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Recently bought a Samsung I897 Captivate. Its a unlocked phone and I'm using it in Argentina with Movistar. My previous phone was a Motorola Milestone, and it sometimes changed the connection from 3G / HSDPA to 2G (EDGE), in 3G areas. The solution was to go to APN settings, enable "2G only", then disabling it, and the phone instantly switched to 3G again.
However, the Captivate doesn't have such option. Setting the phone to Flight Mode its useless, it will keep connecting in 2G.
Only solution I found at the moment was to go to Network Mode (*#0011#) then navigate to Network Control => Band Selection, selecting WCDMA only, and then enabling Automatic again.
That seems to reset the connection.
I searched in the market for free and paid apps to help me fix this issue, but I found nothing, only the Toggle 2G app, but it only works with Cyanogen Mod.
I have some questions:
If I set the connection to WCDMA only, then I'll have no signal at all in 2G areas, right?.
Does anyone know a quicker way to do this?. I tried to make a shortcut to ServiceMode with dg Quickcut but when I try to open it it crashed the phone.
Thanks in advance.
Whipon.
Whipon said:
Recently bought a Samsung I897 Captivate. Its a unlocked phone and I'm using it in Argentina with Movistar. My previous phone was a Motorola Milestone, and it sometimes changed the connection from 3G / HSDPA to 2G (EDGE), in 3G areas. The solution was to go to APN settings, enable "2G only", then disabling it, and the phone instantly switched to 3G again.
However, the Captivate doesn't have such option. Setting the phone to Flight Mode its useless, it will keep connecting in 2G.
Only solution I found at the moment was to go to Network Mode (*#0011#) then navigate to Network Control => Band Selection, selecting WCDMA only, and then enabling Automatic again.
That seems to reset the connection.
I searched in the market for free and paid apps to help me fix this issue, but I found nothing, only the Toggle 2G app, but it only works with Cyanogen Mod.
I have some questions:
If I set the connection to WCDMA only, then I'll have no signal at all in 2G areas, right?.
Does anyone know a quicker way to do this?. I tried to make a shortcut to ServiceMode with dg Quickcut but when I try to open it it crashed the phone.
Thanks in advance.
Whipon.
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as of right now, there is no "fix" for this. the best you COULD do is to flash Eugene's VibrantHybrid ROM where the "use 2g networks only" option does exist, but you'll lose GPS (for now)
Kaik541 said:
as of right now, there is no "fix" for this. the best you COULD do is to flash Eugene's VibrantHybrid ROM where the "use 2g networks only" option does exist, but you'll lose GPS (for now)
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Thanks for the quick reply Kaik541.
Does the signal strength improve with that rom?.
Currently I'm using I897UCJH7 from samfirmware.
Whipon said:
Thanks for the quick reply Kaik541.
Does the signal strength improve with that rom?.
Currently I'm using I897UCJH7 from samfirmware.
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you should revert back to JH3 if you're going to use Hybrid (I don't believe JH7 is compatible yet, there are some issues that cropped up with SRE, so it would be safer to do JH3, or even better JF6). I've seen slightly better reception and MUCH better battery life running Hybrid
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you should revert back to JH3 if you're going to use Hybrid (I don't believe JH7 is compatible yet, there are some issues that cropped up with SRE, so it would be safer to do JH3, or even better JF6). I've seen slightly better reception and MUCH better battery life running Hybrid
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It seems it will be updated soon.
Maybe I'll give it a try.
Do you know if it removes the 850 band?.
I need it, because my carrier uses it for WCDMA.
