I am looking at adding the wifi hotspot service to my phone.
I'm wondering if anybody uses it and what your experiences are?
Any things I should watch out for?
A salesman at Best Buy told me that while hotspot is running I can't make or receive phone calls, is this true?
I should clarify, I'm asking about the Verizon mobile hotspot service added to my account. I am not asking about the hacks to steal the service. I understand the reasons others use them, it's just not for me. Whether I like their rules or not, it's Verizon's network so I'm going to play by the rules.
EDIT: it looks like I have the primary answer I was concerned about, you can still make and receive calls while using the hotspot.
I have the 4g LTE hotspot on my Galaxy Nexus. Most of the time when I'm using it, I'm in 3g mode. If a call comes in, it suspends the internet connection until the call is over. I've never tried making a call while using the hotspot, and I'm not sure what would happen when using the hotspot in 4g LTE mode. Since voice calls don't use 4g LTE, I don't see why it wouldn't allow voice calls while using 4g LTE hotspot.
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mlemasney said:
I have the 4g LTE hotspot on my Galaxy Nexus. Most of the time when I'm using it, I'm in 3g mode. If a call comes in, it suspends the internet connection until the call is over. I've never tried making a call while using the hotspot, and I'm not sure what would happen when using the hotspot in 4g LTE mode. Since voice calls don't use 4g LTE, I don't see why it wouldn't allow voice calls while using 4g LTE hotspot.
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Data works just fine if your on LTE and on the phone at the same time, i do it all the time with some headphones i have
mlemasney said:
I have the 4g LTE hotspot on my Galaxy Nexus. Most of the time when I'm using it, I'm in 3g mode. If a call comes in, it suspends the internet connection until the call is over. I've never tried making a call while using the hotspot, and I'm not sure what would happen when using the hotspot in 4g LTE mode. Since voice calls don't use 4g LTE, I don't see why it wouldn't allow voice calls while using 4g LTE hotspot.
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That's pretty much what I expected, what the tech was telling me didn't make sense. It did have just enough plausibility to it though as a carry over from the 3g days when they couldn't do voice and data at the same time.
jnc8651 said:
Data works just fine if your on LTE and on the phone at the same time, i do it all the time with some headphones i have
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Thanks, I thought that was one of the draws of lte was being able to have data and voice at the same time.
I'm starting to think this is a viable option as our home internet connection, dropped Comcast a last fall and been using just out phones. It has been working but finding more and more times where I need to get my computer online.
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Data works just fine if your on LTE and on the phone at the same time, i do it all the time with some headphones i have
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When you are using it are you running on battery or plugged in?
If you're running plugged in does it have the power to run like that indefinitely or does it still drain your battery?
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I have been looking all over about this. I have the Thunderbolt but not happy with the HTC poor quality phone, and random reboots once in a blue.
So I am thinking in getting the Bionic.
Thanks.
You totally can talk and surf at the same time, I did it today and was surprised to see it worked very well.
fgarcia25 said:
I have been looking all over about this. I have the Thunderbolt but not happy with the HTC poor quality phone, and random reboots once in a blue.
So I am thinking in getting the Bionic.
Thanks.
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*Only* on 4G. 3G simultaneous voice/data is not supported.
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*Only* on 4G. 3G simultaneous voice/data is not supported.
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Really? That's interesting... my Thunderbolt does voice & data on LTE or EVDO. From what I was told by my Verizon Business Data Specialist, it's actually not a limitation of the Verizon Network, it has to do with the antenna in the phone (which is strange, you would think they would have enabled it long ago on 3G).
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Really? That's interesting... my Thunderbolt does voice & data on LTE or EVDO. From what I was told by my Verizon Business Data Specialist, it's actually not a limitation of the Verizon Network, it has to do with the antenna in the phone (which is strange, you would think they would have enabled it long ago on 3G).
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I believe the thunderbolt has a separate "2g" radio and antenna that it can make voice calls on while using the 3g or 4g for data.
I'm not sure if the bionic is the same.
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I believe the thunderbolt has a separate "2g" radio and antenna that it can make voice calls on while using the 3g or 4g for data.
I'm not sure if the bionic is the same.
