What is it that happens at 213 DPI that triggers Tablet UI?
Why cannot we have the Tablet UI at higher DPI?
Kindly enlighten me.
anilisanil said:
What is it that happens at 213 DPI that triggers Tablet UI?
Why cannot we have the Tablet UI at higher DPI?
Kindly enlighten me.
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Just read this through. Quite a nice detailed info if you are really into it and for it
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abhisahara said:
Just read this through. Quite a nice detailed info if you are really into it and for it
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So does this mean that we can indeed make manipulate Android and get tablet UI before 213 DPI?
abhisahara said:
Just read this through. Quite a nice detailed info if you are really into it and for it
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If I understand correctly, it is up to the app to decide at what DPI the tablet interface is used. If this is true, it seems odd that every single app out there switches at 213 DPI, so I'm probably wrong!
Can't we just trick apps into thinking your DPI is lower than it is?
Note in Tablet Mod
pboesboes said:
Can't we just trick apps into thinking your DPI is lower than it is?
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You can use imilka's CyanogenMod 9 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589375 to set your Note in Tablet Mod. It works - i tried, check it out.
Depending on your ROM, you can try to use Markets Apps to change the DPI (but not App- related): LCDDensity works fine with latest GB.
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Wille_ said:
You can use imilka's CyanogenMod 9 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589375 to set your Note in Tablet Mod. It works - i tried, check it out.
Depending on your ROM, you can try to use Markets Apps to change the DPI (but not App- related): LCDDensity works fine with latest GB.
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Wille
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Do you get tablet mode at greater than 213?
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anilisanil said:
So does this mean that we can indeed make manipulate Android and get tablet UI before 213 DPI?
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If i am not wrong till now all the tablets we have are below the 213dpi mark. Aorund 160 to 180 dpi on all tablets. So lets see if the tablet ui can be achieved at higher dpi because the higher the dpi gets it will increase the size of everything on screen (apps fonts layout)and then it will be difficult to accommodate everything on the screen.
Wille_ said:
You can use imilka's CyanogenMod 9 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589375 to set your Note in Tablet Mod. It works - i tried, check it out.
Depending on your ROM, you can try to use Markets Apps to change the DPI (but not App- related): LCDDensity works fine with latest GB.
Greetings
Wille
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I'm running CM9 as well, but doesn't that tablet mode zip just set the DPI to 213? Or is it not dependent on DPI? That would be pretty sweet.
anilisanil said:
Do you get tablet mode at greater than 213?
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Sorry, did not try to change the preset dpi settings in tablet mode.
Put my phone back to phone mode so I can not try.
Greetings
Wille
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pboesboes said:
I'm running CM9 as well, but doesn't that tablet mode zip just set the DPI to 213? Or is it not dependent on DPI? That would be pretty sweet.
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I do not think so. As I understand this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1589375 you can change the dpi settings in tablet mode.
Greetings
Wille
Wille_ said:
Sorry, did not try to change the preset dpi settings in tablet mode.
Put my phone back to phone mode so I can not try.
Greetings
Wille
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I do not think so. As I understand this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1589375 you can change the dpi settings in tablet mode.
Greetings
Wille
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I took a peek inside that zip, and it looks like it just changes the build.prop file to one that has the lcd density (DPI) set to 213. So it doesn't "lock" it in tablet mode or something like that.
Also, the URL you posted is messed up.
would be great if you could trick apps into thinking your dpi is less than 213 but really not.
Would love to use evernote tablet UI without having to have such a low dpi
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There is no way to run "in tablet mode" with a DPI. 213 dpi starts the tablet UI. But, like someone else said, true tablet UI is actually 160 dpi. You wouldn't want tablet UI to be "huge" on your phone like 320 dpi (the note) is. 280 dpi is like standard phone dpi, but the Note is 320.
Just the way android is built. But, it wouldn't be tablet if it was above 213.
It can get confusing, but I think we are over analyzing this, haha.
andreww88 said:
There is no way to run "in tablet mode" with a DPI. 213 dpi starts the tablet UI. But, like someone else said, true tablet UI is actually 160 dpi. You wouldn't want tablet UI to be "huge" on your phone like 320 dpi (the note) is. 280 dpi is like standard phone dpi, but the Note is 320.
Just the way android is built. But, it wouldn't be tablet if it was above 213.
It can get confusing, but I think we are over analyzing this, haha.
