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[Q] Update to ICS from rooted phone

I have my HTC Vivid rooted and on HoliRaider v1.6. I really wanted to use the rom Rum Float Beta, which is ics. I tried to find the steps for updating to this but i get kinda confused... If anyone could help me that would be great!

Taken from a similar thread...........
the RUU or the methods that thecubed and i have laid out will get you the necessary HBOOT/RADIO/etc that you will need to flash a custom ICS rom
either method will get you the same thing....an updated HBOOT and ICS
if you run the bootloader unlock tool from htcdev, YOU WILL LOSE ALL YOUR SETTINGS! it will wipe the device like its brand new......do NOT include this in your dreams of getting backups prior to flashing a custom rom....
please just read through the posts and understand what is going on.
in order for ICS to happen on your vivid you need the new HBOOT, Radio, and various other components that the RUU/PH39IMG contain
there are 3 different roads you can follow to get there, the EASIEST being just run the RUU (WHICH WILL ALSO WIPE SETTINGS!), afterwards, reboot to bootloader, unlock bootloader, reboot to fastboot, fastboot flash the boot.img and the recovery.img of your choice on (limited on boot.img's at the moment, better use the one from the rom), reboot to recovery and flash the rom
the other methods imply you understand somewhat how the process works.
relock bootloader (if unlocked), run PH39IMG install, unlock bootloader, fastboot flash recovery and boot.img, reboot to recovery and flash rom.....
if you wrap your head around HOW it works, its all really simple....so the first step is understanding HOW it works, not blindly following some tutorial or walkthrough.
please try to LEARN and UNDERSTAND what it is you are doing....

The thing that is getting me is how I have to Lock the bootloader again. Do I just lock it through the htc unlock tool? How do I " run PH39IMG install"? After, do i follow the same steps that i did before to root my phone?

To relock bootloader:
fastboot oem lock
To Unlock bootloader:
fastboot flash unlocktoken Unlock_code.bin
The PH39IMG file needs to be on the root of your SD card. Boot into hboot and it will automatically find the the PH39IMG file and update. I hope this helps. Like you said it's almost exact same steps you did to root assuming you didn't use the supertool or one click method.

Kent Melton said:
The thing that is getting me is how I have to Lock the bootloader again. Do I just lock it through the htc unlock tool? How do I " run PH39IMG install"? After, do i follow the same steps that i did before to root my phone?
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Fastboot OEM lock. This is done from the fastboot screen. This is covered in the superguide and mentioned several times throughout these forums.
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strose after putting the ruu on a stock vivid, which boot.img file are you going to look for and recovery img file? this is where i get a little confused?
strose09 said:
Taken from a similar thread...........
the RUU or the methods that thecubed and i have laid out will get you the necessary HBOOT/RADIO/etc that you will need to flash a custom ICS rom
either method will get you the same thing....an updated HBOOT and ICS
if you run the bootloader unlock tool from htcdev, YOU WILL LOSE ALL YOUR SETTINGS! it will wipe the device like its brand new......do NOT include this in your dreams of getting backups prior to flashing a custom rom....
please just read through the posts and understand what is going on.
in order for ICS to happen on your vivid you need the new HBOOT, Radio, and various other components that the RUU/PH39IMG contain
there are 3 different roads you can follow to get there, the EASIEST being just run the RUU (WHICH WILL ALSO WIPE SETTINGS!), afterwards, reboot to bootloader, unlock bootloader, reboot to fastboot, fastboot flash the boot.img and the recovery.img of your choice on (limited on boot.img's at the moment, better use the one from the rom), reboot to recovery and flash the rom
the other methods imply you understand somewhat how the process works.
relock bootloader (if unlocked), run PH39IMG install, unlock bootloader, fastboot flash recovery and boot.img, reboot to recovery and flash rom.....
if you wrap your head around HOW it works, its all really simple....so the first step is understanding HOW it works, not blindly following some tutorial or walkthrough.
please try to LEARN and UNDERSTAND what it is you are doing....
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I got the recovery I needed following this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23238449&postcount=9

alright so after i get the two files that i need i just follow the instructions above starting with locking bootloader?
strose09 said:
I got the recovery I needed following this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23238449&postcount=9
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Before you start are you savvy with fastboot commands? I'm confident you can do this but just read read read. I'll answer your questions as best as I can. I"m not a dev or anything but I was able to do this following the steps created by PG and Thecubed.

