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[Q] Why Upgrade to ICS... debate..

Hi Folks, I'm currently running JW4 on Semaphore 2.7.4bmfr, bloatware removed, custom theme, UOT icons and effects, various hacks. This Rom is very fast (no lags), fast accurate GPS, I can multitask due to lots of free memory, everything simply works, it never, ever has SOD's or FC's. It looks good and has great battery life.
I'm been considering upgrading to ICS and have been reviewing all of the ROM's. I've discovered that all ICS Roms all seem to have many issues, and to get to this hassled state, requires lots of flashing, wipes and rewipes.
Hmmmm, my (genuine) question is, why should I upgrade to ICS? What does ICS provide over my current fast, stable, long lasting ROM?
It has to be something more than the way it looks (I mean the OS only exists to run your applications) Guess you might say, just try it and you'll see (which means you have no solid reply, it also means I have to spend hours and hours flashing one or more ICS Rom's before deciding, Damn! I need to go back to JW4 as ICS is too slow/buggy/dodgy battery etc. Hence the reason for this question.

Very good question, i've been wondering the same myself as i'm still running cm7.
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You should stay on GB . To be honest, I only stay on ICS, because my titanium backups don't work on GB. But I think the difference isn't big.
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I guess it strongly depends on your favors and focus. I'm using ICS since the first days of onecosmics and teamhacksungs ICS roms. ICS has a bunch of goodies and gimmicks but nothing for that you'd say: You can't use a smartphone without it!.
You're not wrong by still using GB, definetly not!

nitrous² said:
I guess it strongly depends on your favors and focus. I'm using ICS since the first days of onecosmics and teamhacksungs ICS roms. ICS has a bunch of goodies and gimmicks but nothing for that you'd say: You can't use a smartphone without it!.
You're not wrong by still using GB, definetly not!
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totally agree.ICS can beat gingerbread in many ways
Face recognizition (i know gingerbread have this but its better on ics)
better UI speed (because of Ui now can use GPU)
and many things i cant remember now.
and about free ram..236 mb free..
now which is better?only better way of gingerbread is multitasking.and ics can beat in several ways.
sorry for my bad english.

with regards to speed, i would have to say that ICS has the edge; I have never had such a smooth experince while browsing and multitasking on GB as I do on ICS. I am currently using DK3 with Devil2 0.71 sio w/ ondemand gov w/ sampling down step @ 5.

nitrous² said:
I guess it strongly depends on your favors and focus. I'm using ICS since the first days of onecosmics and teamhacksungs ICS roms. ICS has a bunch of goodies and gimmicks but nothing for that you'd say: You can't use a smartphone without it!.
You're not wrong by still using GB, definetly not!
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I can't use a smartphone without it. Ever since I changed over to ics I can't go a day on gb, even with the bugs.
If you like my posts hit thanks
Rom: Dark knight 4
Kernel: Devil Kernel
Keep it ANDROID!!!!!!!!

What about battery life? Does the usage of gpu for ui decrease battery life? How much of a hassle is it to switch from jw5 to ics: can you use your titanium backups at least for user apps?

DocMarc73 said:
What about battery life? Does the usage of gpu for ui decrease battery life? How much of a hassle is it to switch from jw5 to ics: can you use your titanium backups at least for user apps?
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I get at least 24 hours usage with ICS. Switching isn't too much hassle, backup with titanium, do a nandroid in CWM, wipe, install ics rom, boot, restore titanium backups.
If anything goes wrong or you want to go back: flash stock JW5, flash kernel with recovery, restore nandroid.

Ics has some features that take your device to a next level.The only think that I don't like is the battery drain.
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sebxtreme said:
Ics has some features that take your device to a next level.The only think that I don't like is the battery drain.
You forgot to mention that the camera is much worst in ICS
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~UnderTaker~ said:
totally agree.ICS can beat gingerbread in many ways
Face recognizition (i know gingerbread have this but its better on ics)
better UI speed (because of Ui now can use GPU)
and many things i cant remember now.
and about free ram..236 mb free..
now which is better?only better way of gingerbread is multitasking.and ics can beat in several ways.
sorry for my bad english.
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what rom is that?? is it slim ics

yahyoh said:
what rom is that?? is it slim ics
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ICSSGS RC4.2 + Devil2 XL kernel.

