HW acceleration for ics? - LG Optimus 2x

Hi guys, just a quick one.
What's the ods for us ever getting hw acceleration on our devices running cm9?

As soon as LG releases ICS for this phone.

I think devs are waiting for ics official release from lg, due to missing source codes. (Makes sense? )
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Okay, so not before this summer then

B4Me said:
Okay, so not before this summer then
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LG says Q2. But LG is never on time with their updates...

Here's the official announcement.
I hope they keep the timeline...

If i remeber correctly then they were 2-3 months late from given release date on the 2.3 update
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I think the more important is if it will ever be updated to ICS... Even late 2 or 3 months will be nice to receive the update. Our device goes to the 3rd update of the os and that's fantastic. As probably the last update for it, if I was in charge at LG, I would want to leave a good job done in this device, like a very well refined and stable ICS version. But it's only my opinion... For them, big companies, only matter our pockets...
Cheers

andresilva said:
I think the more important is if it will ever be updated to ICS... Even late 2 or 3 months will be nice to receive the update. Our device goes to the 3rd update of the os and that's fantastic. As probably the last update for it, if I was in charge at LG, I would want to leave a good job done in this device, like a very well refined and stable ICS version. But it's only my opinion... For them, big companies, only matter our pockets...
Cheers
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Sad but true...

stefantumi said:
If i remeber correctly then they were 2-3 months late from given release date on the 2.3 update
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From my memory, they were 7 months late with their Gingerbread promise. So I'm gearing myself up for stock ICS by Christmas 2012.

Yupii christmas gift's!!
Thank you LG. (Not.)
The best we can do is to always be happy with the wonderful work of the devs in here. And always don't forget that they do that in their free time...
Cheers

salisbury_steak said:
From my memory, they were 7 months late with their Gingerbread promise. So I'm gearing myself up for stock ICS by Christmas 2012.
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But i dont think ICS will be late cause they've to make very few changes for ICS. Only big thing is HW accelarated video playback. But as LG uses tegra2, nvidia will provide LG responsible closed source binaries. And LG has very bad reputation about software updates in the past so they wont repeat it with ICS to stay in market
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spica1234 said:
But i dont think ICS will be late cause they've to make very few changes for ICS. Only big thing is HW accelarated video playback. But as LG uses tegra2, nvidia will provide LG responsible closed source binaries. And LG has very bad reputation about software updates in the past so they wont repeat it with ICS to stay in market
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they won't care.. and they won't do it properly either
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spica1234 said:
But i dont think ICS will be late cause they've to make very few changes for ICS. Only big thing is HW accelarated video playback. But as LG uses tegra2, nvidia will provide LG responsible closed source binaries. And LG has very bad reputation about software updates in the past so they wont repeat it with ICS to stay in market
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Thats what a sane person would think, not LGs chief of software development.:beer:
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nowhere in the official statement does it say they release it in q2.
all they say is that they start updating, and that means they start to work on it and not release it.
so dont be disapointed when its not under the tree
amazing how my view of lg changed since i have a o2x...
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grognaz said:
nowhere in the official statement does it say they release it in q2.
all they say is that they start updating, and that means they start to work on it and not release it.
so dont be disapointed when its not under the tree
amazing how my view of lg changed since i have a o2x...
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I totally agree that LG will probably miss their promised update time, but it DOES say they'll release it in Q2...maybe you should read it again.
"During the second quarter of 2012 upgrades will begin for the following smartphone models: the LG Optimus LTE, Prada phone by LG 3.0, the LG Optimus 2X, the LG Optimus Sol, the LG my Touch Q and the LG Eclipse."

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I totally agree that LG will probably miss their promised update time, but it DOES say they'll release it in Q2...maybe you should read it again.
"During the second quarter of 2012 upgrades will begin for the following smartphone models: the LG Optimus LTE, Prada phone by LG 3.0, the LG Optimus 2X, the LG Optimus Sol, the LG my Touch Q and the LG Eclipse."
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Haha all it says is "upgrades will begin", so what do you think how lg will put that once q2 has passed?
It can be understood both ways and thats intended by the marketing bs so they have a excuse.
Dont trust what you want to believe
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LG optimus 2x Gingerbread Update predictions

