I've been looking for a tablet for some time, and the $135 refurb deal from B&N was finally enough to push me over the edge to a NC. Nothing else really comes close at that price point.
The technical explanations and threads for rooting/flashing seem pretty straightforward. As I'm familiar with CM from my Droid Eris, I think I'll be ok here.
What I would like to know is:
What do I lose/gain by flashing CM (such as Kang) over rooted stock?
* Do I lose Youtube/Flash? (I did read that there are issues with HD video)
* Can I still buy or install apps from the Market?
* I have some Humble Bundle android games (world of goo, etc) - is stock or CM better for this?
* I currently have no B&N content. I understand I will not be able to use the stock app if I flash - does the alternative B&N app limit me in any other way?
* If I flash, is there any reason I should *not* install to internal flash (emmc, i think?) ?
Sorry if some of the questions seem obvious, I just want to look before I leap
Thanks in advance,
A Nook noob
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EDIT: A summary for first-pagers:
I installed to the sd card, using CM7 (Kang). No real problems so far. Everything just works. I do have trouble prying the dang thing out of my kids' hands.
For the technically-minded: I will note here that apps that can usually remount /system as read/write fail on my sd-only installs. I always have to go back in through the terminal app and do the following steps manually:
bash
mount -t yaffs2 -o rw,remount /dev/block/mtdblk3 /system
This does make changing screen dpi and other similar tasks a pain in the rear, but oh well.
I have not upgraded from the inital Kang release I started with - partly because I'm not sure how using recovery mode in the sd-installed version will work (I hate having to reinstall every app), and partly because everything just works so far.
I will also note that I had to set apps to automatically install to the sd card (this is off by default) because I very quickly ran out of space on the 1GB /emmc slice. Apps get installed here by default even on sd-only installs.
I strongly recommend the "Hacker Keyboard" available on the market (free). It's great when you have to use vi in the Terminal app .
I updated framework.jar to include an IMEI number for apps in the Market. I also edited build.prop for the same reasons.
I overclocked to 1200, and it's solid as a rock at those speeds.
bigrat said:
I've been looking for a tablet for some time, and the $135 refurb deal from B&N was finally enough to push me over the edge to a NC. Nothing else really comes close at that price point.
The technical explanations and threads for rooting/flashing seem pretty straightforward. As I'm familiar with CM from my Droid Eris, I think I'll be ok here.
What I would like to know is:
What do I lose/gain by flashing CM (such as Kang) over rooted stock?
* Do I lose Youtube/Flash? (I did read that there are issues with HD video)
* Can I still buy or install apps from the Market?
* I have some Humble Bundle android games (world of goo, etc) - is stock or CM better for this?
* I currently have no B&N content. I understand I will not be able to use the stock app if I flash - does the alternative B&N app limit me in any other way?
* If I flash, is there any reason I should *not* install to internal flash (emmc, i think?) ?
Sorry if some of the questions seem obvious, I just want to look before I leap
Thanks in advance,
A Nook noob
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This is all assuming you use CM7, which is more mature than CM9.
1. You lose the stock Nook ereader software. it can read kids books and other things which the android app cannot.
2. apps from the market work great from cm7. Don't know about Humble Bundle.
3. you do not lose youtube. (you lose HD with the newest version of Youtube, but still works on old versions.) Flash, I really don't remember. I don't think so. (edit, just checked, yes flash)
4. The only reason not to put on emmc is B&N warranty. You lose it with CM on emmc. But if your broke nook still works you can put stock back on and warranty still good.
But CM on SD works as well as on emmc. And you have stock still available for the reader and warranty.
Thanks leapinlar!
CM will allow you to get even more applications from the market. Also, performance is far better, compared to the stock.
And you can try flashing CM7 to an SD card and try it out before you flash it to internal memory (if you have a sandisk SD card, other brands don't work as well).
As leapinlar listed item 1 above, addition to that is you would lose the ability subscribe free magazine directly on your NC, other than that, CM7 is miles ahead.
The question is really what you lose by moving away from stock. Rooting doesn't really give you any advantage if you are willing to mess with stock you might as well go CM7.