Im comparing Slim ICS with Darky 10.4.2
With ICS you get better UI experiences.. Smooth and fast..
Browsing is much, much better..
Easy customizable toggles
Easy screenshot
What I dont like:
Camera sucks(less features), cant silent
Battery drains faster
1 lockscreen
Cant join contacts
When ppl call in, picture gets truncated
Default Gallery cant play my AVI files
I will try other ICS roms and decide whether to stick with ICS..

Sure you can join contacts use contapps! I find it the best to sync and join contacts.
+ it has free sms to other contapps users
Tapatalk on S2 "where's the beef"

gila2 said:
Im comparing Slim ICS with Darky 10.4.2
With ICS you get better UI experiences.. Smooth and fast..
Browsing is much, much better..
Easy customizable toggles
Easy screenshot
What I dont like:
Camera sucks(less features), cant silent
Battery drains faster
1 lockscreen
Cant join contacts
When ppl call in, picture gets truncated
Default Gallery cant play my AVI files
I will try other ICS roms and decide whether to stick with ICS..
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You don't know what you are saying.
I already used several releases of ICS (AOKP, AOSP, DK, MIUI) and the camera is great and you can silent. About drains, it happen, but depend the type of use. Why you need a different lockscreen? You can join contacts, i already done that. About contact pic, there is another method to override that, it calls HaxSync, by default google don't store high-res pic in contacts.

I'll stay on stock XXJW4.. Satisfies my needs and camera is awesome xD. And I can play several HD games that won't run on ICS
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Both have qualities and lacks... with GB and its roms come a superb battery-life, ICS lets you reach evening with a (not much) strong use, but nothing more.
I upgraded to ICS for curiosity, and the only thing i miss is ofc that feature. Wouldn't ever return to GB though: the rest is better on ICS, from UI to browsing

I could never think of going back to a GB rom...
First, with ICS, I finally have that feeling of maturity that the OS wasn't able to provide with previous release.
Second, hardware acceleration alone is worth the switch IMHO.
Third, RFS on Samsung's roms... can't stand it's performance degradation over time and lagfixes are just like Band-aid on an open fracture.
Fourth, kernel devs have pretty much all moved to developping ICS versions of their kernel leaving GB versions to lag behind.
Yes there are a few glitches here and there, but nothing that can prevent me from doing whatever I used to do on Eclair/Froyo/Gingerbread.
The biggest issue with ICS is with deep idle and that's only if you use your phone to listen to music... which is not my case. But then again, if you take some time to read carefully, it is possible to make work quite easilly.
As for the camera thing... you need to compare apples to apples!
As far as I can tell, the camera app used in each and every ICS builds out there is the AOSP camera whereas the camera app in Eclair/Froyo/Gingerbread roms is the one developped by Samsung... not the AOSP one.
Finally, with respect to battery life, i'm using team ICSSGS RC4.2 with Semaphore 1.0.0s kernel and, really, I can't really see any difference. I get the usual 24-30h of battery life I always had before.

There is a lot of truth in many of the posts for and against GB/ICS. I was extremely happy with Darky's ROM, but after seeing the amount of devs playing with ICS I finally took the plunge. ICS I have to say has not been smooth. Many things work well as has been mentioned already e.g. smooth UI etc. But for me few of the many ICS variants work 100% compared to the stabilty of DRom 10.4.2 or JW4 with Semaphore.
My vote for the best ICS variants are Slim ICS as it is stripped down and works and EXTRAOrdinary ICS which is an AOSP. However even with these, the battery life is not as good I have found with GB. Also using a bluetooth car receiver somehow keeps on FC ICS.
I believe the Semaphore Kernel is still the best although I am now trying Icy Glitch.
Watch this space........

I need a hell of performance. And your help.

