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[Q] Exchanging SII with NOTE __ Worth it?

Hi there!
Have been using SII for about a year and a half now.
I don't know how but recently i have got tired of this 4 inchy and
really want a bigger screen.
And I'm getting an offer to exchange it with galaxy note. On paper galaxy note seems
ted powerful and with a better display as well.
But what I'm really concerned about is the real life difference in performance. I have heard from some
friends that NOTE is actually on a bit slower side than SII.
Would love to hear from guys who have used both the phones and please suggest should I go for the exchange.
Thanks.

walkermoon said:
Hi there!
Have been using SII for about a year and a half now.
I don't know how but recently i have got tired of this 4 inchy and
really want a bigger screen.
And I'm getting an offer to exchange it with galaxy note. On paper galaxy note seems
ted powerful and with a better display as well.
But what I'm really concerned about is the real life difference in performance. I have heard from some
friends that NOTE is actually on a bit slower side than SII.
Would love to hear from guys who have used both the phones and please suggest should I go for the exchange.
Thanks.
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It's barely noticeable slower. Specially in screens transitions and scrolling through lists that have images.
Maybe because of the higher resolution of the screen.
But in my opinion totally worth the upgrade
The bigger screen makes watching videos and playing games an amazing experience

Total worth the upgrade mate.
Go ahead and do it. Good luck :thumbup:
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Thats what I'm really concerned about. The reslotion of the galaxy note is almost 70 to 80 percent more than galaxy SII.
Theoretically that should mean galaxy note require around 1.8 to 2 Ghz dual core processor if I'm right to perform as snappier as galaxy SII.
And that's why there's a lag in UI and general use I guess.
I really like the s pen and the screen size.
But I do feel HD resolution is too much of an asking for a dual core.
Please correct and guide me if I'm wrong.
Waiting for your comments eagerly.

As far as I know, the pixels are "moved around" by the GPU , not the CPU.
So the processor has nothing to do with the lag.

walkermoon said:
Thats what I'm really concerned about. The reslotion of the galaxy note is almost 70 to 80 percent more than galaxy SII.
Theoretically that should mean galaxy note require around 1.8 to 2 Ghz dual core processor if I'm right to perform as snappier as galaxy SII.
And that's why there's a lag in UI and general use I guess.
I really like the s pen and the screen size.
But I do feel HD resolution is too much of an asking for a dual core.
Please correct and guide me if I'm wrong.
Waiting for your comments eagerly.
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The pixels are rendered by the GPU, not the CPU, but yes, they are also the same, and it's the reason for the difference.
It can get pretty smooth tough. Don't worry about performance. You won't have any trouble

projeto56;43692282pixels are rendered by the GPU said:
sherbibv said:
As far as I know, the pixels are "moved around" by the GPU , not the CPU.
So the processor has nothing to do with the lag.
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Thanks guys
Getting it tommorow
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Thanks to all.
Got Note finally. And after a month of use I don't think I would look back. Cheers.

Yes, the note is slower than s2. I also can't use android 4.1.2 as it's extremely laggy (this may happen only with my note).
The phones screen size makes it impossible to comfortably use this phone with one hand, so You mostly have to use both of Your hands.
If You're aiming for a bigger screen or for the spen's precision I would definitely recommend You this phone.
I must say I wouldn't go back to s2,as the spen is very important for me.
What do You want from this phone?
Nvm. Haven't seen the last post
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jakuburban said:
Yes, the note is slower than s2. I also can't use android 4.1.2 as it's extremely laggy (this may happen only with my note).
The phones screen size makes it impossible to comfortably use this phone with one hand, so You mostly have to use both of Your hands.
If You're aiming for a bigger screen or for the spen's precision I would definitely recommend You this phone.
I must say I wouldn't go back to s2,as the spen is very important for me.
What do You want from this phone?
Nvm. Haven't seen the last post
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I really like the spen. But the lag problem is an issue with me too. I flashed indian version first and a few days back
I flashed the Uk xxlt9 firmware(obviously aftera full wipe). But I dont see much difference in those 2 versions. I guess jelly bean
is really too much for this phone(atleast stock one). I tried cyanogenmod too but I really missed the neat built in features of the spen so I
moved back to stock jelly bean. But its really annoying when a 200 dollar phone beats it in benchmarks and general use. Or may be I'm
expecting too much off this device.
After a month or so of use.. This is what I feel-
Stock jelly bean- Battery life is good(as long as u keep the screen off )
Typing and general UI is way too laggy.
Touchwiz is beautiful ( I know am the only one but I really like the design and transitions)
Spen is nicely integrated and snote is nicely designed. I use it a lot personally (only after it opens a decade to open)
Cyanogenmod 10.3 nightlies- Fluid and really usable. Sleek.
Flat and boring untill you dont use a theme.
Camera not at par with stock jb.
Huh.. A lot of writing i guess. These were my observations. But what I really want is stock experience with cyanogenmod like speed.
Is there anyone who's in same sort of situation like me.

