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[Q] NC + HoneyComb 16GB SD Headscratcher

Ok so I have my Nook Color and I have my shiney new class 4 sd card.
I have managed to install Honeycomb on said SD card. I even manged to get ADB setup and installed the marketplace and what not.
What I do not have is left over space on the card. I did use the image from this link:
***.addictivetips.com/mobile/install-android-3-0-honeycomb-and-market-on-nook-color/
[EDIT: Nice spam filter. Try this.]
Since the image is 4GB in size, I was under the impression I would have roughly 12GB free on my SD card. I do not. If I go to Settings > Storage it shows the SD card as having a total size of 1.25GB and 1.14GB free. It also shows the internal storage as having a total size of 656MB and 555MB free space.
Ok I could have sworn the EMMC (or internal storage) was 5GB and add in my 16GB of SD should give me 21GB of space +/- space of the OS and apps.
So where the frell is my 12GB of space at?
Also when I plug the nook into my PC running Windows 7 64-Bit I get 3 removable drives that are greyed out and unusable. Loverly. The heck? At the very least the internal EMMC should be showing up.
Notes:
Yes I did install the USB driver
From what I understand this version of HC is not rooted but like your intro video says, I am a newb so what the frell do I know?
What I want:
To be able to plug my NC into the PC and have access to the EMMC (where a lot of my files are now) and access to remaining 12GB or so of space on the NC itself.
History of me and the NC:
I have previously installed CM7 on a different SD card and it was alright. I didn't like it because I couldnt move icons around on the desktop in an intuitive manner. (i.e., grab and drop) and it felt too much like a hacked up phone OS instead of pure android. I want pure android on my NC.
I did my research before I purchased the NC and IMO, it is the best value for the $$$ in terms of an Android tablet. I don't mind putting in some hours in front of the command line (I started working with computers when DOS 5 was released, so lets compare the color of our beards, eh?) and am totally comfortable in various OS's and speak *NIX fluently.
Got an answer that you think is gonna work? Or should I just wait for someone else to post a different Honeycomb image for the NC, or is there one out there that simply works?
Over the last few months I have spent many hours reading these and various other forums (B&N Forums, Android Forums) to get ready to hack my Nook and I would love to contribute in some small (or not so small) manner however being married with 2 kids working 50+ hours a week puts a damper on my "fun time" (i.e. hackery).
Thanks in advance for not only reading all this, but for any help / support that is offered.

D'Oh!
Shoulda watched the video twice. Posted in wrong sub-forum.
Shoulda been in the Q&A area.
Crap.
Maybe there is a mod out there willing to move it.

Think I may have found whats up.
I pulled the SD card and stuck it back in my laptop to take a look-see at the partitions. Lo and behold there is a 12.5GB un-partitioned space.
So now I am going to create a new partition and then stick it in the nook and boot from it. Hopefully once I hook it up to USB, it will be able to mount as volume for file transfer. It would suck to have to poweroff the nook and pull the card every time I wanted to add some files to it.

No luck. Windows will not recognize the partition I created.
I.e., I am unable to assign a drive letter even though it is a logical partition.
Off to google stuff again.

Well I gave up on this.
However I am willing to admit when I am wrong. I am now quitw happily running the latest stable build of CM7 and its running nicely. Got a few more tweaks to do before I arrive at what I had pictured in my head for my ultimate nook.
I just wanted to report in and give a status update although I am kinda puzzled by the lack of responses. Are the majority of you running froyo and waiting for a better version of honeycomb to be released?
Anyway cheers and happy hacking.

Most of us are (I think) running CM7 (gingerbread). When the HC sources are released, I expect we'll be running CM8 within weeks.
Windoze has real troubles with partitioned SDs, especially in built-in readers, either a case of "we know better" or one of those simplifying assumptions that gets in the way. An external reader (looks more like a generic USB drive) might fare better. I'm a Linux guy, so I'm all set. Most Windoze systems don't have drivers for ext filesystems, so they're unusable (/system and /data).
Image-copying always sets the partitions and filesystems until you re-partition like you did. Good detective work there.
Also, lots of us have lives and aren't in this forum full-time. I tend to ignore HC posts when I don't have infinite time to mess around.