I need some advice:
I used Ramhack for a quiet long time now. The negative point of loosing performance for 3D-Applications (Games, Benchmarks..) is comprehensible and in my honest opinion totally acceptable. Next to the Optimus Speed I have a Dell Streak 7, where gaming overall is less complicated and I gain much more performance with this tablet (how ever..). So, you can see, is the p-990 aimed for my everyday use. Every day use means smooth, quick response, less random reboots for me. I need every freakin second my tools need to boot up, close applications, etc...
I want to do quick calls without a tip on the Task-Killer-widged before.
Currently I'm on Nova HD ICS. I really enjoy it, so I would prefer to stay on this rom.
So my big question:
Is there a way to get Ramhack on the Domination rom? Or maybe do you guys have other options for me?
I love this rom, so I really want to stay. But I need a hell of performance. Gaming is well placed on my tablet, so we dont need to take any consideration about it. Even if I need to type 3 freakin pages of code into the terminal. It's ok. I need speed and smooth response...
Thanks in advance!

You say that you love the ICS rom you're using, but assumes that it doesn't have the performance you need, right?
So, basically, your question is : " is there a way to make CM9 as faster as CM7?" The answer: no.
ICS has, by nature, a heavy hardware resources demand. I've tested a couple of CM9 roms out there and they're all fast at first sight, but the multitasking feature isnt performing right. Because our device has only 512mb of ram. So, that means you won't be able to alternate between 3~4 apps instantly, just because the ICS itself already uses a big part of your ram. You can try the V6 Supercharger for ICS script, but I do not believe it will magically turn your cm9 into a cm7.
Unless nvidia/lg release the hwa drivers for ICS, if you want a rock solid and ultra fast device you should use CM7. I recommend Temasek's unofficial builds, they're just awesome.
Cheers
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You could just flash a new kernel. There are some CM9 kernels that offer the ramhack option. Cool.guy is right though. CM9 is slower than CM7 because of the missing hardware acceleration etc. Just use Temasek's latest CM7 build. Fastest ROM I've ever used!
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cool.guy said:
I recommend Temasek's unofficial builds, they're just awesome.
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xExabyte said:
Just use Temasek's latest CM7 build. Fastest ROM I've ever used!
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Thanks guys!
Okay, downloaded right now - should I use his OC'ed kernel too?

soXXeth said:
Thanks guys!
Okay, downloaded right now - should I use his OC'ed kernel too?
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For me non-oc kernel is good but its your choice for which kernel your battery live longer and experience smoothness
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[Discussion] - Best Custom Rom / Kernel

Hello Proud user of LG Optimus 4x HD,
Now that we have '' Unlocked Bootloader '' and our beloved phone is being looked after some '' Great Developers '' let's have a look at the ''Features, Functions and Disabilites'' about all this stuff being Developed around here. This thread is open to all who want to make suggestions or express his/her experience about any Particular Rom / Kernel.
So happy Discussing.
Have a nice Day/Evening.

I'm using the latest cm rom and change from time to time between the werewolf and the ph85 kernel. Everything works fine
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I am using the latest official CM10.1 Nightly build and play around it for 3 days. It is really great. Compare it with Stock LG 20B JB. I found
The pros-
1, The speed and response of UI, open up apps, web browsing and etc. improved a lot!!!
2, Less heat is generated
3, A lot better battery life.
4, A lot more control on everything.
5, Officially support FB home and it runs perfectly (You can even download it from the Play store)
6, seems it has better multi-tasking, at least it won't kill too many of the background apps (I have VLC direct running on background, I will always get killed on stock LG rom, but on CM10.1, it will still running while I am doing something else)
7, Better and more pretty UI.
The cons-
1, MHL output is not working correctly. (and it seems it will never work)
2, No custom ringer and notification sound.
3, All volume seems less loud than the stock
4, Media won't scan again while you unplug and plug the SD card back on.
5, Camera has less control and lower performance (HDR run slower that it really wait and take 3 slow shot to compose, no way to shut down the shutter sound, no ISO control and only +/-1 exposure control)
6, Too many option and control on setting, you might not have an idea what it really do....(maybe it is a pros for some ppls, haha)
It is just my opinion during these 3 days. Maybe some of them is just a bug or I just too new to this. Hope you guys don't mind. Even there is a lot of Cons, I think this ROM is very nice. Thanks. =)
Mike