i've tip toed around with it. Back when i had my evo 4g. I'm pretty familiar with the commands and stuff. i think i got a pretty good idea with the superguide also. after the getting the img file on and cwm i'm decent at the whole flash thing. If i can just get past that point i think im good.
strose09 said:
Before you start are you savvy with fastboot commands? I'm confident you can do this but just read read read. I'll answer your questions as best as I can. I"m not a dev or anything but I was able to do this following the steps created by PG and Thecubed.
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Yes keep the superguide thread open as well. It's a great resource to have while you are doing this. The steps are nearly the same just have to update the HBOOT first. Good luck! I look forward to seeing you post having a successful install.

So I just got my replacement vivid..still locked and everything..how do I update with the ruu?
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Connect phone to pc, open .exe and run it.
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Thank u got it going and thank god cuz now pg it seems has left the building...
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If we flash the RUU, do we need to relock the bootloader first or just run the RUU? Running stock rooted
EDIT: Nvm I found my answer. Still unable to find the RUU. Anyone have a mirror to the RUU?

Apatche69 said:
If we flash the RUU, do we need to relock the bootloader first or just run the RUU? Running stock rooted
EDIT: Nvm I found my answer. Still unable to find the RUU. Anyone have a mirror to the RUU?
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Here you go

Thank you very much. I'll look forward to ICS.

[Q] Install AT&T OTA Update with unlocked bootloader?

So I'm wanting to install the OTA ICS update but it fails and I get the little red exclamation point when I try.. I am assuming this is because my bootloader is unlocked? I've been trying to find a way to install it but the only one I found was one requiring S-OFF which I don't have..
So basically my question is can I install ICS on my rooted unlocked bootloader?
If absolutely necessary I can always lock it, install, then re unlock it but that's such a pain.. AT&T gets on my nerves sometimes..

I am almost positive that you have to do the re-lock process unless somehow they found another way. You should probably read around next time. Most likely, someone has already asked your question.
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I've read quite a few threads but haven't been able to find anything.. and like I said, I did find one but it requires S-OFF and the juniper thing, or whatever to lazy to look up the name right now lol, is not released yet.. and I haven't been able to find another way to get S-OFF..

If you want ics that bad you have to do it like every one else here...there is no reason to whine cause your to lazy to relock the bootloader ..it take all of about three mins for me to relock mine ... and about 20 min to do the whole process...you don't need s off to get ics if your using the vivid or velocity. there's no place for lazy people here so please just do it like ever one else or do with out

I'm fully aware you don't NEED S-OFF to get ICS its the only way I have found to do it with an unlocked bootloader if you even bothered to read my post. And if your going to be rude and unhelpful stay out of my thread, people like you are why forums loose members. I simply asked a question I never said I was lazy and wouldn't do it I was simply looking for an easier alternative.

The S-OFF is obviously a mistake, because if it was S-OFF then you wouldn't have to do fastboot oem lock.
Yes, you have to relock the bootloader. Make sure you kept your unlock_code.bin or else you might not be able to unlock the bootloader again.
To be extra safe you should flash stock recovery before you do anything.

Quick question going along with this, it may be stupid, I just wanted to make sure before I try anything: I'm currently on RumRaider and I want to switch to ICS. If I were to revert to stock and relock and then do the OTA update to ICS from AT&T, can I still get root with the same zergrush application or whatever that I used before?
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becandl said:
Quick question going along with this, it may be stupid, I just wanted to make sure before I try anything: I'm currently on RumRaider and I want to switch to ICS. If I were to revert to stock and relock and then do the OTA update to ICS from AT&T, can I still get root with the same zergrush application or whatever that I used before?
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Yes you can currently root the official ota of ics.

