[Q] what is s-off - HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity

Getting ready to root my phone and flash a Rom in the couple of days...just wanna be sure I know everything before I go for it...this is my second android...my first being the infuse which did not require bootloader to be unlocked or this s off thing....
I'm just curious what s off does for the phone...Im pretty sure the unlocked bootloader just allows the phone to boot unsigned roms and stuff (correct me if I'm wrong) but I've never heard of s off...what is it ...what does it do?
Once I get more comfortable with this phone...I may begin to develop for it...
Thanks for any help with my question...any and all information you may think is useful is also appreciated...anything...I'm brand new to this phone and to HTC/sense
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mg2195 said:
Getting ready to root my phone and flash a Rom in the couple of days...just wanna be sure I know everything before I go for it...this is my second android...my first being the infuse which did not require bootloader to be unlocked or this s off thing....
I'm just curious what s off does for the phone...Im pretty sure the unlocked bootloader just allows the phone to boot unsigned roms and stuff (correct me if I'm wrong) but I've never heard of s off...what is it ...what does it do?
Once I get more comfortable with this phone...I may begin to develop for it...
Thanks for any help with my question...any and all information you may think is useful is also appreciated...anything...I'm brand new to this phone and to HTC/sense
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S-off is security off. It allows you to write to partitions you aren't able to write to with just an unlocked bootloader. This was important for users who didn't get an official ICS update from their carrier. Without an official update, they didn't have an ICS HBoot and couldn't run ICS ROMs. With s-off, you can flash custom/unsigned HBoot so ICS is available for those users. That's s-off's main purpose for this device, but has a bunch of other uses. However, s-off is not necessary unless you want ICS and don't have an official update from your carrier. You can also flash radios, splash screens, boot.img from recovery, etc, etc

homeslice976 said:
S-off is security off. It allows you to write to partitions you aren't able to write to with just an unlocked bootloader. This was important for users who didn't get an official ICS update from their carrier. Without an official update, they didn't have an ICS HBoot and couldn't run ICS ROMs. With s-off, you can flash custom/unsigned HBoot so ICS is available for those users. That's s-off's main purpose for this device, but has a bunch of other uses. However, s-off is not necessary unless you want ICS and don't have an official update from your carrier. You can also flash radios, splash screens, boot.img from recovery, etc, etc
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Ok, thanks for the info...I was looking at one of the stickies and it said it wasn't needed but didn't say what it did...so I guess ill need it to flash a recovery
Again thanks for the info
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mg2195 said:
Ok, thanks for the info...I was looking at one of the stickies and it said it wasn't needed but didn't say what it did...so I guess ill need it to flash a recovery
Again thanks for the info
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No. To flash a custom recovery all you need is an unlocked bootloader. Recovery is one of the partitions you can fastboot flash without s-off or an eng bootloader

homeslice976 said:
No. To flash a custom recovery all you need is an unlocked bootloader. Recovery is one of the partitions you can fastboot flash without s-off or an eng bootloader
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Ok then...so if I'm just gonna be flashing roms than s off isn't neccessary? Sorry for all the questions...just wanna do everything right...
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mg2195 said:
Ok then...so if I'm just gonna be flashing roms than s off isn't neccessary? Sorry for all the questions...just wanna do everything right...
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I see you have ATT, which means you have a Vivid, so S-Off is NOT necessary for flashing ROMs. If the Vivid came with ICS, you're all set to unlock bootloader, flash custom recovery, flash boot.img, and flash ROM. If your Vivid currently has GB, you'll want to run an ICS RUU first (relock bootloader first if it is currently unlocked), then unlock, etc

s-off necesary for kernel?
homeslice976 said:
I see you have ATT, which means you have a Vivid, so S-Off is NOT necessary for flashing ROMs. If the Vivid came with ICS, you're all set to unlock bootloader, flash custom recovery, flash boot.img, and flash ROM. If your Vivid currently has GB, you'll want to run an ICS RUU first (relock bootloader first if it is currently unlocked), then unlock, etc
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i'm on at&t with ics update , rooted unlocked bootloader
i hav a confusion...is s-off necesary for flashing kernel?i want to flash holicakes kernel but i cant find if s-off is necessary for kernel
thanks for any future help