Well I'm currently in the process of reverting to v10a. Call me crazy but if you're a gamer it's the fastest rom with 99% of games working great. Since then LG became obsessed with overheating and slowly degraded its performance. Now that I'm unlocked I'm going to see if it's possible to use proper clockworkmod on this rom, if it works maybe someone can port some custom kernel features. JB and cm10.1 are still great though and I plan to continue experimenting with them as more stuff is developed
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I have also switched a lot in this last month or so but just in between Stock, CM10,1 and Werewolf Rom.
1. For me stock has the best battery results almost used phone for 40 hours or so still with some battery left and had absolute no problems at all with the baseband issue ( I hope xtribas and others who do have it get over it as soon as possible with the help of good development).
2. CM10.1 is great work and a build of devotion from its developers almost everyday comes a new nightly with some features and tweaks. Runs very smooth and till now have had not many bugs I would say some problem with baseband wakelocks here but not in Stock which I cannot explain why.
3. Werewolf's Rom one of my fellow Countrymen is Fantastic I really appreciate his work, time and efforts. It's an awsome Rom fast, stable almost reliable like stock. It will be best Rom after Stock I guess.
I am not a Gamer so sorry to all Gamers I don't know how is the Gaming Life on this Phone (with all due respect to @non4 and others, I hope you guys get best out of this phone with the help of our Clever Developing Team.) In between I do play games but on my Laptop ( Acer Aspire V3-771G, intel i7-3610QM 2,3 GHz, 16GB RAM, 1,2 TB HDD, NVIDIA Geforce GT 650M )
Happy Discussion Guys

I'm using CM and change kernel from time to time between the werewolf and iodak.

Update: flashing clockworkmod on ICS gives the notorious security error, for it to work the ROM would have to be repacked to a flashable format like zaiben. And the eternity project kernel just got updated, based on feedback I may have to go back to JB already
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@non4 said:
Update: flashing clockworkmod on ICS gives the notorious security error, for it to work the ROM would have to be repacked to a flashable format like zaiben. And the eternity project kernel just got updated, based on feedback I may have to go back to JB already
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Wifi still doesn't works on Ethernity Kernel for CM..?

i use rom stock v20c with ph85 kernel, really stable and really good performance
(sorry for my bad english)

@non4 said:
Well I'm currently in the process of reverting to v10a. Call me crazy but if you're a gamer it's the fastest rom with 99% of games working great. Since then LG became obsessed with overheating and slowly degraded its performance. Now that I'm unlocked I'm going to see if it's possible to use proper clockworkmod on this rom, if it works maybe someone can port some custom kernel features. JB and cm10.1 are still great though and I plan to continue experimenting with them as more stuff is developed
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After next time you revert to v10a (you seem to switch back and forth a lot ), would you mind packing up and uploading the files in /system/lib? I need them, but really would like to avoid having to flash back to v10a/h at the moment. It seems that LG's ICS builds are currently the only builds with properly working MHL and it is likely it has to do with the included tegra libraries.
I am even more interested in these files for v10h (although the relevant files may be the same), if anyone has easy access to them.

Wenque said:
After next time you revert to v10a (you seem to switch back and forth a lot ), would you mind packing up and uploading the files in /system/lib? I need them, but really would like to avoid having to flash back to v10a/h at the moment. It seems that LG's ICS builds are currently the only builds with properly working MHL and it is likely it has to do with the included tegra libraries.
I am even more interested in these files for v10h (although the relevant files may be the same), if anyone has easy access to them.
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Unlikely. v20 performs as well with iodak, and better with kholks kernel
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Hi there @non4 can you please explain some main differences between some of the Roms and Kernels you have tried so far, which is good and in which way like battery life, usage, and which is not so good and needs to be looked at? I ask you because I think you have switched around a lot (sorry if I am wrong) and have tested directly from some of the Great Develeopers around.
Just a small submission of your experience would be enough
Thanks

