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I've bought a used xv6600 off ebay which I'm going to convert to a carpc.
As a first time BA user, i have a few questions.
I have read the wiki/searched the forum, but I'm a bit mixed up and hence posting this thread.
installed versions on the phone:
model: PH20A2
ROM version: 1.36.00 WWE
ROM date 01/13/05
radio HA01_151
protocol AA.3.3.3.01
PRL 50619
extrom 1.36.116 WWE
hardware version 0041
a few notes:
- Its not going to be used as a phone as I can't register it with my local cellular provider (although they do support CMDA EVDO) - so I couldnt care less about if its radio works..
- Its going to be paired to a BT GPS from socket.
- the BA/xv6600 is going to be permanently mounted into the car (I'm still designing how, it would be in horizontal mode though).
- since It'll be permanently mounted, I won't (and couldnt) use the keyboard..
- audio out is going to be used to connect to an external speaker
- the BA will be charged from the car's 12v (always connected).
my questions are:
1) where could I find schematics for getting audio output (if exists), as well as where to connect the charge directly to the BA's connector.
I have only a cradle, no sync cable, which means I'd probably have to open up the BA and soldier directly, or get a connector...
2) should I connect audio out to the connector (if possible?) or the 2.5mm output on top of the device.. ?
3) I'd be interested in upgrading to WM5, I've read on the forums that it isn't possible on the CDMA versions because the radio doesnt work (or does it?). Since I don't care about the radio, could I install WM5 ? which ROM would be suitable for my BA model ?
awaiting your answers,
thanks!
Sounds like a neat project
ido said:
- the BA will be charged from the car's 12v (always connected).
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Might be a bad idea...car batteries are designed to give out high power for short periods, not low constant drains. Personally I'd connect it to the ignition circuit so it's only powered when the ACC line is live. This will also turn it off for you after X minutes if you use the "auto-power off on batteries" function. It may even turn it on for you!
1) where could I find schematics for getting audio output (if exists), as well as where to connect the charge directly to the BA's connector.
I have only a cradle, no sync cable, which means I'd probably have to open up the BA and soldier directly, or get a connector...
2) should I connect audio out to the connector (if possible?) or the 2.5mm output on top of the device.. ?
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The connector does have audio available. Buy a cable and hack it because if you mess it up you just buy another. Messing up the connector itself on the phone is more fatal. I think the schematic is on the wiki for the actual pin outs.
You might also find these useful:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Connectors
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-235616.html
yes after constant searching , i also found those threads.
Yet I'm wondering, some connectors don't include all 22 pins, but only the ones actually used for charging (for example) - and then it'll be really hard to hack them.
I guess i'll just have to hope I buy one that does have all 22 pins installed... unless you have other idea's for me.
Also, for the charger, you're right, I didn't mention that, but thats somewhat my intention.
Since the unit will be permanently mounted, I won't be able to sync it (unless I bring a laptop to my car) - could I somehow get a two SD cards installed at once to the unit ?
ido said:
yes after constant searching , i also found those threads.
Yet I'm wondering, some connectors don't include all 22 pins, but only the ones actually used for charging (for example) - and then it'll be really hard to hack them.
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Yes, that's correct. If you get a charge & sync cable you'll have most. Might need to take audio from the 2.5mm jack in that case. That's probably the simplest solution if you cannot get a fully wired one. I'm interested in this sort of thing, so if you could post an update on what you go with I'd be grateful.
Since the unit will be permanently mounted, I won't be able to sync it (unless I bring a laptop to my car) - could I somehow get a two SD cards installed at once to the unit ?
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I doubt you could get two SD cards. What may be possible is some sort of SD card extension device. Never seen one (never looked), but if it existed you could have a dash-mounted SD card.
Bluetooth or WiFi might help you e.g. with WiFi you could browse a network share to copy music over from your house. Also, there is a tool for WM5 that turns the phone into a keydrive, i.e. a USB mass storage device. Unless you need contacts etc sync'ed, that might be a bit simpler & give you more options to what you can hook up for.