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oh sure i know its not 'possible' just sometimes think the note being almost a tablet and such high screen rez some tablet ui app goodness would be sweet
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Well what I am trying to understand is that-
Say we are at 220 DPI which is not too big, but big enough to not to have a tablet UI. But at 220 DPI Note looks awesome, with things not too big or not too small.
So if all the apps try and get the DPI values from Android OS and switch their lay out accordingly, isn't it possible to fool these apps (like we do for play store) to think that the DPI is <213 so that they are laid out in tablet UI?
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Main thread here
Made some ROM-independent files
Does not change anything else than just the resolution.
Flash desired zip with recovery or RomManager, NO WIPE
For BlaY0 B ROM use thoose:
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Ah, the joy of scripting. I shall have to learn this...
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Ah, the joy of scripting. I shall have to learn this...
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me too ! scripting was very nice .
please learn us how you create this
Hz.Farbod said:
me too ! scripting was very nice .
please learn us how you create this
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I would suggest that Google is your friend
TheGrammarFreak said:
I would suggest that Google is your friend
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can you give me any links for this ?
i can't find it .
http://www.google.com
TheGrammarFreak said:
http://www.google.com
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you are my herooo ! I love you !
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Ah, the joy of scripting. I shall have to learn this...
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Just wanted to save you the job to edit and sign 60 files for each ROM upgrade
Really, You made a fantastic good work!
I just boiled it down.
TheGrammarFreak said:
http://www.google.com
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Best comment for to day!
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Just wanted to save you the job to edit and sign 60 files for each ROM upgrade
Really, You made a fantastic good work!
I just boiled it down.
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Yeah. when signing 60 zips I did think that there must be an easier way. And now I know it.
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I try
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you are my hero
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Good.
I've tried one and work like charm (I tried 130 and 135 as well)
problem is ROM manager scale incorrectly even with 'compatibility mode' turned off
I already tried to search the forum but have no luck
is there a way how to overcome this?
thx
agustrionopj said:
I've tried one and work like charm (I tried 130 and 135 as well)
problem is ROM manager scale incorrectly even with 'compatibility mode' turned off
I already tried to search the forum but have no luck
is there a way how to overcome this?
thx
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Did you reboot?
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Did you reboot?
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Yes, I did it several times but the problem still persist
edit:
I think this behaviour are not consistent. sometimes when I reboot it, it's back to normal, but when I reboot it again, It went wrong again
weird
EDIT:
I can confirm now that after killing 'whole' task using task manager (or similar app), the problem is (always) gone. still don't know the culprit though.
Excellent work here my friend. Cheers.
Great app... I'm running at 130.
May I know what is the default density of our Legend? Tried to Google before I flashed this but couldn't find any info...
Edit: I tried LCDDensity for root from market and it told me the default is 160. Change to 140 and it looks great
Maybe I'm totally noob, but what's the point of setting a LOWER LCD density if the default is 160?
Correct me if I'm wrong but the higher the density, more things can be added to the screen and it "seems" bigger.
I'll try also to see the difference
Later Edit: OK, I've checked now. Tried with 130 and a lot more info seems to fit on screen. I have some questions/issues though.
1. What 110, 120...130...160 means? For sure not DPI as was my initial understanding. Usually, the higher the DPI setting, more screen space is available. And in this case I got better screen with a lower number. Could be the value of the setting then? And lowering it it'll give you in fact a higher DPI setting? Don't miss understood me, I just want to understand some of the things not playing with them like a robot.
2. Some widgets are scaled incorrectly (Sense Analog Small Black is one of them for ex). Any way to overcome this or is by widget design and I should find a better one?
Found a fix for 2...set the columns in ADW at 5 instead of 4. Now the widget is drawn correctly and have an extra space remaining
Rapier said:
Maybe I'm totally noob, but what's the point of setting a LOWER LCD density if the default is 160?
Correct me if I'm wrong but the higher the density, more things can be added to the screen and it "seems" bigger.
I'll try also to see the difference
Later Edit: OK, I've checked now. Tried with 130 and a lot more info seems to fit on screen. I have some questions/issues though.
1. What 110, 120...130...160 means? For sure not DPI as was my initial understanding. Usually, the higher the DPI setting, more screen space is available. And in this case I got better screen with a lower number. Could be the value of the setting then? And lowering it it'll give you in fact a higher DPI setting? Don't miss understood me, I just want to understand some of the things not playing with them like a robot.