sPEADy said:
Hi there @non4 can you please explain some main differences between some of the Roms and Kernels you have tried so far, which is good and in which way like battery life, usage, and which is not so good and needs to be looked at? I ask you because I think you have switched around a lot (sorry if I am wrong) and have tested directly from some of the Great Develeopers around.
Just a small submission of your experience would be enough
Thanks
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v10a stock: pure speed, awful battery
v20a stock: Better than v10h, but not as fast as v10a
v20a with iodak kernel: Good battery, close to v10a performance
v20a with kholks kernel: Fastest experience but currently too buggy
CM10.1: Faster in some games, but slower in others, battery OK and some nice features
CM10.1 with werewolf kernel: Solves some of the lags at cost of battery
PACMAN: Not a gamers ROM but fun to play around wit
ZAIBEN: Just like stock without the bloat
That enough??
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@non4
Have you tried the latest CM10.1 nightly? I just flashed it last night and I had no issues with Deep Sleep, Runs very Smooth and Battery Life is Good. Last night I unpluged it at round about 10:30 PM and today Morning at 9 I just lost 2% of battery so I think its not bad 0.2% overnight.
I guess I will try this:
v20a with iodak kernel: Good battery, close to v10a performance
and I am gonna try
Iodaks Kernel with CM10.1
and lets see what comes out. I have a long weekend to play with because Monday is Holiday here in Germany

sPEADy said:
@non4
Have you tried the latest CM10.1 nightly? I just flashed it last night and I had no issues with Deep Sleep, Runs very Smooth and Battery Life is Good. Last night I unpluged it at round about 10:30 PM and today Morning at 9 I just lost 2% of battery so I think its not bad 0.2% overnight.
I guess I will try this:
v20a with iodak kernel: Good battery, close to v10a performance
and I am gonna try
Iodaks Kernel with CM10.1
and lets see what comes out. I have a long weekend to play with because Monday is Holiday here in Germany
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When I see some optimization to the I/O speed which will hopefully fix the remaining stutters then I will try, I CBA with moving my stuff to the right folders and restoring all my apps . Try its a good combo! Nice core usage and performs like kholks old 3.1.10 alpha
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I have flashed the iodak's kernel with latest CM 10.1 Nightly and I must say it's a great Combination from Developers and Battery life is nice as well. Have a look.
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@non4 said:
v10a stock: pure speed, awful battery
v20a stock: Better than v10h, but not as fast as v10a
v20a with iodak kernel: Good battery, close to v10a performance
v20a with kholks kernel: Fastest experience but currently too buggy
CM10.1: Faster in some games, but slower in others, battery OK and some nice features
CM10.1 with werewolf kernel: Solves some of the lags at cost of battery
PACMAN: Not a gamers ROM but fun to play around wit
ZAIBEN: Just like stock without the bloat
That enough??
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Hey Thanks for this Summary... I was waiting for something like this to decide if I go into CM10.1 or Stay in Stock with a Different Kernel :good:

I think best kernel for now is the stock kernel because the custom aren't ready 100%

baltobalto said:
I think best kernel for now is the stock kernel because the custom aren't ready 100%
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I have used nightly and iodak's combination for couple of weeks and I am very happy with the using experience. Battery life is much better than stock and gaming is no laggish. Currently I am using Arararagi's unoffical version so I can still use LG's quicknote and Memo which are only things I want to use from the stock. thanks for Arararagi, make me love CM more. Werewolf kernel also great but I found iodak's better for me. Any way you won't regret to move to CM.

Official jb rom and ioak kernel at the moment. I like lg keyboard and the battery drain is less than cm.
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I moved back to 4.0.3

After trying many Roms...i decided moving back to 4.0.3
Now my phone works well ,Super fast ,and very very Smooth. It seems that JB "4.1.2" is making Lg 4x HD very slow... cyanogenmod too...
Im running ics "4.0.3 v10B"
I was thinking 4.1.2 will be better
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and why should we care?

theofficialpimp said:
and why should we care?
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Don't be so rude, he's just reporting. I admit that he should have tell us a bit more about the different performances but this is a forum ! He is reporting something so that users who are in the same case could do as he did.
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im sorry for being rude

I had a few phones with Android.
I saw that the pre-installed system is almost always better than update.
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sQuAshPL said:
I had a few phones with Android.
I saw that the pre-installed system is almost always better than update.
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that's because they had all the time they have to develop a better ROM before the official launch. But once after launch whiners and babies will cry for updates so they had to rush a bit more, which sacrificed optimisation time.
Good ROM takes time. If CyanogenMod didn't have nightlies or RC - just stable releases, god it could be ages before anything from them sees light.

