Hi, on my Moto x on Verizon, even when im on Wifi at home (usually a pretty good signal) it still searches and is constantly trying to connect to a Verizon mobile signal. The problem is that in my house we have a terrible signal (usually low 1x to emergency calls only) so when receiving calls or texts, the call either drops out constantly or never goes through, and i get texts hours later and sometimes when i send they never go through.
It seems that even though im connected to Wifi, its only using that for data and is using the mobile connection for everything else. On my GNex when i connected to wifi it would basically ignore the mobile connection at that point and use wifi for everything. It wouldnt even show if i had a 1x/3g/lte connection at that point. The moto x continues to show me what data connection i have on wifi. Is this how the moto x just works, or is this just some weird device specific or verizon issue?
Turn on airplane mode, then wifi. Airplane= no mobile data.
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That's how all android phones work. SMS and MMS don't use data (unless your using Google voice). Your GNex didn't ignore the wireless signal (there would be no way to route calls and texts without it). You can call Verizon and they will put in a signal booster for free.
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matt30 said:
That's how all android phones work. SMS and MMS don't use data (unless your using Google voice). Your GNex didn't ignore the wireless signal (there would be no way to route calls and texts without it). You can call Verizon and they will put in a signal booster for free.
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also the signal booster will be tied to your wifi connection so now when you have a good wifi connection you should have a good signal. With the booster your texts and phone calls will not be going through your wifi network. The type of service verizon uses doesn't let them router phone calls and texts through wifi networks. I believe tmobile or some other brands have the ability to do this already but verizon doens't. Not the phones fault its the radios the carrier uses.
matt30 said:
That's how all android phones work. SMS and MMS don't use data (unless your using Google voice). Your GNex didn't ignore the wireless signal (there would be no way to route calls and texts without it). You can call Verizon and they will put in a signal booster for free.
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how do you get them to do that for free? i need one of them since this phone has been getting worse signal than any of my previous phones (including my gnex).
willlay said:
how do you get them to do that for free? i need one of them since this phone has been getting worse signal than any of my previous phones (including my gnex).
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just complain enough that your signal is so bad that it is not usable in your house. You might have to call the I am going to cancel service hotline and say you will leave because you aren't getting service. Just complain some more. then ask for supervisor. complain some more. eventually some one will offer you one for free.
T-Mobile has that ability. That's the primary reason I have them for my backup phone (the cheap Lumia 521). I have that phone set to default to WiFi calling so while I'm at home it never uses the TMo network. Unfortunately, the Moto X does not support this feature.
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I use ringcentral
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Hey bro, does ring Central work well with the sprint version of the Moto X?
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Yes. I even have call recording. I'll post a discount link today
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I am looking at adding the wifi hotspot service to my phone.
I'm wondering if anybody uses it and what your experiences are?
Any things I should watch out for?
A salesman at Best Buy told me that while hotspot is running I can't make or receive phone calls, is this true?
I should clarify, I'm asking about the Verizon mobile hotspot service added to my account. I am not asking about the hacks to steal the service. I understand the reasons others use them, it's just not for me. Whether I like their rules or not, it's Verizon's network so I'm going to play by the rules.
EDIT: it looks like I have the primary answer I was concerned about, you can still make and receive calls while using the hotspot.
I have the 4g LTE hotspot on my Galaxy Nexus. Most of the time when I'm using it, I'm in 3g mode. If a call comes in, it suspends the internet connection until the call is over. I've never tried making a call while using the hotspot, and I'm not sure what would happen when using the hotspot in 4g LTE mode. Since voice calls don't use 4g LTE, I don't see why it wouldn't allow voice calls while using 4g LTE hotspot.
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I have the 4g LTE hotspot on my Galaxy Nexus. Most of the time when I'm using it, I'm in 3g mode. If a call comes in, it suspends the internet connection until the call is over. I've never tried making a call while using the hotspot, and I'm not sure what would happen when using the hotspot in 4g LTE mode. Since voice calls don't use 4g LTE, I don't see why it wouldn't allow voice calls while using 4g LTE hotspot.
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Data works just fine if your on LTE and on the phone at the same time, i do it all the time with some headphones i have
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I have the 4g LTE hotspot on my Galaxy Nexus. Most of the time when I'm using it, I'm in 3g mode. If a call comes in, it suspends the internet connection until the call is over. I've never tried making a call while using the hotspot, and I'm not sure what would happen when using the hotspot in 4g LTE mode. Since voice calls don't use 4g LTE, I don't see why it wouldn't allow voice calls while using 4g LTE hotspot.
