Hi Guys,
My note is arriving tomorrow and im pretty excited. i don't own any andriod phone and is really a noob in this.. but i plan to update from GB to ICS and have been reading/googling to do that.
Many people suggest rooting but i saw someone stating that updating can be done without rooting(Something about odin..). Now im confused. Do i really need to root in order to get updated to ICS?
i heard ICS stunner 5 is pretty good, is there any known bugs or watever features not working properly? is there anything i should look out for when updating to ICS?(i dont want to brick my phone on the same day i got this note)
Thanks a million
bensonk said:
Many people suggest rooting but i saw someone stating that updating can be done without rooting(Something about odin..). Now im confused. Do i really need to root in order to get updated to ICS?
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Rooting is absolutely not a must. You'll get your OTA stock ICS update even if unrooted.
bensonk said:
i heard ICS stunner 5 is pretty good, is there any known bugs or watever features not working properly? is there anything i should look out for when updating to ICS?(i dont want to brick my phone on the same day i got this note)
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I'd stay away from Beta ICS releases for a while if I were you. There's a lot to learn before one can cope with their maintenance, workarounds and fixings. You'll get there when you're ready.
Hope this helps.
When you flash a repack which injects SU (root) then you do not need to root your phone prior, but that will increase your custom count, which could be removed using triangle away.
Is root necessary? I say the answer is personal. It is your call at the end of the day. but once you take the plunge its wide and deep sea out there , you just keep swimming.
So as Chasmodo suggested, just make yourself comfortable with GB then root, unroot, flash a custom ROM and then take a plunge into the ICS.
I think the main thing that will decide whether you need to root or not, is whether any apps you want to use require root.
I rooted my phone so I can use Market Enabler, Adaway, Titanium backup... can't remember what else off the top of my head.
If none of the apps you want to use require root, there really isn't any reason to do so.
Android phone without root is like watching porn with screen turned off.
Rooting is not a must, it's something that you should though. As for custom ROMs, you need root, for Over The Air (OTA) updates or to flash a stock ROM through PC Odin, you don't need root.
I wouldn't advice you to actually stay away from ICS ROMs (Stunner and Imilka's CM9 especially) but yes, they're more complex to flash than say a regular GB Custom ROM. But it's all pretty easy and straightforward these days so don't worry and flash whatever you want. It's pretty hard to brick GN.
Just remember, whatever you flash, never forget to make a backup of your current system. How? You'll learn it soon.
As stated previously if you're new to droid stay with stock, ics update is coming soon. So sit back and enjoy.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA
As a noob i would strongly suggest you do NOT root..
rational as follows:
1. You will get ICS soon enough
2. If you dont root, the chances of you shooting yourself in the foot is really small.
3. You should not do things if you dont know a) what you are doing, and b) what can go wrong and c) How to get out of it
4. The number of people who know what they are doing are 1% of the people who think they know what they are doing.
5. there is a whole lot of hurt when folks in 4. above go off and do 3. above.
6. You can't spell zerglings
Look.. You will have so much fun with the Note as stock and with the soon ICS, and need to learn so much about efficient use, setup and customisation of your new toy (never mind the 50apps you download) that you have plenty of time to educate about the pitfalls & benefits yourself along the way .. before you post your..
"i think i just bricked my Note"..
thread.. and the objective is simply NOT to be one of those folks..
Completely agree with Mystic38. My first post here at XDA was 'Bought and bricked' it was my first android phone.
Later I came to know more advantages of root - not just changing fonts. lol
Reasons to consider root
1. Hide ads in angrybirds (yeah! without disabling data everytime you play it)
2. Clockwork recovery
3. Custom roms
4. Kernels
5. More secure --- PDroid, LBE Privacy
6. Scripts and tweaks
This will go on and on...
Take your time, read alot and when you are confident ROOT!
+1 for above, and then when ICS is official and a little stable throw all away and lets hope there will be miui
Thanks guys, i think you all are right, its better to stay put and learn more before jumping in and shoot myself in my foot or do something foolish heheh.
i guess im gona stick with GB until the official ICS is out.
and gona THANKS +1 everyone for the replies
u guys are awesome
same with TS here. I already spend many weeks reading regarding root It's just a matter of time... we will be the next.
Mystic38 said:
As a noob i would strongly suggest you do NOT root..
rational as follows:
1. You will get ICS soon enough
2. If you dont root, the chances of you shooting yourself in the foot is really small.
3. You should not do things if you dont know a) what you are doing, and b) what can go wrong and c) How to get out of it
4. The number of people who know what they are doing are 1% of the people who think they know what they are doing.
5. there is a whole lot of hurt when folks in 4. above go off and do 3. above.
6. You can't spell zerglings
Look.. You will have so much fun with the Note as stock and with the soon ICS, and need to learn so much about efficient use, setup and customisation of your new toy (never mind the 50apps you download) that you have plenty of time to educate about the pitfalls & benefits yourself along the way .. before you post your..
"i think i just bricked my Note"..
thread.. and the objective is simply NOT to be one of those folks..
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This way you stay a noob forever!
1. You will get CRAPPY ICS soon enough.
2. Same for if you root. Rooting isn't dangerous, flashing custom ROMs is but even that ain't dangerous if you use the right files and follow the steps.