As mentioned you will lose the B&N reader which is built into the Nook and has unique functions. You can still keep nearly all of the functionality of the reader though by getting the B&N app from the market. You will also technically void your warranty (though you can always flash back to complete stock).
If losing the Nook reader's specific functions or the warranty are a concern then you have the option of running a bootable SD card which leaves the internals of the Nook totally stock. This also has its disadvantages though in that you loose the extra storage capacity of the on-board memory and you lose the ability to use multiple SD cards. The slot will be filled by the bootable one you are running on so you can't put others in and out.
Everything else is an advantage in favor of CM7 and are too numerous to list. Bottom line is unless you really like the OS B&N has provided including it's limitations, then there is no reason to stay running stock. Either use a bootable CM7 SD card or put CM7 on internal and don't look back.
JP
Thanks very much for the great answers! It seems I will go CM.
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TThis also has its disadvantages though in that you loose the extra storage capacity of the on-board memory and you lose the ability to use multiple SD cards. The slot will be filled by the bootable one you are running on so you can't put others in and out.
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First bold, why do say losing on-board storage? It's always there for us to use, either 1G, 5G or custom set.
Second bold, we're strongly NOT suggesting people keep inserting and removing the external uSD. Minimize to the lowest possible.
votinh said:
First bold, why do say losing on-board storage? It's always there for us to use, either 1G, 5G or custom set.
Second bold, we're strongly NOT suggesting people keep inserting and removing the external uSD. Minimize to the lowest possible.
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1. Because by breaching the SD card wall the user can potentially make changes to the stock B&N that will cause issues and possibly void their warranty. If the concern is to leave stock alone by using the SD card method then they probably will not want to do anything to potentially mess up emmc. This is a consideration for a user that only wants to run from SD card that they may be limited to the space seen on the SD by default by the ROM and not the extra internal space.
2. Not suggesting that a users should repeatedly insert and remove cards. However running from emmc you have internal storage plus up to 32GB of SD card space available and if necessary you can swap out the SD card. However, when running from the SD card you only have the portion of the SD card unused by the ROM. This portion is split between "internal" and "sd card". If you are using a 4GB bootable SD card you may find you have very little space for apps and media with no option of expanding that by adding an external SD card since you are already using that slot.
These are just considerations that people not familiar with bootable SD cards may want to know about.
JP
J515OP said:
1. Because by breaching the SD card wall the user can potentially make changes to the stock B&N that will cause issues and possibly void their warranty. If the concern is to leave stock alone by using the SD card method then they probably will not want to do anything to potentially mess up emmc. This is a consideration for a user that only wants to run from SD card that they may be limited to the space seen on the SD by default by the ROM and not the extra internal space.
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You probably confuse the eMMC system partitions and the eMMC /media partition. The eMMC /media partition is for us to use, it won't hurt the "stock OS/kernel" at all.
These are just considerations that people not familiar with bootable SD cards may want to know about.
JP
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Sure, agree, but you know, say that we have a 16GB uSD card, if utilize internal memory, we have a full 16GB (don't bother to convert) as personal storage, yes.
If running ROM from a 16GB uSD card, we still have roughly 13GB left for personal storage.
Yep, I agree. Over all a bootable uSD with CM7 is a great way to go. Taking it one step further, if you use a 32GB card you really have quite a bit of space even if you only use the space on the card. This is a solid option particularly if you don't want to mess with eMMC or just have something else on eMMC entirely.
Back to the original question I still say CM7 on eMMC or uSD card is the way to go unless you need the stock B&N functions or layout. In that case root would be better than straight stock.
2 cents
JP
Guys, I really appreciate all the suggestions. I ordered two 32GB Sandisk cards, I'll probably just boot from them until maybe the warranty period is up. 32GB is a lot of space...
I've been running on an SD card for a while now but I'm considering going dual boot on the eMCC. What are the pros/cons for doing that?
mario_de said:
I've been running on an SD card for a while now but I'm considering going dual boot on the eMCC. What are the pros/cons for doing that?
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Voiding your warranty (if you still have one) and the need to be slightly proficient with recovery either from internal or on a bootable uSD card (in case something goes wrong and you need to reflash) are the only cons I can think of.
