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Sgs and iphone 4

I wonder why my sgs ui can never be smoother than my iphone 4 ui? A any one know how to make it faster
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japonesque said:
I wonder why my sgs ui can never be smoother than my iphone 4 ui? A any one know how to make it faster
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Zeam launcher + Universal Lagfix + tweaks + disable all animations = smooth as buttah

I own both as well. You can flash a custom ROM to the device with lots of the useless junk removed, and install a lag fix. Start with the FAQs on this site if you haven't already.
I must say though, I have never been so torn between two devices. I love the iPhone 4s stability and application quality. On the other hand, the SGS satisfies my primal need to mod and hack things. I also prefer the weight of the sgs. iPhone is a bit too heavy and fragile for my liking.

just install a custom ROM for your corresponding firmware and voodoo lagfix. done.
smooth and fast.
no need for taskkillers either.

The only thing that is (still) better on the iThing is the browser.
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It its smooth because iOS implements hardware acceleration. It uses the graphics chip to render the animations, which makes everything seamless and smooth. This is easy because iOS is designed completely around around the iPhone. Android was designed for use in hundreds of devices with different hardware, so it does not use hardware acceleration (yet).
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richan90 said:
It its smooth because iOS implements hardware acceleration. It uses the graphics chip to render the animations, which makes everything seamless and smooth. This is easy because iOS is designed completely around around the iPhone. Android was designed for use in hundreds of devices with different hardware, so it does not use hardware acceleration (yet).
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Well that is not the case completely. TouchWiz was indeed optimized for our graphics chip, however, without a lagfix, the access to the data is too slow and in froyo, the touchwiz launcher is too directly ported from the galaxy tab which causes our device to first render everything in 1024x600 and then scale down to 800x480 which costs a lot more resources than just rendering 800x480 or 960x640 (as on the iPhone). With the right mods, all this is corrected and you will find your SGS just as smooth as an iPhone 4. However all this requires a lot of reading and a significant amount of patience...
But It's definitely worth the reward.

Or we could wait for a:
-stable
-responsive-
-good battery life
-high performance (in addition to responsive)
-with all functions working
-with the original applications (Google and Samsung Apps)
-with the haptics
-long key press actions (menu/search, home/running apps, back/forceclose)
-sudo/root available
-apps2sd
-fully consistent user interface (with landscape mode)
build of the MIUI ROM
*drools...

ekin said:
Or we could wait for a:
-stable
-responsive-
-good battery life
-high performance (in addition to responsive)
-with all functions working
-with the original applications (Google and Samsung Apps)
-with the haptics
-long key press actions (menu/search, home/running apps, back/forceclose)
-sudo/root available
-apps2sd
-fully consistent user interface (with landscape mode)
build of the MIUI ROM
*drools...
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Or we all could start mass complaint/class action against Samsung
This phone has been heavily advitised but does not work out of the box.
I received 1 offical update via Kies just after launch, phone went from totaly useless to usable to a degree. I updated to Froyo via reg hack and phone is better but still lags. GPS is still out. Battery life is still crap. Browsing crap, WiFi crap. Both were good on Eclair

Thats funny. Is there any device where someone hasnt brought up class action? Its like suing dodge cause they advertsed the 69 charger had big engine..but suspension and drag stunk... You could wait for the test drive results and dont buy one...unless you just think you have a right to have samsung make something better. i like mine. I also like finding improvements..sure.
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Darkstriker said:
Well that is not the case completely. TouchWiz was indeed optimized for our graphics chip, however, without a lagfix, the access to the data is too slow and in froyo, the touchwiz launcher is too directly ported from the galaxy tab which causes our device to first render everything in 1024x600 and then scale down to 800x480 which costs a lot more resources than just rendering 800x480 or 960x640 (as on the iPhone). With the right mods, all this is corrected and you will find your SGS just as smooth as an iPhone 4. However all this requires a lot of reading and a significant amount of patience...
But It's definitely worth the reward.
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I was going to question this and ask whether you were joking, but then I remembered this is Samsung, so it's probably true...
It's pretty tragic if that is what they're doing.

I think this is the same rant I see in all the posts about sgs, no point repeating in all the posts.
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I am using launcher pro and so far, super satisfied with it. I am on stock JP6 Froyo and no Voodoo but still smooth as butter. I am amazed, I didn't turn off any effects.
Side by side to an iPhone 4, no problem beating the smooth game although iPhone seems more consistent. At some point though, launching apps or swiping from left to right seems faster on the SGS. No kidding.

Valeo said:
I was going to question this and ask whether you were joking, but then I remembered this is Samsung, so it's probably true...
It's pretty tragic if that is what they're doing.
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Check this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817466

oohh... I see... so which custom firmware with froyo do you guys recommend for me as Im using a singapore singtel handset... Thank you

oh btw will I be able to do the flashing using linux? or it had to be windows? thanks

Is the lag really that bad?

I have a tab and a xoom on route and i have until tomorrow to decide which i will keep.
The Xoom has good ICS ROMs and is smooth to use, no lag, no jitter, but is rather heavy.
The Tabs ive used in stores are laggy, and it seems to be the way the are, but is it really that bad? I cant live with it if it is.

Its bad with stock firmware. With ICS rom its a lot better.

Personally I don't think it's that bad and it can easily be sorted by changing away from the Samsung TouchWiz launcher to another like ADW Launcher Ex or GO Launcher HD for Pad from Play Google; remember also that the number of active widgets and live wallpaper affects the lag. Samsung are also going to release ICS soon and I'd expect the lag issue to be mostly eliminated.

That fixes the launcher lag, but not the browser lag or lag in games and maps (which is SLOW compared to my Galaxy S2 or the Xoom). Even the ICS ROMs still seem to be slow from videos ive seen.

rovex said:
That fixes the launcher lag, but not the browser lag or lag in games and maps (which is SLOW compared to my Galaxy S2 or the Xoom). Even the ICS ROMs still seem to be slow from videos ive seen.
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I've not had any issues with the browser or maps. Are you referring to loading or swiping? In both cases they are both quick and smooth. Are you comparing full desktop web browsing on the S2 and the GT? There's clearly a difference in the amount of content affecting loading and swiping; that also applies to maps. Additionally the store models are probably running HoneyComb 3.1.
The Xoom is officially at ICS now whereas the 8.9 is not, this is why the custom ROMs still need work, so it's difficult to judge the 2 devices fairly aside from the fact the the Xoom does not have bloatware.

Swiping.
Once on ICS i want to use Apex launcher as i do with my SGS2 and for now ill be happy with ADW EX on Honeycomb. Rooting and ROMing is no problem for me i must have flashed my S2 100 times! Of course the S2 is much much more powerful than the tab, but even with full desktop browsing its like butter, so is the Xoom (even on 3.1), the 8.9 is like gravel.

That's interesting because I've never had a problem swiping in the stock or Dolphin browsers; they've been smooth for me; did you visit sites using flash and was the flash plug-in up to date? If you get the chance to play with them both first then I'd do that to decide but the main reason I bought the 8.9 was the form factor with any lag not bothering me at all for the main functions of surfing and reading books/magazines; video playback is also excellent but I don't watch 720p video files on it, only 480p; the highest quality video I've watched is probably via Netflix.

Stock browser on HC is crap, scrolling up and down is a pain. It is crap on gt8.9 and its even worse on gt7.7. Anyone saying it works and is good just haven't used anything else. Try the ICS rom and you will see how fast the stock browser is.
The lag you see in launcher is a known hardware problem with Tegra 2. Only difference in the case of gt8.9 is that the screen is rotated 90 degrees, so we have this problem in landscape where its more obvious, all other Tegra 2 tablets have the same problem in portrait.

I have spent about 2 hours in various stores playing with them. The Tab is much much nicer to hold and look at, but the Xoom was silky smooth.
I assume once ICS gets an official release TW will be stripped out in most ROMs. In the mean time which current ICS is better, the AOSP or the AOKP?

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Stock browser on HC is crap, scrolling up and down is a pain. It is crap on gt8.9 and its even worse on gt7.7. Anyone saying it works and is good just haven't used anything else. Try the ICS rom and you will see how usable a browser can be. ICS browser is a lot faster then the HC browser.
The lag you see in launcher is a known hardware problem with Tegra 2. Only difference in the case of gt8.9 is that the screen is rotated 90 degrees, so we have this problem in landscape where its more obvious, all other Tegra 2 tablets have the same problem in portrait.
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I have read that before and tried both in both orientations. The Xoom was still smoother even in portrait than the 8.9 was. Doesnt that mean the 8.9 is permanently doomed? I will be using it in Landscape all the time.

rovex said:
I have read that before and tried both in both orientations. The Xoom was still smoother even in portrait than the 8.9 was. Doesnt that mean the 8.9 is permanently doomed? I will be using it in Landscape all the time.
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Was the Xoom running ICS? I had a Xoom and it had the problem in portrait. Portrait was unusable with android 3.0, it got better with every next version, but the problem was still there with Android 3.2. Dont know about ICS, i sold my Xoom a long time ago.
I'm not sure if the gt8.9 is exactly doomed. I have seen a silky smooth stock ICS launcher on gt8.9, so it certainly is possible to get it to run smoothly and fast. This was on one of the alpha ICS builds we made, unfortunately we could not find out what caused the launcher to become so smooth and it was lost in later builds. Of cource the current ICS build is also a lot better then stock HC.

The xoom was also running 3.1, same as the tab, because they were store units.
Its a shame that the hardware puts me off the Xoom a little, but the Software puts me off the tab. Im not allowed to use whichever unit i choose to send back, so its going to come down to whether the Xoom appeals when in my hand tomorrow.

rovex said:
The xoom was also running 3.1, same as the tab, because they were store units.
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Xoom with HC certainly has this problem, try a google search if you don't believe me. Its not as bad as gt8.9, but its there.

Yeah it was certainly there, but much less obvious and i wont be using portrait much anyway. This is the tabs problem, it does it in landscape and its worse.

rovex said:
Yeah it was certainly there, but much less obvious and i wont be using portrait much anyway. This is the tabs problem, it does it in landscape and its worse.
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Yeah, i don't understand why samsung choose to rotate the screen, they must have known about the Tegra 2 limitation.
Its worse on gt8.9 with stock rom, thats probably because their own toutchwiz modifications. Its a lot better with vanilla ICS.

Is it a permanent hardware issue or is the rotation a software thing? Can we undo it?

rovex said:
Is it a permanent hardware issue or is the rotation a software thing? Can we undo it?
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Its a hardware issue, but like i said, it seems to be possible to overcome it in software. And like someone already said, other third party launchers seem to work just fine.

I came from the Asus Transformer 101. I thought all Android tablets were just by nature laggy. I was very surprised to get the 8.9 and find that it was quite smooth compared to the Transformer. After rooting and getting ICS I think that this is about all you can expect from a tablet. Very smooth and very snappy. Very few if any force closes. Needless to say, I am totally sold on the Galaxy Tabs.

I only really notice the lag on the homescreen... Once in apps and stuff it's fine, so it's never been a problem for me. Android users put too much emphasis on the home screens when all they're for is to get you between apps. It's also not that bad anyway, you get used to it. As long as you don't use a live wallpaper you stop noticing it unless you're comparing it to an iPad or a faster tab.
The Xoom is good for speed, yeah, it's one of the few Android tabs out there that runs the OS smoothly. Sad truth is, most Android tabs don't run that well, you rarely see ones which don't have at least a bit of lag on the homescreens. Xoom is one of the better ones for speed, but Galaxy Tabs are far thinner and lighter than anything else, so that's the compromise you've got to choose - lighter and laggier or heavier and faster? Swings and roundabouts.
But yeah, you can speed this tab up with different roms, and it will be updated to ICS soon. For me it's all about this tab's small size (without being as awkwardly small as a 7 inch tab), lightweight build and awesome screen. Xoom performs well but I never liked its form factor or its washed-out screen.

Well i think i will try the Tab and use Overcomes ROM and ADW EX while we wait for Samsung to get ICS out (and the better ROMs that will follow from devs.. ). ADW is familiar, i used it on my S2 until ICS arrived.
Now need to research the best Kernels, as i love overclocking and tweaking.

why is this thing so damn slow...

Just bought it yesterday, posting from it now in fact. Absolutely love the screen and form factor, its perfect in that sense...however with touchwiz 3.2 it was just unusable. Went to overcome, didn't help still too slow.
I'm now on cm9 and its still just so damn slow. The browser isn't smooth at all, playing games like anomaly hd and shadow gun just aren't smooth and seem like they're running at 15 fps, and trying to play HD content just depresses me because it doesn't work.
So I feel like I'm stuck with an amazing tablet which is just useless.
Is the situation ever going to get better? Am I doing something wrong? Should I just sell the thing even though I only got it yesterday? I watched a million videos before I bought it so I knew what to expect but using it constantly is just a different story...

Thats tegra2.
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I would indeed seem that Tegra 2 is a broken CPU. Never seen a fully smooth tegra device, even a WVGA phone running ICS, its not a lack of power, its just poorly designed and isn't able to deliver its power. I wonder if it's a memory controller issue. The PS3 also has a broken GPU (also nVidia!), but because its a single closed system its been worked around.
You CAN improve things somewhat though. Games arent slow for me, or the browser, but the homescreen is bad. Overclocking helps (running at 1.4ghz here with no issues), change the CPU scaling threshold to 65% increase the sampling rate.
Different launchers improve things to, but none are 100% perfect. ADW EX has a silky smooth homescreen and app draw, but scrolling widgets are slow. Go launcher HD is slightly slower in the homescreen, but widgets are much better.
Part of the problem is Honeycomb which is slow, the ICS builds we have now arent perfect, but they aren't built from Samsung sources. Once we have real Sammy ROMs and Sources to work from things should improve.

rovex said:
I would indeed seem that Tegra 2 is a broken CPU. Never seen a fully smooth tegra device, even a WVGA phone running ICS, its not a lack of power, its just poorly designed and isn't able to deliver its power. I wonder if it's a memory controller issue. The PS3 also has a broken GPU (also nVidia!), but because its a single closed system its been worked around.
You CAN improve things somewhat though. Games arent slow for me, or the browser, but the homescreen is bad. Overclocking helps (running at 1.4ghz here with no issues), change the CPU scaling threshold to 65% increase the sampling rate.
Different launchers improve things to, but none are 100% perfect. ADW EX has a silky smooth homescreen and app draw, but scrolling widgets are slow. Go launcher HD is slightly slower in the homescreen, but widgets are much better.
Part of the problem is Honeycomb which is slow, the ICS builds we have now arent perfect, but they aren't built from Samsung sources. Once we have real Sammy ROMs and Sources to work from things should improve.
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Not sure what you mean by the scaling thing but I am overclocked to 1.4 atm using NoFrills...as for browsing depends on the browser and the website, with the stock some websites are okay, I'm using chrome at the moment to post this and its just so sluggish...
As for games, they literally look like they're running at 15fps, its ridiculous.
Very disappointed, really don't want to have to buy an iPad but I just don't see the point of having a product like this that's so brilliant in theory but so poorly executed with absolutely no polish...how can they even sell a product that's this slow...

All hd games and content run fine for me. I'm on stock, not rooted. Using GO Launcher HD. Maybe I got lucky?

dairymasta said:
Not sure what you mean by the scaling thing but I am overclocked to 1.4 atm using NoFrills...as for browsing depends on the browser and the website, with the stock some websites are okay, I'm using chrome at the moment to post this and its just so sluggish...
As for games, they literally look like they're running at 15fps, its ridiculous.
Very disappointed, really don't want to have to buy an iPad but I just don't see the point of having a product like this that's so brilliant in theory but so poorly executed with absolutely no polish...how can they even sell a product that's this slow...
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You are judging Alpha software (CM9) as if it were final as in Stable status. Things will improve even more when Samsung releases source. In my experience, this tablet has been smooth with ADW EX. Perfectly usable, no stuttering, almost no lag, speedy and long lasting battery. Hey and this is with unfinished software (ICS) due to lack of source! I even had a good experience with firmware LA3. Just ditch the TouchWiz launcher. It helps a lot. If you still want to leave the tablet, be my guest, your choice.
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You can use SetCPU to adjust the CPU thresholds. It basically changes load at which the CPU scales up its clock rate, makes it more responsive, but wont make it faster at its peak.

Also, remember to make sure the CPU Governor is set to Interactive and not On Demand.
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nirogu325 said:
You are judging Alpha software (CM9) as if it were final as in Stable status. Things will improve even more when Samsung releases source. In my experience, this tablet has been smooth with ADW EX. Perfectly usable, no stuttering, almost no lag, speedy and long lasting battery. Hey and this is with unfinished software (ICS) due to lack of source! I even had a good experience with firmware LA3. Just ditch the TouchWiz launcher. It helps a lot. If you still want to leave the tablet, be my guest, your choice.
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Tbh I don't think this is a fair argument, the thing shipped with honeycomb finalized and even had an update, neither of which was alpha software and they both sucked and were completely unusable. The fact that I had to root and am currently using cm9 just so that I can use the thing reasonably is ridiculous...
I'm using cm9 and it is a lot better but I still find that games don't run smoothly, scrolling isn't smooth and there's a lot of lag
I do have it over locked to 1.4 and have governor set to interactive as well as I/O set to snoop. Its at least usable now but its so disappointing seeing such an amazing piece of hardware gone to waste. It kills the iPad on every level but the software just lets it down so badly....

We just need to wait, and hope for the best with ICS kernel. Tegra 2 ain't that bad, it's like every other Tegra 2 out there, it has its limitations, HD videos are one of them. Considering what my job is, i get a lot of Android tablets, but none of them were completely smooth, it's Android fault mostly.
The best i got so far was Transformer Prime, but that's Tegra 3, but the smoothest one of Tegra 2 ones was definitely Motorola Xoom. If Xoom can be that smooth with Honeycomb when i tested it, there is hope for this model yet. Software is the thing that needs fixing, so this model gets what it deserves. Even then, it won't be as smooth as iPad, and with every new Android version i am more and more sceptical that level of smoothness will ever be achieved.

Gizmo123 said:
We just need to wait, and hope for the best with ICS kernel. Tegra 2 ain't that bad, it's like every other Tegra 2 out there, it has its limitations, HD videos are one of them. Considering what my job is, i get a lot of Android tablets, but none of them were completely smooth, it's Android fault mostly.
The best i got so far was Transformer Prime, but that's Tegra 3, but the smoothest one of Tegra 2 ones was definitely Motorola Xoom. If Xoom can be that smooth with Honeycomb when i tested it, there is hope for this model yet. Software is the thing that needs fixing, so this model gets what it deserves. Even then, it won't be as smooth as iPad, and with every new Android version i am more and more sceptical that level of smoothness will ever be achieved.
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I don't think iOS smoothness will ever be achieved, its definitely an android limitation.
As for HD movies I've tried dice player, mobo player vplayer and mx video player...only dice seems to give a decent framerate but still has a lot of slowdown. Some of the other players don't even play audio which is a bit weird, but that's probably my fault not messing about with the settings.
Any tips for sorting out the video? Or will tegra2 never be able to handle it? Because if that's the case this is definitely a waste of a very good screen and while it'll break my heart, will have to sell it...
EDIT: also is there any fix to get 3d gaming to run a bit faster? Will doing a system wipe, dalvik cache and cache partition wipe and reflash help you reckon?

Tegra can play HD, but its limited in what encoding methods it likes. Its certainly no match for Exynos, which will play pretty much anything. Samsung really messed up by not using their own brilliant processor in the Tab. Frankly the Exynos is better than the Tegra 3!
iOS is smooth, but slightly slow. It doesnt react as fast as Android, its animations are just more 'sedate', but as a result, buttery smooth. The problem with android is that in the rush to animate it can microstutter unless it has the CPUs total attention. My SGS2 with a custom ICS ROM and a few further tweaks is like lightening, totally smooth and faster to animate than iOS. I doubt a Tegra device will ever be able to do that, but it should do a lot better than it is now.

dairymasta said:
Not sure what you mean by the scaling thing but I am overclocked to 1.4 atm using NoFrills...as for browsing depends on the browser and the website, with the stock some websites are okay, I'm using chrome at the moment to post this and its just so sluggish...
As for games, they literally look like they're running at 15fps, its ridiculous.
Very disappointed, really don't want to have to buy an iPad but I just don't see the point of having a product like this that's so brilliant in theory but so poorly executed with absolutely no polish...how can they even sell a product that's this slow...
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Don't use chrome it's slow.
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I don't think iOS smoothness will ever be achieved, its definitely an android limitation.
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You mean iOS is limited, that's why is smooth.

rovex said:
Tegra can play HD, but its limited in what encoding methods it likes. Its certainly no match for Exynos, which will play pretty much anything. Samsung really messed up by not using their own brilliant processor in the Tab. Frankly the Exynos is better than the Tegra 3!
iOS is smooth, but slightly slow. It doesnt react as fast as Android, its animations are just more 'sedate', but as a result, buttery smooth. The problem with android is that in the rush to animate it can microstutter unless it has the CPUs total attention. My SGS2 with a custom ICS ROM and a few further tweaks is like lightening, totally smooth and faster to animate than iOS. I doubt a Tegra device will ever be able to do that, but it should do a lot better than it is now.
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Yeah I'm running westcrips resurrection ICS on my sgs2 and its incredible. Might have to hold out for a 7.7 instead, watching videos of it playing 1080p perfectly and its just upsetting me lol
If I can somehow tweak things so I can at least was 720p videos and play games smoothly I'll be happy. Its just that games aren't running smoothly at all, tried blood and glory, anomaly HD, shadow gun, fruit ninja thd, all very laggy as if they're running between 10-15fps, especially blood and glory.
Considering a wipe and reflash but doubt it will make a difference and really can't be bothered if it won't make a difference....

I guess I'm luck. I can play samurai vengeance no problem
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Doesn't seem particularly slow to me... I mean it's no iPad but it isn't as slow as most of the HTC devices I've used.

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I guess I'm luck. I can play samurai vengeance no problem
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Yeah that runs okay, but then go try something like shadowgun or anomaly HD, its rubbish.

Once I cleared all Samsung's live widgets from the home screens, I found the home screen transitions to be generally pretty smooth on mine.
Most HD video chugs in SloMo though. Its depressing and sad. Not sure if ICS will do much, if anything to improve that.
Hopefully, Samsung will refresh the ~9in form factor in the summer with some version of Exynos.

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Yeah that runs okay, but then go try something like shadowgun or anomaly HD, its rubbish.
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Shadowgun runs perfectly smooth for me... Better than on my iPhone even...

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Shadowgun runs perfectly smooth for me... Better than on my iPhone even...
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Yeah and my movies play well too. Idk I guess I got a super tab...
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[Q] Exchanging SII with NOTE __ Worth it?

Hi there!
Have been using SII for about a year and a half now.
I don't know how but recently i have got tired of this 4 inchy and
really want a bigger screen.
And I'm getting an offer to exchange it with galaxy note. On paper galaxy note seems
ted powerful and with a better display as well.
But what I'm really concerned about is the real life difference in performance. I have heard from some
friends that NOTE is actually on a bit slower side than SII.
Would love to hear from guys who have used both the phones and please suggest should I go for the exchange.
Thanks.

walkermoon said:
Hi there!
Have been using SII for about a year and a half now.
I don't know how but recently i have got tired of this 4 inchy and
really want a bigger screen.
And I'm getting an offer to exchange it with galaxy note. On paper galaxy note seems
ted powerful and with a better display as well.
But what I'm really concerned about is the real life difference in performance. I have heard from some
friends that NOTE is actually on a bit slower side than SII.
Would love to hear from guys who have used both the phones and please suggest should I go for the exchange.
Thanks.
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It's barely noticeable slower. Specially in screens transitions and scrolling through lists that have images.
Maybe because of the higher resolution of the screen.
But in my opinion totally worth the upgrade
The bigger screen makes watching videos and playing games an amazing experience

Total worth the upgrade mate.
Go ahead and do it. Good luck :thumbup:
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Thats what I'm really concerned about. The reslotion of the galaxy note is almost 70 to 80 percent more than galaxy SII.
Theoretically that should mean galaxy note require around 1.8 to 2 Ghz dual core processor if I'm right to perform as snappier as galaxy SII.
And that's why there's a lag in UI and general use I guess.
I really like the s pen and the screen size.
But I do feel HD resolution is too much of an asking for a dual core.
Please correct and guide me if I'm wrong.
Waiting for your comments eagerly.

As far as I know, the pixels are "moved around" by the GPU , not the CPU.
So the processor has nothing to do with the lag.

walkermoon said:
Thats what I'm really concerned about. The reslotion of the galaxy note is almost 70 to 80 percent more than galaxy SII.
Theoretically that should mean galaxy note require around 1.8 to 2 Ghz dual core processor if I'm right to perform as snappier as galaxy SII.
And that's why there's a lag in UI and general use I guess.
I really like the s pen and the screen size.
But I do feel HD resolution is too much of an asking for a dual core.
Please correct and guide me if I'm wrong.
Waiting for your comments eagerly.
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The pixels are rendered by the GPU, not the CPU, but yes, they are also the same, and it's the reason for the difference.
It can get pretty smooth tough. Don't worry about performance. You won't have any trouble

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sherbibv said:
As far as I know, the pixels are "moved around" by the GPU , not the CPU.
So the processor has nothing to do with the lag.
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Thanks guys
Getting it tommorow
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Thanks to all.
Got Note finally. And after a month of use I don't think I would look back. Cheers.

Yes, the note is slower than s2. I also can't use android 4.1.2 as it's extremely laggy (this may happen only with my note).
The phones screen size makes it impossible to comfortably use this phone with one hand, so You mostly have to use both of Your hands.
If You're aiming for a bigger screen or for the spen's precision I would definitely recommend You this phone.
I must say I wouldn't go back to s2,as the spen is very important for me.
What do You want from this phone?
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jakuburban said:
Yes, the note is slower than s2. I also can't use android 4.1.2 as it's extremely laggy (this may happen only with my note).
The phones screen size makes it impossible to comfortably use this phone with one hand, so You mostly have to use both of Your hands.
If You're aiming for a bigger screen or for the spen's precision I would definitely recommend You this phone.
I must say I wouldn't go back to s2,as the spen is very important for me.
What do You want from this phone?
Nvm. Haven't seen the last post
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I really like the spen. But the lag problem is an issue with me too. I flashed indian version first and a few days back
I flashed the Uk xxlt9 firmware(obviously aftera full wipe). But I dont see much difference in those 2 versions. I guess jelly bean
is really too much for this phone(atleast stock one). I tried cyanogenmod too but I really missed the neat built in features of the spen so I
moved back to stock jelly bean. But its really annoying when a 200 dollar phone beats it in benchmarks and general use. Or may be I'm
expecting too much off this device.
After a month or so of use.. This is what I feel-
Stock jelly bean- Battery life is good(as long as u keep the screen off )
Typing and general UI is way too laggy.
Touchwiz is beautiful ( I know am the only one but I really like the design and transitions)
Spen is nicely integrated and snote is nicely designed. I use it a lot personally (only after it opens a decade to open)
Cyanogenmod 10.3 nightlies- Fluid and really usable. Sleek.
Flat and boring untill you dont use a theme.
Camera not at par with stock jb.
Huh.. A lot of writing i guess. These were my observations. But what I really want is stock experience with cyanogenmod like speed.
Is there anyone who's in same sort of situation like me.

walkermoon said:
I really like the spen. But the lag problem is an issue with me too. I flashed indian version first and a few days back
I flashed the Uk xxlt9 firmware(obviously aftera full wipe). But I dont see much difference in those 2 versions. I guess jelly bean
is really too much for this phone(atleast stock one). I tried cyanogenmod too but I really missed the neat built in features of the spen so I
moved back to stock jelly bean. But its really annoying when a 200 dollar phone beats it in benchmarks and general use. Or may be I'm
expecting too much off this device.
After a month or so of use.. This is what I feel-
Stock jelly bean- Battery life is good(as long as u keep the screen off )
Typing and general UI is way too laggy.
Touchwiz is beautiful ( I know am the only one but I really like the design and transitions)
Spen is nicely integrated and snote is nicely designed. I use it a lot personally (only after it opens a decade to open)
Cyanogenmod 10.3 nightlies- Fluid and really usable. Sleek.
Flat and boring untill you dont use a theme.
Camera not at par with stock jb.
Huh.. A lot of writing i guess. These were my observations. But what I really want is stock experience with cyanogenmod like speed.
Is there anyone who's in same sort of situation like me.
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Finally someone that has the same problem with JB.
Man, I usually have 120-150 apps installed (I have to have them) and any JB ROM is UNUSABLE for me. Even stock JB laggs, after restoring my apps it's....agh If the phone wasn't so expensive I would throw it against the wall. Why did JB work on SGS2 like a charm and on the Note it sucks so much?
That's why I had to use ICS. It doesn't have the Spen hovering & scrolling features (which I really miss ) , but it's fast and almost lag free.
However CM10.2 is the fastest I've used so far. I'm really astonished, it's a beta ROM and it's way better than official one (WTF?).
I bought this phone for the Spen and that's why I'm using it a lot. I only hope that the Spen won't start to fell out of the phone as it's getting easier to take it out.
I think I will never switch from the note series, as the spen is veeery important for me (well, maybe when there will be some other phone with thin stylus )

jakuburban said:
Finally someone that has the same problem with JB.
Man, I usually have 120-150 apps installed (I have to have them) and any JB ROM is UNUSABLE for me. Even stock JB laggs, after restoring my apps it's....agh If the phone wasn't so expensive I would throw it against the wall. Why did JB work on SGS2 like a charm and on the Note it sucks so much?
That's why I had to use ICS. It doesn't have the Spen hovering & scrolling features (which I really miss ) , but it's fast and almost lag free.
However CM10.2 is the fastest I've used so far. I'm really astonished, it's a beta ROM and it's way better than official one (WTF?).
I bought this phone for the Spen and that's why I'm using it a lot. I only hope that the Spen won't start to fell out of the phone as it's getting easier to take it out.
I think I will never switch from the note series, as the spen is veeery important for me (well, maybe when there will be some other phone with thin stylus )
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Gimme cyanogenmod with spen features.. I would grab it anyday.

walkermoon said:
Gimme cyanogenmod with spen features.. I would grab it anyday.
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Yeah, give me too hehe.
I would like to see all those hovering etc. stuff. Maybe it will be possible if official 4.3 comes out to note 2 and then it will be ported to our note.
But I don't think so

And the throwing part.. I feel exactly like you.. Lost brothers? Lol

I dont see 4.3 coming to this lovely device anytime soon. But the main point here shouldn't be just running after the latest android version. It should be making the current firmware as best as it can be. How come GB and ICS be faster than JB, no one knows except samsung or god. Lol

walkermoon said:
I dont see 4.3 coming to this lovely device anytime soon. But the main point here shouldn't be just running after the latest android version. It should be making the current firmware as best as it can be. How come GB and ICS be faster than JB, no one knows except samsung or god. Lol
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Ok, the older android versions don't require so good specs, but there shouldn't be such a big difference between ics and jb. I hope the notes 2 official android 4.3 will be ported to our old note 1.
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Has it improved?

I owned a T705, it was my phone and tablet, i loved it.
However, the camera was bad, and the whole Interface was very jittery.
I understand that this device is not getting updates from Samsung, but man, i sure miss the screen real state, also beautiful.
Have lollipop custom roms reached a state where they improve over samsungs touchwiz performance?
I am considering it, alas i read that a new Tab S might be coming.
Thanks.

We have unofficial build of cm12 and its very stable. Way better than touchwiz too. Its still being worked on so its not perfect. CM11 is great on it also. Both do improve performance over touchwiz. There is also a new tab s coming soon but that always expected from samsung. Up to you

DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
We have unofficial build of cm12 and its very stable. Way better than touchwiz too. Its still being worked on so its not perfect. CM11 is great on it also. Both do improve performance over touchwiz. There is also a new tab s coming soon but that always expected from samsung. Up to you
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How is the battery life of the cm12?

This is what I got. I measured screen on times and standby times and this is what i got. This is from the T800 so you may get less because of lte and other stuff

Well, one of the problems if you own a T-705 is that under CM you will lose the phone features (CM 11 and 12 are for the T-700 only). I suggest that you try IronRom instead: definitely smoother than stock.

One rumor we heard is that the next generation flagship tablet will have a 4:3 screen ratio and a 64-bit processor, but it won't be coming until the end of year or late summer at the least. My preference is to have a 16:10 screen on my tab s.

I'd like a 4:3 personally since I do way more reading on my tablet than anything else. 16:10 is better for watching videos, but that's what I have my TV for
I don't have the money to upgrade so soon though

Thank you all for your Input.
My question is, with say, IronRom, is the performance improvement noticeable?
I found The Tab S beautiful, but very choppy overall, maybe the processor wasnt optimized for 2k, even with some custom ROMs (i used Selamba mostly back in the day) the performance of the UI was very below par, however, applications ran well enough, this led me to believe that it might have been touchwiz and not the hardware itself.
Thank you.

Satorikn said:
Thank you all for your Input.
My question is, with say, IronRom, is the performance improvement noticeable?
I found The Tab S beautiful, but very choppy overall, maybe the processor wasnt optimized for 2k, even with some custom ROMs (i used Selamba mostly back in the day) the performance of the UI was very below par, however, applications ran well enough, this led me to believe that it might have been touchwiz and not the hardware itself.
Thank you.
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Iron rom is great. No lag in touchwiz and even with the stock touchwiz launcher, its all smooth. Battery life and performance is great on it too.

DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Iron rom is great. No lag in touchwiz and even with the stock touchwiz launcher, its all smooth. Battery life and performance is great on it too.
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I wish there was a video on how it works on the user interface, i currently own a OnePlus one and have the chance to sell it, i miss the size of a tablet, but i dont want to regret getting it and find out the stutter is still there, there are rumors that it will be getting Lollipop soon too (Tab S), and maybe those optimizations will make the difference.
Thanks again.

Satorikn said:
I wish there was a video on how it works on the user interface, i currently own a OnePlus one and have the chance to sell it, i miss the size of a tablet, but i dont want to regret getting it and find out the stutter is still there, there are rumors that it will be getting Lollipop soon too (Tab S), and maybe those optimizations will make the difference.
Thanks again.
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Lollipop is coming in march/april (sammobile confirmed/estimate). I couldnt find a video on the performance

DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Lollipop is coming in march/april (sammobile confirmed/estimate). I couldnt find a video on the performance
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I was planning to get the T-705 because i dont like carrying two devices around, thats the thing with CM11/12, they dont support calls, so id have to go with IronRom with is pretty much touchwiz, and while it may have optimizations, i dont expect miracles

Satorikn said:
I owned a T705, it was my phone and tablet, i loved it.
I understand that this device is not getting updates from Samsung
Thanks.
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Wait. WHAT??

No, they are updating it, but official updates stopped at 4.4.2, now we have news that they will update it to Lollipop, but after release, there was no continuous updates as with their other devices, and for some people, it was a good sign that samsung just abandoned the device, that's what i meant.

DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Iron rom is great. No lag in touchwiz and even with the stock touchwiz launcher, its all smooth. Battery life and performance is great on it too.
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Come on guys, which part of the stock GUI or launcher is actually choppy? Where is the mythical lag? Haven't seen it myself.

Akopps said:
Come on guys, which part of the stock GUI or launcher is actually choppy? Where is the mythical lag? Haven't seen it myself.
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The part where its choppy on stock firmware is just scrolling through the launcher. It lags when just scrolling through the launcher and switching between some apps (ex clash of clans). Iron rom has none of that. Sometimes the GUI lags when you have too many apps open and it uses all the ram. Example like 16 games open all at once. It can freeze and force a reboot. GUI doesnt lag that much like the launcher. Hope this helps!

DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
The part where its choppy on stock firmware is just scrolling through the launcher. It lags when just scrolling through the launcher and switching between some apps (ex clash of clans). Iron rom has none of that. Sometimes the GUI lags when you have too many apps open and it uses all the ram. Example like 16 games open all at once. It can freeze and force a reboot. GUI doesnt lag that much like the launcher. Hope this helps!
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I am not sure which part of scrolling through launcher is supposed to give lag. I have three screens worth of application icons in the app launcher and I had no problems with those. As for having 16 games open, I don't see how that represents typical usage.

Akopps said:
I am not sure which part of scrolling through launcher is supposed to give lag. I have three screens worth of application icons in the app launcher and I had no problems with those. As for having 16 games open, I don't see how that represents typical usage.
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Lol yeah. If your a typical user, 4-6 apps open or less, it can handle it. 16 apps open would be a user who stresses the cpu and gpu.

Well, in my experience there is some lag basically everywhere with the stock ROM, not only in the launcher. Loading pages and scrolling is also slightly choppy in any browser, and also in applications that use WebView components.
I wouldn't rate this as very evident, especially because the CPU has plenty of cores, but it is there.
With IronRom + SkyHigh kernel + Nova Launcher + things get smoothened just that small bit that makes everything feel right

stopa10 said:
Well, in my experience there is some lag basically everywhere with the stock ROM, not only in the launcher. Loading pages and scrolling is also slightly choppy in any browser, and also in applications that use WebView components.
I wouldn't rate this as very evident, especially because the CPU has plenty of cores, but it is there.
With IronRom + SkyHigh kernel + Nova Launcher + things get smoothened just that small bit that makes everything feel right
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My main problem with the 705 is the poor battery life. Does IronRom improve this?