3. Completely agree.
4. Where did you get that stat from? NOT TRUE!
6. Yeah, don't root if you can't spell that. I can't!
It's pretty hard to brick a GN IMO.
@Sujal, Don't be mean dude, 'Every phone is hard to brick if you know what you are doing'.
I consider myself advanced user, Note is not my first android phone but my first thought was not to 'play' with it like previous phones.
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@Sujal, Don't be mean dude, 'Every phone is hard to brick if you know what you are doing'.
I consider myself advanced user, Note is not my first android phone but my first thought was not to 'play' with it like previous phones.
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I'm not being mean bro.
I had a Galaxy S II before I had my note. I also never rooted it but maybe because it was stolen in 9 days. (still hurts :/)
But, everyone has different opinions. I personally feel it's worth playing with it, no matter how long you've had it for. Stock Samsung firmwares are BAD, this is the reason I suggest people to flash custom ROMs, be it GB or even ICS.
And yes, it's hard to brick any phone if you know what you're doing.
this...
Mystic38 said:
As a noob i would strongly suggest you do NOT root..
rational as follows:
1. You will get ICS soon enough
2. If you dont root, the chances of you shooting yourself in the foot is really small.
3. You should not do things if you dont know a) what you are doing, and b) what can go wrong and c) How to get out of it
4. The number of people who know what they are doing are 1% of the people who think they know what they are doing.
5. there is a whole lot of hurt when folks in 4. above go off and do 3. above.
6. You can't spell zerglings
Look.. You will have so much fun with the Note as stock and with the soon ICS, and need to learn so much about efficient use, setup and customisation of your new toy (never mind the 50apps you download) that you have plenty of time to educate about the pitfalls & benefits yourself along the way .. before you post your..
"i think i just bricked my Note"..
thread.. and the objective is simply NOT to be one of those folks..
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this!!!
nuff said..
I was rooted with ICS and went back to stock. I like stock because I don't have to spend any time working on the phone for something I don't really loose. The only thing I really like was speeding up my note but I got to say that really doesn't make much difference in everyday use. ICS should come soon and no matter what has been said, you can't get the update form Samsung if you are rooted.
deserthi said:
ICS should come soon and no matter what has been said, you can't get the update form Samsung if you are rooted.
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Oh, you can't get the update if rooted?
Wanna bet a couple of bucks that a fully functional stock ICS Rom will be posted here before you even get a whiff of OTA/Kies update?
chasmodo said:
Oh, you can't get the update if rooted?
Wanna bet a couple of bucks that a fully functional stock ICS Rom will be posted here before you even get a whiff of OTA/Kies update?
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Add couple more ;-)
BOOMED from my BOMBASTIC NOTE
abhisahara said:
Add couple more ;-)
BOOMED from my BOMBASTIC NOTE
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I was trying to say getting ics from Samsung as a stock download. One can seemingly get anything on this great site.
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Hi all Thanks to all.... Newbie here with flashing and all so i just want to get started on the right track... being doing alot of reading just wanted to know what is the safest rom right now for the captivate....
also ive downloaded bay_wolfs AIO captivate tool ...if i use this tool i dont have to go through the the whole process of installing rom manager..zip files etc..do i if i read correctly..well thanks all in advance for the responses.....
It depends on What you want. For a really bare bones rom, use precision. For a close to stock rom, use cognition. For a well themed and polished rom, use serendipity or ultimate. Cognition is the only captivate based one though.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk
yeesh - sorry but most of these get locked in 10 posts or less as these become "My ROM is better than Your ROM" epeen arguments.
With that being said.. if a ROM is posted in the Dev forum and as long as it doesn't say Cyanogen Beta or Gingerbread alpha AOSP in it? It is pretty much safe to flash.
Most of these ROM's use either a Rogers, Captivate, or i9000 Source and don't deviate other than tweaks to apps/kernels/modems/lagfixes/themes.
If you want to be safe - I would go with Cognition as a first ROM flash then go from there. It is basically "stock".
Thanks guys for the quick posts....Just a little worried about doing it for the first time i have read, watched videos, this is why im asking before taking the plunge...
i really like Bay_wolfs tool seems great for newbies has anyone used it...i think i may go with cognition is there a better version than the 3.4 what i mean is the newest version seem best or and older one...
I also flashed my first ROM the other week after lots of reading and studying. I went with Andromeda 1.0 at and have since gone to 1.1. I didn't use the tool that you're wondering about, but have downloaded it for future use. So if you do use it, let me know how it goes for you. I went with the installation instrustions on Andromeda's website, and that worked flawlessly. Once you do decide on a ROM, I'm sure that you'll be extremely happy as the performance is way better than stock. Happy flashing and good luck!
Like the other posters said, it's all about what you want and then personal preference. Once you have flashed a few you will start realizing what you do and don't like about the ROMs and what you really want in them. (My first ROM I had no idea, I was like, lets just flash because it's cool and custom and I feel like it. Then I started noticing the differences between my first ROM and stock, realizing what they can actually do with it and what they cannot. From there I figured out what I was really looking for by going custom, and starting browsing the released ROMs to find it)
In short, your first ROM is just that, the first. It wont stay there long so it doesn't really matter which one you choose. Cognition, like stated above, is a good start because it's pretty close to stock. If you want to just straight into a very custom one and screw the baby steps, try something a little more feature rich. Eventually you will get into trying different ROMs with different kernels and test out over-clocking, etc...