becandl said:
Quick question going along with this, it may be stupid, I just wanted to make sure before I try anything: I'm currently on RumRaider and I want to switch to ICS. If I were to revert to stock and relock and then do the OTA update to ICS from AT&T, can I still get root with the same zergrush application or whatever that I used before?
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Your best bet is to relock the boot loader then run the ruu for the vivid then re unlock and do your flashes
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Hunt3r.j2 said:
The S-OFF is obviously a mistake, because if it was S-OFF then you wouldn't have to do fastboot oem lock.
Yes, you have to relock the bootloader. Make sure you kept your unlock_code.bin or else you might not be able to unlock the bootloader again.
To be extra safe you should flash stock recovery before you do anything.
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ccb101 said:
Your best bet is to relock the boot loader then run the ruu for the vivid then re unlock and do your flashes
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Hmm well OTA still kept failing for me, even after relocking the bootloader.. I ended up having to download the RUU from HTC Support and install it through my computer using HTC Sync.. which kinda sucked but it still at least installed ICS..
lmftmf said:
Yes you can currently root the official ota of ics.
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and what lol?! where, I haven't been able to root mine and the zergrush that I used for GB failed.. the only thing I have been able to find is this:
wcxxperia-nce.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=305
Which I am considering mainly because he almost doubled the proc speed..

Iomega0318 said:
and what lol?! where, I haven't been able to root mine and the zergrush that I used for GB failed.. the only thing I have been able to find is this:
wcxxperia-nce.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=305
Which I am considering mainly because he almost doubled the proc speed..
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There are plenty of options out there. Since you now have an updated HBOOT, flash a recovery image and CWM a rooted stock ROM.
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Thanks for the help guys. I relocked the bootloader and ran the RUU, then did the OTA. After that I used the noob proof tool thing in the dev forums and installed the WCX recovery and then rooted with the same tool as well. Currently typing on it, and loving it!
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There is another way.
Iomega0318 said:
Hmm well OTA still kept failing for me, even after relocking the bootloader.. I ended up having to download the RUU from HTC Support and install it through my computer using HTC Sync.. which kinda sucked but it still at least installed ICS..
and what lol?! where, I haven't been able to root mine and the zergrush that I used for GB failed.. the only thing I have been able to find is this:
wcxxperia-nce.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=305
Which I am considering mainly because he almost doubled the proc speed..
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I was on stock ICS and was trying to root after unlocking my bootloader. I found that ROM developer pirateghost has a rooted OTA ICS ROM image you can flash. I was having he|| rooting my Vivid. I flashed his ROM and got what I needed. My Vivid rooted and still on ICS.
You can find it on goo.im here goo.im/devs/pirateghost/vivid

Aus_Azn said:
There are plenty of options out there. Since you now have an updated HBOOT, flash a recovery image and CWM a rooted stock ROM.
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Yeah I have been keeping an eye on WhildChild and he just realeased a new version.. So going to give that a try tonight, hope it goes ok, if not I'll be back lol..
daspazz said:
I was on stock ICS and was trying to root after unlocking my bootloader. I found that ROM developer pirateghost has a rooted OTA ICS ROM image you can flash. I was having he|| rooting my Vivid. I flashed his ROM and got what I needed. My Vivid rooted and still on ICS.
You can find it on goo.im here goo.im/devs/pirateghost/vivid
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Nice! Wish I found that earlier, right now I am probably going to use WhildChilds ROM since he has put so much into it and over clocked the kernel..

[Q] what is s-off

Getting ready to root my phone and flash a Rom in the couple of days...just wanna be sure I know everything before I go for it...this is my second android...my first being the infuse which did not require bootloader to be unlocked or this s off thing....
I'm just curious what s off does for the phone...Im pretty sure the unlocked bootloader just allows the phone to boot unsigned roms and stuff (correct me if I'm wrong) but I've never heard of s off...what is it ...what does it do?
Once I get more comfortable with this phone...I may begin to develop for it...
Thanks for any help with my question...any and all information you may think is useful is also appreciated...anything...I'm brand new to this phone and to HTC/sense
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mg2195 said:
Getting ready to root my phone and flash a Rom in the couple of days...just wanna be sure I know everything before I go for it...this is my second android...my first being the infuse which did not require bootloader to be unlocked or this s off thing....
I'm just curious what s off does for the phone...Im pretty sure the unlocked bootloader just allows the phone to boot unsigned roms and stuff (correct me if I'm wrong) but I've never heard of s off...what is it ...what does it do?
Once I get more comfortable with this phone...I may begin to develop for it...
Thanks for any help with my question...any and all information you may think is useful is also appreciated...anything...I'm brand new to this phone and to HTC/sense
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S-off is security off. It allows you to write to partitions you aren't able to write to with just an unlocked bootloader. This was important for users who didn't get an official ICS update from their carrier. Without an official update, they didn't have an ICS HBoot and couldn't run ICS ROMs. With s-off, you can flash custom/unsigned HBoot so ICS is available for those users. That's s-off's main purpose for this device, but has a bunch of other uses. However, s-off is not necessary unless you want ICS and don't have an official update from your carrier. You can also flash radios, splash screens, boot.img from recovery, etc, etc