Pros are possibly smoother (depending on the performance of the uSD card you were using) access to a straight data uSD card through the slot since you won't have to take it up with a bootable card and the ability to keep your ROM and data/backups completely separate. The last one would be for example if your current bootable card became corrupted and non-readable you might not be able to boot it or recover any backups you had saved on it possibly leading to complete loss of the card and the need to start from scratch. This would be avoidable with a little precaution though. Still it's a pro that if you back up the eMMC to the SD card and eMMC crashes you can restore backups from the card.
So, just so that I'm clear here, I'll summarize (in case anyone else wants to know this):
If I wish to install CM, I need to create a bootable uSD card with the image I want. Once I've done this, I can boot directly from this image. If I choose to do this, I do not need to root or modify my NC. Should I wish to return to the original firmware because my NC dies or whatever, all I need to do is pull the uSD card out.
If I do this, I will have access to the remaining storage of the uSD card, and the /media slice on emmc.
The only media/B&N content that I will not have access to will be that content which requires the original NC reader. Pretty much everything else will be better - I can overclock the NC, have access to normal GApps, bluetooth access, Youtube, Flash, games, etc, everything that having CM gives you.
Using the uSD for booting means I will not be able to swap the card out while the NC is running, and is really the only thing I'm giving up here.
Please feel free to correct me where I'm wrong here, and thanks to everybody for the answers.
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If I do this, I will have access to the remaining storage of the uSD card, and the /media slice on emmc.
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\>>> Forget the eMMC. The eMMC is not the memory you are looking for. <<</
To me, the whole purpose of booting to the uSD is to forget, leave pristine, ignore anything on internal memory. Get a 16G Sandisk and the eMMC shouoldn't be worth your time. Better yet, http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-microSDHC-Flash-Memory-SDSDQM-032G-B35/dp/B004G60AD6?tag=dealswoot-20
If I wish to install CM ...
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If I was you, I would say "If I wish to run CM from the external uSD card ...."
MISRy said:
\>>> Forget the eMMC. The eMMC is not the memory you are looking for. <<</
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There is no reason you should not use your emmc media partition in addition to the balance of the SD card. It is there so you might as well use it (especially if you have the full 5GB version). You can never have enough storage space no matter how big your SD card. I have a 16GB card with CM9 on it and have it almost full and emmc media (5GB) almost full too.
leapinlar said:
There is no reason you should not use your emmc media partition in addition to the balance of the SD card. It is there so you might as well use it (especially if you have the full 5GB version). You can never have enough storage space no matter how big your SD card. I have a 16GB card with CM9 on it and have it almost full and emmc media (5GB) almost full too.
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There definitely appears to be two schools of thought here. With cloud options these days on board storage is really becoming less of an issue (Dropbox, Skydrive, Box etc.).
It is nice to have an informed decision based on both options but at the end of the day it is a preference call.
JP
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Currently I am running CM7 off internal memory and I have a SD card that has the apps and what-not on it.
I bought another SD card with the idea of making it a bootable Honeycomb install so I can try it out. I mean I completely enjoy CM7 and have everything set up perfectly the way I want it, but I also like trying new stuff.
So the question is this. Is it possible to do this in a way where the HC install won't affect the CM7 install? I mean when you go to install an app on HC would it put stuff on internal memory or somehow screw up the CM7 install? The idea is that when I want to go back to my stable CM7 I would just put its card in so the second HC card would just be for screwing around.
Anyway...that's the question. I'm guessing if I dug around enough and pulled information together from multiple threads I might figure it out, but perhaps others are interested in doing what I'm talking about too...so hopefully this is a useful post.
If you are running a ROM from SD, everything will be on the SD. The ROM is setup in such a way that it thinks the SD card is internal memory, so everything will get installed to it.
The only downside is that SD is much slower than internal (especially if you don't have a good card), so the experience usually suffers a bit.
You can certainly do this. I'm running stock 1.2 on EMMC and have a dualboot SD card of Phiremod(CM7) and Honeycomb (the latest version from Divine_Madcat). Nothing on internal is touched.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045018
Regarding performance on SD, I have a transcend, class 6 that works flawlessly for CM7 and is a tad slow on Honeycomb. Might pickup a class 4 Sandisk tomorrow (if the price is right!) as i've heard that those are the best and are consistently faster.
