I bought a SDXC 64gb SanDisk micro mini memory card for $100+ tax. I followed instructions and got an error message about the card being damaged. I was supposed to ignore and format and it anyway and it should be recognized. It wasn't. I had trouble (lots of it) (transfering 25gb takes awhile)until I found this link:
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=33424.0 How to use SDXC and rockbox. (In my case anyway.)
You won't get the speeds and performance of the SDXC, but you get the space. I needed it cause of the many flac files I have. Have fun, I am.
Just curious...but why do you have so many flac files?
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Just curious...but why do you have so many flac files?
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Music files..? Ripping a cd at 192kbps compared to 320kbps is a noticeable difference. Flac music files bitrates are anywhere from 854kbps up to 1038kbps+ To my ears, the inner music quality, transients, in the background of the music, is present in the flac files. Superior quality and listening pleasure. PS seems
to be a noticeable difference with the SDXC, a little quicker
maybe is because the XT860 Card slot support up to 32GB max.
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Music files..? Ripping a cd at 192kbps compared to 320kbps is a noticeable difference. Flac music files bitrates are anywhere from 854kbps up to 1038kbps+ To my ears, the inner music quality, transients, in the background of the music, is present in the flac files. Superior quality and listening pleasure. PS seems
to be a noticeable difference with the SDXC, a little quicker
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I'm sorry but you won't be able to hear the difference between 320kbps variable MP3 and a flac on your droid 3 with normal headset.
Either you're using a wrong encoder or wrong source files.
Use 320 VBR not constant.
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So your question was just a bait to give your opinion about what I can or cannot hear? You must be really bored. Maybe the fact is YOU can't hear the difference and your projecting that so to protect your short comings? You may want to ASK a question instead of what ever it is your trying to say.? PS REread my reply to your question cause I don't think you understoodwhat I wrote. And try to have manners up to your "Senior" statis>
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So your question was just a bait to give your opinion about what I can or cannot hear? You must be really bored. Maybe the fact is YOU can't hear the difference and your projecting that so to protect your short comings? You may want to ASK a question instead of what ever it is your trying to say.? PS REread my reply to your question cause I don't think you understoodwhat I wrote. And try to have manners up to your "Senior" statis>
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No, YOU cannot hear it either. You THINK you hear it (placebo) OR you don't know how to encode your files.
Even if you would be a audiophile and was even able to hear the difference, you would never be able to hear it via a droid 3 and headphones.
Try 320kbps VBR from the source file with a proper encoder.
Guys why the argument about audio quality the question was about using an SDXC card. Plain and simple flac is able to proudce higher frequencies. Uncompressed WAV, which is the same as a CDFS, will contain upto 20kHz, high quality mp3 will maybe get 16 or 18kHz because of the compression. A violin or cymbals has sounds way beyond what an mp3 is capable of, but will be heard with flac or wav. While flac is still compressed it IS better than any mp3. In either format higher frequencies can be reproduced with say a, harmonizer or by changing the phase . Like my audio receiver has some type of "filter" to help reproduce what is lost with compressed audio but will never be the same as the original. Any modern headphones and headphone ouput are able to produce the higher spectrum of frequencies, including the Droid 3.
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Guys why the argument about audio quality the question was about using an SDXC card. Plain and simple flac is able to proudce higher frequencies. Uncompressed WAV, which is the same as a CDFS, will contain upto 20kHz, high quality mp3 will maybe get 16 or 18kHz because of the compression. A violin or cymbals has sounds way beyond what an mp3 is capable of, but will be heard with flac or wav. While flac is still compressed it IS better than any mp3. In either format higher frequencies can be reproduced with say a, harmonizer or by changing the phase . Like my audio receiver has some type of "filter" to help reproduce what is lost with compressed audio but will never be the same as the original. Any modern headphones and headphone ouput are able to produce the higher spectrum of frequencies, including the Droid 3.
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I'm not saying MP3 V0 is the same as a FLAC file. Sure, if you go and use a frequency analyser you will find that the MP3 might be weaker above 16k hz.
However with normal headset and droid 3 you will not easily hear the difference..especially since the ear will not pick up such small differences at such high frequency.. maybe if you're 10 years old and have perfect ears.
Not to mention most music will never make much use of 16k> frequency.
But be my guest and waste GBs of space by using FLAC
Even in the face of overwhelming facts some brains cannot grasp ideas much less facts , outside their world. There seems to be a movement of ignorance, as in fashionable. Some people seem to be locked in a dual of out stupefying eachother. The phone carriers are a good example of this. The things that come out of their mouths is devoid any reasoning that covers more than a handful of like minds. Its really sad that our site is not untouched by this epidemic. I believe my part is to supply truthful information, less I declare "IMO" (or I think). Have a nice day.
Guys shut up about the FLAC argument already. No one else cares and it is completely irrelevant to the thread. If you guys want to debate about it take it to PM or something.
On topic question: what kind of read/write speed are you getting with the sdxc card formatted using this method? What is its original speed?
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I have not been using bench type apps since before D3 CM9. CM7 I had scores above 3K. Quadrant Standard score: 2658 * CPU 4824 * Mem.1650 *I/O 4583 * 2D 269 * 3D 2023 with the SDXC. I could not use the SDXC unless it was formatted in fat32. If there is an app more specific in benching read/write let me know. I wound up with 59.45gb after formatting.
Well if I could convince him to NOT use FLAC he wouldn't have this problem in the first place..and it would be fixed, right?
