that the 4.2.2 update came with. It causes major battery drain on some wifi networks and not on some others. It has to do with the wifi connection continuously having to talk to the router and waking the phone up which is also tied to some apps that are syncing. People on nexus's have created patches that fix the issue, but I don't think I'm going to be doing anything like that. I PMd a member to try and get more information.
For now I have two routers at my house and will be switching to using the other router for my wifi connection on my phone to see if it creates the same battery draining issues while in sleep. If I get any more information I will update again. I also think this could explain a lot of the reason that some people are experiencing sub-par battery life while others are getting great battery life. Depending on what router (work, school, home, public place) you are on might make the phone constantly turn itself on and off trying to reconnect or do something with that wifi network. I know many people have had 15 to 20% battery drain overnight then turned wifi off and just stayed on 3g/4g connection and battery drain went to 4 to 5% over night. FYI
I just got the Moto X and have a few things installed. My question is, in the battery mete graph you have screen on and awake. Is the awake always supposed to be on? I'm guessing it is since it has the touchless controls always listening.
Figured why it won't go to sleep. Has anyone ever had it where the phone app gets stuck and stays awake? Only way to get rid of it for me is to reboot.