Try this:
1. In the Market, download Any Cut. (This is a free app) 2. open Any Cut and choose New Shortcut 3. select Activity 4. Scroll down the list until you get to Phone Info 5. Select OK. (this will place the short cut on your homescreen) 6. Open the shortcut and scroll down until you see "Set Preferred Network Type" 7. Choose GSM only and you are set. This forces the phone to EGDE
I used this to force edge. Use google to download AnyCut, it doesn't exist on the market for the unknown reason
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I just discovered Juice Defender. One of its features is to set phone to 2G automatically (seems very configurable). I haven't really had a chance to test it, but thought I'd mention it to you anyway
DarkVasyaK said:
Try this:
1. In the Market, download Any Cut. (This is a free app) 2. open Any Cut and choose New Shortcut 3. select Activity 4. Scroll down the list until you get to Phone Info 5. Select OK. (this will place the short cut on your homescreen) 6. Open the shortcut and scroll down until you see "Set Preferred Network Type" 7. Choose GSM only and you are set. This forces the phone to EGDE
I used this to force edge. Use google to download AnyCut, it doesn't exist on the market for the unknown reason
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Thanks a lot. I use dg Quickcut for that.
But, I don't need to force EDGE, I need a way to force 3G .
The phone usually switchs to EDGE in 3G areas, and I need to change it back to 3G.
I've used your suggestion to make such shortcut, changed it to WCDMA only, clicked the Disable Radio button twice (because it didn't changed to 3G), and when it switched back to 3G, I changed back the network to GSM / CDMA auto.
What about WCDMA preferred?. Will it try to allways connect to 3G?.
can yall not just dial * # * # 4636 #*#* scroll to the bottom and chnage it there, just so happens i posted a how to earlier in the general section, works on stock ROMS afaik.
also GPS still works
Whipon said:
Thanks a lot. I use dg Quickcut for that.
But, I don't need to force EDGE, I need a way to force 3G .
The phone usually switchs to EDGE in 3G areas, and I need to change it back to 3G.
I've used your suggestion to make such shortcut, changed it to WCDMA only, clicked the Disable Radio button twice (because it didn't changed to 3G), and when it switched back to 3G, I changed back the network to GSM / CDMA auto.
What about WCDMA preferred?. Will it try to allways connect to 3G?.
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read my previous post.
it has a WCDMA preferred WDMA only (only uses 3g) and a bunch of others. read my post in general for a more detailed explanation.
Thanks a lot
xatrekak said:
can yall not just dial * # * # 4636 #*#* scroll to the bottom and chnage it there, just so happens i posted a how to earlier in the general section, works on stock ROMS afaik.
also GPS still works
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Thanks, but Mesasone pointed me to a great app in the market.
Its called Samservmode. It opens service mode without entering any codes.
Anyways, thanks for your help .
I'm currently using CM 6.1.2 on my Milestone.
If I switch to 2G mode in the mobile network settings, I have no connection.
If I use the Toggle 2G app, it doesn't seem to really do anything. If I set 2G to use one of the options that don't disconnect me (WCDMA, CDMA or GSM 2g/3g) it still shows 3G in the status bar so I'm not sure what the point is in using the Toggle 2G app.
Wondering the same thing myself...
Does anyone knows the answer?
zeppelinrox said:
I'm currently using CM 6.1.2 on my Milestone.
If I switch to 2G mode in the mobile network settings, I have no connection.
If I use the Toggle 2G app, it doesn't seem to really do anything. If I set 2G to use one of the options that don't disconnect me (WCDMA, CDMA or GSM 2g/3g) it still shows 3G in the status bar so I'm not sure what the point is in using the Toggle 2G app.
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I am not certain about this (i use rogers), but i believe that telus has no 2G (edge) network. They built a 3G only network just in time for the olympics to replace their cdma network:
So the toggler probably cant find a valid connection and retries 3G.
Manual mode cant find a network at all.
On rogers, i can fallback to 2g. This is normal according to what i think i know.
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thanks for the info.
That's what I thought so have given up on the idea of getting 2g to work
I guess when it comes to 3g and saving battery life, juice defender will have to do as it can turn off data when the screen is off but still have the phone working.
Well, I think I made some progress with this.