Life'sGood said:
that's because they had all the time they have to develop a better ROM before the official launch. But once after launch whiners and babies will cry for updates so they had to rush a bit more, which sacrificed optimisation time.
Good ROM takes time. If CyanogenMod didn't have nightlies or RC - just stable releases, god it could be ages before anything from them sees light.
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Maybe LG is working on.4.2.2 yet and want a perfect 4.2.2 so they dont.tell anything and working very long ... and it takes time
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GalaxyVolvoZ said:
Maybe LG is working on.4.2.2 yet and want a perfect 4.2.2 so they dont.tell anything and working very long ... and it takes time
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You're dreaming dude IMO we won't get official 4.2.2 nor 4.3
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Mm, probably not, but why is it shocking to you all that 4.0.3 is faster? :s The lower the android version, the less resources it needs because it has less features, less processes, looks worse, lower demand for high quality rendering etc etc.
Think about it, would running 4.3 be as fast as running 2.3.x on it?
In my eyes, the lower the android version, the "Faster" it will appear.. Also, post some benchmarks of v10, and we can compare them to a benchmark of 4.3?
Edit1:"Optimizations" You mean they add placebo to the stock rom? fact is, CM9 will be faster then V10, and CM10 will be faster then V20. Say they release V30 as 4.2.2, you can bet your ass CM10.1 would be faster, v40 as 4.3, CM10.2 would be faster. v50 as 4.4 say, CM11? Would probably be faster than it.

penguin449 said:
Mm, probably not, but why is it shocking to you all that 4.0.3 is faster? :s The lower the android version, the less resources it needs because it has less features, less processes, looks worse, lower demand for high quality rendering etc etc.
Think about it, would running 4.3 be as fast as running 2.3.x on it?
In my eyes, the lower the android version, the "Faster" it will appear.. Also, post some benchmarks of v10, and we can compare them to a benchmark of 4.3?
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No higher Android better Performence. Because it has more features, and can handle the Hardware better. For Example I mean Android 1 Beta dont support Dual Core Processor. Because the Rom doesnt detect it. And Android 4.3 can handle Bluetooth 4.0 and can handle the Ram and Processes better. Like compare windows 2000 with Windows 7 64 Bit.
If the Hardware Requirements is ok, we can have the full Power of it with good Android Version.
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GalaxyVolvoZ said:
No higher Android better Performence. Because it has more features, and can handle the Hardware better. For Example I mean Android 1 Beta dont support Dual Core Processor. Because the Rom doesnt detect it. And Android 4.3 can handle Bluetooth 4.0 and can handle the Ram and Processes better. Like compare windows 2000 with Windows 7 64 Bit.
If the Hardware Requirements is ok, we can have the full Power of it with good Android Version
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W.T.F. :banghead:
Did you really just try arguing that?

For me the stock rom 4.0.3 was fast but had alot of lag issues when installing apps, closing apps etc.. Now on stable cm 10.1 i got no issues at all and my battery life doubled.
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SimonTS said:
W.T.F. :banghead:
Did you really just try arguing that?
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There is some truth when it comes to 4.3. For me cm10.2 is like lightning even compared to v10a. v10a ICS was pretty fast, but not as good as this. Its the best rom from LG with no tinkering though
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Well try to use CM 10.1.3 latest with iodak v7.. U feel much difference!!! Its much battery friendly and Smooth

I moved back too, but to "official" 4.1.2 not 4.0.3. im using Jellyfish HD 1.3 (with iodak kernel) and its great. Finally MHL works, camera is awesome, video recording is smooth not like on cm. everything is smooth and battery life is much much better. I don't need to worry anymore if something will not work (like on 4.2 customs)
oh and games are more laggy, thats only one disadvantage

Sorry but we need to differentiate between pure android and OEM modified android. There is no possible way pure ICS is smoother/faster than later pure android versions. Resource management has only improved in newer versions of android. Hence low end devices always experience a performance improvement from newer aosp based Roms, from their latest stock firmware. Its common that OEMS introduce poor code, bugs etc that may take from the user experence in newer versions of their firmware, this is possibly the case of our device. Although there is a very minimal difference between stock 4.1 android and custom ROM/ kernels in terms of battery vs performance(other devices I own, the difference is night and day.). Which indicates lg done a great job of android 4.1 on our device.