PS bluetooth on WM5 isn't all that great. There is a "fix" that wakes the device now and then. This would light up your car overnight and might possibly be a thief magnet. On the other hand, if the battery dies on WM2003, you lose the data on it.
- At first I thought of making the device extractable, so I thought it'll be better to use the connector on the bottom for audio, but I've decided not to go this route (more complications and harder to make - also makes it easier for thieves.
So I'm probably going to go for the 2.5mm jack for audio.
- as for SD, since the SD slot won't be accessible, I thought of making an SD slot on the dashboard - and I'd like to switch between both.
an SD is connected via 9 pins, meaning making an SD switch is possible, but you wouldn't be able to use both.. thus I was wondering if software/hardware wise there is a builtin capabilty of such a thing as using two SD's at once. that'll be really cool.
- unfortunatly my XV6600 does not have WIFI, and BT is NOT an option for syncing (too slow !! - just imagine syncing 2gb of audio/vid via bluetooth..)
the two idea's I've had is making a USB connector on the dash (just incase I can get a laptop in the car..)
and the other, was the dash SD slot..
- for bluetooth, can't I just disable auto wakeup ?
- how will upgrading to WM5 save my data even if the battery drains ? its the same RAM chip's, not flash ROM, isn't that right ?
- as for HR's, the question is if I can somehow get the unit to 'working order' by installing software from the SD card, without actually syncing it to a computer..
fraser: Since I'm going to be connecting the ppc to the ignition circuit, and I'd also like to have a USB connector on the dashboard, I'd need to switch between the two.
i already have a car 12v connector -> usb charger device.
Should I buy a SYNC cable and convert it to charger, or car charger and convert it to USB cable ?
(although car charger might not have all the right pins..)
ido said:
thus I was wondering if software/hardware wise there is a builtin capabilty of such a thing as using two SD's at once. that'll be really cool.
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Never heard of that I'm afraid. A switcher may work, but make sure there aren't any other physical switches that get tripped when you put a card in.
- for bluetooth, can't I just disable auto wakeup ?
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No, this BT issue is the biggest one on WM5
- how will upgrading to WM5 save my data even if the battery drains ? its the same RAM chip's, not flash ROM, isn't that right ?
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No, it's different ones. WM5 uses the "storage" area for your personal data; you now no longer have /storage as it's all in there. The RAM becomes proper RAM, although you can use some of it as a ramdisk with the same loss-of-power issues as WM2003.
- as for HR's, the question is if I can somehow get the unit to 'working order' by installing software from the SD card, without actually syncing it to a computer..
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That's exactly what I do. I've stopped using the PC installers, there is enough junk on my PC. Just find the cabs for the apps and keep a copy on the SD card.
Not all apps have cabs.. so that might be a problem.
as well as I'll have to make pre-made .reg fixes just incase I'll have to HR.
as for WM5, if I install it, won't I have less free space then ?
ido said:
Not all apps have cabs.. so that might be a problem.
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You can extract the cabs in various ways. Some exe's can even be opened in winrar.
as for WM5, if I install it, won't I have less free space then ?
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You can reformat the storage area to 60 meg before the upgrade. Only before though. You don't get a memory slider like in WM2003.
Still, I'm not so sure on WM5 being the best for you. You'd want to have reliable BT and I'm not sure it is on WM5.
So I guess I'll stick with WM2003 for the time being.
I'm ordering an SD slot for the dashboard, as well as a USB connector.
Another Idea I've had is the need for the hardreset as well as reset button.
to which version should I upgrade my rom then ?
ido said:
- an SD is connected via 9 pins, meaning making an SD switch is possible, but you wouldn't be able to use both.. thus I was wondering if software/hardware wise there is a builtin capabilty of such a thing as using two SD's at once. that'll be really cool. ..
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sorry to butt-in but, someone had done that before: SD-WiFi & SD Mem Card in parallel on the same 9 pin source: pda sd expansion.
a switch might be of help if you don't want to use the two slots simultaneously.
Yes I've seen that. Its a pretty lame hack if you read it to the end.
there's a better link with larger photo's for anyone interested:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.hutchinson27/pockpc/
also, his project doesnt seem to work at the same time, and I've decided not to go with the switch route.