homeslice976 said:
S-off is security off. It allows you to write to partitions you aren't able to write to with just an unlocked bootloader. This was important for users who didn't get an official ICS update from their carrier. Without an official update, they didn't have an ICS HBoot and couldn't run ICS ROMs. With s-off, you can flash custom/unsigned HBoot so ICS is available for those users. That's s-off's main purpose for this device, but has a bunch of other uses. However, s-off is not necessary unless you want ICS and don't have an official update from your carrier. You can also flash radios, splash screens, boot.img from recovery, etc, etc
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Ok, thanks for the info...I was looking at one of the stickies and it said it wasn't needed but didn't say what it did...so I guess ill need it to flash a recovery
Again thanks for the info
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mg2195 said:
Ok, thanks for the info...I was looking at one of the stickies and it said it wasn't needed but didn't say what it did...so I guess ill need it to flash a recovery
Again thanks for the info
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No. To flash a custom recovery all you need is an unlocked bootloader. Recovery is one of the partitions you can fastboot flash without s-off or an eng bootloader

homeslice976 said:
No. To flash a custom recovery all you need is an unlocked bootloader. Recovery is one of the partitions you can fastboot flash without s-off or an eng bootloader
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Ok then...so if I'm just gonna be flashing roms than s off isn't neccessary? Sorry for all the questions...just wanna do everything right...
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mg2195 said:
Ok then...so if I'm just gonna be flashing roms than s off isn't neccessary? Sorry for all the questions...just wanna do everything right...
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I see you have ATT, which means you have a Vivid, so S-Off is NOT necessary for flashing ROMs. If the Vivid came with ICS, you're all set to unlock bootloader, flash custom recovery, flash boot.img, and flash ROM. If your Vivid currently has GB, you'll want to run an ICS RUU first (relock bootloader first if it is currently unlocked), then unlock, etc

s-off necesary for kernel?
homeslice976 said:
I see you have ATT, which means you have a Vivid, so S-Off is NOT necessary for flashing ROMs. If the Vivid came with ICS, you're all set to unlock bootloader, flash custom recovery, flash boot.img, and flash ROM. If your Vivid currently has GB, you'll want to run an ICS RUU first (relock bootloader first if it is currently unlocked), then unlock, etc
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i'm on at&t with ics update , rooted unlocked bootloader
i hav a confusion...is s-off necesary for flashing kernel?i want to flash holicakes kernel but i cant find if s-off is necessary for kernel
thanks for any future help

nikhilpshankar said:
i'm on at&t with ics update , rooted unlocked bootloader
i hav a confusion...is s-off necesary for flashing kernel?i want to flash holicakes kernel but i cant find if s-off is necessary for kernel
thanks for any future help
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Not necessary but makes it easier. There are other options: (boot.img is usually found in the rom zip file.)
1. Fastboot boot recovery.img - command from terminal/CMD
2. Fastboot flash boot boot.img - command from terminal/CMD
3. Flashimage GUI (app is in Themes and Apps section)
Any of these options will work.

nikhilpshankar said:
i'm on at&t with ics update , rooted unlocked bootloader
i hav a confusion...is s-off necesary for flashing kernel?i want to flash holicakes kernel but i cant find if s-off is necessary for kernel
thanks for any future help
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DO NOT FLASH HOLICAKES KERNEL... ITS FOR GINGERBREAD
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Wow...back in my noobie HTC days lol haha
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I laughed when I saw this thread pop back up too

PLEASE help me fix my phone!