Thanks guys. Got it going and its not half bad. I think that if the EVER release the source, this would be an awesome OS for the Nook.
HI..
I’m new in Nook color. I have just bough nook color and an 16GB SD card with Gingerbread 2.3.3 Mod version Phiremod Nook 6.3 Build No. GRI40.
I have not any problem for 1st time booting, but afterthat market wont work, after several cache & data clear up market is back to normal. Then another problem has been found,
1) Internet connection is really slow. My wi-fi setting is set to WEP security (if i change it to W2K or something else it will not detect my wifi), signal is excelent, but sometime i even cannot get into google,I think there problem with the software and connection, seems the nook is very slow also even when i click a thick box it will take around 2-3 minutes to response. What will be the possible issue?
2) When I want to reboot or powering off the Nook another problem has come, the nook wont reboot neither powering off, it hangs and freakin’ me out and i must hard force the power button to kill the nook. What is the cause?
3) Nook shall come with 8GB internal storage, but why in the Storage it is mentioning the total space is 0.93GB and available space is 874MB. And my SD card(16GB) is only 2.24GB instead of 16GB.
Please help me all expert.
I start love Nook the first time i’ve seen it, but after getting some confusion with this I start to thing twice to have rooted tablet..please help me to start enjoying my nook.
Thanks ALL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954902
There's the thread for Phiremod. I would guess some of your issues might be addressed in that thread.
You aren't going to be able to change the partition sizes without destroying your non-SD card build (presumably the stock Nook ROM).
My recommendation is forget the Phiremod, all that does is remove you from the official CM7 update paths and in turn you get no real benefits, no support and lagging updates and fixes.
Install the latest CM7 nightly(177) onto your emmc, most, if not all of the issues you are having should go away once you've done that.
you can follow this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030227
I hope you didn't pay much for that card, because if you want to fix any of these things, you will probably have to start from scratch and make your own, anyway.
Your performance issues very likely relate back to that card. It may be that they used a poor card in the first place, but even if they used a decent card, sometimes SD installs just don't come out quite right and need to be rebuilt from scratch.
abuazka said:
3) Nook shall come with 8GB internal storage, but why in the Storage it is mentioning the total space is 0.93GB and available space is 874MB.
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That's how newer NCs are partitioned. There's a 5GB partition that you can't see where Barnes & Noble apps, books and magazines would install, and only 1GB for you to sideload. The remainder is used for boot files and recovery images. You can reverse that partitioning so you have 5GB available using the method here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094371
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And my SD card(16GB) is only 2.24GB instead of 16GB.
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You may be able to claim the remaining space using a program like EASEUS Partition Manager, assuming it was in fact a 16GB card. If you look at the card in EASEUS on a PC and see a lot of unallocated space, you can extend the partition named /sdcard to take up that space. If the card was set up that carelessly, though, it's very likely the people who made it didn't know what they were doing and the card will never perform well.
Also instead of WEP use WPA2 for best results.
I bought the card less then 50$, the brand is Paxxxxt. The seller has inform me that there might be an issue with the card, because the speed is too slow. He said from thousand of his cards there are 30 something are having this problem, so he send me another card (sanxxxk), it will arrive within next week, hope it will work.
Thanks to all experts.
I am relatively new to Android and can't figure out how to install apps to my external sd card. My internal 11 GB is almost full so I want to move some larger games to the external card. Please help.
Look for apps2sd in Google play store..
Sent from my flying GT-N7000 with DarkyRom with Franco kernel on XDA Premium App!!
Thanks, I tried that app just now and it doesn't do anything different than what the built in system tools does. It just keys me move apps on the phone to the sd card. My question is how can I move apps from my sd card (internal) to my external card to save space and have the same functionality a if the were installed in the phone. It would be cool if you could just install apps like you can on a 32 GB iPhone.
gman901 said:
Thanks, I tried that app just now and it doesn't do anything different than what the built in system tools does. It just keys me move apps on the phone to the sd card. My question is how can I move apps from my sd card (internal) to my external card to save space and have the same functionality a if the were installed in the phone. It would be cool if you could just install apps like you can on a 32 GB iPhone.
