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Hey,
I recently moved from a HTC android phone to the Galaxy S.
I've been digging through all the custom ROMs and I have found Juwe's and GingerReal but I'm having a hard time deciding what one to pick.
Battery Life is important to me.
Speed is important to me.
Music is important to me. (although everything has Voodoo fix it seems)
I also would love BLN to be supported (I think both do that). Drives me mad not having a notification light.
They both seem to work really well and I just sort of wanted some imput on what one to pick from someone who has used both.
What one, in your opinion, is the "better" ROM for me, based on speed and battery life? (and maybe other things I am overlooking that you think are important)
Thanks,
Chuck
Why not go with Darkys? He's got one of the best roms out there with everything you've mentioned as a requirement.
While normally I would recommend cyanogen, they haven't fixed a lot of the battery drain issues that the other roms like Darky's has already.
Oh maybe Ill look at Darkys too. When I was looking at it I didn't know if it had better battery life too.
What advantages does Darkys have over these ROMS?
One of the biggest things is it has a large user and developer base than the other GB roms... quicker support and fixes that way.
It has most of the features of the other two and it has it's own kernel. This allows for more control for speed, battery and feature optimizations.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814091
Thanks dude! Ill be loading that one.
Definetly Juwe.One of the best!
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Definetly Juwe.One of the best!
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++1 tried them all, no better than juwe. but if you are looking for large community - doc's romkitchen is the way, of course but those "large" communities are not that supportive, you need to look for answer on your questions in thousands of posts. However romkitchen is the best for novice - you will be able to see what files you can keep what files are save to delete, insanity is also good in that, very tiny rom with a good speed and supportive forum. well, try them all and see what you like. I heard that darky is good and i had it for a while but the dev himself is using different phone, so, think further.
Just moved from Ultibread to GingerReal myself last night. Piling on all my old Apps is a pretty good stress test and it held up well. Still flying this afternoon. Battery life seems improved too given I have been proding it all day and its still going. Took the punt over Juwe and not disappointed thus far
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Rykoro said:
Hey,
I recently moved from a HTC android phone to the Galaxy S.
I've been digging through all the custom ROMs and I have found Juwe's and GingerReal but I'm having a hard time deciding what one to pick.
Battery Life is important to me.
Speed is important to me.
Music is important to me. (although everything has Voodoo fix it seems)
I also would love BLN to be supported (I think both do that). Drives me mad not having a notification light.
They both seem to work really well and I just sort of wanted some imput on what one to pick from someone who has used both.
What one, in your opinion, is the "better" ROM for me, based on speed and battery life? (and maybe other things I am overlooking that you think are important)
Thanks,
Chuck
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I have been using juwe's 4.3.1 and darky's 10.1 both on JVH. I personally thinks that in-terms of speed (no lags) juwe's doing great, much better than darky's. you can feel the smoothness in juwe's rom but with darky's rom, sometimes you will get slight lagging especially media scanning + background sync running at the same time.
Well, I am running darky's rom anyway.. hehe.. coz darky's 10.1 has nice icons, but bit disapointed compared to darky's 10 final (no gtalk 1.3).
I m making this post because I am curious as to what everyone thinks in here .
so what is your opinion witch one runs smooter on your phone and what advantages you see in abuild vs the other .
P.S. I will state my opinion once a few have answered so that my opinion doesnt give a direction to the thread /
Matter of opinion but generally speaking i9000's roms tend to be have more features since source and leaks come out first. I personally prefer native i897 roms because of audience chip support and they just run better imo.
^ what he said.
Bln, customized kernel splashes, working nandroid, hsupa, and ext4 (which is not even needed just thought I'd mention it) for I9000. But they all run with their little quirks ;/
I897 has much better battery life for me and runs smoother IMO, don't really give a crap about the audience chip, never talk on the phone.
Also another trade off is upload speeds.
well here is my take on this .
i897 pros :
Native f/w : i897 users can benefit of there provider's feature (mainly referred to as bloatware)
Audience chip support
Placebo effect : ?the illusion that running a native rom for our phone changes something?
i897 cons :
obsolete updates (note that lately Samsung has leaked many f/w and seems the Captivate is catching up to the i9000 ) but if you are running a native i897/i896 based rom chances are your a few month back in development
3G vs H no brainer here . I dotn use data myslef but its a Deal breaker for many .
Sources for Gingerbread still not released for our device , there is only few that can be done on the kernel side witch is one of the most if not THE most important thing on our phone .
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i9000 pros
H vs 3G . I dotn use data myslef but its a Deal breaker for many .