really sorry for starting a new thread but i've been searching like crazy and i have not found anything like what i have to deal with.
So the phone WAS a stock rogers Raider, sim unlocked when i bought it. Everything was okay until i started messing around with it.
What has happened to the phone:
I used hasoon's kit to unlock the bootloader and gain root access, along with rom manager and cwm because i wanted to download an ics rom for my phone. well the VERY NEXT DAY the stock ota update for ics came out for my phone, and when i tried to update it the official way it would get stuck on the htc screen until my battery completely died beyond repair, so 2 weeks later when the new battery came in the mail, i was still rooted and on 2.3. I learned after that the ota updates do not work on my rooted phone for some reason, so i tried to install an ics rom through clockworkmod recovery, and now when i try to boot my phone it gets stuck at the htc screen and doesnt do anything more, but using power and vol. UP i can still access hboot, which says "unlocked with s-on" ive tried to hit "factory reset" but it still wont boot.
If possible, what i would like to do to the phone:
Completely restore the phone to stock, locked bootloader, unrooted, and to a stock gingerbread so i can install the ota ice cream sandwich update.
I know i'm asking for a ton of help but please hear me out, im honestly getting depressed because of this darn phone.
Also, please use words as simple as you can because im really not the type of person who shouldve even started with all this stuff!

jperta said:
really sorry for starting a new thread but i've been searching like crazy and i have not found anything like what i have to deal with.
So the phone WAS a stock rogers Raider, sim unlocked when i bought it. Everything was okay until i started messing around with it.
What has happened to the phone:
I used hasoon's kit to unlock the bootloader and gain root access, along with rom manager and cwm because i wanted to download an ics rom for my phone. well the VERY NEXT DAY the stock ota update for ics came out for my phone, and when i tried to update it the official way it would get stuck on the htc screen until my battery completely died beyond repair, so 2 weeks later when the new battery came in the mail, i was still rooted and on 2.3. I learned after that the ota updates do not work on my rooted phone for some reason, so i tried to install an ics rom through clockworkmod recovery, and now when i try to boot my phone it gets stuck at the htc screen and doesnt do anything more, but using power and vol. UP i can still access hboot, which says "unlocked with s-on" ive tried to hit "factory reset" but it still wont boot.
If possible, what i would like to do to the phone:
Completely restore the phone to stock, locked bootloader, unrooted, and to a stock gingerbread so i can install the ota ice cream sandwich update.
I know i'm asking for a ton of help but please hear me out, im honestly getting depressed because of this darn phone.
Also, please use words as simple as you can because im really not the type of person who shouldve even started with all this stuff!
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Use the guide in my signature. It's step 6. Basically what it entails is relocking the bootloader (an OTA, RUU, PH zip all won't work with an unlocked bootloader), then running the Rogers ICS RUU for your device (the link for that is in the guide). The RUU does the same thing as the OTA. That's the easiest way to do it. No need to mess around with going back to stock GB and all that. You can go straight to stock ICS if you re-lock your bootloader and run the ICS RUU.

jperta said:
really sorry for starting a new thread but i've been searching like crazy and i have not found anything like what i have to deal with.
So the phone WAS a stock rogers Raider, sim unlocked when i bought it. Everything was okay until i started messing around with it.
What has happened to the phone:
I used hasoon's kit to unlock the bootloader and gain root access, along with rom manager and cwm because i wanted to download an ics rom for my phone. well the VERY NEXT DAY the stock ota update for ics came out for my phone, and when i tried to update it the official way it would get stuck on the htc screen until my battery completely died beyond repair, so 2 weeks later when the new battery came in the mail, i was still rooted and on 2.3. I learned after that the ota updates do not work on my rooted phone for some reason, so i tried to install an ics rom through clockworkmod recovery, and now when i try to boot my phone it gets stuck at the htc screen and doesnt do anything more, but using power and vol. UP i can still access hboot, which says "unlocked with s-on" ive tried to hit "factory reset" but it still wont boot.
If possible, what i would like to do to the phone:
Completely restore the phone to stock, locked bootloader, unrooted, and to a stock gingerbread so i can install the ota ice cream sandwich update.
I know i'm asking for a ton of help but please hear me out, im honestly getting depressed because of this darn phone.
Also, please use words as simple as you can because im really not the type of person who shouldve even started with all this stuff!
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You need to read before you jump the gun and mess around
First of all you can't be rooted and you can't have an unlocked bootloader for official updates/ruus
Second you can't flash ics unless you are s off and get an ics hboot
Here's the fix,
1) download the ruu from HTC website...I can try and find a link later
2) boot into hboot then fastboot
3) run the tool kit and use the relock bootloader option
4) if your phone reboots just go back to fastboot
5) if your bootloader now says relocked then just run the ruu
Ruu is official update done through a computer
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resuldsd (Simonds)
mg2195 said:
You need to read before you jump the gun and mess around
First of all you can't be rooted and you can't have an unlocked bootloader for official updates/ruus
Second you can't flash ics unless you are s off and get an ics hboot
Here's the fix,
1) download the ruu from HTC website...I can try and find a link later
2) boot into hboot then fastboot
3) run the tool kit and use the relock bootloader option
4) if your phone reboots just go back to fastboot
5) if your bootloader now says relocked then just run the ruu
Ruu is official update done through a computer
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Thank you both for your replies, i absolutely agree i really regret doing this, a link would be greatly appreciated too. and i just relocked my bootloader and it says "relocked security warning" so i guess its relocked, and finally how would i run the ruu? Im really sorry for being so clueless