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That's pretty much what I expected, what the tech was telling me didn't make sense. It did have just enough plausibility to it though as a carry over from the 3g days when they couldn't do voice and data at the same time.
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Data works just fine if your on LTE and on the phone at the same time, i do it all the time with some headphones i have
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Thanks, I thought that was one of the draws of lte was being able to have data and voice at the same time.
I'm starting to think this is a viable option as our home internet connection, dropped Comcast a last fall and been using just out phones. It has been working but finding more and more times where I need to get my computer online.
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Data works just fine if your on LTE and on the phone at the same time, i do it all the time with some headphones i have
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When you are using it are you running on battery or plugged in?
If you're running plugged in does it have the power to run like that indefinitely or does it still drain your battery?
I'm currently at my girlfriends house have WiFi on and I noticed for a brief second or two under the phone icon it stated "home phone service" no idea what this means or does. I'm guessing that when I can't get a cell signal the phone uses the WiFi signal as a way to make calls? If anyone has insight on this I'd like to know.
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I'm currently at my girlfriends house have WiFi on and I noticed for a brief second or two under the phone icon it stated "home phone service" no idea what this means or does. I'm guessing that when I can't get a cell signal the phone uses the WiFi signal as a way to make calls? If anyone has insight on this I'd like to know.
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I've seen that a couple of times and I'm not sure what it means either. When I'm in "cellular" mode, it says "T-Mobile" and Wi-Fi says "Wi-Fi Calling".
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glad to see im not the only one
Interesting! WiFi calling is a long-standing T-Mobile feature - basically, you use WiFi to make calls from places that you don't have signal, but it still comes out of your minutes, not your data allowance - but I wasn't aware that WP8 supported it. What models of phone do you have?
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Interesting! WiFi calling is a long-standing T-Mobile feature - basically, you use WiFi to make calls from places that you don't have signal, but it still comes out of your minutes, not your data allowance - but I wasn't aware that WP8 supported it. What models of phone do you have?
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I have the Lumia 521. Mine came with it pre-installed, but I understand that some people have had to run a system update first.
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Am nearing the end of the 30 day period on my Republic Wireless trial, and while I am very impressed with the Moto X (and plan to keep it), I am less satisfied with RW. Mainly due to their cell handoff feature also killing my data more often than not. Basically they have their app/ROM setup to very aggressively switch to 4G if there is even a hint that the wifi is slow or less than ideal, and that switch over kills the data connection unless you have their much more expensive monthly plan ($45/month vs $10/month).
I am considering cancelling the RW service, rooting the phone, upgrading to 4.4 (I can do that, right?) and then just using Hangouts to make/receive phone calls and SMS/MMS messages. Anyone else who uses Hangouts as their main comm program who could share their thoughts on call quality and whether they have any issues sending/receiving messages?
Thanks in advance!
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Am nearing the end of the 30 day period on my Republic Wireless trial, and while I am very impressed with the Moto X (and plan to keep it), I am less satisfied with RW. Mainly due to their cell handoff feature also killing my data more often than not. Basically they have their app/ROM setup to very aggressively switch to 4G if there is even a hint that the wifi is slow or less than ideal, and that switch over kills the data connection unless you have their much more expensive monthly plan ($45/month vs $10/month).
I am considering cancelling the RW service, rooting the phone, upgrading to 4.4 (I can do that, right?) and then just using Hangouts to make/receive phone calls and SMS/MMS messages. Anyone else who uses Hangouts as their main comm program who could share their thoughts on call quality and whether they have any issues sending/receiving messages?
Thanks in advance!
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As far as I am aware, the Hangouts SMS/MMS integration is purely on the phone level. You will still need an SMS/MMS plan through a carrier if you want send texts through Hangouts.
Yes. @CMNDR is correct. you connect use sms in hangouts without a carrier plan and also, hangouts doesnt have calling built in yet
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Yes. @CMNDR is correct. you connect use sms in hangouts without a carrier plan and also, hangouts doesnt have calling built in yet
If are using hangout on iPhone, then you can make VoIP calls. Duh.
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With the latest updates to Hangout, SMS works on a phone even if you only have WiFi. I have an older Galaxy Exhibit 4G that I held onto for experiments (no service), and it worked just fine sending both directions. So will be looking to root my X and move.
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With the latest updates to Hangout, SMS works on a phone even if you only have WiFi. I have an older Galaxy Exhibit 4G that I held onto for experiments (no service), and it worked just fine sending both directions. So will be looking to root my X and move.
