ok so the s off works now! so you can use this thread to talk about it. but i do have a question....
so now that we have s-off. how do you flash kernels? and recoveries? do we kust install the rom folder withought flashing the kernel that is inside the rom folder?
Marshmellow92 said:
ok so the s off works now! so you can use this thread to talk about it. but i do have a question....
so now that we have s-off. how do you flash kernels? and recoveries? do we kust install the rom folder withought flashing the kernel that is inside the rom folder?
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I believe you still have to flash the kernel separate from the rom. The only difference now would be instead of fastboot flashing the kernel you flash it through recovery.
megatronisabeast said:
I believe you still have to flash the kernel separate from the rom. The only difference now would be instead of fastboot flashing the kernel you flash it through recovery.
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And how would I do that
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I wouldn't try anything like that yet. Wait for the dev's to set everything up. That is what I did on another phone. HTC is a bit different, may be you flash only the zip file containing the rom and kernel. I do believe that on HTC most phones do allow you to flash one file instead of having to flash separate files unless you wanted a different kernel then the one provided. You would do this in recovery by flashing a zip file.
megatronisabeast said:
I wouldn't try anything like that yet. Wait for the dev's to set everything up. That is what I did on another phone. HTC is a bit different, may be you flash only the zip file containing the rom and kernel. I do believe that on HTC most phones do allow you to flash one file instead of having to flash separate files unless you wanted a different kernel then the one provided. You would do this in recovery by flashing a zip file.
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With my Inspire, I could flash a kernel alone, an entire ROMs image files separately, or an entire package containing everything in one flash...all through recovery.
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slapdaddy said:
With my Inspire, I could flash a kernel alone, an entire ROMs image files separately, or an entire package containing everything in one flash...all through recovery.
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So if there is a Rom with a kernel (boot.IMG) inside it we just go to recovery install zip and I'm good? That's all there is too it
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Marshmellow92 said:
So if there is a Rom with a kernel (boot.IMG) inside it we just go to recovery install zip and I'm good? That's all there is too it
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nope we need to add in the code of the updater-script. I would say better stay off until we have atleast one rom with the in-built kernel flashing.
i ran controlbear.exe and it booted thru hboot fastboot usb and im on my rom its still asking "waiting device" i cant even get to the wire trick....... im on freenode but the devs are out im lost hopefully xda can help me
EDIT: my bad while on fastboot usb through Hboot, I started Controlbear.exe i ran as admin CMD opens it says the title and then starting up..... waiting device....
when i flash the boot.img first i get stuck with the JuopunutBear, green arrow, and phone.... with CMD stuck on waiting device
when i reflash my roms boot.img i run ControlBear.exe only to have the same msg on CMD waiting device but my rom boots up normal....
ENvisiNKeD said:
i ran controlbear.exe and it booted thru hboot fastboot usb and im on my rom its still asking "waiting device" i cant even get to the wire trick....... im on freenode but the devs are out im lost hopefully xda can help me
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This makes no sense at all. If you're in Android OS, something went wrong.
I gave up trying to S-off today I'm super disappointed haha but I know its my fault on something
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attempted again but this time on my laptop and success on the second try!!!! i was previously using a windows XP and my laptop is a windows 7!
i'm success to S-OFF my 4G raider LTE (x710e) at the first time a try it few hours ago . everythings seems good. before S-OFF, i'm running on Holiraider Final cooked by Bananacakes, now after S-OFF, i'm little bit confused. stay with Hoilraider FInal ( this ROM excellent), or try some ICS ?.
if i decided to try ICS ROM, what should i do first? ['m already have WCXs recovery installed. do i need to run Ginger Official RUU, than Run ICS Official RUU before installed Custom ICS ROM? or i can jump over the step and Flash CUstom ICS ROM + kernel without flash RUU?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612685
[Guide] ICS for All htc holiday
This might help
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prahasta said:
i'm success to S-OFF my 4G raider LTE (x710e) at the first time a try it few hours ago . everythings seems good. before S-OFF, i'm running on Holiraider Final cooked by Bananacakes, now after S-OFF, i'm little bit confused. stay with Hoilraider FInal ( this ROM excellent), or try some ICS ?.
if i decided to try ICS ROM, what should i do first? ['m already have WCXs recovery installed. do i need to run Ginger Official RUU, than Run ICS Official RUU before installed Custom ICS ROM? or i can jump over the step and Flash CUstom ICS ROM + kernel without flash RUU?
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Easiest way is to supercid, then you can run the RUU or even just flash the Rom.zip. either will work (I did the latter since I use linux.) Then you can use any Rom. Ics needs the hboot update from the ruu
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ENvisiNKeD said:
attempted again but this time on my laptop and success on the second try!!!! i was previously using a windows XP and my laptop is a windows 7!
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When you finally got it to work did it take you to the screen with the green arrow w/o flashing the boot.img?
citsong said:
When you finally got it to work did it take you to the screen with the green arrow w/o flashing the boot.img?
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Yes it did and all I did was extract the controlbear.zip in my data folder that is used for the Vivid All In One toolkit so fastboot and adb everything is in the same directory ... Ran the .exe and everything went thru first attempt I missed the timing on the first but second I used a video I saw for another phone doing the wire trick but the timing they did definitely worked well...
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ENvisiNKeD said:
Yes it did and all I did was extract the controlbear.zip in my data folder that is used for the Vivid All In One toolkit so fastboot and adb everything is in the same directory ... Ran the .exe and everything went thru first attempt I missed the timing on the first but second I used a video I saw for another phone doing the wire trick but the timing they did definitely worked well...
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That might have been my problem.. not having it in a folder like that. Managed to get it working though.
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Easiest way is to supercid, then you can run the RUU or even just flash the Rom.zip. either will work (I did the latter since I use linux.) Then you can use any Rom. Ics needs the hboot update from the ruu
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So, I still need to flash ics ruu, which mean I must flash ginger ruu from att. Since there is no official ruu yet for raider 4g. Do I Vitter kev?
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prahasta said:
So, I still need to flash ics ruu, which mean I must flash ginger ruu from att. Since there is no official ruu yet for raider 4g. Do I Vitter kev?
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Just follow this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612685
Once you've got recovery installed and your rooted you can install any of the ICS roms. Some of them have already been updated so you don't have to flash the kernal anymore since we have s-off. Just make sure to check the instructions for the individual roms to see if you have to or not
I didn't run any ruu. Didn't relock my bootloader nothing like that. The simplest and least likely way of messing anything up I found was extract the ruu for ics. There will be a zip.called Rom.zip. I removed the hboot update itself (we don't need that one) from the zip. Then I.did fastboot reboot OEM-42. Fastboot flash zip Rom.zip.
Took a few minutes to flash. Rebooted and everything was working. The hboot I have is already higher (the one they included with juoponutbear) then the is update. But you need to get the new firmware from the ruu fo be flashed still.
Follow the guide previously posted and you should be fine tho. I just used a slightly different method to do.it myself
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id like to put ics on my vivid but it see all these different versions and kernels plus i see so many ways to install them.
all id like to have is the cleanest fastest rom with hotspot unlocked battery life would be nice too , ive tried to put a couple on it but still don't understand i guess about hboot and how to open them.
what i have is a stock all the way vivid
any help is appreciated
Read this----> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416836
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thanks but ive read that so many times,
but all these ics roms have some many different ways to do it
some ive read u can do on stock phones some have to have the bootloader unlocked
i guess i just dont understand the language , ruu, root of sd , firmware , flash , hboot all that .
i just would like to update once in awhile and learn a little
Which ics rom are you trying to use?
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I understand...
Bigtjmc said:
thanks but ive read that so many times,
but all these ics roms have some many different ways to do it
some ive read u can do on stock phones some have to have the bootloader unlocked
i guess i just dont understand the language , ruu, root of sd , firmware , flash , hboot all that .
i just would like to update once in awhile and learn a little
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As you can see there are plenty of ways to do Rom and Kernel updates. If you are the type of person that wants to easily get the Stock ICS Rom, use the RUU. RUU stands for "Rom Update Utility" and all you need to do is download the RUU (it will be a zip file with 1 EXE inside), plug your phone into your computer, extract the EXE file and Run. Everything will be automatic.
If you unlocked your bootloader, make sure to relock it. Also, the RUU states to make sure you have at least 30% battery life, but I alway charge it up all the way before I perform any update.
I hope this helps a little.
S7
Bigtjmc said:
thanks but ive read that so many times,
but all these ics roms have some many different ways to do it
some ive read u can do on stock phones some have to have the bootloader unlocked
i guess i just dont understand the language , ruu, root of sd , firmware , flash , hboot all that .
i just would like to update once in awhile and learn a little
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Best way it do it if your on att is to keep bootloader locked and run the att ruu then youll have stock ics then unlock bootloader install a recovery and flash which ever Rom you want with the kernel that belongs with the Rom
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Haha Snowdog7 beat me to it
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doktor buknasty said:
Which ics rom are you trying to use?
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I'm not sure ....lol
Snowdog7 said:
As you can see there are plenty of ways to do Rom and Kernel updates. If you are the type of person that wants to easily get the Stock ICS Rom, use the RUU. RUU stands for "Rom Update Utility" and all you need to do is download the RUU (it will be a zip file with 1 EXE inside), plug your phone into your computer, extract the EXE file and Run. Everything will be automatic.
If you unlocked your bootloader, make sure to relock it. Also, the RUU states to make sure you have at least 30% battery life, but I alway charge it up all the way before I perform any update.
I hope this helps a little.
S7
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Ok so extract the whole file to say my pc desktop then just put the exe and run files out of the whole file on the open directory of the sd right ?
Once I do that still power up in hboot ? If so what do I click in the hboot cmd ? Thanks for the help
ccb101 said:
Best way it do it if your on att is to keep bootloader locked and run the att ruu then youll have stock ics then unlock bootloader install a recovery and flash which ever Rom you want with the kernel that belongs with the Rom
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Haha Snowdog7 beat me to it
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Yes the att one would be fine I guess , bloat ware I guess don't bother me not sure even what it is ,
I can flash a new one after I've unlocked the boot loader and rooted ? If correct then just put the exe and run files on the sd as before ?
So the kernel has to match the Rom ....also if I load or flash a Rom do I need to flash the kernel too ?
I just read that again run is not a file it is what you do with exe right ?
Unzip the exe file to desktop or somewhere accessible, make sure phone has usb debugging enabled,also need to have htc sync installed....plug in phone to computer via usb cable...execute the ruu...after this has flashed the phone and rebooted/loaded etc....then if you choose to unlock the bootloader go to htcdev website, register and follow the instructions to unlock your bootloader. Once the bootloader is unlocked then you have to decide what rom you would like to use and thats about it....
WC
Bigtjmc said:
Ok so extract the whole file to say my pc desktop then just put the exe and run files out of the whole file on the open directory of the sd right ?
Once I do that still power up in hboot ? If so what do I click in the hboot cmd ? Thanks for the help
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No. Run it on your PC and follow instructions. It will update the software via a USB cable.
Wild Child said:
Unzip the exe file to desktop or somewhere accessible, make sure phone has usb debugging enabled,also need to have htc sync installed....plug in phone to computer via usb cable...execute the ruu...after this has flashed the phone and rebooted/loaded etc....then if you choose to unlock the bootloader go to htcdev website, register and follow the instructions to unlock your bootloader. Once the bootloader is unlocked then you have to decide what rom you would like to use and thats about it....
WC
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ok so if i find one i like to use then unzip them and do ea. one like this ? or does ea. rom have their own instructions?
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No. Run it on your PC and follow instructions. It will update the software via a USB cable.
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ok so just open any that i down load and just do what it says ,
No this is to get ics on your locked phone...basic instructions are provided usually from the dev
Bigtjmc said:
ok so if i find one i like to use then unzip them and do ea. one like this ? or does ea. rom have their own instructions?
ok so just open any that i down load and just do what it says ,
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Haha yeah sorry about that you are correct
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ok i finally got ics on here i will do the bootloader and root tomorrow, i did go check out the htcdev and had one question when i power up and click on the fastboot to change it to bootloader it then says connect to pc , so do i just leave it set ? it never says it just moves on to step 4
thanks for the help everyone
Don't select bootloader when you get to the white screen just select fastboot and connect your phone to USB and it should read in red USB fastboot.
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ccb101 said:
Don't select bootloader when you get to the white screen just select fastboot and connect your phone to USB and it should read in red USB fastboot.
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It dose but that's all it does how do I get the files then ?
You'll need to save the files on your PC (desktop) connect to adb and open up command prompt to flash the recovery and boot.img.
Where are the ICS roms at that work on AT&T Vivid? I couldnt find any.
ps. this is for my wifes Vivid
I managed to pull out the Bell ICS OTA from my SDCard and I am sharing it for you guys!
I hope this can fix the annoying fact that we can't use stock WiFi Tether with the ATT base!
Link here: --> OTA_HOLIDAY_ICS_35_S_BM_3.38.666.2-1.65.666.3_release_255932wpop8vtj8tts3ou3.zip <--
I also have a plain Bell ICS nandroid (RUU'ed, directly OTA'ed then Backed up) if you want me to upload it, so just say me if you'd like it and I'll push it sometime during the W/End!
HAND, ideaL
awesome thank you. Dl'ing now
Have you tried to tether on it just wanted to see if it worked on stock bell ics rom
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Please upload the RUU aswell if you could please. sine you offered
I tried to see if I can teather and its not working. I think its becouse I'm on holics Rom
zombie.raised said:
Have you tried to tether on it just wanted to see if it worked on stock bell ics rom
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it does work
raymar23 said:
Please upload the RUU aswell if you could please. sine you offered
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its not an RUU, its just a nandroid that I saved from a clean installation of ics. If someone know how to make one from the ota file, let me know
azz72 said:
I tried to see if I can teather and its not working. I think its becouse I'm on holics Rom
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holics is based off of ATT if I remember, so thats why it does not
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Is there a beats audio belt in, as in at&t build?
Question
Sorry for the dumb question, but I'm guessing this is the flashable zip by recovery same as any other ROM right?, has any one tested this already??
Thanks!
This file is the OTA update file you will get only when you have Bell's stock GB ROM already installed on the Raider. It is not a complete ROM, and if your CID is not BM___001 it will not let you update.
There is no Beat Audio in this ROM.
any luck getting this installed on a stocked rooted bell raider?
I don't really want to wipe again, buddy of mine tried by locking bootloader removing superuser but it failed.
If you are rooted, with unlocked bootloader, and SuperCID your phone, the update will not apply properly, it will even display a message saying your phone's software has been modified and stops right there.
You will probably have to start fresh again.
I managed to flash it on Roger's Raider (to use on Bell).
I was gonna write a tutorial but wasn't sure how many will actually need it the exact same way I do, here is the short version of what I did:
I was already using AT&T ICS (already have s-off, supercid, etc)
1) in fastboot, change CID to BM___001
2) in fastboot, relock bootloader
3) in fastboot, flash Bell GB RUU
4) boot into OS, update to ICS (right from "System Updates" in settings)
5) in fastboot, unlock bootloader (you will need a new unlock bin, the old one from GB didn't work for me, follow the steps at HTCDEV again)
6) in fastboot, flash custom recovery and change CID back to 11111111 if you want
7) boot into the custom recovery you just flashed, and flash supersu package
8) profit.
That's what I did anyway... let me know if anyone wants a longer version of this.
thanks but i have a stock Bell with S-ON and its just rooted. My buddie already got ICS by lock the bootloader and flashing the Bell GB RUU, but i'm looking for a way around itso i don't have to start over.
Nandroid ??
ideaLduK said:
I managed to pull out the Bell ICS OTA from my SDCard and I am sharing it for you guys!
I hope this can fix the annoying fact that we can't use stock WiFi Tether with the ATT base!
Link here: --> OTA_HOLIDAY_ICS_35_S_BM_3.38.666.2-1.65.666.3_release_255932wpop8vtj8tts3ou3.zip <--
I also have a plain Bell ICS nandroid (RUU'ed, directly OTA'ed then Backed up) if you want me to upload it, so just say me if you'd like it and I'll push it sometime during the W/End!
HAND, ideaL
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Thanks for the work. Would you be willing to upload that nandroid of the fresh ICS install so I can play with it?
Thanks in advance!
raymar23 said:
Thanks for the work. Would you be willing to upload that nandroid of the fresh ICS install so I can play with it?
Thanks in advance!
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Yeah sure give me an hour or two and ill upload it (putting all the img into a zip than uploading with crappy upstream xD
Sent from my HTC Raider 4G LTE running ICS.
EDIT : Currently being uploaded, ETA 1200 hours GMT-5
EDIT 2 : System partition download link : http://www.filefactory.com/file/26estudnmg3f/n/Stock_BM_ICS_OTA_system.ext4.tar
I only uploaded the system partition because the data is empty, recovery is not needed if you want to mod it, boot is the default kernel and cache was empty as well. Happy tweaking!
technote said:
If you are rooted, with unlocked bootloader, and SuperCID your phone, the update will not apply properly, it will even display a message saying your phone's software has been modified and stops right there.
You will probably have to start fresh again.
I managed to flash it on Roger's Raider (to use on Bell).
I was gonna write a tutorial but wasn't sure how many will actually need it the exact same way I do, here is the short version of what I did:
I was already using AT&T ICS (already have s-off, supercid, etc)
1) in fastboot, change CID to BM___001
2) in fastboot, relock bootloader
3) in fastboot, flash Bell GB RUU
4) boot into OS, update to ICS (right from "System Updates" in settings)
5) in fastboot, unlock bootloader (you will need a new unlock bin, the old one from GB didn't work for me, follow the steps at HTCDEV again)
6) in fastboot, flash custom recovery and change CID back to 11111111 if you want
7) boot into the custom recovery you just flashed, and flash supersu package
8) profit.
That's what I did anyway... let me know if anyone wants a longer version of this.
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If you are SuperCID (11111111) you dont have to put it back to BM___001. Just flash the RUU than flash the zip. That's what I did and it worked. i was also under ATT firmware.
Sent from my HTC Raider 4G LTE running ICS.
Thanks Again
ideaLduK said:
Yeah sure give me an hour or two and ill upload it (putting all the img into a zip than uploading with crappy upstream xD
Sent from my HTC Raider 4G LTE running ICS.
EDIT : Currently being uploaded, ETA 1200 hours GMT-5
EDIT 2 : System partition download link : http://www.filefactory.com/file/26estudnmg3f/n/Stock_BM_ICS_OTA_system.ext4.tar
I only uploaded the system partition because the data is empty, recovery is not needed if you want to mod it, boot is the default kernel and cache was empty as well. Happy tweaking!
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Thank you soo much. I didnt want to install it just to get a "base". The last time I tried to cook a ROM was for a SGS, and by the time I could cook anything, the seasonsed devs beat me to it 4 times overs. Developement is slow/scarese for this device so I might have a chance this time. It's gonna time me 9 hours to download the damn thing though
raymar23 said:
Thank you soo much. I didnt want to install it just to get a "base". The last time I tried to cook a ROM was for a SGS, and by the time I could cook anything, the seasonsed devs beat me to it 4 times overs. Developement is slow/scarese for this device so I might have a chance this time. It's gonna time me 9 hours to download the damn thing though
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If you release anything, please put my name in the thanks for the base !
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ideaLduK said:
If you release anything, please put my name in the thanks for the base !
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I definitely will. I'm actually ripping through it now. I think I will make a base Bell Rom with root busybox and de-odex first. then add tweaks and such. I don't get much time to "play" with it much as I work full time and have 3 young kids. but keep checking the dev forum for a new Rom ;-)
Double post
Getting ready to root my phone and flash a Rom in the couple of days...just wanna be sure I know everything before I go for it...this is my second android...my first being the infuse which did not require bootloader to be unlocked or this s off thing....
I'm just curious what s off does for the phone...Im pretty sure the unlocked bootloader just allows the phone to boot unsigned roms and stuff (correct me if I'm wrong) but I've never heard of s off...what is it ...what does it do?
Once I get more comfortable with this phone...I may begin to develop for it...
Thanks for any help with my question...any and all information you may think is useful is also appreciated...anything...I'm brand new to this phone and to HTC/sense
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mg2195 said:
Getting ready to root my phone and flash a Rom in the couple of days...just wanna be sure I know everything before I go for it...this is my second android...my first being the infuse which did not require bootloader to be unlocked or this s off thing....
I'm just curious what s off does for the phone...Im pretty sure the unlocked bootloader just allows the phone to boot unsigned roms and stuff (correct me if I'm wrong) but I've never heard of s off...what is it ...what does it do?
Once I get more comfortable with this phone...I may begin to develop for it...
Thanks for any help with my question...any and all information you may think is useful is also appreciated...anything...I'm brand new to this phone and to HTC/sense
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S-off is security off. It allows you to write to partitions you aren't able to write to with just an unlocked bootloader. This was important for users who didn't get an official ICS update from their carrier. Without an official update, they didn't have an ICS HBoot and couldn't run ICS ROMs. With s-off, you can flash custom/unsigned HBoot so ICS is available for those users. That's s-off's main purpose for this device, but has a bunch of other uses. However, s-off is not necessary unless you want ICS and don't have an official update from your carrier. You can also flash radios, splash screens, boot.img from recovery, etc, etc
homeslice976 said:
S-off is security off. It allows you to write to partitions you aren't able to write to with just an unlocked bootloader. This was important for users who didn't get an official ICS update from their carrier. Without an official update, they didn't have an ICS HBoot and couldn't run ICS ROMs. With s-off, you can flash custom/unsigned HBoot so ICS is available for those users. That's s-off's main purpose for this device, but has a bunch of other uses. However, s-off is not necessary unless you want ICS and don't have an official update from your carrier. You can also flash radios, splash screens, boot.img from recovery, etc, etc
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Ok, thanks for the info...I was looking at one of the stickies and it said it wasn't needed but didn't say what it did...so I guess ill need it to flash a recovery
Again thanks for the info
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mg2195 said:
Ok, thanks for the info...I was looking at one of the stickies and it said it wasn't needed but didn't say what it did...so I guess ill need it to flash a recovery
Again thanks for the info
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No. To flash a custom recovery all you need is an unlocked bootloader. Recovery is one of the partitions you can fastboot flash without s-off or an eng bootloader
homeslice976 said:
No. To flash a custom recovery all you need is an unlocked bootloader. Recovery is one of the partitions you can fastboot flash without s-off or an eng bootloader
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Ok then...so if I'm just gonna be flashing roms than s off isn't neccessary? Sorry for all the questions...just wanna do everything right...
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mg2195 said:
Ok then...so if I'm just gonna be flashing roms than s off isn't neccessary? Sorry for all the questions...just wanna do everything right...
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I see you have ATT, which means you have a Vivid, so S-Off is NOT necessary for flashing ROMs. If the Vivid came with ICS, you're all set to unlock bootloader, flash custom recovery, flash boot.img, and flash ROM. If your Vivid currently has GB, you'll want to run an ICS RUU first (relock bootloader first if it is currently unlocked), then unlock, etc
s-off necesary for kernel?
homeslice976 said:
I see you have ATT, which means you have a Vivid, so S-Off is NOT necessary for flashing ROMs. If the Vivid came with ICS, you're all set to unlock bootloader, flash custom recovery, flash boot.img, and flash ROM. If your Vivid currently has GB, you'll want to run an ICS RUU first (relock bootloader first if it is currently unlocked), then unlock, etc
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i'm on at&t with ics update , rooted unlocked bootloader
i hav a confusion...is s-off necesary for flashing kernel?i want to flash holicakes kernel but i cant find if s-off is necessary for kernel
thanks for any future help
nikhilpshankar said:
i'm on at&t with ics update , rooted unlocked bootloader
i hav a confusion...is s-off necesary for flashing kernel?i want to flash holicakes kernel but i cant find if s-off is necessary for kernel
thanks for any future help
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Not necessary but makes it easier. There are other options: (boot.img is usually found in the rom zip file.)