On my phone, I was also loosing the connection when switching from 3G to 2G but it's working now. I can get calls, it's only the data aver 2G that doesn't work now.
I have the Cronos rom on my phone, I can tell you what I did if you're interested.
Yes please do.
If it works on cm6 then at least I can also save juice by not using juice defender... oh the irony... lol
edit: hey look at all them Canadian flags, eh?!
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Took me a lot of time to find the right switches combination.
Anyway, I have Toggle 2G auto managing the 2G/3G and for the bottom 2 options:
2G network: WCDMA preferred (3G/2G)
3G network: GSM auto (PRL)(2G/3G)
If I check under Setting/About/Phone/Status, I see written mobile network type UMTS.
Hmm... I had those 2 settings reversed when using toggly2g
I will try that.
Right now, my mobile network type shows up as HSPA.
Your post prompted me to find the difference and came up with these 2 useful pages just before my head exploded.
Awesome thread: http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1600012-HSPA-vs.-UMTS
Handy chart at the bottom of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Mobile_Telecommunications_System
s0ulreaver said:
Well, I think I made some progress with this.
On my phone, I was also loosing the connection when switching from 3G to 2G but it's working now. I can get calls, it's only the data aver 2G that doesn't work now.
I have the Cronos rom on my phone, I can tell you what I did if you're interested.
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Is this not the same then as just shutting off data?
Caz666 said:
Is this not the same then as just shutting off data?
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Not sure but I don't think so. You can turn off the data but have the phone connected to the 3G network, right?
I think you could get data over 2G but it's just very slow, right?
With Telus I don't think they allow data over 2G.
zeppelinrox, I wonder why yours shows like this, what do you have active under those settings?
What ROMs are you guys using?
zeppelinrox said:
Hmm... I had those 2 settings reversed when using toggly2g
I will try that.
Right now, my mobile network type shows up as HSPA.
Your post prompted me to find the difference and came up with these 2 useful pages just before my head exploded.
Awesome thread: http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1600012-HSPA-vs.-UMTS
Handy chart at the bottom of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Mobile_Telecommunications_System
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When I'm on 2G it shows as UMTS
With 3G (mobile data enabled) I see it alternating from 3G/UMTS to H/HSPA.
I'm on CM6.
My phone always shows HSPA except if I set it to use 2G then it shows GPRS - which is when I have no data and no phone signal.
I did use the Telus baseband file in AOR though... I wonder how it will behave if I use the Canada baseband....
Also, here's a neat trick....
dial *#*#4636#*#*
A Testing App will show up....
Select Phone Information and then goto the bottom.
You can set your preferred Network type.
Ok so that listbox shows all the different options.
The only options that will save are:
GSM only (2g - I get nothing - shows as GPRS)
WCDMA only (3g - shows as HSPA)
GSM auto (PRL) - (3g - shows as HSPA as well)
All the other options either are not selectable or just revert back to GSM auto (as is the case with WCDMA preferred)
I just did a few speed tests and I seem to get faster speeds with GSM auto than I do with WCDMA only
Gonna try that Canada baseband now....
Edit: Same thing. Except the speed test is slower for both WCDMA and GSM autio so best off using the Telus baseband.
The dial trick doesn't work. I dial the sequence as a phone number, right?
It disappears then nothing changes.
ah.. yeah sometimes it takes 2 or 3 tries...
do you use adw launcher?
If so, you can actually create a shortcut for it... I figured it out today.
1 Press and hold on homescreen and select Custom shortcut
2 Press "Pick your activity"
3 Select the second item on the list ie. Activities (with the ADW icon)
4 Wait for all stuff to load, scroll down to Settings, and press the arrow next to it to see the long list of activites that Settings.apk can do.
5 Scroll down near the end of the list, you will see Testing(.TestingSettings)
6. Select that and press OK on the next window.
I also made one for Battery History, which is actually part of the Testing app but is usually only accessible through Spare Parts.