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I'm pretty sure that the ability to send SMS while only on Wifi is a feature specific to Republic Wireless, and is a necessity because their service relies on Wifi as a fall back (or possibly primary) network. To confirm this, I just tried send an SMS (using Hangouts 2.0.303) with the phone radio disabled and it failed. And even if it were possible regardless of carrier, without carrier service you won't have a phone number, so how would calls/SMS work at all?
I'm only semi-familiar with how Republic Wireless works, but if you're ditching their service, I think you would be wise to ditch the phone too, and replace it with a traditional model that's not specific to Republic's hybrid network.
UncleMike said:
I'm pretty sure that the ability to send SMS while only on Wifi is a feature specific to Republic Wireless, and is a necessity because their service relies on Wifi as a fall back (or possibly primary) network. To confirm this, I just tried send an SMS (using Hangouts 2.0.303) with the phone radio disabled and it failed. And even if it were possible regardless of carrier, without carrier service you won't have a phone number, so how would calls/SMS work at all?
I'm only semi-familiar with how Republic Wireless works, but if you're ditching their service, I think you would be wise to ditch the phone too, and replace it with a traditional model that's not specific to Republic's hybrid network.
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Since I obviously wasn't clear before, let me try again. I installed the latest version of Hangouts on my old TMobile (no longer has service) Samsung Galaxy Exhibit 4G. I then sent an SMS to another number, received it, and was able to respond. Hangouts also supports Voice (and video) calls over WiFi.
So you get everything RW offers direct from Google, but without the monthly fee.
As for the RW Moto X it is a Sprint phone for all intents and purposes, and is only limited in terms of the hybrid ROM it runs. Have successfully just finished doing the RootMyMoto and installing the SafeStrap app so I can boot into custom ROMs. Now just have to find one that works on the RW Moto X. I believe someone mentioned you could use one of TMobile's 4.4 ROMs, but I will need to track down which one.
FWIW...
Apparently the droid turbo can't, which is amazing as far as I'm concerned, and unfortunately a deal breaker for me.
Someone please tell me this phone won't have the same problem?
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On what carrier?
G3
Verizon
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This will be fixed soon on all the new Verizon phones. Same with the Sony Z3v.
It depends on the network. ATT can data and call.
Verizon phones can. I have a note 4 and can make calls while browsing the web
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I'm not sure about all Verizon phones I guess. I just mean it's possible on their network right now
At first most likely not. Droid life did a video making a call while on Verizon and it dropped data as soon as it started calling and came back once finished.
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Wow hopefully that is fixed with the upcoming update being pushed before release.
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Wow hopefully that is fixed with the upcoming update being pushed before release.
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Its not something that is broke ....the oem are making these phones with only one path from modem .... either data or phone can use but not both. ..it's been that way since g2 on sprint ...you can use wifi and phone though
You can when vzw goes VoLTE since it will be using the same network type. This uses same antenna as I phone and other moto devices that do not support simultaneous voice and data
Does Sprint's Spark network support it?
I think Verizon has given the date for the update as mid December. At least for the Turbo, that's the case. Still somewhat mystifying why you would release three major "flagship" phones— Sony zv3, Droid Turbo and the Nexus 6— before your ducks are in a row with simultaneous calls and data.
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Does Sprint's Spark network support it?
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No sprint spark phone can do it .... g2 g3 note 4 s5 none of them
VoLTE
I'm confused. I thought the fact that voice was over CDMA is the reason why we can have simultaneous data and voice. Back before Verizon got LTE there was no simultaneous voice and data. Then once LTE came along, suddenly simultaneous voice and data worked (and has worked for me since). The way this was explained to me was that voice uses CMDA and data uses LTE (which is GSM) so they can coexist.
So I guess I'm confused about two things...
1.) Since simultaneous voice and data has been working for years now, what makes these new phones (Turbo & Nexus 6, specifically) any different. Why is this suddenly a concern again? It feels like 2012 all over again.
2.) Whatever the reason is that it supposedly does not work, why will VoLTE fix things? It seems to me that once we have VoLTE we'd have voice and data both trying to use the same pipe and have issues again, just like before LTE existed and we had only CMDA.
Perhaps someone can explain
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I'm confused. I thought the fact that voice was over CDMA is the reason why we can have simultaneous data and voice. Back before Verizon got LTE there was no simultaneous voice and data. Then once LTE came along, suddenly simultaneous voice and data worked (and has worked for me since). The way this was explained to me was that voice uses CMDA and data uses LTE (which is GSM) so they can coexist.
So I guess I'm confused about two things...