walkermoon said:
I really like the spen. But the lag problem is an issue with me too. I flashed indian version first and a few days back
I flashed the Uk xxlt9 firmware(obviously aftera full wipe). But I dont see much difference in those 2 versions. I guess jelly bean
is really too much for this phone(atleast stock one). I tried cyanogenmod too but I really missed the neat built in features of the spen so I
moved back to stock jelly bean. But its really annoying when a 200 dollar phone beats it in benchmarks and general use. Or may be I'm
expecting too much off this device.
After a month or so of use.. This is what I feel-
Stock jelly bean- Battery life is good(as long as u keep the screen off )
Typing and general UI is way too laggy.
Touchwiz is beautiful ( I know am the only one but I really like the design and transitions)
Spen is nicely integrated and snote is nicely designed. I use it a lot personally (only after it opens a decade to open)
Cyanogenmod 10.3 nightlies- Fluid and really usable. Sleek.
Flat and boring untill you dont use a theme.
Camera not at par with stock jb.
Huh.. A lot of writing i guess. These were my observations. But what I really want is stock experience with cyanogenmod like speed.
Is there anyone who's in same sort of situation like me.
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Finally someone that has the same problem with JB.
Man, I usually have 120-150 apps installed (I have to have them) and any JB ROM is UNUSABLE for me. Even stock JB laggs, after restoring my apps it's....agh If the phone wasn't so expensive I would throw it against the wall. Why did JB work on SGS2 like a charm and on the Note it sucks so much?
That's why I had to use ICS. It doesn't have the Spen hovering & scrolling features (which I really miss ) , but it's fast and almost lag free.
However CM10.2 is the fastest I've used so far. I'm really astonished, it's a beta ROM and it's way better than official one (WTF?).
I bought this phone for the Spen and that's why I'm using it a lot. I only hope that the Spen won't start to fell out of the phone as it's getting easier to take it out.
I think I will never switch from the note series, as the spen is veeery important for me (well, maybe when there will be some other phone with thin stylus )

jakuburban said:
Finally someone that has the same problem with JB.
Man, I usually have 120-150 apps installed (I have to have them) and any JB ROM is UNUSABLE for me. Even stock JB laggs, after restoring my apps it's....agh If the phone wasn't so expensive I would throw it against the wall. Why did JB work on SGS2 like a charm and on the Note it sucks so much?
That's why I had to use ICS. It doesn't have the Spen hovering & scrolling features (which I really miss ) , but it's fast and almost lag free.
However CM10.2 is the fastest I've used so far. I'm really astonished, it's a beta ROM and it's way better than official one (WTF?).
I bought this phone for the Spen and that's why I'm using it a lot. I only hope that the Spen won't start to fell out of the phone as it's getting easier to take it out.
I think I will never switch from the note series, as the spen is veeery important for me (well, maybe when there will be some other phone with thin stylus )
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Gimme cyanogenmod with spen features.. I would grab it anyday.

walkermoon said:
Gimme cyanogenmod with spen features.. I would grab it anyday.
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Yeah, give me too hehe.
I would like to see all those hovering etc. stuff. Maybe it will be possible if official 4.3 comes out to note 2 and then it will be ported to our note.
But I don't think so

And the throwing part.. I feel exactly like you.. Lost brothers? Lol

I dont see 4.3 coming to this lovely device anytime soon. But the main point here shouldn't be just running after the latest android version. It should be making the current firmware as best as it can be. How come GB and ICS be faster than JB, no one knows except samsung or god. Lol

walkermoon said:
I dont see 4.3 coming to this lovely device anytime soon. But the main point here shouldn't be just running after the latest android version. It should be making the current firmware as best as it can be. How come GB and ICS be faster than JB, no one knows except samsung or god. Lol
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Ok, the older android versions don't require so good specs, but there shouldn't be such a big difference between ics and jb. I hope the notes 2 official android 4.3 will be ported to our old note 1.
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Has it improved?

I owned a T705, it was my phone and tablet, i loved it.
However, the camera was bad, and the whole Interface was very jittery.
I understand that this device is not getting updates from Samsung, but man, i sure miss the screen real state, also beautiful.
Have lollipop custom roms reached a state where they improve over samsungs touchwiz performance?
I am considering it, alas i read that a new Tab S might be coming.
Thanks.