I still can't get the trick to work... doesn't do anything on my phone
Right now I'm on the 2501 rom (latest 2.2.1 from Motorola) and I can say it's the best I've tested so far!
Outstanding battery life!
I found another way to run Testing App.
With Google gesture search you can set it to launch Settings actions
Let it scan and then write "testing" on the screen
Edit: oh crap I mistyped the code.
Its *#*#4636#*#*
I had 4536 before so I fixed it
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zeppelinrox said:
I'm currently using CM 6.1.2 on my Milestone.
If I switch to 2G mode in the mobile network settings, I have no connection.
If I use the Toggle 2G app, it doesn't seem to really do anything. If I set 2G to use one of the options that don't disconnect me (WCDMA, CDMA or GSM 2g/3g) it still shows 3G in the status bar so I'm not sure what the point is in using the Toggle 2G app.
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Well, after doing some more tests and trying different apps (2G/3G switchers) I can say those apps work only if your cell phone company has both 2G/3G network.
In Montreal, only Rogers has both.
Easy to test (btw: I'm using the FroyoMOD rom): go in "Settings" -> "Wireless & Networks" -> "Mobile Network Settings" and check "Use only 2G networks".
See if your cell phone company is listed when you do a search under "Network Operators". If it's not, don't bother using a 2G/3G switcher.
When doing this, in Montreal I see only Rogers listed. If I uncheck "Use only 2G networks" I see all 3 of them: Bell, Telus and Rogers.
Hope this helps!
Hi folks
Today I got my i9305 (swapped for i9300).
I'm not interested at all in 4G, it's the 2GB ram i was craving for. Anyways, is it possible to disable 4g completely?
I read 3G and 4G both use the same chip/antenna and therefore disabling 4g is not possible without killing 3g too. Is that true? Would be a bit of a bummer but in the end I stick to edge anyways and fire 3g/4g only up when really needed and disable it asap.
Also, I read the new 3g/4g chip is more energy hungry than the 3g-only chip, even if only 3g networks are selected.
Can someone elaborate on this?
I dont think there is a big difference in battery performance
You can choose WCDMA only on the mobile network options and 4G will be off. I'm not sure if 2G will be off too, though.
Perseus Kernel has some lte energy tweaks.
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shaz2sxy said:
I dont think there is a big difference in battery performance
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You are dead wrong.
LTE is power hungry, the i9305 has the same battery as the i9300, you will notice a battery drop.
@OP, I saw somewhere the "trick" to get 4g on the nexus 4, maybe you can try that and see if it works to disable 4g? search it up, it's a code in the dialer.
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You can choose WCDMA only on the mobile network options and 4G will be off. I'm not sure if 2G will be off too, though.
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WCDMA is 3G only. GSM is 2G. The S3 is really missing a setting for WCDMA/GSM only.. this would effectively block 4G and only allow 2G, 3G, HSDPA and HSUPA. I don't need 4G, even for normal browsing HSDPA is pretty fast. Would love the WCDMA/GSM option!
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btemtd posted this in the Pandoriam thread - use at your own will and take responsibility if anything messes up
*#197328640# and then go to UMTS->Debug Screen->Phone Control->Network Control->Band Selection would be what one would want to lock only into certain bands like maybe the ones that are not lte
quantumtraveler said:
WCDMA is 3G only. GSM is 2G. The S3 is really missing a setting for WCDMA/GSM only.. this would effectively block 4G and only allow 2G, 3G, HSDPA and HSUPA. I don't need 4G, even for normal browsing HSDPA is pretty fast. Would love the WCDMA/GSM option!
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btemtd posted this in the Pandoriam thread - use at your own will and take responsibility if anything messes up
*#197328640# and then go to UMTS->Debug Screen->Phone Control->Network Control->Band Selection would be what one would want to lock only into certain bands like maybe the ones that are not lte
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cool, thanks for the hint. But I wonder, does this disable the 4G modem? I think what it does is tell the phone to ignore 4g signals in favor of 3g, but the 4g module is still on (and thus consuming power).