Let us all combine all our knowledge on when the Gingerbread update will come for the Optimus 2x in this forum Hopefully we can comeout with a slightly accurate prediction date
For me, what I can predict is, since all the other Tegra 2 devices out there in the market have not received any gingerbread update and when I went to the tegra website, there were no mentions on gingerbread at all. My guess is that nvidia has to come out with the Gingerbread kernel for LG to complete the Gingerbread update, thats what probably causing the delay although LG has already completed the new LG UI experience. So all we have to wait is for Nvidia actually Not just LG
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I have a hunch, Nvidia might be skipping Gingerbread and continue with their kal el project instead. it is quite likely that we will receive the ice cream update
Some swedish website says not until autumn
new-best-gadget(dot)com/lg-optimus-dual-gingerbread-update-fall/
xenover said:
Some swedish website says not until autumn
new-best-gadget(dot)com/lg-optimus-dual-gingerbread-update-fall/
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Yeap there are 3 factors for this delay,
1. Nvidia kernel not ready
2. LG Gingerbread ROM not ready
3. applies Swedish carriers only
Wow, top notch thread.
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lws803 said:
Let us all combine all our knowledge on when the Gingerbread update will come for the Optimus 2x in this forum Hopefully we can comeout with a slightly accurate prediction date
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Our combined knowledge is zero. Pointless thread really.
Also there is 2.6.36 source for Tegra2, nVidia aren't ignoring anything.
Rusty! said:
Our combined knowledge is zero. Pointless thread really.
Also there is 2.6.36 source for Tegra2, nVidia aren't ignoring anything.
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well at least we can try gathering as much info as we can while waiting for the update to be released instead of just hoping and looking blindly at autumn to come. We should know whats causing the delays too
Lg engineers are waiting for CM7 stable...
Then they just have to tweak it a little bit and ad some bloatware.
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HerrKuk said:
Lg engineers are waiting for CM7 stable...
Then they just have to tweak it a little bit and ad some bloatware.
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looooooool ur not far from the truth. useless tards
I think it will never come, i heard the phone keeps rebooting during installing gingerbread!
stalk-r said:
I think it will never come, i heard the phone keeps rebooting during installing gingerbread!
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That would be pretty strange to be true, CM developers don't have the full source of the hardware and managed to get GB to boot...
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It's a joke.
stalk-r said:
I think it will never come, i heard the phone keeps rebooting during installing gingerbread!
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Lol
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Check this out motorola Atrix which is running on same proessor tegra 2 has Gb coming soon! Hopefully LG will be able to get a stable Gb kernel source from Nvidia too!
EDIT: hopefully in July to August instead of October! (autumn)
There is already 2.6.36 kernel source from nVidia, that isn't the problem.
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There is already 2.6.36 kernel source from nVidia, that isn't the problem.
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Hmmm then the only problem LG is well known for is instability issues like our current froyo rom, my guess is their trying to make sure the update for us has at least a 95% chance of not receiving any bugs
i still can't understand why it is taking so long, whileas cm developers give us daily updates
Optimus One spotted with official gingerbread. Which shows LG HQ is doing there job!
Also Source Code v10C rom has been released.
video??????
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Hmmm then the only problem LG is well known for is instability issues like our current froyo rom, my guess is their trying to make sure the update for us has at least a 95% chance of not receiving any bugs
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What? LG doing quality-testing?

[NEWS] Gingerbread for Optimus one shown!