Kernel Source
f/w updates are more often and more recent in other words :
more support from samsung
more language / csc choices
more developers = more development
i9000 cons
they use to be many .. but truth is there is only one reason and that is the audience chip support ...
IT all comes down to this : Audience chip support with either obsolete f/w or basically stock kernel vs Data speed latest f/w more support from devs and Samsung .
these device are the same minus front facing video camera , FM antenna and h/w buttons
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Since I owned my i896 I have run all the stock f/w possible on my phone :
i896 i897 i9088 Vibrant based rom ( Axura ) and i9000
About Battery Drain :
the most performance I have ever run on my phone was the set up that drained my battery the most .. makes sense right ? tweaking your phone for smoothness at a level where it doesnt eat your battery can be tricky some apps may drain your battery one day and not the other day (example apps didnt close and kept draining silently) .
Ill tell you all a secret about cooking a rom , other then the kernel theres nothing that can be done to make battery life better , a rom chef can do things that will make battery drain worst (for example installing unstable apps or doing other stuff wrong ). but in the end the choice of kernel / modem combo, your display settings (#1 battery drain on ALL of our Samoled phone) and of course OC/UV settings, these are the only things that impact your phone 's battery life , for the rest , everytime you flash a new rom if somethign is wrong , reflash wipe your battery stats and let your phoen settle ( few charges and discharges ) .
Please dotn take my point of view personal about battery drain , everyone is entitled to there opinion on the matter , some ppl prefer stock odex roms with rooted stock kernel , I prefer to have my phone tweaked / themed customized Overclock and drain the battery like mad on it some ppl dont , these ppl should stay away form custom rom ESPECIALLY those developped on CLOSED SOURCE KERNEL as 99% of there battery tweaks are placebo .
hereI said it
I9000 is what I prefer, runs faster and has more features but uses more battery. As far as audience chip I only notice a difference if there is alot of background notice, like my window being down in the car. I897 roms are sluggish for me.
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I can say that Native I897 GB rom (2.3.3,2.3.4,2.35) have an incredible battery life. I have gotten up to 48 hours with any recharge. If you look at Fasty III, it now has added Ext 4 and Voodoo video to it along with init.d, that allows for major tweaks.
PS I have gotten up to 2526 quadrant score with Tegrak on Fasty III KI2
Hear hear!
I agree completely. As one who flashes a different ROM every other day, I can tell that most of them are just skinned and themed versions of the same thing. Some devs have better skills and can tweak configs to make android run better for some, but there are so many users with differing essential necessities that it is hard to optimize the system for all users. For me personally, I use the actual phone app maybe an hour a week, so the lack of the audience chip support isn't a dealbreaker for me, but for some it is essential. And I have tried every GPS tweak and hack and config with no success, but I don't rely on my GPS on my phone (not since that trip to NYC... *shudder*). OF course if that function is essential for you, you have the wrong phone.
I was just thinking that it would be great if someone created a ROM that featured system and apps optimized for a density of 200, but it would essentially be running the same base as all the other ROMs.
The best ROM I have used battery-wise is Andromeda 2.2. Great battery life and stability, but unfortunately is several revisions out of date. The smoothest performance I have had is also the one that murdered my battery, CM7.
I would rather see a couple base ROMs that devs would then offer themes, tweaks, and patches for so that we could pick and choose what is needed for them. My 2 cents
Great idea opening this thread DAGr8 !! Lots of newbies will have a general idea on how things are in the cappy land ,on that note this should be stickied.
As for me I'm more a i9k guy, mainly due to the better kernel support. Like to tweek myself so battery is secondary as I took for granted charging to phone daily ever since the smart phone era impacted my life.
The only reason for me to switch is the audience chip. Unfortunately I had cpl of, well not so happy responses from the other end of the line regarding call quality, but when in a peaceful nature the quality is good.
Like the way how the cappys kernel support is shaping up, but still there's allways that lack of source that holds the guys back. Would like to thank all you devs for making our cappys be what it is today, imo a captivated sensation
You left out an option Dag, what about AOSP? I would have never tried to flash MIUI/CM7 before it became a simple flash with CWM, but since it is that easy now I have flashed MIUI and I love it. I've tried going back to Samsung roms, but end up back here after a few days.
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You left out an option Dag, what about AOSP? I would have never tried to flash MIUI/CM7 before it became a simple flash with CWM, but since it is that easy now I have flashed MIUI and I love it. I've tried going back to Samsung roms, but end up back here after a few days.