nikhilpshankar said:
i'm on at&t with ics update , rooted unlocked bootloader
i hav a confusion...is s-off necesary for flashing kernel?i want to flash holicakes kernel but i cant find if s-off is necessary for kernel
thanks for any future help
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Not necessary but makes it easier. There are other options: (boot.img is usually found in the rom zip file.)
1. Fastboot boot recovery.img - command from terminal/CMD
2. Fastboot flash boot boot.img - command from terminal/CMD
3. Flashimage GUI (app is in Themes and Apps section)
Any of these options will work.

nikhilpshankar said:
i'm on at&t with ics update , rooted unlocked bootloader
i hav a confusion...is s-off necesary for flashing kernel?i want to flash holicakes kernel but i cant find if s-off is necessary for kernel
thanks for any future help
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DO NOT FLASH HOLICAKES KERNEL... ITS FOR GINGERBREAD
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Wow...back in my noobie HTC days lol haha
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I laughed when I saw this thread pop back up too

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Best Way To Root Incredible S?

Ok, so i have the Incredible S. I Unlocked its bootloader using this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337105 but i had to relock it to send it for warranty. When i get it back, i will unlock it again, nut because the phone was on hboot 1.16, i had to flash the boot.img each time i installed a new rom. But, if i use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697 (which, by the wayy, is how i put my phone's bootloader to stock) will i be able to use the CWM app to install/update roms?
If not, is there a better way to root the phone?
Also, could anyone explain how custom radios and kernels are better than stock?
Thanks
TaLEntZ96 said:
Ok, so i have the Incredible S. I Unlocked its bootloader using this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337105 but i had to relock it to send it for warranty. When i get it back, i will unlock it again, nut because the phone was on hboot 1.16, i had to flash the boot.img each time i installed a new rom. But, if i use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697 (which, by the wayy, is how i put my phone's bootloader to stock) will i be able to use the CWM app to install/update roms?
If not, is there a better way to root the phone?
Also, could anyone explain how custom radios and kernels are better than stock?
Thanks
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Yes if you use the downgrade tool to get hboot 1.13 and use Revolutionary to S-Off then you will be able to use CWM to flash custom ROMs.
There is no such thing as a custom radio, but each time HTC upgrades a ROM, the RUU may contain a new radio which has improvements.
TaLEntZ96 said:
Ok, so i have the Incredible S. I Unlocked its bootloader using this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337105 but i had to relock it to send it for warranty. When i get it back, i will unlock it again, nut because the phone was on hboot 1.16, i had to flash the boot.img each time i installed a new rom. But, if i use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697 (which, by the wayy, is how i put my phone's bootloader to stock) will i be able to use the CWM app to install/update roms?
If not, is there a better way to root the phone?
Also, could anyone explain how custom radios and kernels are better than stock?
Thanks
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TaLEntZ96 said:
Ok, so i have the Incredible S. I Unlocked its bootloader using this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337105 but i had to relock it to send it for warranty. When i get it back, i will unlock it again, nut because the phone was on hboot 1.16, i had to flash the boot.img each time i installed a new rom. But, if i use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697 (which, by the wayy, is how i put my phone's bootloader to stock) will i be able to use the CWM app to install/update roms?
If not, is there a better way to root the phone?
Also, could anyone explain how custom radios and kernels are better than stock?
Thanks
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Dude u need to downgrade ur hboot in oder to gain soff.. they a guide on how to do it..it works for me n should work4 u 2 ..
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McIero said:
Dude u need to downgrade ur hboot in oder to gain soff.. they a guide on how to do it..it works for me n should work4 u 2 ..
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I know! the 2nd link is the downgrade!!!
TaLEntZ96 said:
Ok, so i have the Incredible S. I Unlocked its bootloader using this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337105 but i had to relock it to send it for warranty. When i get it back, i will unlock it again, nut because the phone was on hboot 1.16, i had to flash the boot.img each time i installed a new rom. But, if i use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697 (which, by the wayy, is how i put my phone's bootloader to stock) will i be able to use the CWM app to install/update roms?
If not, is there a better way to root the phone?
Also, could anyone explain how custom radios and kernels are better than stock?
Thanks
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Yes.......