Just did a google and here's a topic about it, I suggest you guys read it:
http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/759772-flac-vs-320kbps/
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No, YOU cannot hear it either. You THINK you hear it (placebo) OR you don't know how to encode your files.
Even if you would be a audiophile and was even able to hear the difference, you would never be able to hear it via a droid 3 and headphones.
Try 320kbps VBR from the source file with a proper encoder.
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wow you are stubborn beats audio engine a placebo too? i have 2 pairs of decent headphones aka not 500$ but yes you can hear the difference between a flac and mp3. both mp3 and flacs of their songs test em http://bit.ly/IxgcNc
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also people who use crappy headphone wana hear crappy sound? or just dont care and wouldnt be here?
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wow you are stubborn beats audio engine a placebo too? i have 2 pairs of decent headphones aka not 500$ but yes you can hear the difference between a flac and mp3. both mp3 and flacs of their songs test em http://bit.ly/IxgcNc
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also people who use crappy headphone wana hear crappy sound? or just dont care and wouldnt be here?
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Only that whole topic I linked agrees with me.. and I'm stubborn??
Gimme the FLAC and MP3 then
Oh my god.....really guys?
I doubt Droid 3 can reproduce some of the frequencies a flac file can have. That being said, thanks for the tip about the sdxc!
Rocking with my M3 and XDA app
Thanks for the lulz.
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I was just curious about the sound quality of the Blue Angel. Many say that the Blue Angel's sound quality is very poor, when compared with Ipod. Please give your opinions and give suggetions to improve the sound quality of Blue Angel.
I am happy to listen mp3 on ba
BA can sound awesome. It is all in the headphones ou use. The vanilla headphones which come with it are average to good, but not great.
if you want GOOD sound, you have 3 options:
1) go to ebay and find an adapter to use headphones with standard plugs in the BA, as the BA has this special phone plug which is smaller. I have one of these adapters, it also comes with a button to initiate and terminate phone calls.
2) go to ebay and get yourself a blueclip, which is a bluetooth 'headset' without phones. you can plug whichever headphone (with a standard jack) you want in this one.
3) get a good stereo bluetooth headset.
1) and 2) are cheaper than 3), but require a wired headphone. The good on them is that you can choose a GOOD headphone (the ones which cost more than $10) to couple with the adapter. Depending on the headphone you choose, you might spend as much as in 3), but you will get the best possible sound going this way.
or do what i did and open up the inline controls/mic on the vanilla one, desolder the crap buds and solder on the buds from a decent set (i used some panasonic ones) amazing sound quality, beats any ipod/mp3 ive tried.
BA sounds great its a question of the sampling of the mp3
The sound of the BA is actually fairly decent (even without headphones). But I will agree with Midget and BrazilianJoe. The better your headset, the better the sound quality.
Thank You for Responses
Its very great idea to improve the Blue Angel's sound quality rather than going for Ipod. I'm on it thank you every one for your suggetions.
well, if you use the DSP ported from an ipaq, you can actually increase the bass and treble levels, which provides amazing sound even on the default pair of earphones
I have included it..just unzip it and use file explorer to put it somewhere(somewhere in the start menu)
I unzipped ur dsp and man the sound is awesome!! thanks Kamal.any more tweeks like this for enhancing the display?
thanks a million.
mukund
I think both the sound quality of them are poor. To improve the sound quality,you can buy a good headphone,such as Shure E2C or B&O A8,and download FLAC instead of MP3s.FLAC has a high quality,you can play it with PocketPlayer.
I prefer some MP3 players which have high sound quality or Hi-MD player to iPod.Like iAudio,iRiver and Kenwood,these brands' MP3 players have better sound quality.
BTW,you have to buy an adapter if you want to buy a good headphone.
i use pocket music(work like win amp).
but still use the dsp..
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yinfo said:
I think both the sound quality of them are poor. To improve the sound quality,you can buy a good headphone,such as Shure E2C or B&O A8,and download FLAC instead of MP3s.FLAC has a high quality,you can play it with PocketPlayer.
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FLAC is a bit extreme; the amplifier in the phone blows goats and is very poor quality. Anything above mp3 160kbps is a waste on this phone IMHO. Most people cannot tell the difference between 160kbps on a blind sound test using decompressed tracks on CD. I can, but only on a decent system which the Blue Angel aint! ;-)
(iPod's sound is pretty poor as well however)
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Thank you kdskamal this works great!
By Far
The BA is by far a better choice vs the iPod.
Like the others have said, quality will depend on how the file was encoded and the hardware used to listen to the output.
Its my:
Cell Phone
Internet Phone
Internet Browser
MP3 Player
Email CLient
GPS reciever
Tasks, appointment, calendar, contacts, notes
PDF Viewer
Picture Viewer
Excel, Word, Powerpoint
AIM, Sype, MSM
with WiFi, BT, and IR
All with voice recognition.
So far beyond what the ipod is: Phone, MP3 player, and PDA in one.
BA vs Ipod? why not make BA as your ipod
I agree from above statement that BA functions covers all the ipod function and in addition to that why not make your BA looks more like ipdod when playing your favorite mp3. I have attached a skin for the window media player to make it looks like ipod. just unzip it to the windows media player skin folder then change the skin at the skin choosr option.
I am not quite good in testing sound quality but I am using ordinary earphone on my BA. The origina earphones of my BA was already broken and the sound quality is drasticaly ugly. So I cut the wires, throw the ear piece and mic and just used its 2.5 mm male jack and attach it to a 3.5 mm female jack so I can use high quality ear phone made by Sony or any other good manufacturers.