Guys look! LG optimus one is getting the Gingerbread update soon, there's even a video of it in youtube, I hope LG does something for the optimus 2x. We could also predict that the Optimus 2x will have the same icons for the notification bar and most probably not lose the Overscroll glow effect! Well we could also predict that our update will come soon as it would be an outrage if the Optimus one receives the update 4 - 3 months before Optimus 2x
Source here
Considering that the O1 was launched nearly a year ago, I don't necessarily see this as an indication that O2X will get GB soon.
Usually, in the phone market, the phones that are launched later will receive the update first. for example, the HTC desire HD got the Gingerbread update whereas the HTC desire have not. Furthermore, O2X is the flagship device of LG.
Understand that O2x is the flagship etc but it could also have something to do with device compatibility, hardware constraints (as in the case of HTC Desire/HD)and of course sales volumes. I feel LG has sold way more O1s considering the lower price point and they promised GB to O1 users in Dec 2010.
That it took them 6 months to get the GB release out after declaring their intent doesn't bode very well for O2X does it?
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Understand that O2x is the flagship etc but it could also have something to do with device compatibility, hardware constraints (as in the case of HTC Desire/HD)and of course sales volumes. I feel LG has sold way more O1s considering the lower price point and they promised GB to O1 users in Dec 2010.
That it took them 6 months to get the GB release out after declaring their intent doesn't bode very well for O2X does it?
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Hmmm most probably the update for o2x will come in Autumn or will there be a change to closer date of release
Actually the LG's GB rom is kinda irrelevant, running CM7 without bugs and i don't miss stock ...
Only wish for the source of all the nvidia's stuff and LG's GB source, so that it gets even better.
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Wow optimus one takes one year to get GB. i think o2x still need long time. I hope that LG can always release new firmware and baseband to ensure there will be no bsod/reboot problem at least for stock rom
i want 2.4
Great News
Lg has released gingerbread update to Lg P500 in romania !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHdvzPFy-TE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DASNRN--to
Waiting for it here in India..!!!!!!
I think Ice cream sandwich would be better for us!
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ironman159 said:
I think Ice cream sandwich would be better for us!
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Very optimistic. We don't even have a decent version of Froyo, there are delays with GB but we want ICS!!
Yeah! xD but I dont think ICS would come so soon as the Nexus 3 is scheduled to launch in December and the Nexus always gets the first to have the latest Android firmware
Why not? By the time Gb will have been released for us, then ICS will be shown for the public and we would just starve for it imo. As far as I am concerned I would skip to Ics but it is never gonna happen. Sry for my bad English!
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Very optimistic. We don't even have a decent version of Froyo, there are delays with GB but we want ICS!!
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ironman159 said:
Why not? By the time Gb will have been released for us, then ICS will be shown for the public and we would just starve for it imo. As far as I am concerned I would skip to Ics but it is never gonna happen. Sry for my bad English!
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Then I'll guess we'll just have to use CM8 then I hope stock ICS would be good enough to sweep us off our feets
Man some dudes almost got native linux running and lg cant get that damn gb workin ,ithink the lgos software "team" is just one guy on his own whatching youporn tryin hard makin his penix work smooth without any slowdowns
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Man some dudes almost got native linux running and lg cant get that damn gb workin ,ithink the lgos software "team" is just one guy on his own whatching youporn tryin hard makin his penix work smooth without any slowdowns
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Knowing LG, even that won't work without crashes.
Community support will be needed
DD Unfortunately this is true!
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LG Android 4.0 upgrades Optimus 2X in Q2 2012

Anyone wanna guess the delay duration?
LG plans to begin upgrading its portfolio of Android handsets to Ice Cream Sandwich in the second quarter of next year, the company has just announced. Among the first phones to benefit from Android 4.0 will be the Optimus 2X, which launched as the world's first dual-core smartphone earlier this year, the recent Optimus LTE, and the upcoming Prada Phone. They'll be followed by the Optimus 3D, Optimus Black, Optimus Big, and a couple of other handsets in Q3 of 2012. Not exactly the most aggressive rollout roadmap in the world, but we'd rather see the ICS upgrade happen later than never.
Importantly, LG continues to make no mention of the American variants of these phones — such as the T-Mobile G2x or the AT&T Thrill 4G and Nitro HD — what their fate will be remains to be seen.
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via http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/26/2661466/lg-android-4-upgrade-schedule
Nice.. hopefully LG won't just keep pushing the dates further as they did for gingerbread.
Good news, screw the american versions, they need to be updated by their carriers anyway.
Just wish nvidia would released their crap so the dev community can make a decent ICS release NOAW.
Q2...yes...
BUT Q2 for LG's calendar, not the Gregorian calendar.
finally, i hope so, it wouldnt late Q3.
From LG Mobile facebook page:
During the second quarter of 2012 upgrades will begin for the following smartphone models: the LG Optimus LTE, Prada phone by LG 3.0, the LG Optimus 2X, the LG Optimus Sol, the LG my Touch Q and the LG Eclipse. These upgrades will be followed by upgrades for the following smartphone models during the third quarter of 2012: the LG Optimus 3D, the LG Optimus Black, the LG Optimus Big, the LG Optimus Q2 and the LG Optimus EX.
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http://www.facebook.com/notes/lg-mobile/ice-cream-sandwich-ics-os-upgrade-schedule/334420639902596
I wonder about delay... Maybe we should bet?
I really hope we will receive it, but till that time I think CM with ICS will be ready.
Q2 ends in late june, maybe that's when we'll get it.
LG won't release ICS on early april. That's a fact.
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tomasiqu said:
I wonder about delay... Maybe we should bet?
I really hope we will receive it, but till that time I think CM with ICS will be ready.
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I seriously doubt cm is going to release ICS for us untill its already out.
Maybe yes, maybe now. It can be the same situation as with Gingerbread. CM was provided before the official release.
The situation might be worse since we need LG for the camera and Nvidia source (or binaries that help... not 100% sure on that). An LG leaked build may help to a very limited extent. Until then it's just a waiting game.
vitaminxero said:
The situation might be worse since we need LG for the camera and Nvidia source (or binaries that help... not 100% sure on that). An LG leaked build may help to a very limited extent. Until then it's just a waiting game.
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nvidia is going to release their source soon.
Supupa said:
nvidia is going to release their source soon.
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LG announced in march 2011 that the gingerbread update will come "soon".
I guess you're just referring to the post in the nvidia forum? There's no timeframe unfortunateley.
tonydl said:
LG announced in march 2011 that the gingerbread update will come "soon".
I guess you're just referring to the post in the nvidia forum? There's no timeframe unfortunateley.
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ahahaa! good one, i know what you mean.
but a month back Nvidia officially announced that they would release their codes in the first quarter so they can be more dev friendly, and help get ics to tegra devices...
I guess by the end of nov 2012 we should hav it :0
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Wont the next version of android be announced by then?
Hello!
Yes, Jelly Bean will be most probably out by then and the next generation Google phone with it...
I am confident that the Cyanogenmod Team will be faster than LG and ICS/CM9 will be released by Q2/2012
I am also sure that LG will release its ICS build no earlier than late Q3 to Q4/2012 – but I would be very happy if I am wrong and LG can pull its stuff together and get ICS out as announced…
But all of this is of course IMHO.
that's very cute, I'll expect the ics update by December again
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One way or another we will get it, super late from LG or half a year earlier through Nvidia source and CM9.
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Supupa said:
nvidia is going to release their source soon.
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The source for their development platforms (e.g. Tegra 2's Harmony and Ventana along with whatever else they came up with.). O2X has slightly different hardware but this will be a lot better than the nothing Nvidia has provided so far. Though, given the lack of camera, even on OMAP platforms (TI released source), it looks like camera and maybe a few other things could ultimately be up to LG. Let's hope they leak something early. =P

LG to roll out ICS to some devices??

Used Google Translate, maybe someone speaking korean can shed some light?
http://translate.google.com/transla...&u=http://www.lgnewsroom.co.kr/contents/12232
Got this from lgnewsroom.co.kr
I really don't want to produce some hype out of this, but maybe our LG P990 is also targetted to be upgraded starting today?
Old news: It's about Optimus Vu and LTE. Nothing for our 2X yet...
And the sad thing is that we have not even seen a leaked ics version yet...
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In June I am not hoping for any update, but I hope that by August, I officially ICS on my phone.
Or ask too much from LG?
It'll be easier to just change phone and never buy anything from LG again.
feribalint said:
In June I am not hoping for any update, but I hope that by August, I officially ICS on my phone.
Or ask too much from LG?
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yes. you ask too much
when we get a leak of ics, we will know that the official roll out will start in aprox ~3 months. so far this aint lookin too bright
Incer said:
It'll be easier to just change phone and never buy anything from LG again.
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I would change LG to NVIDIA in the above statement, as none of the Tegra 2 phones so far (LG P990, Motorola Atrix ME-860, Samsung Galaxy R GT-I9103) have official ICS ROMs.
akyp said:
I would change LG to NVIDIA in the above statement, as none of the Tegra 2 phones so far (LG P990, Motorola Atrix ME-860, Samsung Galaxy R GT-I9103) have official ICS ROMs.
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there are tegra 2 tablets that are running ics dude. its not nvidia's fault that lg is slow. although yes, i would prefer TI omap or even exynos cpu in my next phone.
Tegra 2 tablets are a different breed than smatphones. It's still LG fault.
Rz
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xilw3r said:
there are tegra 2 tablets that are running ics dude. its not nvidia's fault that lg is slow. although yes, i would prefer TI omap or even exynos cpu in my next phone.
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Tablets have a different tegra 2 chip, they have for example neon support. LG's faults are their false promises.
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When did they originally said they would release ICS?
arkara said:
When did they originally said they would release ICS?
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at first they said Q2 2012, but surprise surprise now they say it will be Q3 2012 ( september or something)
I would say we all unite and beat all LG employes in they headquaters with they own phones!
xilw3r said:
there are tegra 2 tablets that are running ics dude. its not nvidia's fault that lg is slow. although yes, i would prefer TI omap or even exynos cpu in my next phone.
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YES TABLETS!!!! is that a phone... no it isn't.
chances that LG will ship ICS update to O2X
With the current phase manufacturers are shipping out devices I simply can't believe that LG would be putting any effort to upgrade Optimus 2X to ICS in Q3/2012.
They will have already too many devices announced/in the pipeline at Q3/2012 where they will focus their development resources that they will not definitely to sacrifice any resources to platform they will not use anymore. And that's sad & irresponsible and eventually this kind of behavior will really hurt the whole Android story. Too many manufacturers are selling stuff they will discontinue supporting while people are still on the contract with their carriers. And honestly HW on Optimus 2x could live for ages if you just look on the HW spec.