1. Fastboot boot recovery.img - command from terminal/CMD
2. Fastboot flash boot boot.img - command from terminal/CMD
3. Flashimage GUI (app is in Themes and Apps section)
Any of these options will work.
nikhilpshankar said:
i'm on at&t with ics update , rooted unlocked bootloader
i hav a confusion...is s-off necesary for flashing kernel?i want to flash holicakes kernel but i cant find if s-off is necessary for kernel
thanks for any future help
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DO NOT FLASH HOLICAKES KERNEL... ITS FOR GINGERBREAD
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Wow...back in my noobie HTC days lol haha
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I laughed when I saw this thread pop back up too
Im coming from a HTC One X, where is was needed to manually flash the boot.img though fastboot. If i understand correctly, this isn't needed anymore on the HTC One? No matter what rom or kernel I flash?
staffordniko said:
Im coming from a HTC One X, where is was needed to manually flash the boot.img though fastboot. If i understand correctly, this isn't needed anymore on the HTC One? No matter what rom or kernel I flash?
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You guessed right, HTC decided that unlocking bootloader should work pretty much like on a Nexus device, so no S-OFF needed or other things like that.
Other proof here.
Yep just flash the rom or mod in recovery and that's it
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Thats very nice! A lot more easy flashing en getting back to old nandroid. So nandroid backup also back ups the boot.img
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Two simple questions: When do I need S-OFF and when do I know?
I want to test some of the custom roms on xda, and I have unlocked the bootloader, flashed cwm and are rooted.
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You don't need S OFF to use ROMS. So long as you have CWM you can flash any ROM. But you have to flash the Boot.IMG separately as well.
E.g.
- Download your ROM
- Double click on the ZIP and take the Boot.IMG out. Just get a copy of it. Doesn't matter if it's still in the ZIP. You just need a copy of it.
- Flash the ROM
- Go back in Fastboot and flash the Boot.IMG
- To do that put the IMG in your Fastboot folder or any folder than recognises ADB (Fastboot mode)
- Open CMD and navigate to the Fastboot folder in which the boot.img is too
- Type with CMD : Fastboot flash boot boot.img
- It should say complete or OK
- Restart phone and enjoy
S OFF is mainly just for users who can't be bothered to do that. And to find out if you have S OFF you go in Fastboot mode and it will say up top if it is or not (S-ON)
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But why not just get s off and flash roms normally? What's the reason for not get s off?
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VistaX said:
But why not just get s off and flash roms normally? What's the reason for not get s off?
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you don't need S-off unless you want to change your phone's CID or downgrade the HBoot
if you don't know what these things are you don't need it.
You also don't need it to flash a kernel like the 2nd post suggested.
I've flashed about 10 different roms and not had to that with any of them. Just flash the zip in recovery. I'm new to android a few months so maybe things have changed recently?
S-off is if you want change bootloaders, cid, etc. Once you have s-off it's easy to brick your device if you're not careful. It's not needed for flashing roms though.
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Ah, then I'm gonna skip S-OFF. I've flashed many roms with mye SGS3 and LGO2X, but I think maybe HTC is a little more tricky to handle.
VistaX said:
Ah, then I'm gonna skip S-OFF. I've flashed many roms with mye SGS3 and LGO2X, but I think maybe HTC is a little moretricky to handle.
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Yes they are definitely!
So for the "common flasher" it's not necessary to be S-ON?
VistaX said:
So for the "common flasher" it's not necessary to be S-ON?
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If all you plan to do is use custom ROMs then there's no need to be S-OFF. All you'll really need is unlocked bootloader and custom recovery (TWRP or CWM).
S-off allows you to change your phone's firmware regardless of what carrier you have or model ID. So you can get the most recent firmware even if your carrier hasn't pushed out an OTA. That matters to some people but not all.
It also allows you to flash a custom hboot to remove the red text on your splash screen. This is wholly an OCD thing--there's no good reason to do it otherwise.
S-off essentially means you're taking full responsibility for your phone and can't rely on HTC's security checks to prevent bricks.