I have tried buying those ready made adopter 2.5 mm to 3.5 mm jack for PDA's, it does'nt work for the BA. Because BA's configuration is similar with nokia phone. So if your planning to buy a ready made adopter so you can use your existing head sets try to get those nokia compatible.
apple should stick to software
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FLAC is a bit extreme; the amplifier in the phone blows goats and is very poor quality. Anything above mp3 160kbps is a waste on this phone IMHO. Most people cannot tell the difference between 160kbps on a blind sound test using decompressed tracks on CD. I can, but only on a decent system which the Blue Angel aint! ;-)
(iPod's sound is pretty poor as well however)
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Macintels benchmark OS_X faster than true macs!
Apple is way over-priced everyone knows that, so much money for such entry level hardware. I think we all know Apple cuts corners just like M$.. who the heck would buy a $300 ipod just to listen to music or, when you can buy a great PPC/smartphone for less, that does everything besides go down on you!
If apple made a true ppc though i'd try it too bad they'd charge like $500 for something that resembles a bar of soap with a screen.
Steven ballmer said it best... "I, love, this...company!" haha
developers, developers, developers, developers!
let's not forget that ipod probably has Digital Right Management system in place, while TCMP on BA will piss on DRM and its owners.
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let's not forget that ipod probably has Digital Right Management system in place
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The correct term is "Digital Restrictions Management". It has nothing to do with your rights other than taking them away. Please encorage people to use the correct term instead of the double-think marketing lingo.
Kalonian said:
Thank you kdskamal this works great!
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Wow! Thanks everybody )
kdskamal said:
well, if you use the DSP ported from an ipaq, you can actually increase the bass and treble levels, which provides amazing sound even on the default pair of earphones
I have included it..just unzip it and use file explorer to put it somewhere(somewhere in the start menu)
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Have you another version? Doesn't work on hX4705 WM 6 rev 4
so here's my issue. it seems the video player itself has issues displaying 1920x1080 video. 1280x720 works fine, same video. same bitrate, same everything. this seems crocked.
do we know of any workaround for getting a 1080p to work. i've heard of people pulling it off, but i've spent three hours on this and i really believe it to be the player. i've tried third party clients and they're about 5fps. it's irksome.
help plz?
You know we have two different video players right? We have video player, and we also have movie player or something else like that. Try it.
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What do you expect to get from playing such large videos on the Cappy? I transcode mine to 720X480 in .mkv and they are simply stunning with zero playback issues. The Cappy supports the low end HD resolution of 1280X720, not the Blu-Ray rez of 1920X1080. And it supports that rez in shooting video so that it can be played back on a larger screen. There's no benefit to playing back videos that size on the device. Resize them, you won't notice any difference in picture quality and you'll save a ton of storage space.
I have 315 bluray movies half are 1080p other is 720p so half of my media is watchable on my cappy and my tab. I use Tversity to stream to my ps3 and everything but if there was away to make it only transcode 720p to mobile devices or have a player that will resize it for us that would be awesome.
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May be more of a codec problem than anything else.
While I never put anything bigger than 720p on my phone (since 1080p has no appreciable visual increase in quality on the phone screen, but a MUCH larger file size), I definitely have played 1080p on my phone before. Hence why I think it may simply be that 1080p MKV w/ certain codecs might not work. Remember that media files *legally* downloaded from the internet will often have slight variations in the parameters used when converting to MKV w/ x264/VC1/etc codec. Hence just because 2 files are "720p x264" in a Matroska container doesn't mean they are actually identically encoded. And the Galaxy S can sometimes be a bit picky about what formats it "automagically" supports and which it doesn't.
And by the way, as you clearly noticed, the "Video Player" app in Android is the only one to use the GPU to accelerate video playback. Other apps might work, but they will run the CPU way harder, and give you worse battery life. Monitoring the "time_in_state" to see what the CPU is running at, I can play 720p x264/MKV files with the CPU at only 400 MHz. Obviously, sometimes the default player won't play what you want, but it's much better to use it if at all possible.
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And by the way, as you clearly noticed, the "Video Player" app in Android is the only one to use the GPU to accelerate video playback. Other apps might work, but they will run the CPU way harder, and give you worse battery life. Monitoring the "time_in_state" to see what the CPU is running at, I can play 720p x264/MKV files with the CPU at only 400 MHz. Obviously, sometimes the default player won't play what you want, but it's much better to use it if at all possible.
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This is the main reason I stick with the built-in player. I was on a flight from Ft. Lauderdale to St. Louis to L.A. on Tuesday and I watched 3 movies of close to six hours total length. Landed in L.A. with 31% battery still remaining.
my reasons for wanting to play 1080p is irrelevant to the scenario, i'd just like to see it done.
i considered a codec issue shammy, but i extracted a 60second sample from my crank copy and left it in 1920x1080mkv and tried it. no dice. i handbraked it to 1920x1080mp4 no dice. i once again handbraked it to 1280x720mp4. worked fantastical without any change in any settings except res. hence why i think its a limitation on res rather than codec/bitrate.
i am just IRKED all around at this. time to hit the irc and start screaming at people until somebody gives me an answer huh lmfao
Square peg, round hole. Hope you find a big enough hammer.