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This is true. The Thunderbolt doesn't actually do simultaneous 3G voice/data, it has voice over 1X on a different antenna, then data over 3G.
It is *most definitely* a limitation of the network, running EVDO Rev. A which doesn't support it. Rev. B does, but VZ decided to skip it and go straight to LTE.
Cool. Thanks everyone. This definitely makes me want to get it.
Share what your on tbolt, internet works when surfing and talking
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Share what your on tbolt, internet works when surfing and talking
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I think what you are asking "What data services work while you are talking on your Thunderbolt?" If so, everything that I have noticed... Email, Browser surfing, and SMS messaging. Not sure about Hotspot Tethering, but would have to assume it does.
To qualify my previous statement regarding simultaneous Voice and Data, I didn't mean to say that both Voice & Data were 3G and worked at the same time... What I meant to say was that while my Thunderbolt showed a 3G EvDo connection, I could talk and surf. If the voice is going over a 1X network, I wouldn't know because the voice quality was just as good as always. It is safe to say that voice doesn't require 3G EvDo connectivity to function well.
Furthermore, if they made separate antennas in the Tbolt that made this possible, then both Berzerker7 and I were correct... though there is a limitation on VZW 3G EvDo's network, if the phone manufacturer's had just made separate antennas, then there are a lot of phones that could have done Simultaneous Voice & Data.
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I just tested this myself and I am able to talk and surf at the same time with no problems but I was on 4g don't know what will happen when I am on 3g. Something else that I noticed what I think it is, is that voice is going over cdma and data is going over gsm. If you go to your dialpad and type this in *#*#4636#*#* and then go to phone information, you will see at the bottom it says gsm/cdma network auto. Here is where I found the code along with some other interesting info askvg.com/google-android-hidden-secret-codes Does anyone else have any info on this. Biggest question why isn't VZW advertising that you can talk and surf at the same time now...
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I just tested this myself and I am able to talk and surf at the same time with no problems but I was on 4g don't know what will happen when I am on 3g. Something else that I noticed what I think it is, is that voice is going over cdma and data is going over gsm. If you go to your dialpad and type this in *#*#4636#*#* and then go to phone information, you will see at the bottom it says gsm/cdma network auto. Here is where I found the code along with some other interesting info askvg.com/google-android-hidden-secret-codes Does anyone else have any info on this. Biggest question why isn't VZW advertising that you can talk and surf at the same time now...
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Does not work in 3G areas unfortunately... since my home is still 'out there'
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If you get a call on 3G, the icon will disappear until your call is over. 4G only, not sure about wifi.
psufan5 said:
If you get a call on 3G, the icon will disappear until your call is over. 4G only, not sure about wifi.
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If you're on wifi you can talk and surf, you've always been able to. That's not new.
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If you get a call on 3G, the icon will disappear until your call is over. 4G only, not sure about wifi.
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All android phones I have used allow simultaneous voice/data with a Wi-Fi connection.
The reason the Thunderbolt is the only LTE VZW phone that can do it, Qualcomm and HTC jumped through hoops to with the FCC to get them to allow the Thunderbolt. It has a total of 4 antennas and they do not exceed the legal limit imposed by the FCC. (This is probably an attribute, although not certain, of why the battery life sucks.) Therefore you can talk and surf on 3G and 4G. This antenna combo is not on any of the other LTE phones offered by VZW (They all are not HTCs the other ones), but i'm sure the next HTC 4G phone that comes out will be able to do it on 3G and 4G if it has the multiple antenna setup from Qualcomm.
One of the sources I've read, I can't find the one that I really liked though:
http://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index...erbolt-review-first-verizon-4g-lte-smartphone
Has anyone out thought of a switch for root users on 4g phones to disable 3g so you don't have 2 wireless radios for 3g and 4g running at the same time? If so, can someone name the app, or tell me where I can find the info on it?
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I think if you disable the 3g radio you would have no voice or text. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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you're right. 4g is only for data.
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I'm not sure this is correct. On the Thunderbolt, you can switch it to LTE only, and it remains able to make calls and send/receive texts. Although perhaps that doesn't disable the 3G radio.