We have unofficial build of cm12 and its very stable. Way better than touchwiz too. Its still being worked on so its not perfect. CM11 is great on it also. Both do improve performance over touchwiz. There is also a new tab s coming soon but that always expected from samsung. Up to you

DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
We have unofficial build of cm12 and its very stable. Way better than touchwiz too. Its still being worked on so its not perfect. CM11 is great on it also. Both do improve performance over touchwiz. There is also a new tab s coming soon but that always expected from samsung. Up to you
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How is the battery life of the cm12?

This is what I got. I measured screen on times and standby times and this is what i got. This is from the T800 so you may get less because of lte and other stuff

Well, one of the problems if you own a T-705 is that under CM you will lose the phone features (CM 11 and 12 are for the T-700 only). I suggest that you try IronRom instead: definitely smoother than stock.

One rumor we heard is that the next generation flagship tablet will have a 4:3 screen ratio and a 64-bit processor, but it won't be coming until the end of year or late summer at the least. My preference is to have a 16:10 screen on my tab s.

I'd like a 4:3 personally since I do way more reading on my tablet than anything else. 16:10 is better for watching videos, but that's what I have my TV for
I don't have the money to upgrade so soon though

Thank you all for your Input.
My question is, with say, IronRom, is the performance improvement noticeable?
I found The Tab S beautiful, but very choppy overall, maybe the processor wasnt optimized for 2k, even with some custom ROMs (i used Selamba mostly back in the day) the performance of the UI was very below par, however, applications ran well enough, this led me to believe that it might have been touchwiz and not the hardware itself.
Thank you.

Satorikn said:
Thank you all for your Input.
My question is, with say, IronRom, is the performance improvement noticeable?
I found The Tab S beautiful, but very choppy overall, maybe the processor wasnt optimized for 2k, even with some custom ROMs (i used Selamba mostly back in the day) the performance of the UI was very below par, however, applications ran well enough, this led me to believe that it might have been touchwiz and not the hardware itself.
Thank you.
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Iron rom is great. No lag in touchwiz and even with the stock touchwiz launcher, its all smooth. Battery life and performance is great on it too.

DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Iron rom is great. No lag in touchwiz and even with the stock touchwiz launcher, its all smooth. Battery life and performance is great on it too.
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I wish there was a video on how it works on the user interface, i currently own a OnePlus one and have the chance to sell it, i miss the size of a tablet, but i dont want to regret getting it and find out the stutter is still there, there are rumors that it will be getting Lollipop soon too (Tab S), and maybe those optimizations will make the difference.
Thanks again.

Satorikn said:
I wish there was a video on how it works on the user interface, i currently own a OnePlus one and have the chance to sell it, i miss the size of a tablet, but i dont want to regret getting it and find out the stutter is still there, there are rumors that it will be getting Lollipop soon too (Tab S), and maybe those optimizations will make the difference.
Thanks again.
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Lollipop is coming in march/april (sammobile confirmed/estimate). I couldnt find a video on the performance

DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Lollipop is coming in march/april (sammobile confirmed/estimate). I couldnt find a video on the performance
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I was planning to get the T-705 because i dont like carrying two devices around, thats the thing with CM11/12, they dont support calls, so id have to go with IronRom with is pretty much touchwiz, and while it may have optimizations, i dont expect miracles

Satorikn said:
I owned a T705, it was my phone and tablet, i loved it.
I understand that this device is not getting updates from Samsung
Thanks.
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Wait. WHAT??

No, they are updating it, but official updates stopped at 4.4.2, now we have news that they will update it to Lollipop, but after release, there was no continuous updates as with their other devices, and for some people, it was a good sign that samsung just abandoned the device, that's what i meant.

DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Iron rom is great. No lag in touchwiz and even with the stock touchwiz launcher, its all smooth. Battery life and performance is great on it too.
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Come on guys, which part of the stock GUI or launcher is actually choppy? Where is the mythical lag? Haven't seen it myself.

Akopps said:
Come on guys, which part of the stock GUI or launcher is actually choppy? Where is the mythical lag? Haven't seen it myself.
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The part where its choppy on stock firmware is just scrolling through the launcher. It lags when just scrolling through the launcher and switching between some apps (ex clash of clans). Iron rom has none of that. Sometimes the GUI lags when you have too many apps open and it uses all the ram. Example like 16 games open all at once. It can freeze and force a reboot. GUI doesnt lag that much like the launcher. Hope this helps!

DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
The part where its choppy on stock firmware is just scrolling through the launcher. It lags when just scrolling through the launcher and switching between some apps (ex clash of clans). Iron rom has none of that. Sometimes the GUI lags when you have too many apps open and it uses all the ram. Example like 16 games open all at once. It can freeze and force a reboot. GUI doesnt lag that much like the launcher. Hope this helps!
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I am not sure which part of scrolling through launcher is supposed to give lag. I have three screens worth of application icons in the app launcher and I had no problems with those. As for having 16 games open, I don't see how that represents typical usage.

Akopps said:
I am not sure which part of scrolling through launcher is supposed to give lag. I have three screens worth of application icons in the app launcher and I had no problems with those. As for having 16 games open, I don't see how that represents typical usage.
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Lol yeah. If your a typical user, 4-6 apps open or less, it can handle it. 16 apps open would be a user who stresses the cpu and gpu.

Well, in my experience there is some lag basically everywhere with the stock ROM, not only in the launcher. Loading pages and scrolling is also slightly choppy in any browser, and also in applications that use WebView components.
I wouldn't rate this as very evident, especially because the CPU has plenty of cores, but it is there.
With IronRom + SkyHigh kernel + Nova Launcher + things get smoothened just that small bit that makes everything feel right

stopa10 said:
Well, in my experience there is some lag basically everywhere with the stock ROM, not only in the launcher. Loading pages and scrolling is also slightly choppy in any browser, and also in applications that use WebView components.
I wouldn't rate this as very evident, especially because the CPU has plenty of cores, but it is there.
With IronRom + SkyHigh kernel + Nova Launcher + things get smoothened just that small bit that makes everything feel right
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My main problem with the 705 is the poor battery life. Does IronRom improve this?

Note 4 to get s6 TouchWiz

Hi guys, thought you'd be interested in the following article
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...id-5-1-update-in-H1-2015#.VRbusagHzGc.twitter
Fingers crossed for Q2/Q3!
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I tried s6 in store. There isnt much difference with note 4 lollipop. There is some small changes could be good for note 4 too. Like some buttons moved down tabs button on browser and all buttons in gallery etc.
In performance i saw no difference even s6 had stutters on animations. And they say camera launch very fast but it was pretty same with my exynos note 4.in night mode s6 is faster it was all.
And there is no multitasking button lag. Note 4 still has initial 0.5 sec delay if its your 1st press for while but later than if you keep spamming on both it was same speed app switches was faster on note 4.
And it was heating alot.(it wasnt on charge) dunno but it didnt feel very fast it was nearly identical with my exynos note 4.

tmac31 said:
I tried s6 in store. There isnt much difference with note 4 lollipop. There is some small changes could be good for note 4 too. Like some buttons moved down tabs button on browser and all buttons in gallery etc.
In performance i saw no difference even s6 had stutters on animations. And they say camera launch very fast but it was pretty same with my exynos note 4.in night mode s6 is faster it was all.
And there is no multitasking button lag. Note 4 still has initial 0.5 sec delay if its your 1st press for while but later than if you keep spamming on both it was same speed app switches was faster on note 4.
And it was heating alot.(it wasnt on charge) dunno but it didnt feel very fast it was nearly identical with my exynos note 4.
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I guess it all depends on what apps are running already in the background. I've found on my Note 4 that a number of apps auto restart in the background which slows down the CPU performance. Sadly the only way to control apps restarting or refreshing in the background is to root and if you've just bought your phone, you're unlikely to want to root your phone and void the warranty.
I'm just hoping for a smoother feel. The new s6 TouchWiz was tested on the snapdragon chip but Samsung used their own chip like you said. This is a little worrying in respect of all previous models with snapdragon chips. Just have to wait and see I guess.
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leedsnyc said:
I guess it all depends on what apps are running already in the background. I've found on my Note 4 that a number of apps auto restart in the background which slows down the CPU performance. Sadly the only way to control apps restarting or refreshing in the background is to root and if you've just bought your phone, you're unlikely to want to root your phone and void the warranty.
I'm just hoping for a smoother feel. The new s6 TouchWiz was tested on the snapdragon chip but Samsung used their own chip like you said. This is a little worrying in respect of all previous models with snapdragon chips. Just have to wait and see I guess.
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Background apps there for s6 too you cant avoid it. I dont see any slowdowns on my exynos note 4 lollipop. Dont expect alot of difference if you dont like current lollipop on note 4. Cuz s6 and note 4 was very similar on my test.

The animations on the S6 are smoother and better looking overall I don't get how people can't see them lol...From my point of view it does look really fast and better than the current Lollipop build on our Note 4 devices.Let's hope we get the new UI it would really benefit the note 4.