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my reasons for wanting to play 1080p is irrelevant to the scenario, i'd just like to see it done.
i considered a codec issue shammy, but i extracted a 60second sample from my crank copy and left it in 1920x1080mkv and tried it. no dice. i handbraked it to 1920x1080mp4 no dice. i once again handbraked it to 1280x720mp4. worked fantastical without any change in any settings except res. hence why i think its a limitation on res rather than codec/bitrate.
i am just IRKED all around at this. time to hit the irc and start screaming at people until somebody gives me an answer huh lmfao
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Yea man I feel ya, why should you convert your movie to a realistic resolution for a 4" screen when you can ***** at other people to make it work. Doing anything yourself is for chumps.
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Its nice to be able to play 1080p why convert all your media when your ps3 and Xbox can play it at that size. Don't wish to lose quality on my other devices
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maxjivi05 said:
Its nice to be able to play 1080p why convert all your media when your ps3 and Xbox can play it at that size. Don't wish to lose quality on my other devices
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How do you lose quality by resizing for the device you'll be playing on? All those extra pixels of HD resolution on a 800X420 screen do not yield better quality, they just require more CPU/GPU to process and more storage space. Nothing is gained by playing HD-sized videos on the Cappy. Absolutely nothing.
I own a small HD video production company in L.A., but don't take my word for it.
I was talking about playing the same media file from my Ps3 on my tv. I'd rather not convert my 1080p files to 720 just for my hand held I'd rather have a better way to do all of it using the files I currently have. Tversity works good but not perfect for over 3G but when I had my iPhone it would play pretty good using airvideo over 3G but there has to be something to make it all work
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cerjam said:
my reasons for wanting to play 1080p is irrelevant to the scenario, i'd just like to see it done.
i considered a codec issue shammy, but i extracted a 60second sample from my crank copy and left it in 1920x1080mkv and tried it. no dice. i handbraked it to 1920x1080mp4 no dice. i once again handbraked it to 1280x720mp4. worked fantastical without any change in any settings except res. hence why i think its a limitation on res rather than codec/bitrate.
i am just IRKED all around at this. time to hit the irc and start screaming at people until somebody gives me an answer huh lmfao
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It would be nice to be able to do this I suppose..but if you don't mind...Why ?
If you play it on any other thing but your phone..you will not really benefit from having it this way..and also..you won't really have enough storage to hold it to be able to watch a full featured film.
Until Samsung gets off their asses and fixes the issue with making the usb-hdmi cable you will never get the output capable of seeing any difference than what you can easily do right now at 720p...If you want to ***** about something...that is what I would ***** about..They had those cables available for 1 month..and not many was ever shipped out to the stores when they introduced the phone...I've e-mailed them every week since October and the only reply is they are working on it...so...I'm not holding my breath on seeing it anytime soon since they are working on the next line of phones already..
Mac
i'll probably get xbanned by the-equinoxe for this post, but it'll be worth it.
Clienterror:
I was doing my best to not "*****" at you "other people". If I wanted to ***** i'd be obviously *****ing, not laughing about it. How about I send you my 12TB of video and you can convert it all into 480p, would that suffice for you? since you have such an issue with what I do with my device and provide absolutely no helpful solution, you do it! I sure hope you have couple dual 12core opterons sitting around, because it's gonna take you awhile. currently, encoding crank.mkv time remaining: 1h5m. now realistically i'd never convert my entire collection, just whatever video I want to watch at the time. but guess what? When i'm leaving or doing something I do not have an hour to wait. It's almost faster to download a 480p copy, you realize that right. converting while dealing with 1080p is not fast, nowhere near it. I find it unlikely you have any experience in the matter, i'm sure i've put more time and effort into this than your useless 30 second out of line response, so "chump" take the attitude and leave my thread please.
Miami_Son:
Time is gained. something new and fun is gained, every dev and intelligent person i've talked to(i'm a regular in the irc, im sure .. i've ran into a few) has tried it. Just because your personal opinion you see no reason or purpose to it, does not mean others see it that way. and not to be an ass here, but I find it surprising anybody who owns a company relating to high definition video would refer to resolution as rez.
Mac11700:
Why? Because I can. Everyone should want to do. You all see me trying to play 1080 on my phone as insane, and to me it's insane for you to NOT want to watch it on your device. I wont have enough space? i've got 32gb in my galaxys, i can fit three 1080ps. I am not stupid, and you all should not assume I am.
it's very irky that you all jump on a question without any real input on the scenario, except for the basic obvious simplest answer which really isnt helpful to the situation rather than putting in some thought and trying to solve the issue.
now: has ANYONE else made any progress with it. any input regarding 1080p on the galaxys could help solve this issue. please and thank you.
alright ive been doing some more fiddling and came up wiht the following results.
using container mkv, and AVC as codec.
i started with 1920x1080 crank 60s sample gone through handbrake reducing it to about 6mb.
1920x1080 through
1282x726 do not play. at all. unknown file.
1280x720 and below play without issue, and play damn well.
the file is exactly the same codec and container, just resized. so i believe it to be an issue with the player.
http://cerjturb.net/u/crank_test_1080p.mkv
does this play on ANYONES device inside video player.
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Miami_Son:
Time is gained. something new and fun is gained, every dev and intelligent person i've talked to(i'm a regular in the irc, im sure .. i've ran into a few) has tried it. Just because your personal opinion you see no reason or purpose to it, does not mean others see it that way. and not to be an ass here, but I find it surprising anybody who owns a company relating to high definition video would refer to resolution as rez.
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Ooh, my internet shorthand has revealed me as a fraud. You got me.
Your insistence on trying to play HD videos larger than what the device is designed for brought to mind a good analogy. You sound like a guy who bought a nice sports car and is appalled at finding out he can't run it in the Indy 500.
cerjam said:
1920x1080 through
1282x726 do not play. at all. unknown file.