I would recommend for your first that you don't go with an OC ROM though, save that for when you feel more comfortable with your ability to flash and tweak things.
I have never used the tool you are talking about because I feel more comfortable doing all the .zip stuff and seeing what is actually being done to my phone, not trusting something else to do it. The tools I do use are Odin3 and One Click Root/Unroot. If you want to try flashing without that tool but aren't sure of the exact steps or why they are necessary you can PM me and I'll help you out.
Welcome to the addiction of ROM flashing! (It's harder to shake then cigarettes once you start)
You guys are great here thanks for all the tips...tonight i will be flashing my first Rom hope all goes well if i have any questions i will ask...once again thanks...
joeygutz said:
You guys are great here thanks for all the tips...tonight i will be flashing my first Rom hope all goes well if i have any questions i will ask...once again thanks...
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Was bored, sent you a PM
Jeordy thanks for all info on the Pm ... that was fantastic i sent you a pm let me know what you think.....
I've tried several. So far, out of all of them, I like Andromeda 1.2 with the Speedmod kernel. It seems to be the most functional.
best rom in March
Hi everyone,
I flashed the Cognition ROM on captivate in Jan. I do not know at this moment which one is the best since gingerbread is also here now. Can someone please help.
ask_j said:
Hi everyone,
I flashed the Cognition ROM on captivate in Jan. I do not know at this moment which one is the best since gingerbread is also here now. Can someone please help.
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Do not flash any of the Gingerbread ROMs unless you really know what you are doing. They are still unstable and you risk bricking your phone. As for stable ROMs, there's a wide variety of them, and they're all based on Android 2.2, which is really fast. There is no best ROM, and it all depends on your personal preferences. Try visiting a few of the ROM threads to check them out, and hopefully that will help you decide which one to flash.
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Do not flash any of the Gingerbread ROMs unless you really know what you are doing. They are still unstable and you risk bricking your phone. As for stable ROMs, there's a wide variety of them, and they're all based on Android 2.2, which is really fast. There is no best ROM, and it all depends on your personal preferences. Try visiting a few of the ROM threads to check them out, and hopefully that will help you decide which one to flash.
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A bit of an overstatement, but I concur on there is no best, find what works best for you
CM7
Ok well not 10 or less this time but close.
There is no best rom just best for you. I could say Rom X is the best and does everything I need it to and when you run it, you dont like it or doesnt work well with your set up.
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Right, ive had a i9000 for 5 months or so, and ever since i got it, ive found it to be slow, at times laggy. And hate alot of the crap samsung put on it.Which ive not even used.
I reckon its about time i start to make the most of my phone, but dont really know where to start, with these custom roms and rooting and what not.
I basically want it to run smoothly and possibly add a tweaks/features to it which could possibly improve it. However i remember reading somewhere, that ill lose the camera features if i install a custom rom. :l (i could be talking from my arse here)
Also i read that android 4.0 is coming or has come out. Would i be able to upgrade my phone to it ? and should i ?? If not what is the best rom to flash which will make my phone faster and smoother.
Is there anything at all to make it significantly faster, or is it limited by hardware :/
Im currently on:
kernal version 2.6.29
firmware 2.1 -update1
Which i havnt messed with since i got the phone.
Thanks, and sorry for the daft questions.
Oh dear! did you wrote 2.1? Please read basic root steps and install custom rom. I recommend you to start with Cf-root
go here :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788108
As far as 4.0, please wait.
innovat0r said:
Oh dear! did you wrote 2.1? Please read basic root steps and install custom rom. I recommend you to start with Cf-root
go here :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788108
As far as 4.0, please wait.
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Lol Is 2.1 bad ? hahaha
Sorry for sounding dim, but what have you pointed me to ?? rooting ? installing a rom ? updating kernal ?
And what is the difference between these ? are all 3 needed to get the phone working as i want it to ?
Im totally new to everything andriod so can you please be as clear as possible.
Thank you for your reply.
And sorry again for all the questions.
skweezer said:
Lol Is 2.1 bad ? hahaha
Sorry for sounding dim, but what have you pointed me to ?? rooting ? installing a rom ? updating kernal ?
And what is the difference between these ? are all 3 needed to get the phone working as i want it to ?
Im totally new to everything andriod so can you please be as clear as possible.
Thank you for your reply.
And sorry again for all the questions.
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OK, here we go...
1. First of all you need to root your device to install a custom rom or kernel. So first root your device with the above thread (cf-root).
2. Choose any rom from so many roms available all over xda. Choose only from the topic which is under your device's category, not from other device's rom,lol.
To do this you need Odin(use search)
3. Once done you will have custom rom and also custom kernel if you wish.
After these you can go for lagfix, like changing from rfs to ext4.
Best of luck.
Thanks, so after ive rooted with cf-root. do i have to install a custom rom and custom kernel, both ?
And which is considered the best rom and kernel ?
thanks
regards
Hey Skweezer,
Recommend you start with these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939752
and:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596
They will tell you about how to connect your phone to your PC (Samsung USB drivers + adb), 3 button mode (how to avoid bricking your phone), backing up important/unrecoverable data (like your EFS block!), and what (in general) needs to be done to flash custom firmware.