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Great point CM is not true aosp but close enough at least , reason why they are not added in this thread is because I am not a fan , of the way it runs on our device (great job by the devs) but seem like the i9000 family were never made to run true AOSP , CM built on true aosp phone like nexus tho thats somethign else I am definitely an admirer . if ppl are willing to share there experience with CM I will add 'the option' in the op 's title eventho im afraid this coudl become a war between TW fanboys (ilke myself ) and CM fanboy ..
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Great point CM is not true aosp but close enough at least , reason why they are not added in this thread is because I am not a fan , of the way it runs on our device (great job by the devs) but seem like the i9000 family were never made to run true AOSP , CM built on true aosp phone like nexus tho thats somethign else I am definitely an admirer . if ppl are willing to share there experience with CM I will add 'the option' in the op 's title eventho im afraid this coudl become a war between TW fanboys (ilke myself ) and CM fanboy ..
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Understandable. Just didn't want the aosp'ish followers without even a nod.
By now everyone should know my alliance is with the I9000 stock ROM. At&t meddled with the I897 too much.
At times I am torn betwixt the two...but for now, with all the i897 leaked firmware that has been of late, and that along with all the great Dev work on this side of the house, I choose the i897.
For me, it just works. The leaks, since KF1, have had excellent battery life. The noise cancellation is a great plus. The capped upload speeds a minus I know, but worth the trade. The firmware bugs have been getting resolved. Themes, mods, extras, etc. are really good. And the phone running on the i897 gingerbread firmware is fast, responsive, and a pleasure to use.
Anywho...my 2 cents. Thanks again to all devs.
I ultimately had to ditch my i9000 rom for two reasons. First, I just couldn't find a modem that was good for both voice and data. It was either-or. Second, bluetooth is unusable with i9000. I have a car with bluetooth connectivity for calling and I like to use it, so that was a deal breaker for me.
I will stay on i9000 rom for now.
But i897 rom/kernel can provide sharpness fix, voodoo sound, lagfix, I will turn to i897 rom.
I have try i897 GB rom before, i897 GB rom have excellent battery life and noise cancellation. But I can't accept samsung stock rom horrible sharpness quality.......
DAGr8 said:
I m making this post because I am curious as to what everyone thinks in here .
so what is your opinion witch one runs smooter on your phone and what advantages you see in abuild vs the other .
P.S. I will state my opinion once a few have answered so that my opinion doesnt give a direction to the thread /
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i prefer to the I897 ROM ，when the GB source published，we will get more more developers and it will more eazy to mod our Rom
@DAGr8, can we flash any i9000 rom that hasn't been ported to the Captivate as long as we are using a reoriented i9000 kernel like Talon?
Or are there specific things done to Captivate ports that are essential for it to run correctly?
Elisha said:
@DAGr8, can we flash any i9000 rom that hasn't been ported to the Captivate as long as we are using a reoriented i9000 kernel like Talon?
Or are there specific things done to Captivate ports that are essential for it to run correctly?
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Not much needs to be done... I will make a script for you guys very soon that will allow you to do just that..
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DAGr8 said:
Not much needs to be done... I will make a script for you guys very soon that will allow you to do just that..
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thank you!
Hello everyone, my first thread for this phone, used to be a Galaxy Ace user, now I have this great phone. As of now, I'm stuck at a branded fw (JVG OMN) because I'm a little afraid of losing warranty. It's weird because I used to flash my Ace like hell. Now I can't even help rooting SGS.
Anyway, I'll eventually come around at flashing some rom, there are so many of them. Hence I'd like some suggestions. My main concerns are:
1. Battery durability @ 3G (browsing the net 5hr per day at most)
2. In-call quality (no random reboots plz)
3. GPS reliability (no battery hog, if possible)
4. ICS (is it too early?)
I know you've all been asked for this before, but I'm not asking for miracles, I can understand the limits of undergoing development. I would like a sincere suggestion.
Try GB ROMS for now
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Hello everyone, my first thread for this phone, used to be a Galaxy Ace user, now I have this great phone. As of now, I'm stuck at a branded fw (JVG OMN) because I'm a little afraid of losing warranty. It's weird because I used to flash my Ace like hell. Now I can't even help rooting SGS.
Anyway, I'll eventually come around at flashing some rom, there are so many of them. Hence I'd like some suggestions. My main concerns are:
1. Battery durability @ 3G (browsing the net 5hr per day at most)
2. In-call quality (no random reboots plz)
3. GPS reliability (no battery hog, if possible)
4. ICS (is it too early?)
I know you've all been asked for this before, but I'm not asking for miracles, I can understand the limits of undergoing development. I would like a sincere suggestion.
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With the conditions you have placed i dont think any ICS ROM can live up to that expectation GB ROMS.
Amestris ROM has the best battery life. I have never faced any issue with calls or GPS.