1280x720 and below play without issue, and play damn well.
the file is exactly the same codec and container, just resized. so i believe it to be an issue with the player.
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Could it possibly be that your video is simply beyond what the player and/or the device is designed to handle? Square peg, round hole, I say. 1280x720 is indeed within the scope of the HD specification, so there is no fraud in saying the device can play HD content. It just can't play the high end of the HD spectrum. Live with it or get another device.
He's just trying to find away to not reconvert 3,000 hours of videos... if there was away for the computer to transcode to 720p to the device but leave it 1080p for the ps3 but not make 2 files for one video.... how hard is it to want that??? Tversity works for that but it don't detect the device as a mobile device that wants 720p it either does 1080 or goes way low and looks like crap... we want it to do both 720p for they device Ans 1080p for the ps3 at the same time.
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He's just trying to find away to not reconvert 3,000 hours of videos... if there was away for the computer to transcode to 720p to the device but leave it 1080p for the ps3 but not make 2 files for one video.... how hard is it to want that??? Tversity works for that but it don't detect the device as a mobile device that wants 720p it either does 1080 or goes way low and looks like crap... we want it to do both 720p for they device Ans 1080p for the ps3 at the same time.
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I understand that, but it's like complaining that his old tube TV won't display HD signals. Or that his DVD player won't play BD discs. It just wasn't designed to do it. For a device to transcode 1080p to 720p on the fly would require a lot more horsepower than what the Captivate has under the hood. Accept and move on.
First, I understand why you want this; it's a matter of convenience and I don't blame you.
cerjam said:
the file is exactly the same codec and container, just resized. so i believe it to be an issue with the player.
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It may be the same codec and container, but what is the bitrate? A lot more data may have to be pumped through the i/o system and larger frames are going to have to be resampled. I'm not saying it is impossible on the hardware, but it might be. I seriously doubt that it's just a matter of some bug, oversight, or intentional disabling of 1080p without good reason.
For ex. i take flac audio file and write with different software. Will quality of music differ if i write with diffrent software? Or will alls the cds be the same? Maybe ones will start playing faster or does it depend what cds i buy?
Fast answer or even link would be great!
Why don't you try it and find out?
Sent from your mom.
Any half decent disc burning software and discs will be fine. Try CDBurnerXP:
http://cdburnerxp.se/en/home
Maybe someone have good advice. I'm burning CDs flac extension to listen in my car. I think i need to search this kind of info in forums where everyone is mad about audio quality. LoL
I'm considering picking up this phone and I've seen quite a few claims that if you disabling Beats will "replace the beats profile with one that reduces audio quality" instead.
Anyone confirm/deny this? If it's true, does it make a large difference? Are there any ways (Custom ROM, kernel, etc..) that fixes this problem?
PLEASE NOTE: I do not want comments on how the beats audio sounds better than anything else - I want comments on if turning it OFF will degrade the sound quality as some people claim.
It sounds better with beats audio but it sounds great with it off as well.
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There's no need to turn it off the quality of audio with beats is amazing!
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There's no need to turn it off the quality of audio with beats is amazing!
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It sounds better with beats audio but it sounds great with it off as well.
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Sounds better is subjective. WHY does it sound better? Explain!
With my taste in music I want a "bright" sound with pretty controlled and laid back bass. I do consider myself quite enthusiastic about good sound quality and honestly, afaik Beats sounds, to me, the entire opposite of what I think is good sound quality.
Anyone can explain to me how the sound quality compares to any other phone they've used?
imho, it seems just making the volume louder, but cannot hear much difference... would anyone advise me if there is some kind of settings/ EQ etc? I can't find that... thanks
Timmyfoxeh said:
Sounds better is subjective. WHY does it sound better? Explain!
With my taste in music I want a "bright" sound with pretty controlled and laid back bass. I do consider myself quite enthusiastic about good sound quality and honestly, afaik Beats sounds, to me, the entire opposite of what I think is good sound quality.
Anyone can explain to me how the sound quality compares to any other phone they've used?
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AFAIK Beat is an active equaliser, meaning that it adjusts to the audio input so that the output isn't distorted and sounds as good as it can on a software level, sure you can create sound like this with an EQ, but then you may have to create sound profiles for ever genre rather than just playing it, but for the record it creates better sound quality which is consistent with all music types that i've tried it with. (magic )
Bass is stronger, delivering a crisper yet softer bass as opposed to a punchy crackle which you'll find on other handsets, trebles are fair and i've heard much louder but in terms of actual clarity it's right up there with the best, mid levels are decent too, so if you want a treble sounding phone then this isn't for you, but for everything else and for the whole package this is where it's at.
I'm referring to the sound that the phone itself delivers, if you were to couple this with a decent set of headphones (i got a pair of solo beats for free with my phone from carphone warehouse, i think they've sold out now) the sound is phenomenal, for picking up and playing a song it is second to none, not the galaxy s4 nor any of the other top of the range handsets can compare to it, the reason for this is because HTC has obviously done it's homework for the audio part of the system and used it as a major selling point.
I'm by no means a music enthusiast but i love them and several of my friends who are music enthusiasts (some producers and DJ's) have said that the sound is superb, obviously not as good as a studio but lets not forget that this is a phone that we're talking about here and for what it is it won't be beaten.
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AFAIK Beat is an active equaliser
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Yep, thus meaning the sound signature should be rather inconsistent as it changes from song to song, right?
dladz said:
Bass is stronger
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That's exactly what I do not want when using my Sennheiser headphones.