JoinTheRealms said:
Sorry but we need to differentiate between pure android and OEM modified android. There is no possible way pure ICS is smoother/faster than later pure android versions. Resource management has only improved in newer versions of android. Hence low end devices always experience a performance improvement from newer aosp based Roms, from their latest stock firmware. Its common that OEMS introduce poor code, bugs etc that may take from the user experence in newer versions of their firmware, this is possibly the case of our device. Although there is a very minimal difference between stock 4.1 android and custom ROM/ kernels in terms of battery vs performance(other devices I own, the difference is night and day.). Which indicates lg done a great job of android 4.1 on our device.
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That's total rubbish. I've seen nexus 7 users get worse and worse lag as they upgrade. That's pure android straight from Google! Nexus 4 users too. 4.3 Does have optimizations, and good ones at that. Its bloody fast no ****. But I've never seen a direct correlation between higher android version and smoother performance. Never. And I've had too many phones due to breakages. I knew a guy who swore by froyo when cm10 was available, because it was bloat free and smooth. Just because new bloat isn't directly visible doesn't mean it isn't there.
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That's total rubbish. I've seen nexus 7 users get worse and worse lag as they upgrade. That's pure android straight from Google! Nexus 4 users too. 4.3 Does have optimizations, and good ones at that. Its bloody fast no ****. But I've never seen a direct correlation between higher android version and smoother performance. Never. And I've had too many phones due to breakages. I knew a guy who swore by froyo when cm10 was available, because it was bloat free and smooth. Just because new bloat isn't directly visible doesn't mean it isn't there.
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Do you seriously think google push crazy amounts of money into making a worse os than they had? I agree, and said in my previous post that updates occationally brake things, Its understandable for the android ecosystem(im not saying its accepable, i pisses me of and ive experenced it myself.)
Each update is a net good for android, btw google isnt bloating android, oems are responsiable for that, and oftern ruin what would have been a good update for a device. ICS on this device was better for gaming, but it distroyed battery , JB fixed that found a better balance.
I know people who still cling to windows xp, some day they will have to reliese, underling windows 8 is a much improved os.(no matter how much they or I disagree with the interface)

timon12 said:
I moved back too, but to "official" 4.1.2 not 4.0.3. im using Jellyfish HD 1.3 (with iodak kernel) and its great. Finally MHL works, camera is awesome, video recording is smooth not like on cm. everything is smooth and battery life is much much better. I don't need to worry anymore if something will not work (like on 4.2 customs)
oh and games are more laggy, thats only one disadvantage
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Please can you link me to Jellyfish ?
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ectoplasma22 said:
Please can you link me to Jellyfish ?
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http://dlbase.seo-fuerst.de/?dir=LG-Forum/LG-P880/Jellyfish HD/Jellyfish Versionen/v1.3/

Gingerbread or ICS for speed

I want my phone to be as fast as possible....Whats the best choice?Maybe froyo is "faster" than gingerbread?Thank you

How do you mainly use your phone? Is it for gaming, or everyday email, music etc?
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sioneng said:
How do you mainly use your phone? Is it for gaming, or everyday email, music etc?
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I'm running the CM 10.1 (Jellybean 4.22) FINAL stable. Its fast - sometimes but often the phone really lags when switch tasks, from say shazam app or whatsapp to phone contacts, and gives a black screen with no response for a while. Its very frustrating. The video also lags when recording and drops many frames. I am wondering also if the phone really is faster on ICS or even gingerbread. Yes its cool to run the latest but really for everyday use we want the phone to be as fast as poss.
Maybe someone can come and confirm this is just a bad config and later roms are ok or the solution is ICS for the OP

I mainly use my phone for facebook and internet...

IMO you should stick with GB mate if you want your phone to be as fast as possible. Gigabread+ is my favourite gb rom.

pavlos77 said:
I want my phone to be as fast as possible....Whats the best choice?Maybe froyo is "faster" than gingerbread?Thank you
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Well I'm using CM10.2 nightly. It is definetly faster than ICS. I have two devices for comparison. I would say that it is even faster than GB. If you want to record 720p I would recommend to stay with GB, becaus in CM video recording is worse than in stock. In my config the battery drain with CM10.2 is higher than it was with GB.