Temetka said:
No luck. Windows will not recognize the partition I created.
I.e., I am unable to assign a drive letter even though it is a logical partition.
Off to google stuff again.
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Delete the partition you created... extend the last partition on the SD... the nook can now use all of it when running off SD and the remaining portion of partition 1 when booting stock.

So come to find out that the main holdup woith getting honeycomb going for the nc community is a lack of source code. Until such time as that is made available I can wait.
Now then, here is where I will eat my own hat. I reloaded the latest stable version of CM7 on my nc and I am really impressed with it. Last time I tried it woas a few months ago and it was a dissapointment for me. However between then and now I have learned a lot more about Android in general and the nook. This is my first android device.
FWIW Linux is my mainOS and has been for years. I was in windows so I could satisfy a craving of mine.You see, I am a WoW player. While the game runs ok in Wine, it runs far far better natively, especially for raiding. So I use linux for work and most other functions, i use windows for games.
So anyway I am now very comfortable in my CM7 setup and will continue to work witu it and learn more as time goes by.

[Q] Memory card not working properly!! :(

I bought a memory card from ebay its transcent sdhc 16 gb class 4.
when i am trying to copy big data to my memory card via data cable my pc hangs and doesnt allow me to do anything and then my cell phone also hangs.
but when am trying to copy data to memory card via another cellphone its working fine..
I am using MIUI XT Final V2.
Can anyone tell me whats wrong??

shrenn said:
I bought a memory card from ebay its transcent sdhc 16 gb class 4.
when i am trying to copy big data to my memory card via data cable my pc hangs and doesnt allow me to do anything and then my cell phone also hangs.
but when am trying to copy data to memory card via another cellphone its working fine..
I am using MIUI XT Final V2.
Can anyone tell me whats wrong??
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Try to transfer data thoruhg a card reader. Especially if it is a large amount like 3-5g of music. Moving data through the phone is fine in short bursts but I always founf it to be cleaner and faster through a card reader.

Woodrube said:
Try to transfer data thoruhg a card reader. Especially if it is a large amount like 3-5g of music. Moving data through the phone is fine in short bursts but I always founf it to be cleaner and faster through a card reader.
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Speaking of memory cards, how did you fix your 32gb Woodrube? I have 3 sd cards failing on me and not sure why. They work for a bit then fail again.

LibertyMonger said:
Speaking of memory cards, how did you fix your 32gb Woodrube? I have 3 sd cards failing on me and not sure why. They work for a bit then fail again.
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Man it sucked big time for so long but I was able to find a corrupted file on there and had to use File Assassin from Malwarebytes.org to delete it. Even then, it didn't want to go. I reformated it full fat and used the "slow" process that filled in 1's and 0's. It happened when I went to CM6.1 the first time.
Think I may have borked it myself during an bad install and then it would never work correctly. I use MiniTool Partition Wizard (I don't like GParted b/c you lose all your data. With MTPW, your FAT data is still there when you want to resize yout ext/swap) to set my partitions and once that was done, I would try to reinstall that same file. Wasn't until I figured out that it was causing so many problems, but it was the only ROM that would boot up. If I used it and then wanted to go to Wanhu or HM's ROMs (this was a few months ago), when I would restore those, it would break the partition and would never boot up. Wouldn't loop in the traditional sense where the animation would run then disappear and the run again, it would just continually run.
Not saying it is CM6 or anything like that, I just think I got a bad download or operator error and a corrupt file hit my card. I just reformatted to full Fat and no partitions and it works fine (for now). It was only the partitions that would not work. I would run MZor sd-ext test and it was horrible with all the errors it showed. I had been deciding to format full fat anyways and stay away from partitioning (I don't and never have used swap), and I have to say I think it is really better that way. I only have about 50+/-apps so my Dalvik isn't even close to filling up and half of them I don't even use.