Boosting the bass gives a sound signature I really do not like too much. I want it to be balanced and rather a bit laid back as opposed to strong and, imo, overpowering. Bright and detailed with a wide soundstage is more my cup of tea.
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Can I remind you all that my question isn't about how the beats profile sounds like but just if the sound quality does noticeably degrade (even compared to other phones) when you DISABLE it?
Timmyfoxeh said:
Yep, thus meaning the sound signature should be rather inconsistent as it changes from song to song, right?
That's exactly what I do not want when using my Sennheiser headphones.
Boosting the bass gives a sound signature I really do not like too much. I want it to be balanced and rather a bit laid back as opposed to strong and, imo, overpowering. Bright and detailed with a wide soundstage is more my cup of tea.
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Can I remind you all that my question isn't about how the beats profile sounds like but just if the sound quality does noticeably degrade (even compared to other phones) when you DISABLE it?
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Sounds like your already dead set against it, why don't you go down to a shop with your headphones and try it out, sorry but I'm not going to delve Into how I feel about the sound quality anymore, this thread and your responses are about as predantic as it gets. I tried to give you a detailed explanation and my experience of the sound on top of other people whom I know.
You don't appear to want to hear that so get one and try it for yourself.
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Sounds like your already dead set against it, why don't you go down to a shop with your headphones and try it out, sorry but I'm not going to delve Into how I feel about the sound quality anymore, this thread and your responses are about as predantic as it gets. I tried to give you a detailed explanation and my experience of the sound on top of other people whom I know.
You don't appear to want to hear that so get one and try it for yourself.
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None of these replies have answered my question about it though. so let me rephase:
I've seen several reviews claim that this phone use 2 different profiles for Beats audio;
1. The ON profile which activates the "enhancement"
2. The OFF profile which, rather than just deactivating beats audio, will reduce the sound quality below that of what the DAC is capable of.
Now may I have any comments relevant to this question (rather than just saying the sound quality of this phone is good or bad).
Also, not all stores here allow you to try out the phones like so unfortunately.
EDIT: Thanks to the LinusTechTips forum I found this video which pretty much explains what I've been saying: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdbn_pmxFic
Timmyfoxeh said:
Sounds better is subjective. WHY does it sound better? Explain!
With my taste in music I want a "bright" sound with pretty controlled and laid back bass. I do consider myself quite enthusiastic about good sound quality and honestly, afaik Beats sounds, to me, the entire opposite of what I think is good sound quality.
Anyone can explain to me how the sound quality compares to any other phone they've used?
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I think it's much clearer, and s bit louder. But clearer. I used to have an HTC sensation, where in the middle of your video or music you had a toggle to turn off Beats. And trust me, there is a difference. I even record university lectures on it, and beats tunes out the background noise and boosts that of the speaker. It does wonders . But you can always get the phone and turn off Beats and download an equalizer from the pay store.
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We're missing a critical piece of information from you : do you primarily listen through the phone's speakers or use headphones? Given that you don't seem to have a One yet (and thus have normal phone speakers which are pretty terrible ) you probably use headphones. The reason this is critical (and why the whole situation is kind of irrelevant) is because when using the phone speakers turning the enhancement off does make it sound worse IMO. However, if you're using headphones, turning it off makes it sound better assuming you have a decent pair of course. I don't know if you're like me and prefer a natural base level over an artificially high one, but if you are then you can just turn off beats and let the headphones do the work and it will sound just as good as using any other portable audio player out there. See why it's all irrelevant now? You can turn it on to use it when it's good and off when it's not, and if you personally feel that it's never good, then you can just turn it off and rely only on the hardware which is just as good as any other portable source.
So take home points (I'll keep them simple and clear) :
1. Yes it sounds worse if you turn off beats when using the phone's speakers.
2. It does sound better to those looking for a more natural sound profile to turn off beats when using a pair of quality headphones.
3. Turning off beats does not seem to activate an "intentionally low quality profile." That wouldn't make any sense, it's just a tweaked equalizer...
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We're missing a critical piece of information from you : do you primarily listen through the phone's speakers or use headphones? Given that you don't seem to have a One yet (and thus have normal phone speakers which are pretty terrible ) you probably use headphones (you mention in passing a pair of sens). The reason this is critical (and why the whole situation is kind of irrelevant) is because when using the phone speakers turning the enhancement off does make it sound worse IMO. However, if you're using headphones, turning it off makes it sound better assuming you have a decent pair of course. I don't know if you're like me and prefer a natural base level over an artificially high one, but if you are then you can just turn off beats and let the headphones do the work and it will sound just as good as using any other portable audio player out there. See why it's all irrelevant now? You can turn it on to use it when it's good and off when it's not, and if you personally feel that it's never good, then you can just turn it off and rely only on the hardware which is just as good as any other portable source.
So take home points (I'll keep them simple and clear) :
1. Yes it sounds worse if you turn off beats when using the phone's speakers.
2. It does sound better to those looking for a more natural sound profile to turn off beats when using a pair of quality headphones.
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Thanks for a good and detailed response - This is the kind of reply I was looking for!
Also. good to see an opinion from someone that seemingly have a similar taste in sound signature as I do.
Yep I'm thinking of the headphone performance indeed, speakers I usually don't care too much about, I can see why they seemingly optimized the speakers for use with the beats turned on.