2. Some widgets are scaled incorrectly (Sense Analog Small Black is one of them for ex). Any way to overcome this or is by widget design and I should find a better one?
Found a fix for 2...set the columns in ADW at 5 instead of 4. Now the widget is drawn correctly and have an extra space remaining
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When your adding a widget you'll have the option to set the size, set the width to 5 and you're widgets you want full width can be. I had to do this with my clock/weather widget.
I set it to 140 and it looks awesome! To bad that it shrinks the keyboard too..
it doesn't work for me on BlaYo rom ... does absolutely nothing ... any ideas?
Since I use this application on my HTC Evo I thought I would give it a shot on my XOOM. Default settings it at 160 and I've accomplished getting the XOOM to 120 and STABLE. I'm not sure if anyone here has used this application but it basically adjusts your resolution on the device itself. Let me know if anyone comes around and try's it out as well. I haven't gone anything below 120 currently because I am happy of how the display looks at the moment.
Any issues with scaling, something not looking right? I haven't rooted my xoom yet, but this was one of the first things I thought of doing.
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Since I use this application on my HTC Evo I thought I would give it a shot on my XOOM. Default settings it at 160 and I've accomplished getting the XOOM to 120 and STABLE. I'm not sure if anyone here has used this application but it basically adjusts your resolution on the device itself. Let me know if anyone comes around and try's it out as well. I haven't gone anything below 120 currently because I am happy of how the display looks at the moment.
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screenshot please..how it look on desktop, gmail and gtalk?
Everything is working perfectly fine. I actually uninstalled the application because the display where you can adjust icons, etc gets smaller and you have less room to place more things on the screen. It looks great but it just doesn't seem practical to be on a tablet. If you have a rooted XOOM def. try it out and tell me what you think about it?
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Everything is working perfectly fine. I actually uninstalled the application because the display where you can adjust icons, etc gets smaller and you have less room to place more things on the screen. It looks great but it just doesn't seem practical to be on a tablet. If you have a rooted XOOM def. try it out and tell me what you think about it?
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Agree. The density of the Xoom is fairly small to begin with (160). It seems to be more fine tuned. What a difference with the first generation tablets! Those had a density of 240 and looked like the screen of a giant phone LoL
Did you also try to blow up the density? Wonder how it would look like with a density between 175 and 190
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Agree. The density of the Xoom is fairly small to begin with (160). It seems to be more fine tuned. What a difference with the first generation tablets! Those had a density of 240 and looked like the screen of a giant phone LoL
Did you also try to blow up the density? Wonder how it would look like with a density between 175 and 190
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I actually did 240 once...it pushed the tool bars off screen.
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Hi everyone!
All is in the title
Since the new version of google doc is on the market, I desesperate to turn it in tablet mode with the last kang build of ICS. I don't know why and it's an bit frustrating to have only the display reserved to a smartphone on a 7 inch tab...
I believe that dropbox have the same problem too!
Am I the only one?
Or which reason do this? Lcd density?
Thanks for your responses guys!
Hi,
http://support.google.com/docs/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1688488
I have compared the two version and you lose nothing in my opinion. Tablet version does not adds so much compared to the phone version.
I am also using the same release. Try to set the dpi to 240 in LCD density and it should work however all the other things will be large.
Thanks!
Haven't try yet 240 dpi with ICS, will test this! I hope it's not too big^^
240 dpi will get you a phone vesion of ics. Try 120
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You're right DKStalker, I tried and it's weird at 240^^, but it give a look of what looks like a phone on android 4, I can not wait of a good ICS rom on my wildfire now
With 120 dpi it works well and the new version of doc is really nice but go back on 160 because it was too small!
I hope google will fix this lack at 160 dpi in a new version soon^^
Thanks guy for your help
You're right DKStalker, I tried and it's weird at 240^^, but it give a look of what looks like a phone on android 4, I can not wait of a good ICS rom on my wildfire now
With 120 dpi it works well and the new version of doc is really nice but go back on 160 because it was too small!
I hope google will fix this lack at 160 dpi in a new version soon^^
Thanks guy for your help
PS: Sorry for the double post, I failed ^^
Any ideas? Looking around dont see much on it.
What do you mean, an issue with it ? Your question is pretty vague and we can't do too much to help you without more details.
Stock CM9 install sets your DPI at 160. You can change this at any time by modifying your build.prop and changing the setting for lcd.density to something else - 120 is another common one to use. It's all a matter of personal taste. I have come to like the 160 - it isn't TOO big, but it's big enough, and things work quite well.