[Q] Install AT&T OTA Update with unlocked bootloader?

So I'm wanting to install the OTA ICS update but it fails and I get the little red exclamation point when I try.. I am assuming this is because my bootloader is unlocked? I've been trying to find a way to install it but the only one I found was one requiring S-OFF which I don't have..
So basically my question is can I install ICS on my rooted unlocked bootloader?
If absolutely necessary I can always lock it, install, then re unlock it but that's such a pain.. AT&T gets on my nerves sometimes..
I am almost positive that you have to do the re-lock process unless somehow they found another way. You should probably read around next time. Most likely, someone has already asked your question.
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I've read quite a few threads but haven't been able to find anything.. and like I said, I did find one but it requires S-OFF and the juniper thing, or whatever to lazy to look up the name right now lol, is not released yet.. and I haven't been able to find another way to get S-OFF..
If you want ics that bad you have to do it like every one else here...there is no reason to whine cause your to lazy to relock the bootloader ..it take all of about three mins for me to relock mine ... and about 20 min to do the whole process...you don't need s off to get ics if your using the vivid or velocity. there's no place for lazy people here so please just do it like ever one else or do with out
I'm fully aware you don't NEED S-OFF to get ICS its the only way I have found to do it with an unlocked bootloader if you even bothered to read my post. And if your going to be rude and unhelpful stay out of my thread, people like you are why forums loose members. I simply asked a question I never said I was lazy and wouldn't do it I was simply looking for an easier alternative.
The S-OFF is obviously a mistake, because if it was S-OFF then you wouldn't have to do fastboot oem lock.
Yes, you have to relock the bootloader. Make sure you kept your unlock_code.bin or else you might not be able to unlock the bootloader again.
To be extra safe you should flash stock recovery before you do anything.
Quick question going along with this, it may be stupid, I just wanted to make sure before I try anything: I'm currently on RumRaider and I want to switch to ICS. If I were to revert to stock and relock and then do the OTA update to ICS from AT&T, can I still get root with the same zergrush application or whatever that I used before?
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becandl said:
Quick question going along with this, it may be stupid, I just wanted to make sure before I try anything: I'm currently on RumRaider and I want to switch to ICS. If I were to revert to stock and relock and then do the OTA update to ICS from AT&T, can I still get root with the same zergrush application or whatever that I used before?
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Yes you can currently root the official ota of ics.
becandl said:
Quick question going along with this, it may be stupid, I just wanted to make sure before I try anything: I'm currently on RumRaider and I want to switch to ICS. If I were to revert to stock and relock and then do the OTA update to ICS from AT&T, can I still get root with the same zergrush application or whatever that I used before?
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Your best bet is to relock the boot loader then run the ruu for the vivid then re unlock and do your flashes
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Hunt3r.j2 said:
The S-OFF is obviously a mistake, because if it was S-OFF then you wouldn't have to do fastboot oem lock.