I'm reading a lot of the SD specs, So there is a very slim possibility I'll be able to get two cards to co-exist (and I would love some proffesional help if any of you guys know more about SD's then I do).
if not, then I'll just make an SD slot on the dashboard..
According to HTC service manual http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410653 (picture attached) there are somewere an Y cable and SD card reader !!!!
Topic exists, fella.
So the Diamond has USB Host?
Surur
Riel said:
Topic exists, fella.
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If you mean THIS http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2311863 topic doesn't look the same to me, if I missed some other topic... please point out and I will join
surur said:
So the Diamond has USB Host?
Surur
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Till now we just proved the existence of a working SD card reader-cable connected.
Special reader? Special Cable? According with HTC service manual no special software is needed, so the solution is in the HW
MAKE A SMALL Diamond like microsd card reader?
people get some entrepreneurial spirit 3 million diamonds are going to be sold
know some manufacturer which can make it for $10 a piece and you sell it for $49, YOU SELL 250K, YOU MADE over $10 MILLION, theres a life.
or VIEW THIS! http://www.tca-inc.net/usbmatousbbf.html and http://www.bizrate.com/memorycards/oid796436093.html
will that work?
Another USB reader
Check this out.
http://www.netimes.com/shop/miniusb-smart-cable-charger-microsd-card-reader-gray-p-1097.html
Nice prices, altough shipping will be put on the price.
I almost hate to ask, but has anyone actually tried plugging in a card reader or USB drive?
If someone managed to cram the features of the smart cable into the space made by the extended battery back cover, we'll have a neat little extension to the phone
Bringing up an old topic.... But just for the info here it is:
I worked with it many times. It can read the SD card but only in special conditions. You cannot use it as a USB host and read-write files etc.
The cable is a special cable so don't bother look for a ready made one commercially.
Regards!
i think its purpose is for service only
CMIIW
i think its purpose is for service only
CMIIW
I think the SD Card reader in the picture is simply a USB OTG Bridge that can transfer data to USB client devices.
Here is a similar product:
http://www.everythingusb.com/sima_hitch_usb-101.html
Forget hitch, the reader is a plain card reader.
And yes it is used for servicing only.
I could go into further details later if you want or even show how to build one.
Is there something useful here?
http://forum.ppcwarez.org/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=58813
Hm... Have no idea, didn't tested it.
leosedf said:
Forget hitch, the reader is a plain card reader.
And yes it is used for servicing only.
I could go into further details later if you want or even show how to build one.
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if that's a plain card reader, it means the Diamond is an USB host or OTG device, right?
if that's true, we could provide an external 5v power to the card reader, and connect card reader's D+ and D- pins to Diamond to get it work, right? ... is it required to connect the both sides' Vcc and Gnd pins? Or, maybe the external power is not required?
thanks,
jeffrey
It will only work for servicing purposes. Nothing else. About the connections you are right.
I see. So it's useless for the rest of us.
Thanks,
Jeffrey
I have htc wings - he has SDIO?
Yes it does.
Please, Canyou show me on any photo HTC Wings, where is this slot?
SDIO is basically additional I/O capabilities through your regular SD slot, on the right side of the phone. I wonder, what do you need SDIO for btw? The phone has already built-in wlan, which seems to me to be the main reason for such a slot.
on the right side of the phone
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???on right side is microSD , no SD???
i need sdio, because built-on wifi is very small range (200-400 m) . I think that external wifi has more range
SDIO is the name of a technique, not a size. But no, the phone has no regular SD-sized SDIO slots, only a microSDIO slot. I don't know if any microSDIO cards exist though.
You might want to set your wifi transmit power higher for better range, if you haven't done so already. I doubt that an external wifi card will get you a better range, since the size of the antenna in such a card won't be bigger than what is already built into the phone.
This adapter can be used as an alternative for the USB-Host functionality but I was afraid the microSD part wouldn't be long enough to fit the HD2 MicroSD slot.
So I managed to get its microSD part length according to expansys' product image:
The length is only 17mm but the minimum length to get it work with HD2 must be 20.5mm. I used a calliper to measure that.