Ashatar said:
The animations on the S6 are smoother and better looking overall I don't get how people can't see them lol...From my point of view it does look really fast and better than the current Lollipop build on our Note 4 devices.Let's hope we get the new UI it would really benefit the note 4.
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Well they are not, even it has animation stutters. Better looking maybe but definetly not smoother tried on like 4 different phones all had stutters generally. It could be cuz pre relaese software its ok but how do you have the idea its faster and smoother while its definetly not atm atleast not from exynos note 4.

tmac31 said:
Well they are not, even it has animation stutters. Better looking maybe but definetly not smoother tried on like 4 different phones all had stutters generally. It could be cuz pre relaese software its ok but how do you have the idea its faster and smoother while its definetly not atm atleast not from exynos note 4.
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I looked at some review of the phone and it looked smooth, I agree that I did see some small stutter but it isn't that noticeable.I am not saying that my note 4 SD isn't smooth but the S6 looks smoother to me.Also look at how the dialer opens fast as well as contacts and some other stock apps.

Ashatar said:
I looked at some review of the phone and it looked smooth as hell.I am not sating that my note 4 SD isn't smooth but the S6 looks smoother to me.
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i dont know lollipop on sd but exynos note 4 was alot smoother on kitkat. dunno how is the difference now but s6 and exynos note on lollipop is very very similar on performace atleast for now. i dunno vids i tried myself. dialer and contacts were same loads under 0.5 sec generally for both so its instant mostly

tmac31 said:
i dont know lollipop on sd but exynos note 4 was alot smoother on kitkat. dunno how is the difference now but s6 and exynos note on lollipop is very very similar on performace atleast for now. i dunno vids i tried myself. dialer and contacts were same loads under 0.5 sec generally for both so its instant mostly
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Well maybe because you have Exynos.Still, although I am satisfied with the performance of my note 4, I would like the new UI on it.

Ashatar said:
Well maybe it has something because you have Exynos.Still, although I am satisfied with the performance of my note 4, I would like the new UI on it.
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yes cuz it definetly fits better on big screen. ui looking is similar but animations abit different. it will come eventualy but they should make note 4 lolipop perfect 1st.

tmac31 said:
yes cuz it definetly fits better on big screen. ui looking is similar but animations abit different. it will come eventualy but they should make note 4 lolipop perfect 1st.
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It's not the fact that I don't like lollipop on the Note 4, clearly we have to wait for the final release of 5.0.1 or even 5.0.2. The current versions are test versions and are not final. When the full roll out comes for the Note 4, we'll get a better comparison. Also the two phones use different chips so if you've got an exynos Note 4 then you have a better comparison to the s6 in terms of being in a level playing field. The hope is that the release of 5.1 on the Note 4 in Q2/Q3 will fix or reduce the stutter when opening apps.
One particular one I find takes a while is YouTube. On the s6, it opens up a lot faster.
Watch this YouTube video. Granted it's comparison of s5 vs s6 but the Note 4 lollipop vs s6 lollipop will be up soon over the next few months once the s6 is released and the Note 4 has its lollipop release. The video shows the lag on the s5, which is almost certainly a snapdragon version, against the exynos s6.
https://youtu.be/K4__rbWOGB4
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I also noticed that the S^ has a nice lock animation...I am really hopping that those unofficial rumors are true.

leedsnyc said:
It's not the fact that I don't like lollipop on the Note 4, clearly we have to wait for the final release of 5.0.1 or even 5.0.2. The current versions are test versions and are not final. When the full roll out comes for the Note 4, we'll get a better comparison. Also the two phones use different chips so if you've got an exynos Note 4 then you have a better comparison to the s6 in terms of being in a level playing field. The hope is that the release of 5.1 on the Note 4 in Q2/Q3 will fix or reduce the stutter when opening apps.
One particular one I find takes a while is YouTube. On the s6, it opens up a lot faster.
Watch this YouTube video. Granted it's comparison of s5 vs s6 but the Note 4 lollipop vs s6 lollipop will be up soon over the next few months once the s6 is released and the Note 4 has its lollipop release. The video shows the lag on the s5, which is almost certainly a snapdragon version, against the exynos s6.
https://youtu.be/K4__rbWOGB4
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youtube is broken by itself dont really say alot. but no doubt its faster than s5 there is a huge cpu difference. yes exynos note 4 is better rival for it. my note edge didnt get lollipop yet so i cant do a fair comparison but note 4 exynos on lollipop is very smooth no stutter etc.. and i think rollout for 910c started too its almost done.
snapdragon versions could need 5.1 update which fixed alot of performance problems for nexus 6 too. but we will see.