If the 3g and 4g modems are actually on the same chip, we're phucked :silly: I believe this is the case, but I still need someone to confirm this...
afaik 4G will only be active if your contract/the area you are in supports it.
Same scenario for 2G/3G. If your phone is on 3G it will not be using 2G at the same time. Unless you are actually on 4G your 4G is NOT active. I can easily see this as I have both the 9300 and 9305 on which I get very similar battery performance (rom dependant of course). If 4G was active then this would not be the case.
Yes LTE is power hungry but only if you are using it!!!
Point is I notice NO difference between the phones battery so do not overthink the situation and just enjoy the phone.
EDIT: Check this out, will have to see if it actually makes any difference in battery preformance though!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35073360#post35073360
chippyuk said:
afaik 4G will only be active if your contract/the area you are in supports it.
Same scenario for 2G/3G. If your phone is on 3G it will not be using 2G at the same time. Unless you are actually on 4G your 4G is NOT active. I can easily see this as I have both the 9300 and 9305 on which I get very similar battery performance (rom dependant of course). If 4G was active then this would not be the case.
Yes LTE is power hungry but only if you are using it!!!
Point is I notice NO difference between the phones battery so do not overthink the situation and just enjoy the phone.
EDIT: Check this out, will have to see if it actually makes any difference in battery preformance though!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35073360#post35073360
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Alright, thanks for your input. I'll take your word for it I just got i9305 yesterday (switched from i9300). I have yet to evaluate the battery behaviour. The WCDMA/GSM Auto option you linked to sure is a must have!
I have Korean Galaxy S3 with 2GB RAM.......from the dial pad i can enter a code and go to hidden settings menu....there i can select gsm/wcdma/lte only options.......... as I don't have a LTE connection but my operator and phone supports it.....in the beginning i got network error messages....although the network connection was always stable and i wasn't disconnected......
so what i guessed from this was that LTE modem was on and even i was connected to 3g it searched for lte and then got rejected by operator and gave error...
so i went to hidden menu and selected "WCDMA only" and now i don't get that error and always connected on 3g.....
from this i conclude that it has stopped searching for LTE connection but is the modem actually turned off.....i don't know...
maybe you can make some sense of this....
Just use a 3G sim.
I've got the LTE, and am using my previous 3G sim on a 3G plan.
You can switch off LTE by installing and app called "Phone Info" from the Play Store.
And under device info set network selection to "WCDMA Preferred". This is essentially the WCDMA/GSM option you're looking for.
I did that and my battery life is much better.
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flashvc said:
You can switch off LTE by installing and app called "Phone Info" from the Play Store.
And under device info set network selection to "WCDMA Preferred". This is essentially the WCDMA/GSM option you're looking for.
I did that and my battery life is much better.
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Yip PhoneInfo works well. You can use WCDMA preferred (this will prefer 3G/HSDPA over 2G) or GSM/CDMA PRL auto (this will go with the stronger signal)
flashvc said:
You can switch off LTE by installing and app called "Phone Info" from the Play Store.
And under device info set network selection to "WCDMA Preferred". This is essentially the WCDMA/GSM option you're looking for.
I did that and my battery life is much better.
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Do you have a 4G sim/contract as I can only see this being of benefit if you can actually use 4G or if your network supports it and it tries to connect via 4G before realising your contract does not support 4G. Otherwise it will not use 4G anyway. As I mentioned above I can easily see this as I have both the 9300 and 9305.
I do not have time at the moment but will try next week and see if it actually makes any difference to battery life. Would be nice if it does!
Yeah, I have LTE provisioned on my contract, there's nothing special about the sim though. To be honest I have no idea if the phone will try to attach on LTE and then just fail in the case that you don't have LTE provisioned and as a result use more battery?