OK thanks buddy! Looks like thats what I might have to do. So what would be the best method to move Apps over then with just fat32? If you have any advice for me I sure would appreciate it
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

LibertyMonger said:
OK thanks buddy! Looks like thats what I might have to do. So what would be the best method to move Apps over then with just fat32? If you have any advice for me I sure would appreciate it
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
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On my wife's XT, i am just using the native Froyo app2sd (settings>manage apps>select app>move to sd [there is also an app in the market called Move2sd enabler that will move "non-movable" apps to the SD card]). Don't move any widgets to SD card though. On my Vibrant, I have't moved a single one over to the SD yet and have 1.5g left on internal.
FYI if you get an error when downloading an app from the market and it says,
"App not installed
Unknown Error-18"
Don't freak out, it is a known Froyo bug. All you have to do is plug your phone into your computer and look in the .Androidsecure folder (make sure you have show hidden folders checked on your PC) and delete this file.
smdl2tmp1.asec
You can do it through terminal on your phone too but sometimes it repopulates if you do it this way
su
rm mnt/secure/asec/smdl2tmp1.asec
Sorry for the thread hijack but it is kind of a fix for some SD problems.

the original microSD that came with the phone is kinda shady
mine had some problems, had to format it twice to get it working right
a friend of mine even worse, after a few use it died completely

applications on sd card cannot be found

booting sd card with latest stable 7 release.
Just turned on my nook in android mode and all my applications on sd card are not accessible.
I have rebooted numerous times and used recovery and still no apps. When I open settings, I can see the apps on the sd card tab but cannot move them back to phone or clear them.
Don't know what happen? Any solutions to get my sd card applications working again? My nook will boot up fine with sd card but lost all the sd card apps.
The sd card storage is strange. I have a 16bg and now says .89mb used and 1.0gb free. it used to say 13.? free.
Any Thoughts?
appreciate the help

similar problem
I just started a new thread a few minutes ago describing a similar problem. I lost the ability to browse apps after installing a couple of them from App Brain. I know the apps are there, but I have no way to browse and launch them.
Wish I could say I have an answer for you...

I'm not sure of the exact cause of your problem. But i had a similar issue recently on CM9. Changing to a different launcher fixed the basic problem, and then when i switched back to my preferred launcher, the sd card apps were still visible. Hopefully this will work for you too. I ended up switching to a different launcher permanently.

This can happen if you swap what cm7 views as the sdcard, from removable to emmc. Check your settings within Cyanogen/Applications. If use internal storage is checked, then the system is looking for your SD apps on the wrong SD.
Or you could have a corrupted card. I hope it is the first option. Hope this helps.
Looking at your memory fluctuations, I bet the above is right. That is the available memory amount for a nook out of the box without the customizable repartition zips. Which are awesome. At the moment, you have all your memory allocated to data, which is totally unnecessary, and a waste of perfectly usable forage. If you need directions to the directions (assuming this solves your problem, post and ask.

[Q] Reboot constantly when External SD is in. Logging Possible?

Hello
Recently upgraded my Tab to Overcome 4.1.0.0. Upgrade went fine. Everything also was running fine. When I restore everything to the external SD the Tab seems to go into a cycle of rebooting where tab will come up, you can get in, it runs slow but eventually reboots. If I take the external card out it runs fine. I have formatted the card a couple times and it seems to format fine. Is there a way to turn on some sort of permanent logging to see what is occuring just before the tab reboots.
Ric

Grab a different card and try it first.
Sent from my GT-P1000 using XDA App

Don't Think it was the card
Just did a wipe and load of my tab. Loaded cm9 ICS card is in there mind you nothing on it yet but the tab is not rebooting. Unless it is just a certain sector or that I had too much data on it somehow as dumb as that sounds. Still no real answer though. Thanks for the help though.
Ric

bad sdcard can be a real problem.
A new one isn't costing that much, or just grab any from your old phone, even a 2GB one, and try.
you side-tracked it by loading ICS.
The solution could be real.