All I want is the 5x5 for stock ...

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Whats the best ROM for the exynos Note 4?

I know the question is very generic, but I am just curious. Is there anything similar to Paranoid Android on the exynos Note 4?

No matter which one you install, it's still ****ty stock from Samsung. Buying Exynos version was my biggest mistake now I realize We have no CM/anything vanilla Android based ROM, and it doesn't seem as if we are going to get one in the near future. Galaxy Alpha with Exynos 5430 somehow got beta Resurrection Remix, we have nothing atm...

I regret buying a note 4 at the first place :/ should have opted for Nexus 6, but the battery on Nexus is messed up :/

Best ROM is stock rom, for now.

HDxDaniel said:
Best ROM is stock rom, for now.
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There are basically no other roms than slightly modified stock roms available. Personally I've been happy with Wanam's BOC5 (odexed).

wait until Note 5 comes

The one lesson I learnt was to not buy exynos variants. Running CM on my note 4 SD is simply amazing, insanely fast with no lag, running loads of apps will quickly switch between them. Compared to touchwiz (which I thought was fast), CM is like lightning.
Lesson learnt: don't buy exynos variants.

Toss3 said:
There are basically no other roms than slightly modified stock roms available. Personally I've been happy with Wanam's BOC5 (odexed).
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I have SM-N910C_WanamLite.XXU1BOC5.V2.2.NO-WIPE
it's very cool[emoji41]
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i didnt understand thers many exynos rom here why you guys says we dont have lolipop roms?
did i missed somthing?

Can't undestand why these person buy a Note 4 to install a fuc**ng Cyanogem/AOSP ROM..
You lost almost everything that makes Note 4 a Note 4. S-Pen, fingerprint reader, S-health functions, worse camera performance, functions (a lot of functions, like MultiWindow, PenWindow, Screen Write, Smart Select, etc...).
Why you guys didn't bought a Nexus 6 or Droid Turbo in the first place ?
Btw, a port of S6 ROM it's coming to N910C and things will be better. The best rom so far in my opinion is the SweetROM BOE3, but the SimplROM BOC5 it's awesome too;

willowpc said:
Can't undestand why these person buy a Note 4 to install a fuc**ng Cyanogem/AOSP ROM..
You lost almost everything that makes Note 4 a Note 4. S-Pen, fingerprint reader, S-health functions, worse camera performance, functions (a lot of functions, like MultiWindow, PenWindow, Screen Write, Smart Select, etc...).
Why you guys didn't bought a Nexus 6 or Droid Turbo in the first place ?
Btw, a port of S6 ROM it's coming to N910C and things will be better. The best rom so far in my opinion is the SweetROM BOE3, but the SimplROM BOC5 it's awesome too;
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willowpc said:
Btw, a port of S6 ROM it's coming to N910C and things will be better. The best rom so far in my opinion is the SweetROM BOE3, but the SimplROM BOC5 it's awesome too;
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Wouldn't an S6 rom also remove all of the features that make the note 4 unique? Also who's developing the port?

willowpc said:
Can't undestand why these person buy a Note 4 to install a fuc**ng Cyanogem/AOSP ROM..
You lost almost everything that makes Note 4 a Note 4. S-Pen, fingerprint reader, S-health functions, worse camera performance, functions (a lot of functions, like MultiWindow, PenWindow, Screen Write, Smart Select, etc...).
Why you guys didn't bought a Nexus 6 or Droid Turbo in the first place ?
Btw, a port of S6 ROM it's coming to N910C and things will be better. The best rom so far in my opinion is the SweetROM BOE3, but the SimplROM BOC5 it's awesome too;
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I do not use any of those function but I get better camera, a bit bigger battery and more power efficient CPU then Snapdragon 805 in Nexus,. Moreover, Note 4 is a bit smaller. At the same time I hate Touchwiz, lack of build-in permissions manager and I have to waste 1 hour after every re-flash to delete half of Samsung's apps from /system/app. Droid Turbo is not available in my country. These are reasons why I'm waiting for CM or AOSP.