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Guess only some good old tests will tell us but as I do not really notice any difference in battery life between the 9300 and 9305 (I do not have an LTE contract) I am not holding my breath though but hope to be pleasantly surprised!
This will information not be of much use but anyways:
I was abroad for 4 days and thus had mobile data connection turned off, only using regular cell phone connectivitgy for calls/sms and wifi in between.
The battery life was downright amazing, never managed to get it below 50% for an entire day, even when taking pictures, using wifi + whatsapp and doing calls all the time. I even did play games in between.
No surprise, but still, when mobile data is off and you rely solely on wifi, bettry life is outstanding :good:
Vipeout said:
Alright, thanks for your input. I'll take your word for it I just got i9305 yesterday (switched from i9300). I have yet to evaluate the battery behaviour. The WCDMA/GSM Auto option you linked to sure is a must have!
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Well having tested for over a full day now, I can safely say I see NO difference at all in having 4G disabled if you are not actually on 4G.
Skander1998 said:
You are dead wrong.
LTE is power hungry, the i9305 has the same battery as the i9300, you will notice a battery drop.
@OP, I saw somewhere the "trick" to get 4g on the nexus 4, maybe you can try that and see if it works to disable 4g? search it up, it's a code in the dialer.
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i dont think he is wrong at all..
I have Owned a I9300 And I have had the EXACT same battery expereince. So why is he wrong?
Your not ON LTE 24/7 it automatically picks up LTE when needed and Only if you are using the internet. I use the internet the same as the I9300 and I still had to charge my phone every night just like the I9305. I have all widgets that need Network connection and I Always have it set on auto 4g/3g/2g . 100% there is no difference at all. If I use powersaving mode and use my phone on occassion i can have it last almost 2 full days even with LTE set this is with stock kernel. And this is the same i had with the I9300 on stock rom.
But i always use the phone OC at 1700 No undervolt Always have lte on auto. And I using perseus Kenerl and i charge my phone before i sleep. Which is what i did with the I9300 when i had it OC
All this talk about dramatic battery drain.. I dont see it
So is there a problem with battery drain or not ?
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Hi
all fine on CM10.1.2, except the fact that I want to use 2g only for battery saving, and after switching to 2g only, the phone autoswitches back to 3g after a variable period of time (30 min - 1 hour). During this time, the phone is on 2g as required. I have factory resetted, formatted all the partitions, odin-ed android 2.3.6 and after that CM 10.1.2 from CWM; so all clear, but the problem with 2g/3g remains...
Any fixes please ?...
Thank you!
think you can change the settings in service mode, not sure what the code is... also you have to type it into the stock dialer to access it.
tnanks, but I want to manually and easy switch to 3g when I want. Anyway, I didn't find any working codes for secret menu...
goto "settings" then "wireless & networks" then "moble networks" then click on "use 2G network only" also select "GSM/UMTS Network preferences" and select "GSM only"
I don't find GSM/UTMS option... when I click 2G only, after a while it uncheck itself and switches back to 3G.
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I have temporary fixed it by using juicedefender. When not on wifi, it goes on 3G, so it's ok.
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try this app and set it to GSM only http://bit.ly/1caLSfU
Didn't work, but thankyou anyway... It seems that it works with android 4.3.
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Try downloading the latest release.. I think it has been fixed..
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I would like my phone to be connected to 3g all the time in order to save battery... Is there any way to do this? Changing to gsm, CDMA in network settings still gives me hspa.
Thnx
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EnIXmA said:
I would like my phone to be connected to 3g all the time in order to save battery... Is there any way to do this? Changing to gsm, CDMA in network settings still gives me hspa.
Thnx
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HSPA is still 3G. If you want you can select to use GSM only and you will only get EDGE connectivity.
Dial *#*#4636#*#* , go to phone information, and there's a dropdown which by default says WCDMA preferred. Switch that to whatever else you need. Also, remember that this setting does not stick after reboot so you need to reset it to your preference each time after you reboot your phone.
Misread, sorry.