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What do you mean, an issue with it ? Your question is pretty vague and we can't do too much to help you without more details.
Stock CM9 install sets your DPI at 160. You can change this at any time by modifying your build.prop and changing the setting for lcd.density to something else - 120 is another common one to use. It's all a matter of personal taste. I have come to like the 160 - it isn't TOO big, but it's big enough, and things work quite well.
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I seem to recall there being an app that lets you switch back and forth.
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I seem to recall there being an app that lets you switch back and forth.
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Changing the LCD Density requires a reboot. Please share the app that does this, as I have yet to find one.
One solution is to keep the LCD at 160, but using GO Launcher HD. You can set the icons to be smaller, and it overall looks much nicer then 120, which I find is wayyy to small.
There's a patch that you can flash available in the Alpha2 thread on Rootzwiki. As for an app, I haven't found one that just changes your lcd.density of your build.prop, but it is doable relatively easily.
I use an App from Google Play called 'DPI Changer'.
I know there are some ICS (Phone) Roms that have PAD (Per App Density) feature and you can configure how you want it, but it's something built in to the Rom. Changing the dpi now does require a reboot.
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I seem to recall there being an app that lets you switch back and forth.
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LCD Density Modder is the best app for changing the DPI of your Touchpad.
My current DPI is set to 155 its the best density I've used yet
I liked native 132 quite a lot but anything else than 160 or 120 breaks Market unfortunately.
And I'm too lazy to patch it so I'm on 160.
Things are quite big but it's okay...
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land.apfel said:
I liked native 132 quite a lot but anything else than 160 or 120 breaks Market unfortunately.
And I'm too lazy to patch it so I'm on 160.
Things are quite big but it's okay...
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LCD Density Modder Pro allows you to download a patched Play Store apk and also a modded Google Services Framework apk to solve doing compatibility issues ... no othet app offers that that I know of
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Another option for those who stay at 160 dpi is the change the font size to small in the display settings. It makes the display much better. I prefer to run at 120 with the font set to huge which is another option that works pretty well.
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I just bought a 8.9, to upgrade my venerable original galaxy tab 7 that's been working flawless for the past couple years. One of the things I love about the original galaxy tab is that its basically a big phone. I prefer that layout to a tab layout where everything is small and many elements misplaced or ridiculousness small. Changing DPI on the 8.9 really doesn't solve the problem and it makes it incompatible with app's download with Google Play and other probelms.
Basically id like to get the 8.9 working with a phone UI, not tablet UI. I read a while ago somewhere that switching between phone and tablet modes in ICS is very easy, simply editing the build.pro and removing the lcd density line altogether, and instead using the line:
ro.build.characteristics=tablet
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ro.build.characteristics=phone
I'm on a ICS build on my 8.9 but that doesn't seem to work.
Any ideas or suggestions would be super appreciated
Just saw your post I was searching for answers for this myself. Simply change your LCD density to 240. Make sure to have something like LMT Gesture installed as you loose your navbar. This worked with the latest CM9 for me.
giant22000 said:
Just saw your post I was searching for answers for this myself. Simply change your LCD density to 240. Make sure to have something like LMT Gesture installed as you loose your navbar. This worked with the latest CM9 for me.
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Thanks for the reply.. Ive set the DPI to 200.. most elements seems better though I had to do several reboots after I changed the DPI till everything worked well.. specially LauncherPro that got all messed up for the first reboots (I use it as an alternative to TouchWiz that is horrible). Ive been using Button Savior App which is decent. Compared to my Galaxy Tab 7, the 200 DPI setting I have not is still not as right. So, UR suggestion is to up it a notch to 240, correct? Ill give it a try!! Thanks again
Not sure if you experience any lag from button savior but I strongly recommend LMT. Yup, 240 is right! 240 makes it just like a big phone.
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Also be careful if your on a stock ROM as it may crash certain elements of touchwiz.
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Not sure if you experience any lag from button savior but I strongly recommend LMT. Yup, 240 is right! 240 makes it just like a big phone.
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Also be careful if your on a stock ROM as it may crash certain elements of touchwiz.
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OK. ill give it a try. I cant find LMT for Android anywhere, all searches come up as an old app fr Windows Mobile with the same name.Can you send me a link for LMT's app or market download so I can give it a try? Thanks again!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330150
Here ya go. LMT.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330150
Here ya go. LMT.
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Thank much!!!