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Thursday, March 29, 2012
GMan901 & XDA Members:
If you're willing to shell out the cash for a Micro-SDXC card, I can show you how to swap your internal and external storage (SD cards). In my case, I started out with a 16GB GT-N7000 (International Note) and an 8GB Micro-SD card. I had apps installed on my internal SD card and would put all of my media (music, photos, videos) on my external storage (8GB Micro-SD card); but in the end, it wasn't enough. I ended up running out of space on my internal storage anyway; and considering that there's no way to replace the internal storage, I had to find another solution.
Now, on paper the Galaxy Note officially supports a maximum of 32GB of external storage. However, several sources have confirmed that the Galaxy Note (at least the GT-N7000 anyway) is capable of supporting Micro-SDXC cards of up to 64GB in size, and possibly even larger. However, no matter how large your external storage is, it's still your external storage. Now, if you were able to swap your internal and external storage, you'd have a fixed, 11.5GB external SD card that you would never be able to change, but you would also now have an internal SD card that you could increase or decrease in size whenever you like. In my case, I currently have a 32GB Samsung class 10 Micro-SD card that I bought on Amazon and configured to be my internal storage. Also, If I ever need more internal storage, all I have to do is purchase a larger card, copy all of the files from the old card to it, and insert it into my phone. It really is a great setup. If you're interested in trying this, just let me know and I'll post the necessary file(s) and instructions.
Also, it sounds to me like you are a former iPhone user. If you are, you should know that I am as well. As a matter of fact, it was the new iPhone 4S that I switched to Android from. At first, I found the transition to be..... less than smooth. However, with a little help from the good people here at XDA, I was able to not only make the transition, but also discover just how much more powerful Android is in comparison to iOS. In all fairness though, iOS is, for lack of a better term, the perfect "everyman" mobile OS. But if power, control, and versatility are your bag, Android is the way to go. So if you are in fact a recent iOS-to-Android convert, please let me know. I'd be happy to help show you the ropes.
Let me know if you'd like to swap your phone's internal and external storage; and also let me know if you've recently ditched iOS. In addition to the internal/external storage swap trick, there are a plethora of other tricks, hacks, mods, and techniques that can be used on Android to yield an almost infinite number of effects, changes, and improvements. Android is very tinker-friendly. So just let mw know how new you are to it, and I can show you all kinds of stuff.
Thank you,
Ed (Mister_Mxyzptlk)
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Heck yeah, I would like to know! Yes, I was an iPhone user since 2007. A long as I don't need to root my phone out install a custom firmware, I would really like to know how to use my 32 micro sd card versus the ridiculous 11 GB the Note gives you to install apps and games. I barely had enough room to install Real racing 2.
gman901 said:
Heck yeah, I would like to know! Yes, I was an iPhone user since 2007. A long as I don't need to root my phone out install a custom firmware, I would really like to know how to use my 32 micro sd card versus the ridiculous 11 GB the Note gives you to install apps and games. I barely had enough room to install Real racing 2.
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Well, you will need to root your phone, but it's a completely reversible process. And if you do it correctly, you won't even trip the flash counter.
Anyway, we need to start with what build you're currently running. Could you check "Settings > About Phone" and let me know what build you're currently running. With any luck, it'll be a build that lets you use the ZergRush exploit. That way you won't have to downgrade your phone first.
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Hi Mister_Mxyzptlk,
I have the same doubt/need... I would love to learn more from your experience.
I am rooted and my build # is GINGERBREAD.XXKL7.
I don't mean to hijack this thread!
thanks in advance!
do you also repartition in the process of switching?
Same Problem
Mister_Mxyzptlk said:
Well, you will need to root your phone, but it's a completely reversible process. And if you do it correctly, you won't even trip the flash counter.
Anyway, we need to start with what build you're currently running. Could you check "Settings > About Phone" and let me know what build you're currently running. With any luck, it'll be a build that lets you use the ZergRush exploit. That way you won't have to downgrade your phone first.