The ICS Rogers RUU is here. Just boot into hboot and run it on your computer.

psmpar traditional
slapshot30 said:
The ICS Rogers RUU is Just boot into hboot and run it on your computer.
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okay thanks so much, it always says "All free download slots are in use" which is strange because it only says that when i try to download the rogers ruu. i guess i just have to wait.
*update*
okay one more annoying question i promise. if i download gingerbread ruu from hotfile, i cant post the link but from another thread it works, and by doing what you said, hboot, plugin to computer and run the .exe, can i then upgrade to 4.0 by using the ota?

When i re-locked my bootloader, to confirm i went into h-boot, and it should say "Re locked bootloader".
But follow slapshot guide to the tee and you'll be good.
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HELP! Downgrade from ICS 4.0.4 to GB 2.3.3

Hello everybody,
I was quite happy with my Incredible S until I updated it via OTA to ICS 4.0.4 + Sense 3.6...
Before that, I had been using it with Gingerbread 2.3.3 (or 2.3.5 ?!?) and Sense 2.1 and it was pretty good! I mean.. it did its job without significant problems..
Last week I decided to do ALL the updates in a rush and now it's laggy and slow...What drives me crazy is when I type some text (text messages, whatsapp, browser web, etc.): the touchInput seems not to be as responsive as it was once.. and it is frustrating!
I read a lot about this topic and I discovered that it's a common problem.
I tried to install other keyboards, other messaging apps, I made a factory reset, but nothing helped!
Now I'd really like to downgrade it to Gingerbread + a lighter Sense because I think that Sense 3.6 is too much heavy for this stupid phone.
Since I was (indeed I currently am) a complete noob about mobile systems I need help from you!
My idea is to install a stock rom and not a custom rom because every custom rom have some drawbacks or flaws.. while the stock Gingerbread 2.3.3 was flawless (I swear!).
I read that it's not possible to install an older version of Android via RUU.. is it right?
Is it possible to do something without rooting / s-offing the phone? (I'm not sure about s-off = having root priviledges...)
I read all the threads but I didn't find a clear answer to my problem.. please help!
Thank you guys!
p.s. I'm quite sure that android gb 2.3.3 came with sense 2.1 while gb 2.3.5 came with sense 3.0

Sadly you can't downgrade with an RUU - that would be sweet. Since you are on ICS, i'd assume your hboot version is 2.00+. I'm not sure if you can downgrade that, but take a look around. Essentially, you'd want to install CWM recovery, and install this GB 2.3.5 rom with sense 3. Note, there are no radios, you will have to flash those as well. Unfortunately, this is the only way to downgrade. Also, you will need S-off.