1.) Since simultaneous voice and data has been working for years now, what makes these new phones (Turbo & Nexus 6, specifically) any different. Why is this suddenly a concern again? It feels like 2012 all over again.
2.) Whatever the reason is that it supposedly does not work, why will VoLTE fix things? It seems to me that once we have VoLTE we'd have voice and data both trying to use the same pipe and have issues again, just like before LTE existed and we had only CMDA.
Perhaps someone can explain
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1. some newer VZW phones dont have two radios (ie, one for CDMA voice and the other for CDMA or LTE data).
2. VoLTE with one radio has enough bandwith to simultaneously handle both voice and data. However, VoLTE has a much, much bigger problem as I see it:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/support/advanced-calling-faqs/
Will my call be handed off automatically when I move from the 3G network to the 4G LTE network and vice versa with Advanced Calling 1.0?
No, calls won t switch between 3G and 4G LTE networks. If your call starts on the 3G network and you move to a 4G LTE coverage area, your call will continue as a 3G/CDMA call. However, if your call starts on the 4G LTE network and you move to a non-4G coverage area, your call will drop.
I live in Houston....presumably a place with lots of LTE coverage. In reality, I am constantly switching between LTE and 3G. with VoLTE, I'll be dropping calls like crazy.
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1. some newer VZW phones dont have two radios (ie, one for CDMA voice and the other for CDMA or LTE data).
2. VoLTE with one radio has enough bandwith to simultaneously handle both voice and data. However, VoLTE has a much, much bigger problem as I see it:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/support/advanced-calling-faqs/
Will my call be handed off automatically when I move from the 3G network to the 4G LTE network and vice versa with Advanced Calling 1.0?
No, calls won t switch between 3G and 4G LTE networks. If your call starts on the 3G network and you move to a 4G LTE coverage area, your call will continue as a 3G/CDMA call. However, if your call starts on the 4G LTE network and you move to a non-4G coverage area, your call will drop.
I live in Houston....presumably a place with lots of LTE coverage. In reality, I am constantly switching between LTE and 3G. with VoLTE, I'll be dropping calls like crazy.
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I'm in Katy, travel all over Houston working. While T-Mobile has a very large LTE area down here, I do see the signals changing very often depending on part of town I'm in
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So I have had my Turbo for about ten days. Other than not having two way data has anyone notice issues on making phone calls and quality? I have max 4g lte bars as soon as I dial out it switches to 1x. Then I noticed people say they are losing me in conversations.
Now then same calls with my Droid maxx same location no issues.
bturkel said:
So I have had my Turbo for about ten days. Other than not having two way data has anyone notice issues on making phone calls and quality? I have max 4g lte bars as soon as I dial out it switches to 1x. Then I noticed people say they are losing me in conversations.
Now then same calls with my Droid maxx same location no issues.
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I get the same thing too! I hate it but it's because you can't use data and call on this phone.
I get that too. AC podcast says that when Verizon rolls out voice over LTE it should fix everything
You will loose your data signal until VZW sends out the update to support VoLTE. That's why it's dropping to 1X. Mine just drops the symbol completely, so I just get a blank spot when I make a call. I've heard it'll be out by the end of the year. If it doesn't come out soon, I'll have to switch to the G2 until it does come out.
The maxx just got it'd update to ims&volte. Turbo should get it soon, probably with the lollipop update .
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There is a work-around. Install Google hangout. Install Google hangout dialer. Sign up for Google voice if you don't have an account. Install Google voice. Now you can use hangout to make and receive calls over data when you must also have internet for vpn or other reasons. It works surprising well.
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Except google voice would not be optimized like volte. Also it would count against your data and you will be using a GV number and not your cell.
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The maxx just got it'd update to ims&volte. Turbo should get it soon, probably with the lollipop update .
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Unfortunately it won't be. It is going to be a separate update which we are supposed to get before the new year.
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strange indeed
Phone calls on Verizon still go over the 1x network (and they ALWAYS have.) I am guessing that the radio can't work in multiple modes at the same time (hardware limitation) but that is just speculation on my part. Pretty stupid really considering most LTE phones can do it already, but maybe it was just something with no priority as the Lollipop upgrade will most likely ad VoLTE anyway and make it a moot point.
Is anyone still having this problem? I can't make or receive calls the last few hours. It drops to 1G, just says dialing but won't ever connect when trying to call out. If I try to call myself from another phone it says I haven't set up my voicemail box yet (I've had this phone for over a month, and set it up back when I first got it). The phone worked fine a few hours ago. I'm not sure where to start fixing the problem. Any help would be great!