Yes, you have to relock the bootloader. Make sure you kept your unlock_code.bin or else you might not be able to unlock the bootloader again.
To be extra safe you should flash stock recovery before you do anything.
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ccb101 said:
Your best bet is to relock the boot loader then run the ruu for the vivid then re unlock and do your flashes
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Hmm well OTA still kept failing for me, even after relocking the bootloader.. I ended up having to download the RUU from HTC Support and install it through my computer using HTC Sync.. which kinda sucked but it still at least installed ICS..
lmftmf said:
Yes you can currently root the official ota of ics.
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and what lol?! where, I haven't been able to root mine and the zergrush that I used for GB failed.. the only thing I have been able to find is this:
wcxxperia-nce.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=305
Which I am considering mainly because he almost doubled the proc speed..
Iomega0318 said:
and what lol?! where, I haven't been able to root mine and the zergrush that I used for GB failed.. the only thing I have been able to find is this:
wcxxperia-nce.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=305
Which I am considering mainly because he almost doubled the proc speed..
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There are plenty of options out there. Since you now have an updated HBOOT, flash a recovery image and CWM a rooted stock ROM.
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Thanks for the help guys. I relocked the bootloader and ran the RUU, then did the OTA. After that I used the noob proof tool thing in the dev forums and installed the WCX recovery and then rooted with the same tool as well. Currently typing on it, and loving it!
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There is another way.
Iomega0318 said:
Hmm well OTA still kept failing for me, even after relocking the bootloader.. I ended up having to download the RUU from HTC Support and install it through my computer using HTC Sync.. which kinda sucked but it still at least installed ICS..
and what lol?! where, I haven't been able to root mine and the zergrush that I used for GB failed.. the only thing I have been able to find is this:
wcxxperia-nce.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=305
Which I am considering mainly because he almost doubled the proc speed..
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I was on stock ICS and was trying to root after unlocking my bootloader. I found that ROM developer pirateghost has a rooted OTA ICS ROM image you can flash. I was having he|| rooting my Vivid. I flashed his ROM and got what I needed. My Vivid rooted and still on ICS.
You can find it on goo.im here goo.im/devs/pirateghost/vivid
Aus_Azn said:
There are plenty of options out there. Since you now have an updated HBOOT, flash a recovery image and CWM a rooted stock ROM.
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Yeah I have been keeping an eye on WhildChild and he just realeased a new version.. So going to give that a try tonight, hope it goes ok, if not I'll be back lol..
daspazz said:
I was on stock ICS and was trying to root after unlocking my bootloader. I found that ROM developer pirateghost has a rooted OTA ICS ROM image you can flash. I was having he|| rooting my Vivid. I flashed his ROM and got what I needed. My Vivid rooted and still on ICS.
You can find it on goo.im here goo.im/devs/pirateghost/vivid
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Nice! Wish I found that earlier, right now I am probably going to use WhildChilds ROM since he has put so much into it and over clocked the kernel..