willowpc said:
Can't undestand why these person buy a Note 4 to install a fuc**ng Cyanogem/AOSP ROM..
You lost almost everything that makes Note 4 a Note 4. S-Pen, fingerprint reader, S-health functions, worse camera performance, functions (a lot of functions, like MultiWindow, PenWindow, Screen Write, Smart Select, etc...).
Why you guys didn't bought a Nexus 6 or Droid Turbo in the first place ?
Btw, a port of S6 ROM it's coming to N910C and things will be better. The best rom so far in my opinion is the SweetROM BOE3, but the SimplROM BOC5 it's awesome too;
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My thoughts exactly. Perhaps Simplrom would be a better choice because it takes away all that crap but keeps all Note 4 functions intact.
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I love sweet ROM v14
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Toss3 said:
Wouldn't an S6 rom also remove all of the features that make the note 4 unique? Also who's developing the port?
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No, the touchwiz base it's the same in all devices .. he has ported the Note 4 exclusive features .. s pen and her functions works as on stock note 4..
There is a page on Facebook: Glamour ROM .. he has released a video of 17 minutes showing the rom .. and looks faster as S6 .. with almost everything working ... it's was not released yet. Small bugs and fixes to do...

willowpc said:
Can't undestand why these person buy a Note 4 to install a fuc**ng Cyanogem/AOSP ROM..
You lost almost everything that makes Note 4 a Note 4. S-Pen, fingerprint reader, S-health functions, worse camera performance, functions (a lot of functions, like MultiWindow, PenWindow, Screen Write, Smart Select, etc...).
Why you guys didn't bought a Nexus 6 or Droid Turbo in the first place ?
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I can only speak for myself, but when I buy a phone, the most important thing for me is the display. There's just no competition for the Note 4 display, Nexus 6 doesn't cut it. As far as the s-pen, that's fully functional in CM, I barely use it though. S-health apps I consider as bloatware, I really rather not have them at all. Better camera, hmm in low light the stock cam out performs snap camera, in all other circumstances I prefer snap camera over stock cam, much more versatile and picture quality is equal usually (unless low light).
I guess people buy phones for different reasons though. But yeah, the moment Google comes with a great display screen I'll buy that for sure.

Just flash the latest kitkat rom, after that: root, debloat and install xposed.
That's all.
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willowpc said:
Can't undestand why these person buy a Note 4 to install a fuc**ng Cyanogem/AOSP ROM..
You lost almost everything that makes Note 4 a Note 4. S-Pen, fingerprint reader, S-health functions, worse camera performance, functions (a lot of functions, like MultiWindow, PenWindow, Screen Write, Smart Select, etc...).
Why you guys didn't bought a Nexus 6 or Droid Turbo in the first place ?
Btw, a port of S6 ROM it's coming to N910C and things will be better. The best rom so far in my opinion is the SweetROM BOE3, but the SimplROM BOC5 it's awesome too;
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Actually the problem is that I love the hardware on the phone but in reality the performance is amazing on a stock flavor of Android

[q] aosp / touchwiz

Need an honest opinions of both sides here.
I have used touchwiz since I got my phone, but the lag is getting unbearable. That slight lag really pisses me off from time to time. I really enjoy the camera on touchwiz, but I hear that AOSP is smooth.
I'm on firekat have tried poprocks, no different in speed compared to stock in my opinion.
The battery life is good, get about 2-3 SOT with decent usage.
AOSP users, how you liking CM remix or CM?
Thanks in advance!

Did you follow mega's advice on setup in his second post of his threads? Something is wrong with your setup or your barely if that's all you get.
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imafriend123 said:
Need an honest opinions of both sides here.
I have used touchwiz since I got my phone, but the lag is getting unbearable. That slight lag really pisses me off from time to time. I really enjoy the camera on touchwiz, but I hear that AOSP is smooth.
I'm on firekat have tried poprocks, no different in speed compared to stock in my opinion.
The battery life is good, get about 2-3 SOT with decent usage.
AOSP users, how you liking CM remix or CM?
Thanks in advance!
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I used CM for a long time on my Note 4. It was super fast. But had a few issues. Like with most CM builds it takes a lot of development before it becomes really stable, and lollipop was still not there when i tried it.
Also losing the great samsung camera, the quick charge, and the sPen functions really was a bummer.
I still recomend giving it a try though, it really flies.
As for TW, I'm with you about the lag. It is like randomly, every once in a while, the phone gets stuck. I really think it has to do with all of the stuff samsung is running in the background on the phone.
To fix it I took Poprocks v14 and removed about 700mb of crapware before i installed it. (rezipped it and flashed it) Basically its as stock as TW can be while still keeping the sPen and camera feature. Its been pretty lag free, and fast. Still not as fast as AOSP, but as close as I have ever got TW.
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ShrekOpher said:
Also losing the great samsung camera, the quick charge, and the sPen functions really was a bummer.
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Uh.... You know quick charge is hardware not software right? I know my Note 4 quick charges on AOSP. Also there are apps to add the SPen functions, for the most part anyway. As far as the Camera mine seems pretty good, do you mean the specific Samsung Camera app?