MIUI ROMS are superb option if u hate SAMSUNG touchwiz . They will give u iphone feel on android
If you too eager to test then try ICS ROMs. Battery life and performance wont be that good. But within months everything will fall in its place
ALL THE BEST ..
Thank you. I was expecting the fact that ICS still can't live up to my expectations, and I have no problem waiting for some perfect release. I was just wondering if that day will ever come, seen that many phones (some of which nowhere nearly as good as sgs) are getting smooth ics working. I put all my trust in our devs.
As for Amestris, I really do not dig themed interfaces. I prefer to get a rom as clean as possible and do my own theming when i feel ok about it. But probably it's just me.
I'm ok with touchwiz but I do like MIUI...I just can't understand whether it's been optimized for our device (i mean, everything works as good as in stock? or better?!).
I`ve been using the cm9 beta by pawitp(team hacksung cm9 beta) for months now and not had any of the issues that concern you and as of yesterday the i9000 is in the nightly builds of cyanogen mod 9 and this awsome ics rom will only get better....get rooting and flashing again , you know you want to!!!
I also place a lot of emphasis on stability, have been using the ICSSGS rom and haven't had any random reboots yet (2 weeks?)
I would like to know about latest CM9 nightly...is it worth it?
And also, some say that SlimICS is the best out here because "for the Galaxy S, the limiting factor in running ICS smoothly is none other than ram". Is this true?
I tried several custom ROM's amd at the moment I would say that the best, I mean the fastest and the most stable are ROM's made by BHuvan goyal. The latest INFINITUM with default kernel would be good for you. I've noticed that the battery life is not shorter than on gb so you would be really satisfied.
Hello all
i have just been given a samsung galaxy note and would like to know your opinions on the fastest custom ROMS/Kernals ideally i am interested
in speed and battery life. what experiences have you guys had with modding your galaxy notes ?
any feedback as to your opinions of different ROMS is appreciated
-Cheers lads
The predictable Cyanogen answer with all based on Cyanogen.
Easy to flash, stock, fast, light on the battery, has the cooler stock Android ICS look. CM10 coming 'round the corner with JellyBean.
Not recommended for those that love TouchWiz and things like S-Memo.
Well at first i was scared of flashing CM based roms cuz i thought i.d loose s.memo.....but then i took the plunge n believe me m really happy with it.....
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fistofthenorth said:
Hello all
i have just been given a samsung galaxy note and would like to know your opinions on the fastest custom ROMS/Kernals ideally i am interested
in speed and battery life. what experiences have you guys had with modding your galaxy notes ?
any feedback as to your opinions of different ROMS is appreciated
-Cheers lads
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You may please search the forum, as a ROM poll is going on.
This post does not belong in the development section. Mods may please shift it to General Section
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Well at first i was scared of flashing CM based roms cuz i thought i.d loose s.memo.....but then i took the plunge n believe me m really happy with it.....
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You've got a few S-Pen tuned alternatives, like Papyrus. But the gain in performance and battery is really good when you compare it to TouchWiz ROMs. Adding the fact that IT'S SAFE, meaning you can flash/wipe all you want (the CM team did a WAY better job than Samsung on that) and...the choice is pretty obvious for me, really...
If you're going to look into TouchWiz ROMs, make sure you either choose one with a safe kernel included or flash a safe kernel afterwards (I think speedmod...??? Not really sure though, you'll have to research that)
Im using Criskelo v9 rom with GL- Notecore v8.1 (OC) kernel,everything working as it should and the speed is awesome as far as battery goes ive only been running the kernel a few days and it seems ok. I charge my phone every night so battery life is no issue here.Everbody's usage differs tho, if your after longer battey life i wouldnt opt for an OC kernel.
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Definitely the wrong forum to post this but..
STAXX Paranoid Android -- Best ROM to date.
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You've got a few S-Pen tuned alternatives, like Papyrus. But the gain in performance and battery is really good when you compare it to TouchWiz ROMs. Adding the fact that IT'S SAFE, meaning you can flash/wipe all you want (the CM team did a WAY better job than Samsung on that) and...the choice is pretty obvious for me, really...
If you're going to look into TouchWiz ROMs, make sure you either choose one with a safe kernel included or flash a safe kernel afterwards (I think speedmod...??? Not really sure though, you'll have to research that)
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Actually S-memo and the other sammy apps for the s-pen are better than the likes of papyrus and other apps. So for those who want/need s-memo stick with touchwiz based roms.
you guys can get angry with me but im honest to my heart,...as of now there is no rom that is completely good..im going back to gb
all tw ics roms have one major problem: SCROLLING aint smooth enough( ive tried em all)..they stutter like hell!!
and cm9 roms arent that great for battery life...
cm 10 aint fully functional...
all in all i hate it that samsung has created a wonderful device with awesome specs but totally screwed the software releases throughout...to make it even worse is black clipping!!.. im just irritated with this device, dont feel like owning a premium device...im about to sell it hopefully note 2 is better coz the spen and screen size are unbeatable!!!