LG Quick voice....

Lg introducing quick voice for almost all optimus series with an software update hope that will have ICS update for 2x and quick voice with that.....
Source:
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_introduces_quick_voice_to_compete_with_siri_and_svoice-news-4411.php
ICS for O2x
Its already about end of Q2 and there's no sign of ICS upgrade for O2x, Quick voice is a faar call.
Anyway, it'd be cool to have assistant of our own!!
Majel is rumored to ve unveiled along with 4.1 JB in Google I/O, so we're gonna have an assistant anyway!!
lets c....but they have mentioned to provide the update so hopefully 2x will get something............
I'm more concerned about how long LG will make us wait!!
If you check out the Official Facebook Page of LGMobile, you can see people going berserk over LG's delay, most of them are O2X and G2X holders!!
I heard LG Indonesia/Singapore (forgot which 1) confirmed ICS upgrade in Q3 can can be as late as september.
JB is about to be released and we don't yet have ICS!!
Hopefully, Quick Voice will be worth waiting for!!
RknDroidFreak said:
I'm more concerned about how long LG will make us wait!!
If you check out the Official Facebook Page of LGMobile, you can see people going berserk over LG's delay, most of them are O2X and G2X holders!!
I heard LG Indonesia/Singapore (forgot which 1) confirmed ICS upgrade in Q3 can can be as late as september.
JB is about to be released and we don't yet have ICS!!
Hopefully, Quick Voice will be worth waiting for!!
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lol yeah on the fb page of lg mobile the admin doesnt even have the gut to reply to the all the hate messages from the community, just shows the company lack of cooperation with their users
RknDroidFreak said:
I'm more concerned about how long LG will make us wait!!
If you check out the Official Facebook Page of LGMobile, you can see people going berserk over LG's delay, most of them are O2X and G2X holders!!
I heard LG Indonesia/Singapore (forgot which 1) confirmed ICS upgrade in Q3 can can be as late as september.
JB is about to be released and we don't yet have ICS!!
Hopefully, Quick Voice will be worth waiting for!!
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Worth? It will be another piece of LG **** software...
I heard Quick Voice is out!! Its coming to VU n LTE II; no mention of O2X!!
jura55 said:
Worth? It will be another piece of LG **** software...
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Can't start complaining before even trying it, can we?
On every single forum post I see announcing a new LG phone, I post that the phone will be released on GB and upgraded to ICS in 2014. Personally im never buying another LG phone so I hope they realise their strategy of not giving a **** is a bad one.
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Mungulz said:
On every single forum post I see announcing a new LG phone, I post that the phone will be released on GB and upgraded to ICS in 2014. Personally im never buying another LG phone so I hope they realise their strategy of not giving a **** is a bad one.
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we feel you man
I will wait for the official siri like software from Google, it will for sure be more tested and accurate that any from samsung, LG, or other company. Much more users will use it so Google would be able to optimize it much more
Over here, the O2X is listed as to being updated in Q2 but Optimus Black in Q3. So maybe ics is coming after all.
Chris4evernoob said:
Over here, the O2X is listed as to being updated in Q2 but Optimus Black in Q3. So maybe ics is coming after all.
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This post is from December 2011 and has been posted here like a trillion times
tonyp said:
This post is from December 2011 and has been posted here like a trillion times
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I know. But people keep saying Q2 even though the post also says Q3
Chris4evernoob said:
I know. But people keep saying Q2 even though the post also says Q3
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What's your point? The P970 is a different phone and has a different ICS release date, they don't share the same ROM.
The OB has a TI OMAP 3630 chip while the 2x has a Tegra2 one - thus they need totally different drivers etc.
I'm pretty sure that we will get an ICS upgrade but I highly doubt that LG can keep the Q2 timeframe
Personally I would bet for ~November (which would be Q4, yes).
Anyways since last few days LG has stopped releasing further GB updates if they're working on ICS then its good, it will be wonderfull if LG releases ICS leaks along with most importantly ICS kernel sources.which could bring next one big missing theme HW accelaration!
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Don't worry LG will release ICS update for O2X in Q4 (December) around christmas! It will be like Christmas gift for us !

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