DarkStarr said:
Uh.... You know quick charge is hardware not software right? I know my Note 4 quick charges on AOSP. Also there are apps to add the SPen functions, for the most part anyway. As far as the Camera mine seems pretty good, do you mean the specific Samsung Camera app?
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Quick charge is hardware AND software. It's why on a TW based ROM you can turn it on and off. AOSP chargest faster than it did on other phones, but its not nearly as fast as the quick charge allows on a TW ROM. So don't comment on stuff if you don't actually know how it works, and definitely dont be an uh.... Smartass about it.
The AOSP camera takes worse pictures than the Samsung camera. It again doesnt have the right drivers to take full advantage of the camera hardware. It also doesnt have all of the features like slow mo video, etc.
If you want an easy way to test the camera take a picture in CM with HDR activated, then take a picture in TW with HDR activated. Its a pretty stark difference, the AOSP camera is just not very good.
You can use the app "open camera" to get a bit better quality. But it still doesnt compare to the stock TW camera.
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ShrekOpher said:
Quick charge is hardware AND software. It's why on a TW based ROM you can turn it on and off. AOSP chargest faster than it did on other phones, but its not nearly as fast as the quick charge allows on a TW ROM. So don't comment on stuff if you don't actually know how it works, and definitely dont be an uh.... Smartass about it.
The AOSP camera takes worse pictures than the Samsung camera. It again doesnt have the right drivers to take full advantage of the camera hardware. It also doesnt have all of the features like slow mo video, etc.
If you want an easy way to test the camera take a picture in CM with HDR activated, then take a picture in TW with HDR activated. Its a pretty stark difference, the AOSP camera is just not very good.
You can use the app "open camera" to get a bit better quality. But it still doesnt compare to the stock TW camera.
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Sure it is. That's why my Note 4 can do 0-50% in the 30 minute rated fast charge time on AOSP. Just because you can turn it on and off on TW doesn't mean the requirements are not in hardware. Maybe you should do some more learning and you would stop being a smartass about stuff you are clueless on. That or maybe you can explain how it is possible my fast charging works perfectly on AOSP then? I mean you say it doesn't work but I can easily tell it does or charging would take far longer.
As far as the Camera, I'm not arguing that is is as good, I know it isn't. AOSP camera however is fine for me and probably most other people.

DarkStarr said:
Sure it is. That's why my Note 4 can do 0-50% in the 30 minute rated fast charge time on AOSP. Just because you can turn it on and off on TW doesn't mean the requirements are not in hardware. Maybe you should do some more learning and you would stop being a smartass about stuff you are clueless on. That or maybe you can explain how it is possible my fast charging works perfectly on AOSP then? I mean you say it doesn't work but I can easily tell it does or charging would take far longer.
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Think you need to do a bit more research. I said it charges faster. But definitely at a slower rate than TW. Its all about how much power is being allowed to enter the phones battery and what the software deams safe levels for that charge. Since AOSP is based off an open source kernel it is not using the same power input as a TW ROM on a stock kernel. On AOSP it is limited more to protect the battery and work across multiple devices. On TW it is built for this phone and this battery.
I'm done arguing though and getting a bit tired of people who know nothing about coding answering questions. Your original comment added no value to the thread and your continued participation is only further derailing the intelligent conversation. Good day sir.
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ShrekOpher said:
I used CM for a long time on my Note 4. It was super fast. But had a few issues. Like with most CM builds it takes a lot of development before it becomes really stable, and lollipop was still not there when i tried it.
Also losing the great samsung camera, the quick charge, and the sPen functions really was a bummer.
I still recomend giving it a try though, it really flies.
As for TW, I'm with you about the lag. It is like randomly, every once in a while, the phone gets stuck. I really think it has to do with all of the stuff samsung is running in the background on the phone.
To fix it I took Poprocks v14 and removed about 700mb of crapware before i installed it. (rezipped it and flashed it) Basically its as stock as TW can be while still keeping the sPen and camera feature. Its been pretty lag free, and fast. Still not as fast as AOSP, but as close as I have ever got TW.
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hey shrek mind sharing your debloated rom i want to see what you removed thats different from my own debloat

xnknown said:
hey shrek mind sharing your debloated rom i want to see what you removed thats different from my own debloat
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If anyone wants it send me a PM i can't post it on here without the original devs permission. May open up a private group on Google+ to manage it if people want it though.
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ShrekOpher said:
If anyone wants it send me a PM i can't post it on here without the original devs permission.
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Or could you possibly just post a list of what you removed?
Alternately, a list of what you've kept. One quick way: adb shell pm list packages