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Only reason this even came to my attention is because I had heard rumors about the Sprint users being able to disable their 3g radio and still receive texts and voicemails... So, I figured I would ask about it. I mean with dumbphones that weren't 3g how did those receive those functions without a 3g radio?
voice/text messages are on 1x while internet is on 3g/4g
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Only reason this even came to my attention is because I had heard rumors about the Sprint users being able to disable their 3g radio and still receive texts and voicemails... So, I figured I would ask about it. I mean with dumbphones that weren't 3g how did those receive those functions without a 3g radio?
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Issue I see, is sometimes I'll lose 4g around here (GR area too), and if 3g was off, I wouldn't have data at all.
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voice/text messages are on 1x while internet is on 3g/4g
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Than why when I'm on 3g, in a non 4g zone, when I go to make a call, the phone disables 3g?
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@sheatyj - I would have use for this though because I travel the country for work... Most places I go are all 4g (or at least Verizon claims them to be) so if I can disable my 3g radio, I can make my phone last a little longer... Also It will help with me having issues with my phone jumping back into 3g when I just had 3 bars of 4g.
heard of a toggle on thunderbolt a widget
How about switch to turn off all but wifi?
A nice feature of my Blackberry was the ability to turn OFF the telephone and leave the WIFI turned ON. This was great for non-coverage areas and when I traveled internationally. Can this be done on the Bionic? tnx
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A nice feature of my Blackberry was the ability to turn OFF the telephone and leave the WIFI turned ON. This was great for non-coverage areas and when I traveled internationally. Can this be done on the Bionic? tnx
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Just enable Airplane Mode. That will turn everything off.
Once everything is off, just re-enable WiFi and/or Bluetooth if you want to use just that.
Ok so the data on my phone works (i can connect to anything on my phone using LTE) however the minute i throw on the hotspot, no connection. My line is provisioned correctly as i have checked many times. For some reason it just wont connect to the data network when the hotspot it on..... i threw my sim in another VIVID and it worked fine. i know were having LTE network issues but WTF?
If you actually have it provisionsed correctly, (purchased LTE tether) why not just call 611?
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Hi, on my Moto x on Verizon, even when im on Wifi at home (usually a pretty good signal) it still searches and is constantly trying to connect to a Verizon mobile signal. The problem is that in my house we have a terrible signal (usually low 1x to emergency calls only) so when receiving calls or texts, the call either drops out constantly or never goes through, and i get texts hours later and sometimes when i send they never go through.
It seems that even though im connected to Wifi, its only using that for data and is using the mobile connection for everything else. On my GNex when i connected to wifi it would basically ignore the mobile connection at that point and use wifi for everything. It wouldnt even show if i had a 1x/3g/lte connection at that point. The moto x continues to show me what data connection i have on wifi. Is this how the moto x just works, or is this just some weird device specific or verizon issue?
Turn on airplane mode, then wifi. Airplane= no mobile data.
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That's how all android phones work. SMS and MMS don't use data (unless your using Google voice). Your GNex didn't ignore the wireless signal (there would be no way to route calls and texts without it). You can call Verizon and they will put in a signal booster for free.
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matt30 said:
That's how all android phones work. SMS and MMS don't use data (unless your using Google voice). Your GNex didn't ignore the wireless signal (there would be no way to route calls and texts without it). You can call Verizon and they will put in a signal booster for free.
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also the signal booster will be tied to your wifi connection so now when you have a good wifi connection you should have a good signal. With the booster your texts and phone calls will not be going through your wifi network. The type of service verizon uses doesn't let them router phone calls and texts through wifi networks. I believe tmobile or some other brands have the ability to do this already but verizon doens't. Not the phones fault its the radios the carrier uses.
matt30 said:
That's how all android phones work. SMS and MMS don't use data (unless your using Google voice). Your GNex didn't ignore the wireless signal (there would be no way to route calls and texts without it). You can call Verizon and they will put in a signal booster for free.
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how do you get them to do that for free? i need one of them since this phone has been getting worse signal than any of my previous phones (including my gnex).
willlay said:
how do you get them to do that for free? i need one of them since this phone has been getting worse signal than any of my previous phones (including my gnex).