Stock ROM is the best.
Hi your best option is to go for a Touchwiz rom which you can highly customize during installation. Chrack's and Criskelo are very good fully customizable rooms. They come with Aroma installation to let you remove a lot of bloat ware before installation.
Touchwiz roms also have the best kernels around. Like Note core and Speed mod. These give a very significant improvement in speed n battery. Of course cyanogen based roms r good. But the prob is u will be lacking some native drivers Samsung has integrated into the roms for the best performance. For ex, divx support is there by default, NTFS file format for SD card can be achieved, better drivers for display n graphics etc.
Touchwiz roms can crush cyanogen roms in benchmarks as well. Cyanogen can seem very smooth and fluid. But with the right launcher (apex or nova) u can easily give the rom a stock ICS feel as well. Hope this helped. Cheers
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The best ROM is the one that works best for you on your phone. Try a few out and decide for yourself.
And posts like this never belong in Development.
Hi, I'm still on 2.3.6 and I'm looking for a newer ROM, either ICS or JB with good battery backup, stability and smoothness.
Actually if GB battery is better than JB and ICS I just might stick with that.
I'm looking around but I don't see any definite answer and no relevant threads in Q&A section.
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Hi, I'm still on 2.3.6 and I'm looking for a newer ROM, either ICS or JB with good battery backup, stability and smoothness.
Actually if GB battery is better than JB and ICS I just might stick with that.
I'm looking around but I don't see any definite answer and no relevant threads in Q&A section.
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I would recommend a Jelly Bean though because it is the latest. But I would highly recommend you to view this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612881
This is not my device, a friend bricked it trying to restore the factory settings and I fixed it with the stock jw9, he asked to update it if I can but he needs the battery to be either the same or better than what he had before, so my question is more of should I stick with GB or go for something newer, he doesn't care for constant updates so a stable rom with good battery is what I want to give him. Even if he did care for updates the i9000 is a tricky device, so far today I used odin half a dozen times just to get back to get to flash from recovery cause half the things I now from owning a HD2, Desire, Desire HD, GS2, One X, Optimus 2x, tf300tg and so on don't work here. And I can't constantly ask him to test it a few days and give it back to me to flash a new rom if the battery is not good enough, or teach him how to do it then spend most of days trying to explain or fix what he did wrong, For example I just flashed C-RoM Mix 4.2.2 and it hang on the Semaphore logo, will use Odin right now to get back to gb, and again odin to flash the recovery kernel and then either flash c-rom again or blackbean or just leave at that as I have to wake up in 5 hours to go to work and explain I couldn't be bothered or the people that actually have the answer point me to the "don't ask questions" thread, I've been around xda for a long time, and for some reason the samsung part of the forum is the one I dislike the most as I find people a little obnoxious, every other forum I've been people are actually helpful and eager to answer in a little more detail like: jb battery life good but not stable, ics battery sucks but never hangs" "try gamerzrom ninja cause it has crazy battery life and awesome ui" or something like that.
Anyway, thanks for the help. Will not ask for help here again.
Can a mod please close this or do I have to pm someone?
(excuse any typos I did, it's getting late here and I'm kinda tired)
Your critisism is rather harsh and rude even considering your situation.
I'd sugggest a GB Rom: moderate battery drain because of fewer tuning options/performance. (My opinion.)
You could try CM 7.2: near stock, stable, GB 2.3.7? at cyanogenmod.org.
AW: [Q] ROM for good battery backup and stability
I would recommend you remics JB. It has touchwiz and 4.2.2. Very smooth for me
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I had a long response written but I deleted it cause figured it's not worth it, I guess I am still naive to believe that the courtesy I extend to others when they need something and the courtesy I have been extended to every time I am in need in the past around here is a given, apparently that is not the case every time, I want to, and I will honestly, thank you for your answers, as I have the first user that responded to my question, even with the "don't ask" response.
So have a nice day (it's morning here) and thank you again.
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GB Rom Saurom JW9 or Mesorom as I feel people have a lot of issues with ICS or JB as they dont follow instructions too good :highfive:
Currently on Saurom and 3 days battery life..its all good!
Please not modem and Kernel can help on Roms too :good: