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Is galaxy S still worth buying?

I want to buy a phone with SuperAMOLED display. I cant afford galaxy S2 and SuperAMOLED nexus S is not available in my country. So that leaves only the galaxy S.
Now I really dont want to root and all that, I just want a good "stock" experience. I dont care about having the highest benchmark score but I do want the user interface and games to run reasonably smooth in comparison to phones like the nexus S and xperia arc.
I have heard galaxy S is very slow if you dont change the memory system that the phone uses? Is stock gingerbread slow as well?
To a user like me would you rather suggest a nexus S and compromise on LCD?

Get a galaxy s, use stock jvt and custom kernel for reliability and speed. Best of all worlds you can also use a theme to make it look better
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I also think that it's still a good choice, you can get it fairly cheap especially as used device from people that are upgrading to the newer device generation.
The AMOLED screen is awesome! I never want a LCD anymore.
But you're right, the stock firmwares are not the best from a speed perspective. A custom Kernel with a lag fix or Cyanogenmod will increase the speed a lot.
But that shouldn't be a show stopper, as you will get all necessary howto's here on XDA devs.

I just purchased SGS too recently, and here are some of the reasons
- 4.0 inches display, although it is common, but it is better than having a 3.5 inches or less screen
- the GPU at SGS is really really rocking! so supporting ICS isnt really a problem
- Super Amoled Display, which phone can be as cheap as SGS and get it? same goes to Gorilla Glass Display on it, so no protective screen is needed ( at least I am not using it)
- Processor? hhmm... sounds normal, but you gotta love Hummingbird than Snapdragon or else
- front camera, some other phone which has the par price with sgs mostly dont have this, do not underrate front camera, they are useful
edit: u gotta love Super Amoled screen, especially under bright sun!

Nexus S SuperClear LCD version is actually a little cheaper than galaxy S. But it's just that it's not superAMOLED.
It will soon get native ICS which is really the biggest thing in it's favour.
Can someone explain something to me. I have heard the memory system of the galaxy S can slow it down "over time"? What does it mean? It will run smoothly for a few days but then gets slower? Am I over thinking about the memory system and it's not actually that bad? Are there other reputable phones which use it as well?
Sorry for all the questions.

I'm running on a custom ROM (MintBerry MIUI) with Thunderbolt script tweaks and I rarely turn off or even reboot my phone. I haven't noticed any slowdowns after long usage.

I bought used galaxy s from a guy at work because he wanted iphone so it would work better with his mac. And i must say i've been pretty pleased. I used it without any modification several months until i needed more power to get a flash game running and started to overclock it etc..
But even without any rooting and modding its pretty decent phone for "normal" use and right now i might buy it instead of s2 if i had too little money. For now i am temped to buy s2 but with modding to my galaxy s is so good i can skip s2 and buy s3 when it comes out, if there is not a better phone coming

Thanks everyone. So seems like stock unrooted galaxy S gingerbread still runs pretty good and things only improve once I am ready to root and all.
Will be buying galaxy S, SuperAMOLED FTW.

The Galaxy S is not slow at all if you run it on froyo 2.2.1. But on Gingerbread roms, there will be some microlags

Update it to stock firmware called "JVT". This version is rock stable, incredible gaming performance, modem has no signal issues etc.
I am using it, however I am using a kernel and a script, both of which were very easy to install took less than 5 mins and this is the best phone I have used yet.

Only thing i complain about galaxy s is that its slow on browser flash games and without modding and overclocking they don't usually work at all. But then again s2 it works but is laggy. Flash is old and bad and very heavy so no wonder. But without that need of flash i would not much consider of changing to any other phone from galaxy s if i don't got extra money in my pocket.
oh and if you are really cheap a friend got one of those zte phones if i recall the name.. well anyway it had 3 letters and they are slow. Well rooting and modding them they are pretty decent phones to use so you could save some money doing that.

Im very pleased with my Galaxy, before i got this little baby i used to gargle at the top phones all the time.
But this bright charming little thing still got everything i need! Its fast, screen is great, lots of custom roms (including ICS). Battery is good enough if you calibrate iy
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I first had the phone complete stock for a month or two, I'd say it was pretty fast, and I believe it actually never crashed. But then I became to tempted with al the root stuff, and things like voodoo sound. At first I didn't understand at all what a kernel and all that does, and completely panicked when the phone got a bootloop after I flashed something. Ofcourse, after some time you understand what it all means and that sgs is actually really, really very hard to brick. Now I'm try new kernels or Roms every now and then, but I'm really good with my setup now. All that modding and flashing makes the phone faster, but you just gotta need something to understand it.
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Gambler_3 said:
I want to buy a phone with SuperAMOLED display. I cant afford galaxy S2 and SuperAMOLED nexus S is not available in my country. So that leaves only the galaxy S.
Now I really dont want to root and all that, I just want a good "stock" experience. I dont care about having the highest benchmark score but I do want the user interface and games to run reasonably smooth in comparison to phones like the nexus S and xperia arc.
I have heard galaxy S is very slow if you dont change the memory system that the phone uses? Is stock gingerbread slow as well?
To a user like me would you rather suggest a nexus S and compromise on LCD?
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galaxy s with early froyo was slow,with gingerbread is a beast. so hell yeah,it worths buying it

[Q] Galaxy Note: The amount of its laggyness?

Hello Fellow Members,
Okay I have been reading a lot of complaints about the Note being laggy and frankly even I came across a couple of Galaxy Notes at two different malls/stores on display and they both lagged like anything. Although the lag was for just a couple of seconds but it was very frustrating. I noticed the lag throughout in the OS, right from swiping the home screens to scrolling in the settings or scrolling the browsing or while opening the apps. (Any app). And it became even more frustrating to see a previous model (Galaxy s2) working as smooth as melting butter. I operated them side by side and, man the difference was noticeable, seriously NOTICEABLE. I was soooooooooo disappointed. I had the cash with me but I was just not willing to believe, such a high spec’d phone would lag . And eventually I came from the store without purchasing one .
I have read on XDA forums also where many G-Note users have complained about their experiences of Galaxy Note being laggy. Hence, I would “request” you all to please make short videos of your galaxy Notes, upload on youtube and share the link with us here, so that someone who wants to buy a NOTE would see the amount of laggyness of the phone and then decide, whether this lag is acceptable or inacceptable for him/them. Please show the scrolling on contacts, S-pen notes, swiping between home screens, scrolling the browser etc.
Please guys, come forward and do so, as I youtubed a lot but couldn’t find videos showing the laggyness of Note. All videos are filled with how smooth and fast the NOTE is. And seeing that, I went to purchase one but….
P.S: Rooting isn’t an option for me as this will void the warranty and I don’t want to void my warranty. Hence no rooting
Also, people say that ICS will solve the issue. I have seen on other phones that initially it does make the device faster but with daily usage, it becomes same as it used to be with the previous version of OS.

Rooting will void your warranty but but if done in correct way you can unroot and get it back.
Older firmware were slow and laggy but LC1 and LC2 are smooth.
Have you tried V6 SuperCharger or ThunderBolt scripts before ? You'll need root though.
These littile thing inject steroids in your phone.

Wait wait wait wait.
You have used such difficult Jargons of Andriod world that I am just not able to catch you up .
Okay, as you have mentioned, V6 SuperCharger or ThunderBolt scripts will require Rooting my device (although I have no idea what are V6 SuperCharger or ThunderBolt scripts), but tell me these LC1 and LC2 are firmware updates, right? And they can be updated "without" rooting the device. Isn't it?
And this update will make G-Note blazing fast, like s2?

Guys, please respond and help.

filthykid said:
Wait wait wait wait.
You have used such difficult Jargons of Andriod world that I am just not able to catch you up .
Okay, as you have mentioned, V6 SuperCharger or ThunderBolt scripts will require Rooting my device (although I have no idea what are V6 SuperCharger or ThunderBolt scripts), but tell me these LC1 and LC2 are firmware updates, right? And they can be updated "without" rooting the device. Isn't it?
And this update will make G-Note blazing fast, like s2?
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Dont compare Note and S2. The same processor and same GPU in S2 powers a smaller screen with less pixels and less DPI. Here in Note you have the same processor and GPU power a huge HD screen with the best DPI in business. Also all the apps are built on hdpi resolution while the note is xhdpi resolution so the apps and launchers tend to get laggy. Also there is no hardware acceleration supported in much apps. I am using ICS Stunner and using it on 240 dpi which is hdpi resolution and its silk smooth. Butter!
And i dont have time to make videos. So if you can then take my word. If not then each one to his own
Cheers!! Enjoy your Note!!

You don't need to be rooted to update firmware.
Use pc odin or built-in OTA (Over The Air - Phone updates itself using 3G/WiFi) update feature.

update to the latest stock firmware released in 2012.....should b much smoother. But we're all waiting for ics which should be out very soon.
advice: go bak to the shop......remove all widgets on homescreen and/or change wallpaper to static nd try. I have noticed that some live wallpapers and widgets cause lagginess. I usually remove everythng from the homescreen and start adding them 1 by 1 and checkng.....one widget sometimes is the culprit.
Ics should smooth everythng as some have reported.

Owned a Note and 7.7
7.7 slightly slower than Nexus, Note is laggy, esp when not turned off for days.

abhisahara said:
Dont compare Note and S2. The same processor and same GPU in S2 powers a smaller screen with less pixels and less DPI. Here in Note you have the same processor and GPU power a huge HD screen with the best DPI in business. Also all the apps are built on hdpi resolution while the note is xhdpi resolution so the apps and launchers tend to get laggy. Also there is no hardware acceleration supported in much apps. I am using ICS Stunner and using it on 240 dpi which is hdpi resolution and its silk smooth. Butter!
And i dont have time to make videos. So if you can then take my word. If not then each one to his own
Cheers!! Enjoy your Note!!
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Thanks for your comment.
I am not saying it should run games which require excellent acceleration or requires immense power from GPU, as I am not into heavy mobile games. All I require is butter smooth execution of day-to-day usage. Be it scrolling contact, scrolling web page, swiping through 10 application screens or swiping 7 home screens.
using it on 240 dpi which is hdpi resolution
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Waht's the actual dpi for Note? Or this is the original dpi?

russeini said:
update to the latest stock firmware released in 2012.....should b much smoother. But we're all waiting for ics which should be out very soon.
advice: go bak to the shop......remove all widgets on homescreen and/or change wallpaper to static nd try. I have noticed that some live wallpapers and widgets cause lagginess. I usually remove everythng from the homescreen and start adding them 1 by 1 and checkng.....one widget sometimes is the culprit.
Ics should smooth everythng as some have reported.
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Your response is somewhat relieving I must tell you. But the comment under your post is disturbing . I mean I want a butter smooth tock ROM device and after paying $607 for G-Note, I don’t want to regret and speed it a “very” essential part of my checklist of a smart phone.

unpro said:
Owned a Note and 7.7
7.7 slightly slower than Nexus, Note is laggy, esp when not turned off for days.
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Have you ever tried updating its firmware and stuff to make it faster? (as mentioned above in this post) If you have and still it lags, then that’s a concern for me (and perhaps for your and for many others too who are thinking of owning one)

filthykid said:
Thanks for your comment.
I am not saying it should run games which require excellent acceleration or requires immense power from GPU, as I am not into heavy mobile games. All I require is butter smooth execution of day-to-day usage. Be it scrolling contact, scrolling web page, swiping through 10 application screens or swiping 7 home screens.
Waht's the actual dpi for Note? Or this is the original dpi?
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I never specifically told about games. To have everything buttery smooth u require hardware acceleration which gpu provides in the apps browser and launchers. So gpu is not just for games. Now you got why i told you all that above. To have everything running smooth on such big screen and resolution u require hardware acceleration. Ever noticed lag in all third party launchers? Its becoz they don't have hardware acceleration. The stock TW launcher is partially hw accelerated so still runs somewhat smooth.
The original dpi of Note is 321
BOOMED from my BOMBASTIC NOTE

Tbh you can't really blame the note for being a tad laggy since it is basically a computer and all computers ( even the best) will come across a type of lag within its lifetime.
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abhisahara said:
I never specifically told about games. To have everything buttery smooth u require hardware acceleration which gpu provides in the apps browser and launchers. So gpu is not just for games. Now you got why i told you all that above. To have everything running smooth on such big screen and resolution u require hardware acceleration. Ever noticed lag in all third party launchers? Its becoz they don't have hardware acceleration. The stock TW launcher is partially hw accelerated so still runs somewhat smooth.
The original dpi of Note is 321
BOOMED from my BOMBASTIC NOTE
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

krhn said:
Tbh you can't really blame the note for being a tad laggy since it is basically a computer and all computers ( even the best) will come across a type of lag within its lifetime.
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Well then that sucks

here is a tip to the op.. You will find 99% of all problems you look for.. If you didnt look, you would not know there are problems.
The key to happiness in life is being happy with what you have and setting your expectations ot a reasonable level..
If you dont need the large screen, go buy something else. If you do need the large screen, then you have no choice but the note..
so either relax and enjoy your note or be paranoid about this and every other device on the planet, and buy every new device as it comes out and drive yourself into a frenzy of despair about this problem, that problem, this issue that issue until you realise all this agony and money has not fixed a single thing in your life, you are stressed, depressed and you end up a bankrupt nuerotic..

Mystic38 said:
here is a tip to the op.. You will find 99% of all problems you look for.. If you didnt look, you would not know there are problems.
The key to happiness in life is being happy with what you have and setting your expectations ot a reasonable level..
If you dont need the large screen, go buy something else. If you do need the large screen, then you have no choice but the note..
so either relax and enjoy your note or be paranoid about this and every other device on the planet, and buy every new device as it comes out and drive yourself into a frenzy of despair about this problem, that problem, this issue that issue until you realise all this agony and money has not fixed a single thing in your life, you are stressed, depressed and you end up a bankrupt nuerotic..
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This device has NOTHING bad in it.. Just the LAG LAG LAG!
Nice post though! Loved it.

I am using stock GB and I have almost no lag. Maybe you should make a video and show us what lag you are talking about.

I am using stock rom (gingerbread) at the moment and experience none of the lag you refer to. I also tried some of the ics roms and also no lag.
The only time my phone 'hesitates' is sometimes when I unlock it as it switches from widget locker to lock screen. Now as it is a 3rd party app doing it, I can hardly blame the note. I love my note and even got rid of my galaxy nexus and asus tf101 when i got the note.
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filthykid said:
Have you ever tried updating its firmware and stuff to make it faster? (as mentioned above in this post) If you have and still it lags, then that’s a concern for me (and perhaps for your and for many others too who are thinking of owning one)
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It's on the latest firmware available in my country (Malaysia)
All I can think is, Gingerbread is just far inferior to ICS or Honeycomb. Nokia Lumia is a lot faster too (hope that word is not banned here)
Then again, some items images/video captured in 7.7 is only 3.2mp vs 8mp.

Galaxy S2 vs Optimus 2X

Hi guys!!
I was out yesterday night with some friends and one of them had a S2, so I asked if I could test drive it.
It had stock ICS (4.0.3), versus my P990 with temasek's (almost) latest ROM and vadonka's kernel.
I have to say... other than the screen (that is a lovely 4.3" vs P990's 4") and the phone is practically the same size, so that's very cool... but other than that, I don't regret my buy one bit. The P990 feels smoother and is more responsive, navigating through menus, homescreens and even web browsing!
So all I have to say... congratulations to all dev's, and congratulations LG for putting together a very nice piece of hardware (even if the software is not up to par).

LarsPT said:
Hi guys!!
I was out yesterday night with some friends and one of them had a S2, so I asked if I could test drive it.
It had stock ICS (4.0.3), versus my P990 with temasek's (almost) latest ROM and vadonka's kernel.
I have to say... other than the screen (that is a lovely 4.3" vs P990's 4") and the phone is practically the same size, so that's very cool... but other than that, I don't regret my buy one bit. The P990 feels smoother and is more responsive, navigating through menus, homescreens and even web browsing!
So all I have to say... congratulations to all dev's, and congratulations LG for putting together a very nice piece of hardware (even if the software is not up to par).
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But Samsung Galaxy S2 is still overpriced!

Be proud of your lg, no network in ireland sell any good lg devices, they think we all want iphone or sammy.
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But surely the stock s2 is way better then o2x...
Maybe s2 cm7 is better then o2x?? Anyone confirm this?? (the specs of s2 seems better)

Having used my O2X alongside my Dad's GS2, I can't think of any redeemable qualities that our phone has. The screen on the the S2 is nicer, it's bigger, it's thinner, it has better support from Samsung, it's faster. It's just better.

You just can't compare with s2 ...probably with s advance when 2x with cm7 and s advance with stock...and if with lg stock than you can compare with there galaxy ace...lg stock software is way behind

Who cares, currently the o2x is poo it need ics or jellybean all the roms or gingerbread and froyo suck.
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I wouldnt trade mine for s2 tho i like its bigger screen.Much better design for 2x.
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Dude, aren't you exaggerating a bit? Sure, stock GB sucks a*s, but Temasek's CM7, Stefan's Hybrids, TonyP's PA (and more) are fast and v stable. I am actually very happy w my o2x and as i mentioned b4 Temasek's CM7 has been a cure for my flashaholism for months now. On the subject, i couldn't comment because i haven't seen a sgs2 in action, but i suspect that it would do a bit more than the o2x due to specs.. In the end though, it all comes down to software (as all here know..)

eraldo said:
Who cares, currently the o2x is poo it need ics or jellybean all the roms or gingerbread and froyo suck.
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Like KoolSavas said... it's not only about the android version!
I don't know what you use your phone for... but I use it to make phone call, send text messages, check facebook, check my stocks/bank account, play some poker, ocasionally surf the web and do google searches, take the ocasional picture, stuff like that...
So doesn't matter what's the android version, I want what makes my experience smoother and more enjoyable.
Having said this, I wasn't trying to say that O2X was better than the S2 in an absolute way.
I haven't compared stock O2X vs stock S2, but I do believe that stock S2 will probably fare better in that comparison.
What I did mean to say was that thanks to our dear developers my O2X can not only hold its own, but it actually looks smoother and more responsive than an S2. Of course, if someone were to put CM10 on the S2 it would probably be even better, but that wasn't my point.
And please do not forget that the price tag of an S2 is quite different from the price tag of an O2X.
That's all!

And please do not forget that the price tag of an S2 is quite different from the price tag of an O2X.
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Thats really a VERY important factor.. While o2x price has plumbed, the sgs2 is still quite pricey considering its age. To be fair, i think that now would probably be the best time ever to buy an o2x. Right b4 the ICS update, enough time to play around with a few ROMs and hello ICS(/CM10?)

Buying an o2x would be simply more clever. In germany the price difference is between 100-115€. There is no really good reason to buy the S2. Also the o2x is with its 4'IPS more ergonomical. I would wait until ICS is released then buy the o2x, its worth the money.
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dorwoo said:
I wouldnt trade mine for s2 tho i like its bigger screen.Much better design for 2x.
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True, but the colors (from 3 devices i have seen) are WAY of.
All 3 had blue or green tint in color or gray scale

N3mesis said:
Buying an o2x would be simply more clever. In germany the price difference is between 100-115€. There is no really good reason to buy the S2. Also the o2x is with its 4'IPS more ergonomical. I would wait until ICS is released then buy the o2x, its worth the money.
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I agree with the first part but I actually I don't agree with the last part... (about the 4" IPS)...
What impressed me the most (or maybe the only thing that impressed me) about the S2 was that, even though both phones have practically the same size, the S2 manages to have that extra .3" compared to the O2X (the O2X wastes a lot of screen space at the bottom).
So I'm pretty much convinced my next phone will have at least 4.3".

Other than the software support from Samsung, I dont think there is much difference in other areas.
But I would give up my O2X for S2 just for that quick software upgrades S2 enjoys...

Its good that you think O2x is good. But the reality is, the S2 has better hardware, its faster and it has better support. Official JB is going to land for the S2 in October.
And to the guy that posted gaming video, I raise you this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYkEUOA6Spo
Yes thats 1080p Youtube in browser, O2x has been reduced to a slide-viewer.

My friend has a s2 and it's faster but the screen looks green
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i have a friend with an s2 (stock GB) and my o2x with tony's ICS is way smoother and better looking. As much as i want to, the o2x simply isn't a better phone but the fact that we have rooted and flashed custom roms (thanks DEVs) we are able to overcome the shortages and even beat the better phone. YEY grey matter.

KoolSavas95 said:
Nobody can tell me that the s2 is better. Look how the s2 is lagging:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qAFs9OQinNo&desktop_uri=/watch?v=qAFs9OQinNo&gl=US
The 2x is great.
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you cannot compare by watching a stupid youtube video and since you dont own an SII yourself you obviusly dont know the deal
I own both the O2X and the SII which I got after having gone through 4 defective O2X's - and the one I got now still doesnt work bugfree
The SII blow the O2X away in everything and Im just on stock rom for both the SII and the O2X
- it NEVER lags, it has tons better memory management and 1gb ram, meaning nomatter what I do or how long I've had my phone running, or how much I multitask, it NEVER runs out of memory and slows down or starts to lag. Its buttersmooth allways
Samsung constantly sends out updates for it, and its now running stock 4.04 ics - its bugfree, everything works perfect.
Samsung will be sending out jelly bean for it before we even get ICS for O2X
Screen is lots better - not just bigger but looks better.
Batterytime is better - I can go 2-3 days on my SII and only 1 day on the O2X with the same usage pattern
Videoplayback is lots better than O2X which cannot play high profile h264 - my SII plays every video perfect
Camera is lots better, both regular camera and videocamera
Design is better, buildquality is better
It has more internal memory 16gb vs 8gb
Sound quality when playing music is better
I mean anything you can think of comparing is just better on the SII - and the overall feel when using it and everything just works, constantly, is a blessing.
I loved my O2X when I got it, and I stuck by it for a long time before getting the SII - but Im sorry to have to say theres just no comparison at all.

I'm sorry to hear about your very bad experience with the O2X spawndk.
If I were in your situation I would most probably share your exact same opinion. (Un)fortunately, at this moment, I believe I have tweaked my O2X to the best of its capabilities.
I think you were very unlucky with your O2X's, thus your opinion is clearly biased. There are a lot of users in this forum quite happy with their O2X's, as I am, so I don't think your comparison would be true to most people.
I don't think the O2X is better than an S2, nor should it be, as they are not direct competitors (price-wise). I just think that, all things considered, an O2X is not a regrettable choice (for me, and perhaps for most people).

[Q] Worth getting?

I currently have a Galaxy Ace 2 but I have the urge to get something a little more powerful and I noticed the Razr i is quite cheap at £159.99.
A few questions though, given that the device is single core, does everything work really smooth? How do high-intensity games play?
Is Skype compatible?
Many thanks

cined said:
I currently have a Galaxy Ace 2 but I have the urge to get something a little more powerful and I noticed the Razr i is quite cheap at £159.99.
A few questions though, given that the device is single core, does everything work really smooth? How do high-intensity games play?
Is Skype compatible?
Many thanks
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For the actual price you won't get anything better:
- the atom single core is fast and power efficient, the phone is really responsive (for an android phone)
- huge battery (2000 mAh)
- a really nice metal frame chassis with kevlar application on the back. And it's a really compact phone, almost the same form factor as an iPhone 5.
- the screen is not really competetive with the new high end full HD displays, nevertheless it's got really vivid but no too overpowered colours and the pentile matrix is only visible if you really want to see it
- multicolor notification LED
- Android is only slightly themed by Motorola. Anyhow the Motorola icons are ugly as hell and you will have to unlock the bootloader to achive root and flash a themed mod to get back the plain AOSP style.
- Skype is compatible. Allmost all (non high-end game) apps are compatible today.
In fact there still are non compatible games. Look up the thread in Mods & Apps for well working games.
In conclusion there are of course better phones on the market, but they are all huge like frying pans and are not available at this price point.

hypophysis said:
For the actual price you won't get anything better:
- the atom single core is fast and power efficient, the phone is really responsive (for an android phone)
- huge battery (2000 mAh)
- a really nice metal frame chassis with kevlar application on the back. And it's a really compact phone, almost the same form factor as an iPhone 5.
- the screen is not really competetive with the new high end full HD displays, nevertheless it's got really vivid but no too overpowered colours and the pentile matrix is only visible if you really want to see it
- multicolor notification LED
- Android is only slightly themed by Motorola. Anyhow the Motorola icons are ugly as hell and you will have to unlock the bootloader to achive root and flash a themed mod to get back the plain AOSP style.
- Skype is compatible. Allmost all (non high-end game) apps are compatible today.
In fact there still are non compatible games. Look up the thread in Mods & Apps for well working games.
In conclusion there are of course better phones on the market, but they are all huge like frying pans and are not available at this price point.
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Thank you for the informative reply.
The main thing I wanted to know is wether it'd be worth upgrading from the Ace 2.

cined said:
Thank you for the informative reply.
The main thing I wanted to know is wether it'd be worth upgrading from the Ace 2.
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Can anyone else offer any advice please?

cined said:
Can anyone else offer any advice please?
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Try compare ace 2 and razr i on gsmarena.com
there you can see the differece. And in my opinion, the razr i would be a great upgrade for you!

Look, I play all sorts on mine other than NFS most wanted which for me is the only lagging game. The 2ghz processor is brilliant and has multi threading and the phone its self is practically bulletproof haha I drop mine all the time and its still mint. You don't need to ask about upgrading, just do it. There isn't a chance you'll regret it. Its miles ahead of an ace 2
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Touchwiz on lollipop is garbage

I mean reallyyyy it just lags lags and feels that someon is strangling those octa-cores i had a note 3 before and i already can tell you this phone is a downgrade in terms of software. The only thing that stands in this phone is the gorgeous display. I could have said lollipop on note 4 is garbage but thats what it is. Please share your experience and let samsumg know that iphone 4 is still getting updates faster than samsungs latest flagship
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Lollipop is definitely faster than Kitkat for me.
It's also faster than the Note 3.
You are correct about the slow updates though.

Same thoughts as Nuu...besides the slow updates mine is smooth as on 5.01 =)
No complaints as all...cept maybe faster Multitask button....

same for me too lag in multitasking button, and laggy call screen and some bugs. without these its just great for me fast and reliable and good on battery too. performance is on par with my s6 edge and note 4 is way better in multitasking and ram management.

sirwanesmail said:
I mean reallyyyy it just lags lags and feels that someon is strangling those octa-cores i had a note 3 before and i already can tell you this phone is a downgrade in terms of software. The only thing that stands in this phone is the gorgeous display. I could have said lollipop on note 4 is garbage but thats what it is. Please share your experience and let samsumg know that iphone 4 is still getting updates faster than samsungs latest flagship
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Agreed, but that's why CM12 exists: blazing fast and quick on the updates (currently on lollipop 5.1.1). Other option would be to sell the Note and buy the new LG G4 for example

You do know that you could just install a 3rd Party Launcher onto your Note 4? You don't have to stick with touchwiz.

gekkehenkie11 said:
Agreed, but that's why CM12 exists: blazing fast and quick on the updates (currently on lollipop 5.1.1). Other option would be to sell the Note and buy the new LG G4 for example
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If you don't care about the camera or s-pen, CM12 would be an option. The camera thing has always stopped me from using CM on my Note 4 and my S3. I nicely debloated TW based rom and a different launcher like Nova is what I always did. YMMV.

Stock touch wiz is pretty crappie I've not had the lag like you described but just not a huge touch wiz fan.
you can get a sped up launcher in the apps section which helps quite a bit and makes it as snappy as I can be. But as above you best bet is a 3rd party launcher.
Do some debloating or use Simplrom which is already heavily slimmed down And has very good speed.
and we have 12.1 in the pipeline which should be good also.
Don't write ya note 4 off yet

pappcam said:
If you don't care about the camera or s-pen, CM12 would be an option. The camera thing has always stopped me from using CM on my Note 4 and my S3. I nicely debloated TW based rom and a different launcher like Nova is what I always did. YMMV.
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The samsung touchwiz cam is quite a nice *free* app and I understand some people might miss it. And it's definitely better than the CM stock camera app, I don't like that one too much neither, it's just too basic. But luckily there are some quite good 3rd party cam apps out there nowadays. My previous favourite was FV-5 camera, but I'm now really hooked on Snap Camera. You can download a trial in the playstore, see if you like it. Picture quality in TW using a 3rd party cam is always the same as in CM, so that's good way to judge if you like it.
And about S-pen, that works great in CM12, out of the box, including hovering. Sure, out of the box it's a bit less integrated into the system, but there are some really nice apps for it if you want some more integrated s-pen functionality, mimicking pretty much Touchwiz, including a similar s-pen popup menu and for example cropped screenshots. See the video here for example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/app-app-samsung-devices-provided-stylus-t3000448 With this app you pretty much have the same S-pen functionality as Touchwiz.

Yes i can do that but the skin and the thing that kills the cpu is touchwiz which is in setting + dialer + snote + etc and all those cannot be changed by another launcher
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Its wierd but ive been using nova for years. But stock tw launcher is faster than nova in 5.0 i noticed that on my friends phone. He had stock and i had nova but app opening response etc was faster on tw there is basically delay on nova. So i rolled back to tw
And i think slowdown problems could be about apps. Cuz i had wierd slowdowns on 1st update but boc3 totally fixed all problems for me like i said my problems are multitasking button delay(which exist on my s6 too i dont expect a fix for it), call screen delay and gpu bug other these its really a great update for me.

https://youtu.be/8Gk8WoVjxiA ... put at 5:15 .. then watch .. if TouchWiz is garbage what the pure android is ?

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https://youtu.be/8Gk8WoVjxiA ... put at 5:15 .. then watch .. if TouchWiz is garbage what the pure android is ?
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The Nexus probably has encryption enabled, which slows the device down. And is this an Exynos ? That device seems to respond faster in Touchwiz than the snapdragon.

gekkehenkie11 said:
The Nexus probably has encryption enabled, which slows the device down. And is this an Exynos ? That device seems to respond faster in Touchwiz than the snapdragon.
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Yes, it's the Exynos version, and if we active the Knox continues protection, doesn't change nothing, some users even reported that activing this feature improves the overall performance.

not seeing the issues you are seeing.
Stock Samsung Lollipop is better than Stock Samsung KitKat for sure.

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not seeing the issues you are seeing.
Stock Samsung Lollipop is better than Stock Samsung KitKat for sure.
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Love posts like this. You did not see it, so naturally did not happen
Touchwiz is laggy in places and this is not something that even surprises anyone anymore. Use a nexus 6 for a few days and come back to note 4, yea the lag can get to you at times. However its fine as an overall package and that's all that matters.

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Love posts like this. You did not see it, so naturally did not happen
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I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I'm just not seeing it on my phone.
This is useful information which means there are *conditions* for the problem to show itself.
If the guy is really interested in knowing why there is a discrepancy in experiences he will ask me for more details in my setup.

Is that even a conversation samsung itself knows that TW is laggy but the whole point of this just look at Sense UI on the old m7 i mean even its 3 years old but it feels faster than note 4 which has that fancy octa core processors. But you see the point is that it doesnt matter how many cores you have under the hood. Optimization is the key . if i have buggati veyron with flat tyres i would be outrun by a golf. Let me say again the whole point of this is to let samsung hear our plea and respond
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Is that even a conversation samsung itself knows that TW is laggy but the whole point of this just look at Sense UI on the old m7 i mean even its 3 years old but it feels faster than note 4 which has that fancy octa core processors. But you see the point is that it doesnt matter how many cores you have under the hood. Optimization is the key . if i have buggati veyron with flat tyres i would be outrun by a golf. Let me say again the whole point of this is to let samsung hear our plea and respond
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It would be nice if they even gave us the choice of an AOSP rom with their camera and some TW functions. With a custom kernel and TW apps frozen, TW is fine and doesn't lag too much but to do this you need to root and invalidate your warranty.

OD2 build for 910G is blazing fast!! the way kitkat is meant to be .. the previous version boc6 was not up to the mark. Probably 910F and other users will feel the difference once u get OD series roms