For anyone arriving here due to a search, the problem is not related to a bad SD card. I had this same problem and took it as an excuse to upgrade to a new Class 10 Lexar. That didn't fix the problem. It's apparently also not related to no-wipe vs wipe; I did a full wipe and restore, and that didn't fix the problem. I eventually tracked the problem down specifically to having apps moved to the SD card.
Overcome 4.1.0 is apparently *really* sensitive to having a lot of apps moved to SD. With no apps on the SD card, it appears to be perfectly stable. It may be possible to have one or two on the SD card without it breaking; I haven't found the exact limit. I do remember that the Kratos edition of Overcome was also a little glitchy with a lot of apps moved to SD, but mostly in that icons wouldn't load properly, not that the system always rebooted.
The fastest fix (which won't require a wipe but WILL require good backups, hope you've been using Titanium Backup regularly) is to drop the external SD card into your computer and delete the ".android_secure" directory. This will require you to restore from backup any of your apps you moved to SD. Unfortunately, if you're like me, only about half of them will fit, so you now get to be choosy (it might be time for some spring cleaning anyway), or start looking for another ROM, as the maintainer of this one has moved on to other things and there will be no further fixes coming.

[SOLVED] Opinions wanted: Rooted vs. CM, etc. EDITED: SD-install of CM.

I've been looking for a tablet for some time, and the $135 refurb deal from B&N was finally enough to push me over the edge to a NC. Nothing else really comes close at that price point.
The technical explanations and threads for rooting/flashing seem pretty straightforward. As I'm familiar with CM from my Droid Eris, I think I'll be ok here.
What I would like to know is:
What do I lose/gain by flashing CM (such as Kang) over rooted stock?
* Do I lose Youtube/Flash? (I did read that there are issues with HD video)
* Can I still buy or install apps from the Market?
* I have some Humble Bundle android games (world of goo, etc) - is stock or CM better for this?
* I currently have no B&N content. I understand I will not be able to use the stock app if I flash - does the alternative B&N app limit me in any other way?
* If I flash, is there any reason I should *not* install to internal flash (emmc, i think?) ?
Sorry if some of the questions seem obvious, I just want to look before I leap
Thanks in advance,
A Nook noob
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EDIT: A summary for first-pagers:
I installed to the sd card, using CM7 (Kang). No real problems so far. Everything just works. I do have trouble prying the dang thing out of my kids' hands.
For the technically-minded: I will note here that apps that can usually remount /system as read/write fail on my sd-only installs. I always have to go back in through the terminal app and do the following steps manually:
bash
mount -t yaffs2 -o rw,remount /dev/block/mtdblk3 /system
This does make changing screen dpi and other similar tasks a pain in the rear, but oh well.
I have not upgraded from the inital Kang release I started with - partly because I'm not sure how using recovery mode in the sd-installed version will work (I hate having to reinstall every app), and partly because everything just works so far.
I will also note that I had to set apps to automatically install to the sd card (this is off by default) because I very quickly ran out of space on the 1GB /emmc slice. Apps get installed here by default even on sd-only installs.
I strongly recommend the "Hacker Keyboard" available on the market (free). It's great when you have to use vi in the Terminal app .
I updated framework.jar to include an IMEI number for apps in the Market. I also edited build.prop for the same reasons.
I overclocked to 1200, and it's solid as a rock at those speeds.

bigrat said:
I've been looking for a tablet for some time, and the $135 refurb deal from B&N was finally enough to push me over the edge to a NC. Nothing else really comes close at that price point.
The technical explanations and threads for rooting/flashing seem pretty straightforward. As I'm familiar with CM from my Droid Eris, I think I'll be ok here.
What I would like to know is:
What do I lose/gain by flashing CM (such as Kang) over rooted stock?
* Do I lose Youtube/Flash? (I did read that there are issues with HD video)
* Can I still buy or install apps from the Market?
* I have some Humble Bundle android games (world of goo, etc) - is stock or CM better for this?
* I currently have no B&N content. I understand I will not be able to use the stock app if I flash - does the alternative B&N app limit me in any other way?
* If I flash, is there any reason I should *not* install to internal flash (emmc, i think?) ?
Sorry if some of the questions seem obvious, I just want to look before I leap
Thanks in advance,
A Nook noob
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This is all assuming you use CM7, which is more mature than CM9.
1. You lose the stock Nook ereader software. it can read kids books and other things which the android app cannot.
2. apps from the market work great from cm7. Don't know about Humble Bundle.
3. you do not lose youtube. (you lose HD with the newest version of Youtube, but still works on old versions.) Flash, I really don't remember. I don't think so. (edit, just checked, yes flash)
4. The only reason not to put on emmc is B&N warranty. You lose it with CM on emmc. But if your broke nook still works you can put stock back on and warranty still good.
But CM on SD works as well as on emmc. And you have stock still available for the reader and warranty.