So, I was hopping anyone would come up with an idea to use this adapter with HTC HD2.
Please notice that the adapter price is £29 excluding the shipping cost so I prefer not take the risk to disassemble it for extending the microSD length if it isn't possible.
Thanks in advance,
that's a very interesting product..
What is it for, are you trying to use a USB stick instead of your micro SD card?
If so, why?
a portable HDD caddy LOL
shame though, the MicroSD port wont put out 5v 500mah
although its probably enough to power a CF/MSproDUO/XD type of reader for example to clear some space on your digital camera card without deleting images (or simply to view them on a bigger screen )
grayme said:
What is it for, are you trying to use a USB stick instead of your micro SD card?
If so, why?
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Sometimes you really need work on a USB stick but you don't have access to PC.
Or as quasi_mojo said you can connect a card reader to your device...
Will I be able to play some mp3's directly from a pendrive with this device? Because I have about 25GB of music and I can't afford a 32GB microSD card.
i THINK (i could be wrong...) a pendrive would require more nearer 5volts to work...
opened up my SDcard reader a few days ago, plugged into usb with a 2gb sdcard...it was pulling 3.4-3.6volts while accessing the card, which is damn close to the MicroSD maximum voltage...
Anyone knows where to buy?
There is a shop in the USA, but who knows a shop in europe?
Greetings Ottschke from germany
PS Why not attache a harddrive to my Tab
Nook Color option
It would be cool if someone could make a Micro SD socket adaptor (with a usb converter cable) that would allow the ability to connect to and drive a scanner and a printer. One would need the appropriate app designed for it too. A nice option for the Nook Color.
Hi there,
I had the mobydapter here, but it didn't function with my galaxy 7 inch tab. Pity I had to send it back. No function beside beeing very unstable by nearly dropping out of my tab. Oh I forgot it was blinking. ;-)
***MOD EDIT*** shows a Mobiadapter attached to a Galaxt Tab 7 tablet.. Somebody said that this doesn´t work on that Tab... What kinda of marketing.. Argh!
The Mobiadapter no loger exist.
Someone know something like that?
Thanks for support
I need this product for a security research. If you happen to have one, even as used, please message me.
I bought that product last week and got it 3 days ago.
Well the Usb connector is cool if u want to use a regular keyboard or a memory stick
It does give power to my usb headset, but sound keep coming out from speakers
It doesnt give enought power to my usb Goflex Freeagent external Hard drive
As for the SD connector, well here come my questions since i didnt have any SD card nearby and i want to know before buying one.
Can I put my titanium backup/rom manager backups on an external SD card ?
Can i put Movies on the external SD cars and then watch them on my tab ?
I ask this last question because i got quite a few games that are taking lots of internal space and i only have the 16gb tab. I like 720p movies but they weight around 4gb and thats pretty much all the space i have left on the tab so i though i could put them on an external SD since my external HD cant be plug into the tab.
sorry for my poor writting skills, i hope u guys understand what i mean
please i need help on thoses two questions
I had similar questions, but apparently these aren't the forums to ask them.... sigh
Where did you purchase these gadgets at???
You should specify which tab you own.
Here is the 7" (1st gen./classic) tab forum and there is (sadly) no official Samsung "Usb and SD connection kit" for our tabs.
Hardware wise it should be possible to use kits made for the current 10.1" tabs, but there is no OTG (USB On The Go /host-mode) support in the ROM.
Regards, Juergen
..... this is the second subject i start in the wrong section
but since some of you read it here, i will anwser here and starting a new subject, so if we dont get any anwsers here check THERE!!!!
Yes i got the galaxy tab 10.1
yes i got the official samsung usb/SD card connector kit
I tried to read a movie from a memory stick plugged into the usb connector that was plugged into the tab and it did work but, video player like moboplayer arent flipping the screen, this mean that the stick and connector are in the 30pin connector wich is at the bottom of the tab so u cant watch a movie with the tab standing in the portrait position (see picture)
Do you guys know a videoplayer that will rotate the screen so my sd card or memory stick would at the top ?