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Are you still able to provide info. REALLY WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
Thanks.
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Root your phone, put the sd card in a card reader for your pc, make a second partition on your sd card (Fat32 oder Ext4), get the app Link2SD and your good to go.
Sent from my revived Galaxy Note
altae said:
Root your phone, put the sd card in a card reader for your pc, make a second partition on your sd card (Fat32 oder Ext4), get the app Link2SD and your good to go.
Sent from my revived Galaxy Note
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Thanks, but I don't have card reader, can I use phone to partition sd card.
You can have a look at my signature
I used two apks I found on here. They literally swap memory. My SD shows as 64gig USB and acts like USB.
sent by reversed alien technology....
storage space running out
altae said:
Root your phone, put the sd card in a card reader for your pc, make a second partition on your sd card (Fat32 oder Ext4), get the app Link2SD and your good to go.
Sent from my revived Galaxy Note
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Thanks....but still get above error.
RenegadeI said:
Thanks, but I don't have card reader, can I use phone to partition sd card.
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You can by connecting your device to a pc in mass storage mode and using a partitioning software. But it's kind of tricky. I tried several times to no avail so in the end I got myself a card reader. I recommend you to do the same, they are cheap nowadays. It's far more reliable than trying to do it with your phone.
Sent from my revived Galaxy Note
Is anyone running their rooted nook without an SD card?
I can't seem to get Aldiko, Bluefire, etc to work without the SD card even though I've got a ton of space internally.
RAin geAR said:
Is anyone running their rooted nook without an SD card?
I can't seem to get Aldiko, Bluefire, etc to work without the SD card even though I've got a ton of space internally.
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Some apps require a SD card before they will work.
RAin geAR said:
Is anyone running their rooted nook without an SD card?
I can't seem to get Aldiko, Bluefire, etc to work without the SD card even though I've got a ton of space internally.
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Which ROM are you running? If it is CM7 you can fix that. If rooted stock, you need to get an SD. Like the previous user said, some apps require them.
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I'm on the nightly JB. Seems such a waste not to be able to take advantage of the internal storage. That's a lot of space wasted. Especially since I can host a lot of books with that amount of storage.
You can swap "EMMC" and "SDCARD" in android fairly easy (to trick android into thinking internal memory is a sdcard... apps save stuff there and you don't have to use an sdcard at all)
In the newest CM10 builds just use any ole filemanager thats usable with root and edit /system/etc/vold.fstab
it will look like this with some more stuff commented in
dev_mount sdcard /storage/sdcard1 auto /devices/platform/omap/omap_hsmmc.0/mmc_host/mmc1
dev_mount emmc /storage/sdcard0 8 /devices/platform/omap/omap_hsmmc.1/mmc_host/mmc0
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Notice that its mounting emmc to /storage/sdcard0, simply switch out the sdcard1 directory for sdcard0 and put it below for EMMC.
dev_mount sdcard /storage/sdcard0 auto /devices/platform/omap/omap_hsmmc.0/mmc_host/mmc1
dev_mount emmc /storage/sdcard1 8 /devices/platform/omap/omap_hsmmc.1/mmc_host/mmc0
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*edited out asking what version you are using, you answered while I was typing
anyways, I run without an sdcard, above is how. Everything works just like it should.
viogrep said:
You can swap "EMMC" and "SDCARD" in android fairly easy (to trick android into thinking internal memory is a sdcard... apps save stuff there and you don't have to use an sdcard at all)
What version are you running?
In the newest CM10 builds just use any ole filemanager thats usable with root and edit /system/etc/vold.fstab
it will look like this with some more stuff commented in
Notice that its mounting emmc to /storage/sdcard0, simply switch out the sdcard1 directory for sdcard0 and put it below for EMMC.
cm7 is similar, i believe it uses /mnt/sdcard and /mnt/emmc though. But just take a look. Also, make a backup before you do it, if you mess it up you will get stuck in a bootloop.
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Nice! Now that's what I'm talking about! I can't wait to try it in a couple of hours (when I get a hold of my nook). I also noticed that the nook moves way faster without the sdcard (16gb SanDisk Mobile Ultra). I'm on CM10.