Thanks leapinlar!

CM will allow you to get even more applications from the market. Also, performance is far better, compared to the stock.

And you can try flashing CM7 to an SD card and try it out before you flash it to internal memory (if you have a sandisk SD card, other brands don't work as well).

As leapinlar listed item 1 above, addition to that is you would lose the ability subscribe free magazine directly on your NC, other than that, CM7 is miles ahead.

The question is really what you lose by moving away from stock. Rooting doesn't really give you any advantage if you are willing to mess with stock you might as well go CM7.
As mentioned you will lose the B&N reader which is built into the Nook and has unique functions. You can still keep nearly all of the functionality of the reader though by getting the B&N app from the market. You will also technically void your warranty (though you can always flash back to complete stock).
If losing the Nook reader's specific functions or the warranty are a concern then you have the option of running a bootable SD card which leaves the internals of the Nook totally stock. This also has its disadvantages though in that you loose the extra storage capacity of the on-board memory and you lose the ability to use multiple SD cards. The slot will be filled by the bootable one you are running on so you can't put others in and out.
Everything else is an advantage in favor of CM7 and are too numerous to list. Bottom line is unless you really like the OS B&N has provided including it's limitations, then there is no reason to stay running stock. Either use a bootable CM7 SD card or put CM7 on internal and don't look back.
JP

Thanks very much for the great answers! It seems I will go CM.

J515OP said:
TThis also has its disadvantages though in that you loose the extra storage capacity of the on-board memory and you lose the ability to use multiple SD cards. The slot will be filled by the bootable one you are running on so you can't put others in and out.
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First bold, why do say losing on-board storage? It's always there for us to use, either 1G, 5G or custom set.
Second bold, we're strongly NOT suggesting people keep inserting and removing the external uSD. Minimize to the lowest possible.

votinh said:
First bold, why do say losing on-board storage? It's always there for us to use, either 1G, 5G or custom set.
Second bold, we're strongly NOT suggesting people keep inserting and removing the external uSD. Minimize to the lowest possible.
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1. Because by breaching the SD card wall the user can potentially make changes to the stock B&N that will cause issues and possibly void their warranty. If the concern is to leave stock alone by using the SD card method then they probably will not want to do anything to potentially mess up emmc. This is a consideration for a user that only wants to run from SD card that they may be limited to the space seen on the SD by default by the ROM and not the extra internal space.
2. Not suggesting that a users should repeatedly insert and remove cards. However running from emmc you have internal storage plus up to 32GB of SD card space available and if necessary you can swap out the SD card. However, when running from the SD card you only have the portion of the SD card unused by the ROM. This portion is split between "internal" and "sd card". If you are using a 4GB bootable SD card you may find you have very little space for apps and media with no option of expanding that by adding an external SD card since you are already using that slot.
These are just considerations that people not familiar with bootable SD cards may want to know about.
JP

J515OP said:
1. Because by breaching the SD card wall the user can potentially make changes to the stock B&N that will cause issues and possibly void their warranty. If the concern is to leave stock alone by using the SD card method then they probably will not want to do anything to potentially mess up emmc. This is a consideration for a user that only wants to run from SD card that they may be limited to the space seen on the SD by default by the ROM and not the extra internal space.
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You probably confuse the eMMC system partitions and the eMMC /media partition. The eMMC /media partition is for us to use, it won't hurt the "stock OS/kernel" at all.
These are just considerations that people not familiar with bootable SD cards may want to know about.
JP
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Sure, agree, but you know, say that we have a 16GB uSD card, if utilize internal memory, we have a full 16GB (don't bother to convert) as personal storage, yes.
If running ROM from a 16GB uSD card, we still have roughly 13GB left for personal storage.