After that, you should be able to pretty much recover from any error (like unplugging your phone mid flash). Now you can go ahead and root your phone and start exploring the wonderful word of custom roms! As for which one is the best, that's like asking "how long is a piece of string?" Some people prefer speed and cutting edge, others value battery life and stability, some aim for the middle of the road.
Personally I've tried tegrak kernel and was really impressed with the speed improvement! However, the limited app space finally turned me back to other kernels. I found the rest to be pretty much six in one, half dozen in the other (ie all about the same)... so pick one you like and just go for it... use it for a while and if it's not to your liking, flash again
Just a quick rundown on android for you... firmware 2.1 = Eclair, 2.2 = Frozen Yoghurt, 2.3 = Gingerbread, 3.0 = Honeycomb (tablet only version of android) and 4.0 = Ice Cream Sandwich (unify android for phone/tablet/tv again). There is a HUGE performance increase from going stock 2.1 to 2.3! so even if you just upgrade to Samsung's Gingerbread release (2.3.3 I believe?) you will notice better performance. Doing lagfix, kernel tweaks, etc is just icing on top of the cake. However, you'll find once you start tweaking, you won't go back to stock
Well, easiest way of starting is installing KIES and letting it update your phone. That's the official way and you won't have to bother with details like kernels, roms, bootloaders, etc and won't void your warranty (if that's the case).
You'll probably be left with with some 2.3.x version. Might as well make a backup from your stuff before upgrading, kies sucks in a general way, but may help you with that.
From that point on, if you still want to press further into customization goodness, there are PLENTY to chose from.
There are mainly 2 kinds of roms:
- Samsung based (someone picks up a sock samsung rom and modifies it with scripts, kernels, themes, apps, etc). These are most of the ones you'll find in the development section of this forum.
- not samsung based (like Cyanogen e MIUI). These are built from Google's sources directly and totally skip samsung. Therefore, samsung apps most likely won't work here. Everything else does.
Personally i'd recommend Cyanogen 7.1 stable as your next rom. It's an extremely optimized and wildly popular rom, with plenty of options that you won't find in any stock rom. They have their own forum i recommend you to look up if you're going their way.
Whatever you do, GET AWAY FROM THAT 2.1
Cheers for alll the replies guys. Im first going to just update via kies. To an official 2.3
If im not happy with that then ill try a custom rom and rooting.
If only it was as simple as jailbreaking and iphone. lool
Right, ust updated to latest version via kies. And instantly alot better, smoother. Has some of those things bulit into the system which i always though were missing.
Ill try it for a week, and see if theres anything i need, or think is missing. Then i might go custom. But right now im happy with it on the latest official version.
Thank you guys, i think you've made me sort of like android a bit more.
Hi Guys,
I am a new user in the community as well i am a new owner of a galaxy note.I purchased it 3 days back,I have no knowledge about ANDROiD as i have been using NOKIA since last 7 years.
I have a very few simple questions on which i would like to take your EXPERT advice
1.I have updated the FIRMWARE to ICS now.Now after i have updated it i feel that the battery is draining too fast,Just wanted to know how to fix it.
2.Also i have heard that there is a bug in ICS which can brick the phone.How can i check if that bug is there in my Phone or not?
3.Also wanted to know as to how can i make sure that i get atleast 1.5 days from normal use
Please reply back guys as i am very eager to use this fone but when i see the battery backup i feel very disappointed
Please help
dilpreetpuri said:
Hi Guys,
I am a new user in the community as well i am a new owner of a galaxy note.I purchased it 3 days back,I have no knowledge about ANDROiD as i have been using NOKIA since last 7 years.
I have a very few simple questions on which i would like to take your EXPERT advice
1.I have updated the FIRMWARE to ICS now.Now after i have updated it i feel that the battery is draining too fast,Just wanted to know how to fix it.
2.Also i have heard that there is a bug in ICS which can brick the phone.How can i check if that bug is there in my Phone or not?
3.Also wanted to know as to how can i make sure that i get atleast 1.5 days from normal use
Please reply back guys as i am very eager to use this fone but when i see the battery backup i feel very disappointed
Please help
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If you are running stock ICS(which I'm sure you are) you should assume that you are affected by the bug.
Refrain from doing factory reset using the STOCK/CWM recovery as this will trigger the bug even on STOCK recovery. If you have CWM do not do a NANDROID RESTORE.
If you are rooted i suggest flashing a safe custom kernel, a good one that I can
recommend for solid battery life and balanced performance is Speedmod k3-3 just look for it on the development section.
If you don't like custom kernels and prefer stock just do not do the ones I've mentioned above. If you really need to do a factory reset do it on Gingerbread.
Regarding the battery life, there are many factors to consider. First thing that you need to check if your phone is going into deep sleep. Download cpuspy on play store and report back here so we can help you.
HOLY CRAPPPPPP
Well i have already done the FACTORY RESET 2 times but now its working fine so far
So what should i do now?????????????????????????
Also i would like to know if i can switch back to gingerbread os using Skies software?????????????????
You cant use Kies but Id recommend using ODIN because its faster and safer.
Check out dr.ketans guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997, the man is a genius.
His English isnt great, but essentially
Download ODIN
Download whichever stock rom you want (GB)
Set phone to download mode
Connect to Odin
and flash.
His instructions are a lot more detailed (maybe to much so). But if you do this, the dangerous kernel will be gone and youll be safe.