RAin geAR said:
Nice! Now that's what I'm talking about! I can't wait to try it in a couple of hours (when I get a hold of my nook). I also noticed that the nook moves way faster without the sdcard (16gb SanDisk Mobile Ultra). I'm on CM10.
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My nook has seen better days. Even had a son throw it against the wall (I include this because it may be why mine slows to a crawl moreso than I'd like). Only real way I've made mine quit lagging is by setting it so there are no background processes in the developer options. I'm sure there are ways around it, but I don't really multitask on the nook so it works fine by me.
Seems to have done the trick! Thanks viogrep!
Just repartitioned my Nook to 2gb data / 4+gb media. Will use a fresh the CM10 nightly build on it. This is looking really good!
I use the Nook mostly for 90% books, but also load it up with a some music, movies, and games for when I'm on the road to keep from boredom. I've had the Galaxy Note, but ended up coming back to the Nook. Recently picked up an Asus Transformer Pad TF300T and I can see myself using the Nook for long, long time for reading... and more since it's just so much more portable. I really don't have the need for cameras, gps, or any other features on this thing since I already have a phone that can do that.
RAin geAR said:
Seems to have done the trick! Thanks viogrep!
Just repartitioned my Nook to 2gb data / 4+gb media. Will use a fresh the CM10 nightly build on it. This is looking really good!
I use the Nook mostly for 90% books, but also load it up with a some music, movies, and games for when I'm on the road to keep from boredom. I've had the Galaxy Note, but ended up coming back to the Nook. Recently picked up an Asus Transformer Pad TF300T and I can see myself using the Nook for long, long time for reading... and more since it's just so much more portable. I really don't have the need for cameras, gps, or any other features on this thing since I already have a phone that can do that.
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Glad it was able to work for you.
One small bit of info for you. Goomanager and the like won't be automated anymore. As it will reboot into recovery and think the update is on the sdcard when in reality its on the EMMC. You just have to manually flash from the EMMC in TWR.
RAin geAR said:
I'm on the nightly JB. Seems such a waste not to be able to take advantage of the internal storage. That's a lot of space wasted. Especially since I can host a lot of books with that amount of storage.
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I moved my music to /emmc/My Files/Music and told BeyondPod to put my podcasts in /emmc/BeyondPod and all is well.
Some apps can be told things like this, others can't.
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thanks. i'll keep an eye on that and play around with the setup.
the new setup, combined with the CM10 build from 12/10, renewed my love for the NC. :good:
Hi all, a few questions here if you don't mind. I'm a recent owner of a HD+ and have had a great time with it but I am ready to get CM on it now. At first I wanted to dual-boot using either Hybrid or Pure but now I think I'm going to just to EMMC.
I have a lot of comics I want to store, if I'm using EMMC is there no problem using a 64gb class 10 card? From what I've read it seems that class 10 cards only cause problems if you are booting from the SD card?
If I do go hybrid or pure, it is better to use a class 4 (32gb max?) card for this correct?
I do think that I am just going to go the EMMC route, does doing this erase everything already on the Nook or just the OS? (I need to remove any other media myself?)
Thanks a lot for reading all that, and any help is much appreciated!
Installing CM into EMMC will erase every userdata and OS on it.
As long as you want to just store files on it, you can go and get the 64GB one.
My experience with those classes are that, that Class 10 is only fast for big continously written files like videos or songs in high quality.
Lower classes or non classified ones are often MUCH faster at tiny to medium sized files with much access on different adresses.
Backup everything, do a backup via SD recovery, then make factory reset via SD recovery and install CM10.1 plus GApps.
I am a HD+ owner since today and I have chosen to go directly to CM10.1 stable emmc, because I already had experience with SD ROMs from my old HTC HD2 (RIP) and I hated the lags and everything...
(I hate every vendor made bloatware that is stacked onto Android...)
The only thing I can say after my first day with vanilla CM10.1 is, THIS TABLET+PRICE+CM10.1 = AWESOME :laugh:
Hello,
I hope you're well, and I hope you're enjoying your Nook. Installing CyanogenMod on the Nook was the best thing I ever did (at the time Stock didn't have Google Play), so I hope you too enjoy CM.