Yep, I agree. Over all a bootable uSD with CM7 is a great way to go. Taking it one step further, if you use a 32GB card you really have quite a bit of space even if you only use the space on the card. This is a solid option particularly if you don't want to mess with eMMC or just have something else on eMMC entirely.
Back to the original question I still say CM7 on eMMC or uSD card is the way to go unless you need the stock B&N functions or layout. In that case root would be better than straight stock.
2 cents
JP

Guys, I really appreciate all the suggestions. I ordered two 32GB Sandisk cards, I'll probably just boot from them until maybe the warranty period is up. 32GB is a lot of space...

I've been running on an SD card for a while now but I'm considering going dual boot on the eMCC. What are the pros/cons for doing that?

mario_de said:
I've been running on an SD card for a while now but I'm considering going dual boot on the eMCC. What are the pros/cons for doing that?
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Voiding your warranty (if you still have one) and the need to be slightly proficient with recovery either from internal or on a bootable uSD card (in case something goes wrong and you need to reflash) are the only cons I can think of.
Pros are possibly smoother (depending on the performance of the uSD card you were using) access to a straight data uSD card through the slot since you won't have to take it up with a bootable card and the ability to keep your ROM and data/backups completely separate. The last one would be for example if your current bootable card became corrupted and non-readable you might not be able to boot it or recover any backups you had saved on it possibly leading to complete loss of the card and the need to start from scratch. This would be avoidable with a little precaution though. Still it's a pro that if you back up the eMMC to the SD card and eMMC crashes you can restore backups from the card.

So, just so that I'm clear here, I'll summarize (in case anyone else wants to know this):
If I wish to install CM, I need to create a bootable uSD card with the image I want. Once I've done this, I can boot directly from this image. If I choose to do this, I do not need to root or modify my NC. Should I wish to return to the original firmware because my NC dies or whatever, all I need to do is pull the uSD card out.
If I do this, I will have access to the remaining storage of the uSD card, and the /media slice on emmc.
The only media/B&N content that I will not have access to will be that content which requires the original NC reader. Pretty much everything else will be better - I can overclock the NC, have access to normal GApps, bluetooth access, Youtube, Flash, games, etc, everything that having CM gives you.
Using the uSD for booting means I will not be able to swap the card out while the NC is running, and is really the only thing I'm giving up here.
Please feel free to correct me where I'm wrong here, and thanks to everybody for the answers.

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If I do this, I will have access to the remaining storage of the uSD card, and the /media slice on emmc.
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\>>> Forget the eMMC. The eMMC is not the memory you are looking for. <<</
To me, the whole purpose of booting to the uSD is to forget, leave pristine, ignore anything on internal memory. Get a 16G Sandisk and the eMMC shouoldn't be worth your time. Better yet, http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-microSDHC-Flash-Memory-SDSDQM-032G-B35/dp/B004G60AD6?tag=dealswoot-20

If I wish to install CM ...
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If I was you, I would say "If I wish to run CM from the external uSD card ...."

MISRy said:
\>>> Forget the eMMC. The eMMC is not the memory you are looking for. <<</
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There is no reason you should not use your emmc media partition in addition to the balance of the SD card. It is there so you might as well use it (especially if you have the full 5GB version). You can never have enough storage space no matter how big your SD card. I have a 16GB card with CM9 on it and have it almost full and emmc media (5GB) almost full too.

leapinlar said:
There is no reason you should not use your emmc media partition in addition to the balance of the SD card. It is there so you might as well use it (especially if you have the full 5GB version). You can never have enough storage space no matter how big your SD card. I have a 16GB card with CM9 on it and have it almost full and emmc media (5GB) almost full too.
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There definitely appears to be two schools of thought here. With cloud options these days on board storage is really becoming less of an issue (Dropbox, Skydrive, Box etc.).
It is nice to have an informed decision based on both options but at the end of the day it is a preference call.
JP