Another thing to mention, I'm coming from the Galaxy Nexus which has a rather decent DAC. Nothing spectacular but decent enough. If you have any comments on the SQ difference between the One and the Gnex or any similar devices, do post them.
Timmyfoxeh said:
Thanks for a good and detailed response - This is the kind of reply I was looking for!
Also. good to see an opinion from someone that seemingly have a similar taste in sound signature as I do.
Yep I'm thinking of the headphone performance indeed, speakers I usually don't care too much about, I can see why they seemingly optimized the speakers for use with the beats turned on.
Another thing to mention, I'm coming from the Galaxy Nexus which has a rather decent DAC. Nothing spectacular but decent enough. If you have any comments on the SQ difference between the One and the Gnex or any similar devices, do post them.
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Happy to help!
For practicality reasons I too usually use headphones. I'm sorry I've never had a galaxy line phone to compare to. But if you think about it theoretically, you're going to be playing mp3 files in all likelihood. Hopefully they're 320kbps at least, but still mp3s. At this level of listening comparing one source to another is pretty difficult I think; there's just too much compression already. Which is why I think contrasting portable audio source quality is a moot point, it depends more on the headphones. But fortunately you need to get up into the thousands of dollars in equipment to decern the finer details anyway.
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Xerro-Five said:
Happy to help!
For practicality reasons I too usually use headphones. I'm sorry I've never had a galaxy line phone to compare to. But if you think about it theoretically, you're going to be playing mp3 files in all likelihood. Hopefully they're 320kbps at least, but still mp3s. At this level of listening comparing one source to another is pretty difficult I think; there's just too much compression already. Which is why I think contrasting portable audio source quality is a moot point, it depends more on the headphones. But fortunately you need to get up into the thousands of dollars in equipment to decern the finer details anyway.
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Actually most of my collection is ripped in flac ^^
My setup at home is a far better source than any phone can produce, not super high end but still a good setup.
Nonetheless, I care for having a decent enough audio source from my phone as a large portion of my music listening is when away from home and I don't want to carry a ton of portable equipment and media players when I can have it all done from my phone.
Timmyfoxeh said:
Actually most of my collection is ripped in flac ^^
My setup at home is a far better source than any phone can produce, not super high end but still a good setup.
Nonetheless, I care for having a decent enough audio source from my phone as a large portion of my music listening is when away from home and I don't want to carry a ton of portable equipment and media players when I can have it all done from my phone.
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Oh nice, that's excellent! The thought of re-ripping all of mine is just to daunting...
From what I've read elsewhere on xda the One handles flac pretty well.
There's a lot of neat information here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/655952/htc-one
Page 2 will be especially interesting to you as someone had the Galaxy s and htc One.
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Oh nice, that's excellent! The thought of re-ripping all of mine is just to daunting...
From what I've read elsewhere on xda the One handles flac pretty well.
There's a lot of neat information here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/655952/htc-one
Page 2 will be especially interesting to you as someone had the Galaxy s and htc One.
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Sorry meant galaxy nexus
Howdy All,
For those who have had a LG V device in the past you'all know what's coming - how do we trick the quad DAC into high impedance mode (HIM) or AUX mode?
For those who don't know here's a little background. The previous LG V series phones have had a very nice DAC and AMP setup which can almost meet the standards of audiophile quality. The thing was that in the later phones (V20 and V30 AFAIR) the software was designed to "smart switch" which mode the AMP was in. HIM and AUX mode settings had the loudest volumes and was corresponding to the headphone impedance value. The normal setting had the lowest volume designed for low impedance IEMs. Note that the AMP setting doesn't really have a bearing on sound QUALITY, just sound VOLUME. I'm guessing but the reasoning for this is to prevent blown IEMs and blown eardrums. I'm going to find the link for the old V30 quad DAC thread and some stuff tried and what worked in order to activate AUX mode and/or HIM. BTW having ROOT on the phone allows for adjusting this setting as needed, which is why I went with the unlocked version this time around. My pair of MrSpeakers Aeon Flows have low impedance but need power in order to drive properly and the AMP in the V series phones would only trigger normal impedance mode.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/modes-quad-dac-t3690567
So that brings us to the V40. Does it have a quad DAC? Yes it does. Does it have a smart switching AMP? So far my indications are yes it does. Do the old tricks from the V30 days work on the V40? I don't think that they do. I have multiple extension cables, which I use for triggering the AUX mode as well as an impedance adapter (50ohms I think). The old methods of using the extension cable, the adapter, and both don't seem to have an effect on the AMP setting. My Sony MDR-1As are much louder than my Aeon Flows...bummer for me.
UPDATE - Upon further testing with the help of this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apptrio.hi_fi_status I was able to trigger the AUX AMP mode and it kicked up the volume on my Sony's quite a bit! Unfortunately when I triggered HIM the volume of the sound did not change from the normal mode. Basically what I did was take a 2ft 3.5mm cable extension (male on one side female on the other) and plug it in WITHOUT THE HEADPHONE CABLE ATTACHED. Once the HIFI status app displayed AUX mode I then plugged in my HPs and BOOM, here comes the volume!
Anyways if you have anything to add or have any questions feel free to hit us up. When root is available I'll also make updates to this thread if need be.
Have a good one :highfive:
Is that why the volume is stuck at 75?
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Fabio0716 said:
Is that why the volume is stuck at 75?
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If you have your volume go up to 75 and it doesn't blow out your ears then it is due to the AMP being in normal mode.
I just say one thing:
Neutron player!
Demands some fiddling before you reach your preferred settings, but for me it's the best DAC player out there!
nyttliv7 said:
Neutron player!