Personally I do believe that installing CM10.1.3 (stable) on EMMC for general usage is the best way to go. I'd avoid CM10.2 for now, until a RC or stable version is released.
If you're running CyanogenMod (CM) on EMMC, there should be no problems at all as regards to what SD card you use. The storage size or class should not matter when on EMMC; although higher class is tied with better performance. The whole best SD card to use is 4GB class 4 arose when we didn't have the EMMC method of installation; back then we used to boot/install the whole CM on the SD card. Now, I don't think your SD card is as important - anything is a go, after all you're using it for storage only.
If you do go Hybrid or Pure, yes a class 4 SanDisk SD card is best. 4GB is also recommended, but you can go higher if you desire. If you do install on SD card, I'd recommend going Hybrid and not Pure. Out of the two, I'd just go EMMC (EMMC > Hybrid > Pure). However, if you do install on EMMC, everything will be erased on your internal; this includes your stock ROM, and all data/apps. You will however have all your B&N books saved on the B&N cloud.
All the best, any more questions please feel free to ask.
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THIS TABLET+PRICE+CM10.1 = AWESOME :laugh:
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I back this statement.
Thanks for your replies guys!
You pretty much cleared up any confusion/questions I had regarding this. Pretty sure I'm going to just do EMMC. Plus even with the GooglePlay on the Nook now, I still have a lot of games that aren't compatible or are from Humble Bundles, so I don't think I'll have much use for stock.
One more question and I'll leave you guys alone. I have a USB MicroSD card reader I got somewhere years ago. Am I to assume the newer microsdcards won't work with this? I'll have to keep an eye out for a good deal on both. Thanksfully black friday is only a month away in the US :laugh:
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I have a USB MicroSD card reader I got somewhere years ago. Am I to assume the newer microsdcards won't work with this?
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Haha, no problem at all! We're glad we could help.
Regarding your MicroSD card reader; it shouldn't be a problem, as SD cards haven't changed over the years - only the storage capacity. As long as your card reader can read MicroSD cards, and can write to them, you should be good to go. Of course however, I don't know what card reader you have, so there could be problems. I'm assuming it should be safe though.
All the best.
HiddenG said:
Regarding your MicroSD card reader; it shouldn't be a problem, as SD cards haven't changed over the years - only the storage capacity. As long as your card reader can read MicroSD cards, and can write to them, you should be good to go. Of course however, I don't know what card reader you have, so there could be problems. I'm assuming it should be safe though.
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Nope, SD-Card Readers aren't compatible with SDHC/SDXC Cards as there are some differences.
SDHC-Cardreaders are compatible with every type.
SD-Reader --> SD -/-> SDHC/XC
SDHC/XC-Reader --> SD --> SDHC/XC
SD-Card = <4GB
SDHC-Card = >=4GB to 32GB
SDXC-Card = >=64GB to 2TB
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Nope, SD-Card Readers aren't compatible with SDHC/SDXC Cards as there are some differences.
SDHC-Cardreaders are compatible with every type.
SD-Reader --> SD -/-> SDHC/XC
SDHC/XC-Reader --> SD --> SDHC/XC
SD-Card = <4GB
SDHC-Card = >=4GB to 32GB
SDXC-Card = >=64GB to 2TB
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Thanks for the info! This is the specs of the card reader I have
"Versatile — 9-in-1 USB card reader that works with SD, SDHC, MMC, MMCplus, MMCmobile, RS-MMC, microSD, and miniSD, MMCmicro"
Seeing as it lists the SD and mircosd compatibilities separate, am I right to assume it cannot read the micro sdxc cards I am going to need?
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Thanks for the info! This is the specs of the card reader I have
"Versatile — 9-in-1 USB card reader that works with SD, SDHC, MMC, MMCplus, MMCmobile, RS-MMC, microSD, and miniSD, MMCmicro"
Seeing as it lists the SD and mircosd compatibilities separate, am I right to assume it cannot read the micro sdxc cards I am going to need?
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As it supports SDHC, your reader should be good to go with microSDHC cards.