HTC Vivid Stock Rom 2.3.4?

I just bought a HTC Vivid, and before I start rooting and doing all that stuff, I'd like to know if anyone has a 2.3.4 stock rom. I want this because if I brick it then I will be able to flash it back, and I can't seem to find one. I've been searching all over, so if anyone has a stock rom it would be very helpful!
Thank you
I hope this is the right category, just registered
Just use this...if your bricked you won't be able to use recovery to flash a Rom...here is a ruu...its not gingerbread but it will bring you to official ics stock...http://dl3.htc.com/application/htc_vivid_att_RUU_3.26.502.56_US.exe
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Oh even better, I was just planning to go back to 2.3.4 then upgrade to 4.0.3 anyways, this is great. Thanks a bunch!
EDIT: Wait, will this act as a flash and flash the whole OS on my vivid back to ICS 4.0? or just update it...
Kevin147 said:
Oh even better, I was just planning to go back to 2.3.4 then upgrade to 4.0.3 anyways, this is great. Thanks a bunch!
EDIT: Wait, will this act as a flash and flash the whole OS on my vivid back to ICS 4.0? or just update it...
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Will flash whole os
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ronnie498 said:
Will flash whole os
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Okay, good. Thanks. Sorry, first time rooting
Which also means that it'll flash the stock kernel, ROM, and wipe your entire phone. Remember to relock the bootloader before running the RUU if it's unlocked.
altanimi said:
Which also means that it'll flash the stock kernel, ROM, and wipe your entire phone. Remember to relock the bootloader before running the RUU if it's unlocked.
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How would I go about unlocking/locking it back up? I'm not quite sure what to do, I don't have the phone just yet, but its in the mail. I'll most likely need help rooting it when I get it..
Kevin147 said:
How would I go about unlocking/locking it back up? I'm not quite sure what to do, I don't have the phone just yet, but its in the mail. I'll most likely need help rooting it when I get it..
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Getting your phone flashed to the ICS RUU will help you later when flashing custom roms (as I believe all of them are ICS-based)
The Superguide sticky thread in development can help you with the Bootloader Unlock procedure and many other things like rooting and prepping your phone for the S-OFF procedure (if you want to S-OFF your phone). Link below.
Unlocking the bootloader gives you permission to flash to partitions like your recovery partition (so you can flash custom recovery like clockworkmod etc.)
Once your bootloader is unlocked, RUU's will refuse to flash to your phone until you re-lock the bootloader. To relock your bootloader, power up the phone into HBOOT/Bootloader mode, choose Fastboot, then in a command prompt, run the command:
Code:
fastboot oem lock
To confirm it worked, next time you power up the phone into HBOOT/Bootloader mode, you should see at the top of the screen **RELOCKED**
Then you will be able to flash an RUU via your computer (while having your phone in fastboot mode)
When you get to the S-OFF portion of the superguide:
If you DO want to S-OFF your phone, follow that section of the superguide EXACTLY. It has important steps for prepping your phone for the S-OFF procedure.
If you do NOT want to S-OFF your phone, note that whenever you flash custom ROMS, the kernel partition must be flashed manually via fastboot (either before or after flashing the rom - I don't think it matters if it is before or after - anyone know this for sure?). I think every ROM includes the kernel (boot.img) file inside the zip so you can copy it to the same folder that has your fastboot.exe so you can run:
Code:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
Here is the superguide link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416836
Or use the toolkit...its easy and walks you through the steps of unlocking bootloader and rooting...it also has a relock bootloader option so you can relock it in a click of a button...
If your gonna use the ruu...use it before you even root/unlock.the bootloader...that way you won't have to relock it
Here's the toolkit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1498003
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Wow! Thank you both for your information. I'm sure that they will both help me out greatly when it comes down to rooting.
I am running 2.3.4 on my phone and looking to update next week when I get my new battery. Did you have any issues with your update? Are you running ICS now? Any advice?
Follow the user guides. It's not hard or long just make sure you read the guides so you can update the bootloader properly.
its impossible to get ahold of the RUU's for the vivid, i need the stock Bell one, seeing that i have a Virgin Mobile SIM, I'm still on GB and i want to update to ICS. already going through the process of returning to S-ON
There are ICS ruu's available on goo.im
Even the bell one
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Yup - the ICS bell stock RUU specifically is
http://goo.im/stock/holiday/ruu/RUU_HOLIDAY_ICS_35_S_BM_3.38.666.2_Radio_3.04.4740.11_34.29.701040.22_release_255916_signed.exe
and the GB bell stock RUU is
http://goo.im/stock/holiday/ruu/RUU_Holiday_BM_1.65.666.3_Radio_1.11.1020.03_30.77.551061.02L_release_222207_signed.exe
htc velocity
vi need help reverting to Gingerbread from ice cream sandwich , im currently stuck at the juopunutbear s-off bootloader loopi need help reverting to Gingerbread from ice cream sandwich , im currently stuck at the juopunutbear s-off bootloader loop
DaveTNAF said:
vi need help reverting to Gingerbread from ice cream sandwich , im currently stuck at the juopunutbear s-off bootloader loopi need help reverting to Gingerbread from ice cream sandwich , im currently stuck at the juopunutbear s-off bootloader loop
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Perhaps a new question thread is more appropriate for your issue. I recommend you do that and describe this boot loop in more detail. Also, I remember there being a thread re: s-off unsuccesful doesnt mean phone is bricked.
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Help can't flash Rom (Already unlocked and S-OFF)