seba_t said:
Hello everybody,
I was quite happy with my Incredible S until I updated it via OTA to ICS 4.0.4 + Sense 3.6...
Before that, I had been using it with Gingerbread 2.3.3 (or 2.3.5 ?!?) and Sense 2.1 and it was pretty good! I mean.. it did its job without significant problems..
Last week I decided to do ALL the updates in a rush and now it's laggy and slow...What drives me crazy is when I type some text (text messages, whatsapp, browser web, etc.): the touchInput seems not to be as responsive as it was once.. and it is frustrating!
I read a lot about this topic and I discovered that it's a common problem.
I tried to install other keyboards, other messaging apps, I made a factory reset, but nothing helped!
Now I'd really like to downgrade it to Gingerbread + a lighter Sense because I think that Sense 3.6 is too much heavy for this stupid phone.
Since I was (indeed I currently am) a complete noob about mobile systems I need help from you!
My idea is to install a stock rom and not a custom rom because every custom rom have some drawbacks or flaws.. while the stock Gingerbread 2.3.3 was flawless (I swear!).
I read that it's not possible to install an older version of Android via RUU.. is it right?
Is it possible to do something without rooting / s-offing the phone? (I'm not sure about s-off = having root priviledges...)
I read all the threads but I didn't find a clear answer to my problem.. please help!
Thank you guys!
p.s. I'm quite sure that android gb 2.3.3 came with sense 2.1 while gb 2.3.5 came with sense 3.0
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You will have to unlock the bootloader using the procedure at HTCDEV.com. After that, you can use an unsecured boot.img to boot your phone and then modify the phone's version-main so that you can then flash the older GB 2.3.3/Sense 2.1 RUU.

tpbklake said:
You will have to unlock the bootloader using the procedure at HTCDEV.com. After that, you can use an unsecured boot.img to boot your phone and then modify the phone's version-main so that you can then flash the older GB 2.3.3/Sense 2.1 RUU.
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Its as simple as that? unlock through htcdev and flash on older RUU? That would also work with a phone unlocked with an xtc clip right?

m82a1 said:
Its as simple as that? unlock through htcdev and flash on older RUU? That would also work with a phone unlocked with an xtc clip right?
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No, you misread the post.
1. Unlock the bootloader using HTCDEV.com
2. Boot your phone using an unsecured boot.img
3. Modify the version-main value.
4. Flash a RUU.
If you have a IncS that has S-OFF via XTC Clip, then you can simply modify the version-main value and then flash a RUU.

tpbklake said:
No, you misread the post.
1. Unlock the bootloader using HTCDEV.com
2. Boot your phone using an unsecured boot.img
3. Modify the version-main value.
4. Flash a RUU.
If you have a IncS that has S-OFF via XTC Clip, then you can simply modify the version-main value and then flash a RUU.
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Gotcha, good to know, thanks!

well.. thank you for showing interest in my thread.
I understand that is not possible to downgrade without at least unlocking the bootloader..
so.. flashing a RUU is the same as flashing a custom rom?
After unlocking the bootloader I have to:
- flash a custom recovery
- flash a RUU/custom rom?
mmm.. is it really possible to install an older version of android while keeping the hboot at version 2.02 (like mine)?
I don't understand what is an "unsecured boot.img" and what "Modify the version-main value" means..
thank you again

seba_t said:
well.. thank you for showing interest in my thread.
I understand that is not possible to downgrade without at least unlocking the bootloader..
so.. flashing a RUU is the same as flashing a custom rom?
After unlocking the bootloader I have to:
- flash a custom recovery
- flash a RUU/custom rom?
mmm.. is it really possible to install an older version of android while keeping the hboot at version 2.02 (like mine)?
I don't understand what is an "unsecured boot.img" and what "Modify the version-main value" means..
thank you again
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Look at the Downgrade script sticky post and then download the Downgrade Kit zip file and take a look at it.
The script file has all of the functions you need. One the script is done, you should be able to run the RUU.

U have to relock the bootloader then run the ruu file (the one u choose) while the phone is in fastboot mode
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Is it possible to flash Android 2.3.3 Rom on 2+ hboot?
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Silversniper said:
Is it possible to flash Android 2.3.3 Rom on 2+ hboot?
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Yes it is. You can use the downgrade script to reset your version-main so that you can flash the 2.3.3 RUU.

tpbklake said:
Look at the Downgrade script sticky post and then download the Downgrade Kit zip file and take a look at it.
The script file has all of the functions you need. One the script is done, you should be able to run the RUU.
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Are you talking about this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697
or this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337105
or more probably this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1761319
If you point me to the thread where I can find the Nonverbose's Downgrade script and the Downgrade kit I will be grateful...
Thank you!

seba_t said:
Are you talking about this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697
or this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337105
or more probably this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1761319
If you point me to the thread where I can find the Nonverbose's Downgrade script and the Downgrade kit I will be grateful...
Thank you!
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The first thread you posted is the one you want.

tpbklake said:
The first thread you posted is the one you want.
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Thank you tpblake! I'll try to follow that guide asap