I know where you are coming from being fairly new to the android scene. Have been in it now for about six months and i would consider myself fairly literate. From what you were saying you updated your phone to the official ics version for your phone. Well... The first thing you need to do my friend is read, read, and read some more. Alot of what i know and have learned has been from researching these forums and the web. Rootgalaxynote.com is pretty good for noobs as it usually has videos showing you how to do things step by step but you should also read some of the faq's about rooting and flashing on this site. If i were in your shoes the first thing that i would do would be the following;
1.) root the device using Dr. Keetans method on this site. If you havent done this it wouuld be a good place to egt started. His method will not trigger your phones counter.
2.) I would revert the phone back to its earlier version which would be gingerbread. You can do this by looking in the stock gingerbread roms section under android development on this site. Our fellow senior members have made it fairly easy to find and after reading you should have a pretty good idea of what to do.
3.) Install a kernel that is safe for ics roms such as franco kernel or abyssnote kernel. This should be fairly easy for you to do just make sure you do tue steps exactly as they describe or else you will mess the phone up.
4.) After that you can pick out a custom ics rom which if you are looking for optimal battery consumption this would be the best way to go about it as official ics rom consumes a substantial amount more battery than the sleak, lean more refined custom roms out there. Just be carefull what you choose as some are full of bugs and features not working.
The main thing here is to cover alot of ground and do your homework. Research is key and you always want to stick with sites like xda and a few others. Xda may not be the most user friendly site out there but it contains a wealth of information and iw where the best of the best come together. Hope this helps my friend.
dilpreetpuri said:
HOLY CRAPPPPPP
Well i have already done the FACTORY RESET 2 times but now its working fine so far
So what should i do now?????????????????????????
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If you can still run it fine, then you're good. But from now on refrain from doing things on the recovery until you're on a safe kernel. Some users reported that they were able to do a factory reset to the nth time before encountering the brick. Meaning you can factory reset 999 times and get away with it and on the 1000th time, brick ur device seriously god knows when it will happen.
Just stay away from CWM or Stock recovery for now if you don't know what you're doing just to be safe.
P.S. ICS is nothing to be scared of if you know what you're doing. Do a little research about the hardbrick bug good place
to start reading about it is this POST
Well i completely agree with you mate and i need to do a lot of homework before i make any change.However since i am very new to the terminology used in ANDROID so would like to ask you if there is any website which can explain me a lil bit about these terminologies so that i know what everbody is talking about or is it that i should simply go through the forums and then join all the bits and pieces to get an idea about the terms used.
Also i would like to ask you that "ODIN" is it like another software which is used to flash the FIRMWARE
dilpreetpuri said:
Well i completely agree with you mate and i need to do a lot of homework before i make any change.However since i am very new to the terminology used in ANDROID so would like to ask you if there is any website which can explain me a lil bit about these terminologies so that i know what everbody is talking about or is it that i should simply go through the forums and then join all the bits and pieces to get an idea about the terms used.
Also i would like to ask you that "ODIN" is it like another software which is used to flash the FIRMWARE
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hmm. website... ? well you can start on this website http://developer.android.com/about/index.html and don't forget our ever loved website.. (XDA-DEV)...
Just by snooping, hanging around, munch and digest all you can and soon you'll be able to pick some neat tricks in learning android terminologies in no time at all.
ODIN (PC /Mobile) is a very neat indispensable tool for custom room makers and flashers... With this tool you can always at your disposal.. whilst jump from one custom rom to another, which ever your choice or liking. Changing ROMS is akin to Flashing.. so if you flash a ROM, you are changing your current ROM to whatever ROM you would like to have it installed on your phone.
Every custom ROM has its highlights and lowlights... pick what suits you best and your good to go after. Flashing ROMs with Gingerbread support (if your still in stock GB), assures you no brick at all... Now on the other hand, if your already in ICS(Stock) and would like to flash custom roms with iCS support.. then I do warn you to be wary of it. A lot of people have fallen and have been bitten by the hardbrick bug... Just always be extra careful in doing it.
Cheers bud!
First of all i really thank everyone for their help considering that i am a noob when it comes to android
2ndly i am alos getting an impression that Gingerbread is a better bet as of now till there is a permanent fix for the Bug and secondly i am getting an impression that GB was much better when it comes to the battery backup
Correct me if i am wrong
Alos a clarification
Stock rom means the firmware from SAMSUNG?Am i correct?
Custom rom means that it has been tweaked to avoid any known issues?Am i correct?
Also if i change from custom to stock riom does that hamper the warrenty or not?
dilpreetpuri said:
First of all i really thank everyone for their help considering that i am a noob when it comes to android
2ndly i am alos getting an impression that Gingerbread is a better bet as of now till there is a permanent fix for the Bug and secondly i am getting an impression that GB was much better when it comes to the battery backup
Correct me if i am wrong
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dilpreetpuri said:
Alos a clarification
Stock rom means the firmware from SAMSUNG?Am i correct?
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dilpreetpuri said:
Custom rom means that it has been tweaked to avoid any known issues?Am i correct?
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dilpreetpuri said:
Also if i change from custom to stock riom does that hamper the warrenty or not?
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Yes! Flash it back to Stock Rom and unroot it. You should be good to go.
You should not worry too much about the bricking bug. If you stay on stock rom and your phone gets bricked you are covered by the warranty. It is not your fault that the phone has that problem.