I Was able to unlock my bootloader, root my phone and S-off my phone. But, everytime I try flashing a Rom my phone freezes on boot. Does anyone have why this happens. I also cannot install any att updates.Please Help!!
More info.
Att HTC One
Twrp Recovery
Version: 1.26.502.10 with Back button mod, battery precentage and custom Kernal
Probably didn't wipe..
a box of kittens said:
Probably didn't wipe..
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I Made sure I wiped, and i still can't Flash any roms.
What Rom are u trying to install? Did aroma complete 100%?
Did u fastboot erase cache after installing Rom?
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bailie1912 said:
What Rom are u trying to install? Did aroma complete 100%?
Did u fastboot erase cache after installing Rom?
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I've tried many different roms from stock .12 roms, to revolution 10.2
What happens if you try flashing a ROM, do
Code:
adb logcat
on your computer and boot your phone while connected?
Sounds like you have a problem.
The logcat will help find the issue, so do that for sure. Also, what method did you use for unlocking, and for s-off?
Mihir1997 said:
Sounds like you have a problem.
The logcat will help find the issue, so do that for sure. Also, what method did you use for unlocking, and for s-off?
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I used Revone to S-off, and I went through HTC to unlock my bootloader
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I used Revone to S-off, and I went through HTC to unlock my bootloader
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standard stuff then. Just had to ask, because some time peopl say things without knowing (they S-offed a Vivid using titanium backup.)
Okay, first things first. Update the firmware. This is super simple. There are tons of threads on the HTC One forums with guides, etc.
If that doesn't help, try resetting the whole device (un s-off, un root, relock bootloader,) then do it all again.it should work after that
(you could flash a RUU instead, and then re-flash a custom recovery, and new roms.

[Q]S-OFF

Two simple questions: When do I need S-OFF and when do I know?
I want to test some of the custom roms on xda, and I have unlocked the bootloader, flashed cwm and are rooted.
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You don't need S OFF to use ROMS. So long as you have CWM you can flash any ROM. But you have to flash the Boot.IMG separately as well.
E.g.
- Download your ROM
- Double click on the ZIP and take the Boot.IMG out. Just get a copy of it. Doesn't matter if it's still in the ZIP. You just need a copy of it.
- Flash the ROM
- Go back in Fastboot and flash the Boot.IMG
- To do that put the IMG in your Fastboot folder or any folder than recognises ADB (Fastboot mode)
- Open CMD and navigate to the Fastboot folder in which the boot.img is too
- Type with CMD : Fastboot flash boot boot.img
- It should say complete or OK
- Restart phone and enjoy
S OFF is mainly just for users who can't be bothered to do that. And to find out if you have S OFF you go in Fastboot mode and it will say up top if it is or not (S-ON)
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But why not just get s off and flash roms normally? What's the reason for not get s off?
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VistaX said:
But why not just get s off and flash roms normally? What's the reason for not get s off?
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you don't need S-off unless you want to change your phone's CID or downgrade the HBoot
if you don't know what these things are you don't need it.
You also don't need it to flash a kernel like the 2nd post suggested.
I've flashed about 10 different roms and not had to that with any of them. Just flash the zip in recovery. I'm new to android a few months so maybe things have changed recently?
S-off is if you want change bootloaders, cid, etc. Once you have s-off it's easy to brick your device if you're not careful. It's not needed for flashing roms though.
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Ah, then I'm gonna skip S-OFF. I've flashed many roms with mye SGS3 and LGO2X, but I think maybe HTC is a little more tricky to handle.
VistaX said:
Ah, then I'm gonna skip S-OFF. I've flashed many roms with mye SGS3 and LGO2X, but I think maybe HTC is a little moretricky to handle.
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Yes they are definitely!
So for the "common flasher" it's not necessary to be S-ON?
VistaX said:
So for the "common flasher" it's not necessary to be S-ON?
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If all you plan to do is use custom ROMs then there's no need to be S-OFF. All you'll really need is unlocked bootloader and custom recovery (TWRP or CWM).
S-off allows you to change your phone's firmware regardless of what carrier you have or model ID. So you can get the most recent firmware even if your carrier hasn't pushed out an OTA. That matters to some people but not all.
It also allows you to flash a custom hboot to remove the red text on your splash screen. This is wholly an OCD thing--there's no good reason to do it otherwise.
S-off essentially means you're taking full responsibility for your phone and can't rely on HTC's security checks to prevent bricks.

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