Demands some fiddling before you reach your preferred settings, but for me it's the best DAC player out there!
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Have you tried the mobile version of foobar2000? As it's the preferred app for FLAC files and such on the PC, I imagine the mobile version is quite good as well. I wonder how it compares to Neutron Player. I definitely will give both a shot and compare.
On the note of music players, despite making fun of it (it's quite easy to do) and being certain it would fail, I recently converted to Tidal. The quality is really astounding, and the music library is almost as complete as Spotify/etc. Additionally, some albums are available as "masters" that are actually encoded with MQA!
Your right about Tidal. It sounds awesome. The price difference isn't worth it though.
Treesap! I'm comparing those players right now! I'm listening to metal (Tesseract), jazz (Yellowjackets), all flac, and so far I like both foobar2000 and Neutron. The built in player is not satisfying me yet, except for mp3 (I See Stars - Treehouse). Does anyone know if it's necessary to disable the built in effects to make other players work independently? That's what I did with v20. Just remember how different expectations and taste we all have in regards to music/sound
And maybe I should add that I'm just a regular user (with high demand on sound quality), who can't afford too fancy earbuds or extras right now. Any advice regarding good quality sound (budget price) earbuds would be very appreciated
Went back to Poweramp (poweramp-alpha-build-705) and so far it's the best one for me.
For anyone who didn't know, if you payed for the full version, you can upgrade it to high res.
https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic...s-within-old-feature-complete-user-interface/
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Went back to Poweramp (poweramp-alpha-build-705) and so far it's the best one for me.
For anyone who didn't know, if you payed for the full version, you can upgrade it to high res.
https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic...s-within-old-feature-complete-user-interface/
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So after fiddling for a while, Poweramp alpha 705 is tuned (for my ears) to perfection
If it can help anyone, I'll happily share?!
BTW, some interesting reading that made me understand more about hi-res and DAC:
https://www.androidauthority.com/why-you-dont-want-that-32-bit-dac-667621/
Does Poweramp 705 perform better than LG's stock music app?
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Does Poweramp 705 perform better than LG's stock music app?
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Well I'm sure there's some tech guys here who can give us the correct details, but for me the answer is yes! After tuning it up for my ears, the Poweramp does it in a perfect way. If I play mp3 or flac it's giving me perfect sound all over, compared to the lg app were I had to tune it up for individual files.
have any of you engaged the DAC for streaming, for Google music in particular?
there was mention by some last year that one DAC player and an add-on app could do that for Google music. i just don't keep much on my phone and streaming is my way, so I'm still looking at taking advantage where i can. I'm running V4A on a rooted V30 now and looking at the V40's development.
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Went back to Poweramp (poweramp-alpha-build-705) and so far it's the best one for me.
For anyone who didn't know, if you payed for the full version, you can upgrade it to high res.
https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic...s-within-old-feature-complete-user-interface/
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Poweramp improving and improving
(Poweramp-v3-build-805-uni)
I realize there probably isn't much benefit from forcing high impedance but I do want to do some testing with it among other things so I'm curious has anyone figured out any tricks to forcing it with an extension cable or anything of the sorts. I'm still trying to find ways and it looks like similar ways done to the v30 isn't working the same way for our v40's
nyttliv7 said:
So after fiddling for a while, Poweramp alpha 705 is tuned (for my ears) to perfection
If it can help anyone, I'll happily share?!
BTW, some interesting reading that made me understand more about hi-res and DAC:
https://www.androidauthority.com/why-you-dont-want-that-32-bit-dac-667621/
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What settings have you set your Poweramp to? The LG app is sounding better and much louder to me.
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What settings have you set your Poweramp to? The LG app is sounding better and much louder to me.
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Hope the following can help, and also, please correct me anyone, if my way of thinking here is some way wrong or misleading.
A assume you've already taken part of the Poweramp forum?! It's the only way to get the hi-res add-ons. And you obviously have to log in to be able to download.
I'm not 100% sure about how poweramp and the built in eq interacts, but after fiddling for a bit, it seams like what I'm sharing here works best when it comes to volume and sound. Have in mind our individual reference of sound and of course, what kind of earphones/buds you have (this is based on flac files).
You can see I've put replay gain on max in Poweramp settings. You can easily change RG in the eq later to fit individual album.
If anyone else have suggestions, please don't be shy
https://forum.powerampapp.com/files/file/37-poweramp-v3-build-807-uniapk/
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What settings have you set your Poweramp to? The LG app is sounding better and much louder to me.
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Here's the rest:
ps3hacker3 said:
I realize there probably isn't much benefit from forcing high impedance but I do want to do some testing with it among other things so I'm curious has anyone figured out any tricks to forcing it with an extension cable or anything of the sorts. I'm still trying to find ways and it looks like similar ways done to the v30 isn't working the same way for our v40's
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I put details in the first post. Maybe you missed it?
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Speaking of the DAC, does anyone know if the V40 has support for MQA? The V30 has it, and they recently added support for it to the Essential PH-1, but no mention of it for the V40, just "high quality Quad DAC". I suspect that it does, because they probably used the same chip for the V40, but I see no mention of it anywhere, so far.
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Speaking of the DAC, does anyone know if the V40 has support for MQA? The V30 has it, and they recently added support for it to the Essential PH-1, but no mention of it for the V40, just "high quality Quad DAC". I suspect that it does, because they probably used the same chip for the V40, but I see no mention of it anywhere, so far.
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I had the V30+ what's "MQA"?