I also recommend that you ask some friend that has experience to help if you want to flash/root/install custom rom, given that you have little experience with android.
i have just checked in and found this link "Root Your Phone"
This means he is going back to a particular version
Right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV3PLcYbAnU
Dilpreet,
U remind me of myself 2 years back when I was equally inquisitive, enthusiastic but lacking knowledge...
First of all... There is no problem whatsoever if you remain on stock(yes u r right official) Samsung ics provided you don't do factory reset ahead.
2. U need to familiarize yourself with android terminology such as rooting, flashing custom (yes again u r right tweaked) roms, recovery mode, download mode, full wipe, Odin, directly/not directly root able roms etc etc... I am not trying to psyche you out but just giving a word of caution. Unless you know all of these terminologies well (you will get lot of reading on xda on each of this) , PLEASE DO NOT ATTEMPT ANYTHING. By anything I mean even reverting to GB. U must have updated from GB to iCS OTA (over the air) that is on device itself but this rversal won't be easy unless u fully know what u r doing... so first familiarize urself and then get into it.
3. As regards battery life on stock ics , you can use app named juice defender (available on play store) it has lot of options for battery saving. Besides check if GPS and wifi options are not switched on when not in use... some apps are battery hoggers. Check battery usage under settings ---- battery to see how its doing.
4. There are few safe ics kernels available like what has been told u before by some people in this thread... I would strongly suggest Cm9 or any cm9 based rom like asylum (btw Cm stands for cyanogenmod ) which are smooth and safe & yes extremely battery efficient too.
5. Lastly, I will pm you one apk file which will help you know whether your phone has a brick bug or not... do uninstall that application after you check it. For installing any external app (apk file) you need to go in settings ---- security --- and tick unknown sources
PS: Do click Thanks if I have been of any help mate
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda app-developers app
Nopes... rooting is gaining administrator rights over your phone. In simple terms , being able to access system folder on your phone... Beware, rooting voids warranty.. Please refer Dr. ketan's guide on rooting note on other thread... That's best
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". Lastly, I will pm you one apk file which will help you know whether your phone has a brick bug or not... do uninstall that application after you check it. For installing any external app (apk file) you need to go in settings ---- security --- and tick unknown sources:"
Thanks for the info mate
And i have already checked the article which helps you to check if your handset is affected or not and what i could understand was that we just have to install the application and then run the application and will generate a result
But what after that?
I mean how ill i come to know which files to look for which will tell us if its affected or not
I am not aware as to which all files to look for
Please help me
It will throw up the result after checking.. u need not look for anything... it will tell u if ur phone is prone to brick bug.. check it urself. Have sent u the apk file already through pm (personal message).
This will just tell you if you are really prone to this bug, nothing beyond that. If you are then you have three options:
1. Stick to stock ics rom but don't do full wipe again
2. Revert to stock GB through Odin
3. Switch to safe ics kernel (and enjoy lovely ics experience without boring Samsung touchwiz)
For the last you will have to root your phone for remaining, rooting not required.
PS: Please press Thanks button if I have helped you anyway
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Device: SGN N7000
ROM: Asylum V.15
dilpreetpuri said:
HOLY CRAPPPPPP
Well i have already done the FACTORY RESET 2 times but now its working fine so far
So what should i do now?????????????????????????
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What ROM are you on exactly??I've heard this brick issue is solved in the ROMS released last month.With CF-root 5.6 it's even safe to wipe.But no one dares to try apparently so it needs confirmation.
I am on 4.0.3
Any help guys??????????????????????
dilpreetpuri said:
HOLY CRAPPPPPP
Well i have already done the FACTORY RESET 2 times but now its working fine so far
So what should i do now?????????????????????????
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Lol...I know just how you feel, searching for answers!
i have come from a htc hd2 so i like to change roms alot.
what should i do with the galaxy note ?
i would like ICS so what are the steps ?
any help please
Have a good search round this forum and make sure you understand clearly how everything works before you decide to start flashing, I came from the HTC Desire and the Galaxy Note is a whole different ball game. Enjoy you new Galaxy Note
is the official ics update any good ?
what does rooting do ?
I personally didn't like the official ICS update, that is when I decided to flash a custom ROM.
Rooting gives you more control over your phone, lets you install apps like "Titanium Backup" that require root permissions to run.
i have the la6 kernel
im lost
watercooled223 said:
is the official ics update any good ?
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Apparently this really depends on your location. For example the one Samsung released here (France, 4 months after being announced, too) was so broken it bricked a number of terminals and was subsequently withdrawn. With no word of when a fix will come.
Apparently other areas had working systems. One would think it would just be a matter of strings to translate and a few apps to package, so it's all very puzzling to someone who isn't familiar with Android (I've been intimately familiar with Linux for more than 20 years, and Unix before that, but I still don't get it).
And then, as you'll see by browsing the forums, many people seem to have issues with ICS. Issues that (IMO) just don't seem to make much sense in a system that would have been tested for a couple days by an intern somewhere...
OTOH, many people apparently have no issues.
So as with everything on the network, I suppose YMMV, take it with a grain of salt, yada yada... void where applicable.
See if anything is reported about your proposed (if any) update. Then decide if it's worth it (maybe it is).
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what does rooting do ?
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Same as on any other terminal ? Lets you access functions that are typically "off limits". Among the most useful ones, you can now read/write anywhere. Which means you can allow/deny anything for any application. And notably block all those silly annoying bundled apps so they won't want to update any more, or, if you like, even start (a process known as freezing).