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just complain enough that your signal is so bad that it is not usable in your house. You might have to call the I am going to cancel service hotline and say you will leave because you aren't getting service. Just complain some more. then ask for supervisor. complain some more. eventually some one will offer you one for free.
T-Mobile has that ability. That's the primary reason I have them for my backup phone (the cheap Lumia 521). I have that phone set to default to WiFi calling so while I'm at home it never uses the TMo network. Unfortunately, the Moto X does not support this feature.
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I use ringcentral
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Hey bro, does ring Central work well with the sprint version of the Moto X?
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Yes. I even have call recording. I'll post a discount link today
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Is there a way to make my phone ALWAYS connect to lte whenever there is ANY signal for it without losing calling and text? I know that if you go into *#*#4636#*#* you can force the phone to stay lte, but if I do that I loose calling and texting capabilities.
My problem is my building has lte signal thought, but my phone thinks 3g is better in the first floor so it connects to it... Forcing it to lte with *#*#4636#*#* works for data, but calls and text don't go through at all.
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Is there a way to make my phone ALWAYS connect to lte whenever there is ANY signal for it without losing calling and text? I know that if you go into *#*#4636#*#* you can force the phone to stay lte, but if I do that I loose calling and texting capabilities.
My problem is my building has lte signal thought, but my phone thinks 3g is better in the first floor so it connects to it... Forcing it to lte with *#*#4636#*#* works for data, but calls and text don't go through at all.
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if sprint doesnt have volte, then you can not. im using tmobile, which is using volte, so i enable lte only, and get calls and texts. if no volte, then you wont get calls or texts via lte.
simms22 said:
if sprint doesnt have volte, then you can not. im using tmobile, which is using volte, so i enable lte only, and get calls and texts. if no volte, then you wont get calls or texts via lte.
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I was thinking more along the lines of telling the phone 3g data doesn't exist or is always worse, so if it sees lte it should grab it but at the same time staying connected to cdma so phone calls work
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I was thinking more along the lines of telling the phone 3g data doesn't exist or is always worse, so if it sees lte it should grab it but at the same time staying connected to cdma so phone calls work
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itll always choose the best signal thats available to it. if it happens to be 3G, then thats what itll be. so no volte on sprint yet?
simms22 said:
itll always choose the best signal thats available to it. if it happens to be 3G, then thats what itll be. so no volte on sprint yet?
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No volte.
Right the problem is my phone isn't choosing the truly BEST signal. 3g in my first floor gets 0.2-0.6 Mbps whereas my LTE there is 0.5- 1.3 Mbps yet my phone connects to 3g...
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reinaldistic said:
No volte.
Right the problem is my phone isn't choosing the truly BEST signal. 3g in my first floor gets 0.2-0.6 Mbps whereas my LTE there is 0.5- 1.3 Mbps yet my phone connects to 3g...
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that sucks
Same problem here. LTE is 5mb/s and 3G is 200kb/s and my phone wants to switch to 3G constantly
Make sure it isn't set to global. Will handoff even more.
I have Samsung Note 4 N910C Android 5.1.1. I went to service menu by dialing *#2263# and I set it LTE only and my signals are lost. Now can anyone help me. How can I set it to Automatic again.
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I have Samsung Note 4 N910C Android 5.1.1. I went to service menu by dialing *#2263# and I set it LTE only and my signals are lost. Now can anyone help me. How can I set it to Automatic again.
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dial *#*#4636#*#*, select phone info, scroll down and srlwct lte/gsm/cdma.. but anyways, this is a nexus 6 forums, not a samsung note forums.
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Right the problem is my phone isn't choosing the truly BEST signal. 3g in my first floor gets 0.2-0.6 Mbps whereas my LTE there is 0.5- 1.3 Mbps yet my phone connects to 3g...
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You do realize that a quicker speed does not mean a better signal reception, right?
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You do realize that a quicker speed does not mean a better signal reception, right?
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right, that's also what the phone thinks, I want the speed not the reception. why would I want reception? I don't do phone calls like a caveman
I do realize the LTE fringes on -120dbm, but the few seconds it loses lte isn't enough to affect browsing, yet my phone thinks it's signal doomsday and switches to 3g