Have a look at the videos in my signature once..
For Rom official one is good but custom ones are great..
All roms are unique in their own way...the ones that stand out as totally awesome are Paranoid Android and TMT Hybrid IMUI...
Its your choice...
thanks guys
does the la6 kernel complicate things ?
watercooled223 said:
thanks guys
does the la6 kernel complicate things ?
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Yes.... Speedmod is adviced for stock ics...
its still on gingerbread at the moment
ok im now rooted and installed cwm and done a backup of the stock rom.
now i want to install the paranoid android ics rom.
im coming from the stock gingerbread GB rom
do i need to wipe first ?
all done
now rooted and running paranoid android
thanks guys for the links and the help
now that i have paranoidandroid installed am i able to try any other custom roms ?
watercooled223 said:
now that i have paranoidandroid installed am i able to try any other custom roms ?
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yes, just be careful, follow instruction to the dot, and don't take any shortcuts,
also, it's good to have tb backup, as additional security precaution
p107r0 said:
yes, just be careful, follow instruction to the dot, and don't take any shortcuts,
also, it's good to have tb backup, as additional security precaution
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does this mean that i have one of the safe kernels installed ?
sorry whats tb backup ?
i have made a backup of the original rom if thats what you mean ?
watercooled223 said:
does this mean that i have one of the safe kernels installed ?
sorry whats tb backup ?
i have made a backup of the original rom if thats what you mean ?
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1. probably, but make sure in paranoid thread,
2. I assume you have done cwm backup, which will be rather useless when switching ROMs, having tb (i.e.Titanium Backup) backup you can generally restore your apps and data between roms (except for the system ones)
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yes all backed up with cwm and tb.
watercooled223 said:
its still on gingerbread at the moment
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And that was the right thing to have for the time being, too bad you hurried on to ICS. In my opinion, when you have a new phone, you have to know it, enjoy it, love it ( ? ), installed a couple of hundred apps, and then, after being more than familiar whith it, it would be time to upgrade it, tweak it, etc., so the change could be apreciatte. It's like eating always the desert at first, withouth eating the soup and the salad.
As for rooting, if you had to ask, you probably did't need to root, but since that's already done, I'll give you a hint. There is one VERY interesting thing about rooting which anyone would find usefull. The posibility of using a Firewall. In this way, you could not only block those annoying ads (and save a little battery since the ads have to download from Internet). You can also protect your device from troyan / spy applications, which are increasingly expanding in android. For example, a simple sound board app, or a screen saver, ¿why should it use your internet connection? ¿To what ends?
Enjoy the Note, it's a hell of a phone.
I have a Tab S. Great for watching videos. Awful for everything else.
I've been thinking of modding it with Cyanogenmod. And especially to get rid of those capacitive keys on the bezel, worst design decision ever on a tablet.
What is the status of CM on the Tab S? Is it noticably faster? Better? Worth the trouble?
I'm horrible at modding tablets. Last one took me like 4 hours. What is the best distro and method?
taiwwa said:
I have a Tab S. Great for watching videos. Awful for everything else.
I've been thinking of modding it with Cyanogenmod. And especially to get rid of those capacitive keys on the bezel, worst design decision ever on a tablet.
What is the status of CM on the Tab S? Is it noticably faster? Better? Worth the trouble?
I'm horrible at modding tablets. Last one took me like 4 hours. What is the best distro and method?
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I can't speak on the how long it would take to install or anything like that, but based on the CM11 thread in the Galaxy Tab S General section, it seems like its flying and is working very well.
Development for CM is getting some progress, but I would wait till most things on it are almost bug free or at least when its stable is when I would install it. I believe you have to install the kernal and rom with twrp? Personally Im not going to install it since it deals with a custom kernal. Im fine with installing custom roms but installing custom kernals is what scares me since this is my first android tablet. As if now im on stock rooted rom (with debloated and frozen apps)and I get about 8 hours on just watching youtube.
Flashing a custom kernel is no different than flashing a custom ROM. You install a ZIP file through CWM or TWRP. The risks involved are the same. Flash the wrong file and your tablet is a shiny paperweight.
Ceep cool, guys. Flashing is no rocketscience.
Rule of thumb: as long, as you don't flash a recobery image, you always can go back to recobery (from where you can restore your nandroid) - even if you destroy your recoverypartition, you can go in donwloadmode and reflash a recovery from odin. Making a paperweight of your tab by flashing a costumrom (which inderd contains a non-sammy kernel) is quite unlikely.
So go ahead. Knox will be broken permanently - but there are quite a lot threads.
Nvertigo
nvertigo67 said:
Ceep cool, guys. Flashing is no rocketscience.
Rule of thumb: as long, as you don't flash a recobery image, you always can go back to recobery (from where you can restore your nandroid) - even if you destroy your recoverypartition, you can go in donwloadmode and reflash a recovery from odin. Making a paperweight of your tab by flashing a costumrom (which inderd contains a non-sammy kernel) is quite unlikely.
So go ahead. Knox will be broken permanently - but there are quite a lot threads.
Nvertigo
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Thanks for that! But what would happen if odin cant flash stock back on. Like some people had some error in which they needed a pit file so odin can flash a rom on a device. How would you get a pit file?
DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Thanks for that! But what would happen if odin cant flash stock back on. Like some people had some error in which they needed a pit file so odin can flash a rom on a device. How would you get a pit file?
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You are right. "quite unlikely" implies it's still possibble the some people can do something and some devices have afterwards some errors... For sure: you van brick and even hard brick devices - but it's unlikely, if you do your homework (reading, reading and reading... ). If you don't feel comfortable after research, stay away from flashing. 'Cause - again: youmare right - it is possinle to hard brick an expensive device.
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You are right. "quite unlikely" implies it's still possibble the some people can do something and some devices have afterwards some errors... For sure: you van brick and even hard brick devices - but it's unlikely, if you do your homework (reading, reading and reading... ). If you don't feel comfortable after research, stay away from flashing. 'Cause - again: youmare right - it is possinle to hard brick an expensive device.
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Im fine with flashing with twrp. Its just odin is what i stay away from. I still have my stock rooted rom backup in twrp. Its just the backup has a messed up hosts file in which google servers are blocked. So everytime i restore to my backup i have to download root broswer from the internet browser and delete the hosts file.
Waitin for multirom to be non stocknkernel usable..then illl test cm11
Ok but what about performance CM11 vs stock? CM11 is better? I hate LagWiz.. it's incredibly irritating especially i have LG G2 withCM11 that works fine and really smooth. I'm afraid of knox flag but I'm ready to risk if CM11 change my Tab S and let me forget about lags.
robson2222 said:
Ok but what about performance CM11 vs stock? CM11 is better? I hate LagWiz.. it's incredibly irritating especially i have LG G2 withCM11 that works fine and really smooth. I'm afraid of knox flag but I'm ready to risk if CM11 change my Tab S and let me forget about lags.
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I only LagWiz is anoying install Novalauncher or any other third party launcher and delete sammy Launcher with Titanium.
If you want the fullcm-expirience: go for cm. It's development, mic broken, and some other issues (hey, there is a thread where progress on this cm is discussed), but its quit stable and fast. And its true cm.
I only LagWiz is anoying install Novalauncher or any other third party launcher and delete sammy Launcher with Titanium.
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I have Nova but i need root to delete TW launcher?
I will follow cm's thread. Thanks
robson2222 said:
I have Nova but i need root to delete TW launcher?
I will follow cm's thread. Thanks
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Whatever the android related question might be - the answer is nearly always: first you need your device rooted...
Yes you need root for uninstalling system apps.
For cm you need a costum recovery, and cm comes rooted.
nvertigo67 said:
I only LagWiz is anoying install Novalauncher or any other third party launcher and delete sammy Launcher with Titanium.
If you want the fullcm-expirience: go for cm. It's development, mic broken, and some other issues (hey, there is a thread where progress on this cm is discussed), but its quit stable and fast. And its true cm.
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As far as I know the mic is working just fine.
eousphoros said:
As far as I know the mic is working just fine.
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Probably on klimtwifi and chagallwifi - but not on chagallwifi. Thats one of the main issues. The sound implementatikn seems to differ on all the 5420 devices.
BTW: Thanx for your work on kimt wifi. From my point of view it lools like crpalmer (cm picassowifi maintainer) started from your work, and I started from picassowifi... So: Thanx.
I had to rewrite a chunk of the audio primary hal and created a mixer_paths.XML from scratch. It even involved some printk love in the kernel to figure out what the kernel driver was expecting. Probably some of the toughtest (though all entertaining) part of the port for me.
If you have questions I might be able to help.
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I had to rewrite a chunk of the audio primary hal and created a mixer_paths.XML from scratch. It even involved some printk love in the kernel to figure out what the kernel driver was expecting. Probably some of the toughtest (though all entertaining) part of the port for me.
If you have questions I might be able to help.
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I come back to your offer. Few days ago I wrote: mixer_paths.xml was invented by a much more complex mind then me... Now I get to now him... At the moment a had tomslow down a little and get some distance, but I would be glad to contact you in a few days. Thank you.
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I come back to your offer. Few days ago I wrote: mixer_paths.xml was invented by a much more complex mind then me... Now I get to now him... At the moment a had tomslow down a little and get some distance, but I would be glad to contact you in a few days. Thank you.
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I totally understand the distance thing. I got lost in getting the initial port up. Probably took me close to 80 hours over the period of three weeks. I now restrict myself to checking the forums twice a week and one night a week coding on the port.
eousphoros said:
I totally understand the distance thing. I got lost in getting the initial port up. Probably took me close to 80 hours over the period of three weeks. I now restrict myself to checking the forums twice a week and one night a week coding on the port.
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It will be really great to see a cm port for the 8.4inch lte model as well.your port for the wifi was really popular.
Honestly,tab s has one of the better hardware out in the marke.but TW is quite another matter.
i dun see any cm in the forums to make me wanna trip that knox crap. and i am holding out for the xperia z3 compact tablet.the pces on that on is comparable with the tab with only the screen losing out.
I find it quite astonishing to read so often about the horrible experiences with the tab s. Maybe im living in a parallel universe, as i love the tab s, and i havent even debloated it yet.
Sure there are micro stutters, but much less then on my iPad 4. The screen is great and everything else is working flawlessly for me... even the apps are nearly on par with iOS. I wont go back,
thats for sure... just wonder whats up with all those complains.